You know most of it was the same happy mooseshit that she always shovels out to the morons ignorant enough to actually pay to hear her mangle the English language. But then she mentioned something that has all of us who have been following the Palin trainwreck a little puzzled.
From the spec.com:
As she swept into Hamilton last night with her entourage and adoring fans and lonely protesters and press pack, it was abundantly clear that the former Alaska governor and one-time Republican vice-presidential candidate has transcended politics to become the ultimate American powerhouse: a full-fledged celebrity.
And it is that status, more than anything, that drew 900 posh people to Carmen's Banquet Centre to hear Palin speak for more than 45 minutes about her family. From her bootlegger grandfathers in Saskatchewan and Manitoba, to the five children we know so much about.
WTF? I have not only read that literary abortion "Going Rogue" (Fight the memories Gryphen, fight the memories!) but also the only nominally better written "Trailblazer", and NOWHERE in those two books, or anywhere else that I know of for that matter, is their any mention of members of the Heath family selling illegal booze.
My first instinct is just to assume that Palin is tailor making yet another lie to impress the audience that she is speaking in front of. (Remember the two versions of her brother's burned foot?) But then again I am not sure that this is not some long buried family scandal that she carelessly exposed to media scrutiny.
Look I don't have any problem believing that there are lawbreakers in Palin's family, I just don't know why "little miss holier than thou" would brag about that to an audience of high rolling Canadians? Was this a group who made the majority of their money selling moonshine to the natives? (Hey maybe one of the members of her audience was Charles Bronfman? "What can you say about Charles except that he’s the Son of Sam — Sam Bronfman, that is, the prohibition bootlegger who took over the Seagram liquor business and turned its key booze labels into worldwide best sellers.") Maybe she was trying to impress them with some Canadian connection and did not really understand "what is it exactly that the bootlegger does every day?"
However according to this site that researched her ancestry, Sarah's grandparents have been American citizens going back to 1832 where it shows her great-great granfather, a Francis H. Oriel, as having been born in Canada. Is this the man that Sarah identifies as a "bootlegger"? Is he the one whose genes encourage Palin to bend the rules and scoff at the law until forced to comply?
Well as of right now I am not sure where the truth lies. Is Sarah Palin really the decendant of a criminal Canadian bootlegger, or is she just the most blatant chronic liar in American political history?
On this issue your guess is as good as mine, but if you find any new information please let me know, I have to admit I am a little curious.
Update: Andrew Sullivan may have solved the mystery. Well some of it anyhow.
My vote goes to chronic liar.
ReplyDeleteWithout referring to her grandparents as bootleggers and Canadian, she doesn't have a way to bring up Bronfman and Seagrams.
Why bring it up? This was probably some research she did for her wine and cheese gig and couldn't fit it in because of the Canadian angle. So she saved it for a Canadian audience.
Any Canadian audience.
The way the Heaths and Palins breed, she COULD have any number of sets of grandparents.
ReplyDeleteYou gotta remember that, in addition to Bristol, Palin herself and her mom were with child when the former "eloped" to save money (just another lie) and the latter got married in a Catholic Church (a big sin, at least back then).
Palin family values means they get to have all the sex they want but, golly, no one else should because, golly, it's just wrong.
Palin 2012-2014 1/2
You betcha!
Thanks for picking this up, Griffen! I can't believe the bs that comes out of this woman's mouth and why the media doesn't call her on it.
ReplyDeleteAll sociopaths lie Gryphen, this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. The heifer says whatever she thinks will work with her audience.
ReplyDeleteI don't have much time here - did not read any of the links. Sorry.
ReplyDeleteHowever: There might be a very simple(minded) explanation of her use of the word 'BOOTLEGGER', because she does not really have much grasp of the English language: She might not actually know what the word means and actually meant to say something totally different, like maybe 'squatter', or 'pioneer'...
I vote chronic liar, but what do I know.
ReplyDeleteGee.... If that is the truth, why didn't she mention that at the Wine and Spirits Convention in Las Vegas?
ReplyDeleteThat would seem a more fitting venue to out great-great grandpa.
Bonsai-Jay
Maybe great-great-gramps was a maverick rogue bootlegger.
ReplyDeleteBTW, Saskatchewan and Alberta ate thousands of miles from Hamilton. It's a little like bragging about her wild west ancestors while giving a speech in Erie, PA. You can't see Alberta from Hamilton.
She got criticized for not talking about liquor at the Los Vegas gig, so now she has added moonshine to the word salad talking points.
ReplyDeleteCorrection, that line should read:
ReplyDelete"From her God fearin', Jesus lovin', gun totin', law breakin' when they don't agree with one (e.g. patriot), real American (by way of Canada and such, also) bootleggin' grandfathers."
Does Sarah have several personalities who have different, conflicting stories?
ReplyDeleteBootlegging grandpa??? My my, jest never know what ter expect from that Wasilla white trash bunch! Anything for a quick buck except workin.
ReplyDeleteNext thang y'know, she gonna be claiming ta be related to thet other bootleggin family what made it inter thet that whitehouse.
Y'all know who I's talkin 'bout doncha??? The Kenedy bunch. YOU BECHA
Every time I think she can't say anything more stoopid....SHE DOES!
She stated that her imaginary "grandfathers" were from Saskatchewan and Alberta. The only Canadian relative she had was her great-great-grandfather who was from Ontario (NOT Sask or Alb) and who later moved to Illinois.
ReplyDeleteBoth of the provinces she claimed are to the left of the center of Canada. Ontario (where the great-great-grandfather was actually from) is one province more to the right. They're not easy to mix up!
It's odd that she wouldn't use the "Ontario" reference since that is where she was standing while she was speaking. That would add to her goal of ingratiating herself with the audience by telling tales that show that she's just like them.
Here's a map of Canada: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=alberta,+canada&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=37.871902,93.076172&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Alberta,+Canada&ll=53.644638,-94.746094&spn=28.601924,93.076172&t=h&z=4
I know Palin continually mangles the English language, but that was worse than usual!
ReplyDelete"...this was a farming family there..."
"we were some pretty funny stories..." and
"So much exciting stories that you would hear about..."
Seriously. Her speech writer is getting paid? Ha! That person needs to be fired!
~GermanGoodness
Poo on details and facts like actual ancestry records. It’s just being picky to expect Sarah to distinguish between a grandfather and a great-great-grandfather or to care how many of them were born in Canada or that the one who was a Canadian died in 1916 before prohibition (1920-1933) started. The important thing is she’s building her mythic image and CONNECTING. And she got to show off that she can pronounce Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
ReplyDeleteHeck, who even knows what she said? Reading the speech transcript, she didn’t specify that it was her grandfathers who were the bootleggers and she even qualified the word ‘bootlegger’ with an ‘I guess’.
“Relatives from Canada, too. We have the foundation of the Palin family, one grandfather was born in Manitoba, this was a farming family there. And then another one born in Saskatchewan and we were some pretty funny stories of our relations who were bootleggers I guess.”
Full speech transcript:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/an-intimate-evening-with-sarah-palin/article1537275/
O/T Which Trig is having a birthday tomorrow? Can you believe not even the ADN could progress this and find answers to all the lurking questions? Where will the birthday for Trig be celebrated? Will he and his siblings fly to join Sarah and Todd for the big milestone? Will they all go to Anchorage where they say he now lives? Will they meet in Canada? I am anxious to see them all come together for that precious boy. A family united to rejoice their blessing. Family values in action.
ReplyDeleteWhat happened?
The first group of Highland colonists arrived at Red River in the Canadian Northwest on August 29, 1812, to establish a settlement. The colony was the vision of Thomas Douglas, Fifth Earl of Selkirk, who was concerned about the conditions in which many of the poor in Britain were forced to live and who saw emigration schemes as a way to provide a better life.
ReplyDeleteThe Province of Alberta was born on September 1, 1905, when the Alberta Act came into effect. George Hedley Vicars Bulyea was appointed the first Lieutenant-Governor of the new province.
http://www.glenbow.org/exhibitions/online/libhtm/aug29.htm
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My family BOTH sides are pioneers from the Territory now known as Alberta.
Some of them continue to farm century old homesteads!!
There WAS no prohibition in 1812, as you can see Alberta was not a province until 1905, able to pass prohibition laws.
Fort Calgary was not established until 1875, which introduced the North West Mounted Police as they expanded their area.
In 1812 Saskatchewan and Alberta were had not yet evolved into the territories they were before they became provinces, they were an area called..."Rupet's Land". That included what is now parts of Manitoba, Ontario and Quebec.
Later it became "The North West Territories"
There were only 3 of what we now call provinces, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.
There was still Upper and Lower Canada for Pete's sakes!
Wonderful boundry maps from 1670 - 2001 here:
http://www.historicalatlas.ca/website/hacolp/national_perspectives/boundaries/UNIT_17/UNIT_17_Terr_Evol_6799/UNIT_17_frame_TE6799.htm
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My vote is for pathological liar.
ReplyDeleteWhy isn't Todd seeking help for her? We assume he loves her. Is money more important than her mental health?
He needs to convince her to take some time off. She is hurting her own brand. The more people see her, hear her, and think about her, the less popular she is amongst the majority of people
There will always be folks willing to plunk down money to see the freak show. But these days, most of us have found within ourselves the compassion to help the "freaks," not keep putting them on display.
Sarah needs counseling - not about how to be a celebrity or make more money - she needs psychological counseling and therapy. If Todd really loves her and is not too far gone himself, he will make sure she gets the help she needs.
Amassing a fortune is not worth it if you lose your mental, emotional and physical health along the way. Look at all the talented celebrities who have been broken on that same path.
Sarah, honestly, take a break. Get some rest. Spend time with you children. Talk to someone who can help you. Relax. You are getting too tightly-wound and are going to break.
Part 3:
ReplyDeleteThere are enough web sites at a 10 second Google click to concur that
the ONLY prohibition in 1812 was .a temporary war measure.
The Temperance was not put in place until ...1875 ......and was voluntary.
So unless Palin's ancestors were involved in the war of 1812 by distilling or providing alcohol to the "privateers" .... or they would have to be "privateers" themselves....in essence....pirates....as usual if her lips are moving, Palin is lying.
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Privateers, or Pirates:
A bit of history first.
It can be said that the first criminal organizations in what is now Canada were pirates who operated off the Atlantic coast, using Newfoundland as a base during the 17th and 18th centuries.
Pirates first targeted fishing vessels operating off the Grand Banks and in subsequent years sailed to the British colony to repair, pick up supplies and conscript seamen.
Soon Newfoundland’s main draw for pirates was as a staging area for excursions into the more profitable waters of the Caribbean and South America.
During the late 18th and early 19th centuries, Nova Scotia produced some of the most successful war-time privateers in the world.
Privateers were essentially pirates who were issued licences by the government of their country to rob merchant ships from enemy countries in times of conflict.
During the War of 1812, it was the privateers who were the principal line of defence that prevented the Maritimes from becoming the property of America.
http://reviewcanada.ca/essays/2010/01/01/our-healthiest-industry/
Part 2
ReplyDeleteProhibition in Canada
[This text was published in 1948; for the full citation, see the end of the document]
Prohibition. The first Canadian prohibition of the sale of intoxicating liquors took place during the War of 1812, when an Act was passed, as a .....temporary war measure,..... to prohibit the exportation of grain and to restrain the distillation of spirituous liquors from grain.
A local-option measure known as the Canada Temperance Act was passed in 1878, prohibiting the sale of intoxicating liquors in places that should adopt it.
In subsequent years a number of counties and municipalities throughout Canada put the law into force, but the greatest advance in prohibition was made after the outbreak of the World War.
In 1915 Saskatchewan closed every bar in the province and greatly reduced the number of dispensaries.
A referendum of the people was taken at the latter end of 1916, and as a result the remaining liquor dispensaries were voted out of existence by a majority of seven to one. On June 1, 1916, prohibition became effective in Manitoba ; and in July of the same year Alberta voted for prohibition.
In September a referendum was taken in British Columbia and prohibition won; in 1920 the question was recommitted to the people, and defeated.
After this, liquor was sold under government supervision, in sealed packages.
A legislative enactment declared for prohibition in Ontario in the year 1916.
Thus by 1921 every province except Quebec and British Columbia had declared for prohibition.
Later, all except Prince Edward Island returned to government control. Under Parts I and II of the Canada Temperance Act, provision is made for the prohibition of the sale of intoxicating liquors in counties and cities.
A vote taken under these parts in the county of Compton, Quebec, in 1930, in response to a petition for the repeal of the Act in that county, resulted in favour of the repeal, which immediately became effective.
Part III of the Act relates to penalties and persecutions, Part IV to the prohibition of the importation and exportation of intoxicating liquors into and from the provinces, while Part V. enacts provisions in aid of provincial legislation for the control of the liquor traffic.
It is frequently known as the "Scott Act", from the fact that it was sponsored by Sir Richard Scott.
http://faculty.marianopolis.edu/c.belanger/quebechistory/encyclopedia/ProhibitioninCanada.htm
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She is right, nobody cares how much she lies, they just keep paying her so they can see her beauty and glory. gag me. What the hell is wrong with people. It use to matter whether you were a liar or not, guess, not so much any more.
ReplyDeleteOkay Gryphen.. that was just ONE of the LIES.
ReplyDeleteWhat about her ' story ' saying she WAS a City Manager as part in her resume as she was trying to woo woo them..?
Those of you in Alaska know she HIRED one because she couldn't do the job of running the little town of Wasilla.
I'm looking for links to show proof that she outright lied. Pretty bold to brag about something that points back to show your incompetence. I want the details about the City Mgr to forward on to the CSU Stanislaus and the people who have the FaceBook page trying to prevent her from coming to CA.If she shows up here... will she just make stuff up and lie to the kids like she did in Canada. Further proof that they need to cancel this LIARS appearance.
What was the City Mgr's name, when was he hired and how much was he paid etc..
Come to think of it... if Tawd was sooooo smart and qualified to be her Co-Deputy Governor... why couldn't he have stepped up and done the job of Her City Manager..? Isn't running Wasilla easier than being Co-Governor of the State? yu betcha.
It's possible I missed something, but it seems her speech included plenty of ‘happy moonshit’ (love Gryph’s way with words) for Todd, Track, Bristol, Piper, Trig, Tripp.....everyone except Willow.
ReplyDeleteShe went on and on about Bristol, 'her perfect teenage daughter, and how the Tripp pregnancy taught her "to be less judgmental". Well, okee-dokee! Why does it seem she's holding judgment and anger against Willow when she should be accepting responsibility for poor parenting? I'm really feeling for Willow.
And did she drop a new version of the 5th pregnancy tailored for the Canadians?
'Gosh, we just live for children and for helping children. Well, about 12 weeks along in the pregnancy, Todd was in Canada, a vo-tech school in Edmonton. I went to the doctor and he said well we’ve got some test results for you and you need to sit down and just be prepared.'
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/an-intimate-evening-with-sarah-palin/article1537275/
Shes so fulla shit.
ReplyDeleteThe Cdn side of the line division is the line of Niagara CTY, Can and US county.
No where near Sask or Mani.
Also why diff Birth locales for dad...Was he born in HopeID, or LA?
"("Chuck"), b. Los Angeles Co., Cal, 24 March 1938"
or
"Heath-FATHER
Born : 1939 in Hope, Idaho"
In any event...where "Oriel" claims is about 2m over the river.
People walk there.
RW
GreetingsFromTheJerseyShore
ReplyDeleteAs deciphered by Andrew Sullivan she was talking about the Paylin great-grandpa bootleggers...or does she figure that if you are actually a Heath you can say your ancestors were Paylin bootleggers and vice versa because that's the way it was back in the day with all that inbreeding - going back and forth between Alaska and Canada. Can't she get anything straight? Time for a med check.
Did any of you catch this article about her asking for a "prayer shield"?
ReplyDeletePalin talks to women in Kentucky
http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=12328675
She must have had her hanky out with this gig!
well, baby Trig has at least two mothers, so who knows how many grandfathers Sarah or Todd have.
ReplyDeletehonestly, she just like any other grifter, attempting to glom herself onto the sheeple in front of her who might have some cash to throw at her
the bloogosphere is covering this latest Palin lie full-force.
ReplyDeleteOne wonders when the MSM might follow suit and start calling her out on her BS
How did Joe Kennedy make his millions?
ReplyDeleteShe didn't mention Willow? That is a BIG RED FLAG! Why can't she talk of Willow's struggles? There must be a PSA in that story. Willow will be allowed to be with the family for Trig's big day?
ReplyDeleteblatant chronic liar for a 1000 please, Alex
ReplyDeleteSomehow that bullshit reflected on 'us Palins' also2. no. If it were real it reflected on 'you Heaths' ..... or mama's family. Idiot.
I'll take "most blatant chronic liar in American political history" for $1000. Does this really surprise anyone?
ReplyDeleteAnon 12:34
ReplyDeleteIt's not about the bootlegging. Hell-my grandma sold illegal booze in a dry southern Alabama county.
It's about Sarah LYING about her family bootlegging in Canada. Get it? It was NOT her family. It may have been Todd's. She was trying to connect with the Canadians--so she lied. She tries to connect to teabaggers about using a poor man's teleprompter because she is rich and it is a lie. She tries to connect to Right to Lifers so she uses Trig as if everyone else would have aborted him. Lie. She is wracked with blind jealousy and trying to connect her jealous heart to the idiocy of the GOP about Obama--so she lies about everything he says.
She's a liar, pure and simple.
I believe Track's great-grandfathers were Canadian bootleggers.
ReplyDeleteGryphen, she said Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Not Alberta. Please fix it, it's wrong.
ReplyDeleteTodd Palin's grandparents. Gotta think before you type, folks.
ReplyDelete@ Anon 2:01 pm:
ReplyDelete"I believe Track's great-grandfather were Canadian bootleggers."
If the stories about Todd not being Track's father are true, then this could also, too be true...
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteGryphen, she said Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Not Alberta. Please fix it, it's wrong.
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It doesn't matter.
There WAS no "Alberta" "Manitoba" OR "Saskatchewan" in 1862, the year Palin's family claims to become American.
It was ALL "Rupert's Land"
Here is a boundary map:
http://www.historicalatlas.ca/website/hacolp/national_perspectives/boundaries/UNIT_17/UNIT_17_Terr_Evol_6799/UNIT_17_frame_TE6799.htm
The ONLY prohibition prior to 1862 when the claim to American citizen ship began for the Palin's, was in 1812 during the war.
It was temporary.
They would have had to have been pirates, because there was no such thing as bootleggers then!
Palin is FULL of it.
It takes 10 "Google" minutes to find her claims historically impossible.
Wow! You guys are amazing!
ReplyDeleteThanks for all of the clarifications and information.
Martha you rock! I think you put the final nail in Palin's BS Canadian coffin. Nicely done!
CANADIAN grandparents? OK, I want to see long-form birth certificates for 2 gens on both her mother's and father's sides of the family. Can't be too careful about the constitution.
ReplyDeletehttp://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2010/04/17/13628256.html
ReplyDeleteA check with some southwest Manitobans monitoring genealogical records shows that it’s Todd Palin, Sarah’s husband, who has the roots in this province. Brad Coe, a history buff in Hartney, said Todd’s grandfather Frederick William Palin was born in the town in February 1905 before eventually living with his parents and seven siblings in the Rural Municipality of Grey, in the area of Elm Creek and St. Claude.
Frederick Palin later moved to Washington state, where his son James — Todd’s father — was born. Todd Palin was born in 1964 in Dillingham, Alaska.
Naw, remember during the VP campaign, she and Princess Diana were cousins.
ReplyDeleteCanadian bootleggers and Buckingham Palace - God Bless immigration and English carpetbaggers! But only as long as they speak The Queen's English, eh?
And hanging out with those Italian immigrants "all named Tony" in Ontario? Oh dear.
Come on, expensive marketing/PR consultants, you can do better than this, can'tcha? You all aren't very good at what you do, are you? When one looks for a connection with one's audience, it should at least be truthful. One really shouldn't invent a literal connection. In Mrs. Palin's line of work, a philosophical connection would be most effective. Key to political stuff, I think.
So in the past few weeks, she has stated directly that she's "spent a lotta time" in Boston and Canada, with "kids' hockey".
When, exactly, Sarah?
Was that when you were the mayor of Wasilla (96-2002)? Track would have been 8 to 13, you would have had 2 younger children as well,and an absent husband with an Iron Dog commitment. Or was it later, 2002-2006, when you were running for Lt. Gov, worked the Oil & Gas Commission, and campaigned for governor, had another kid and drove around the state in your Jetta with children sleeping in the backseat?
Track would have been a Bantam and then in high school. But in 2005, you were kinda busy and he was in trouble at school. And in 2006, he was living in Michigan and got sent home. But remember, in 2007 he was "offered" a spot playing semi-pro hockey for the Alaska Avalanche, but instead he joined the army?
So when did you spend a lotta time in Boston and Canada?
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/04/17/13628406.html
ReplyDelete"It seems as unlikely as an Alaska woman becoming the U.S. vice-president. Sarah Palin with family roots in rural southern Manitoba? You betcha!
Word is getting around Hartney, a small town about 80 km southwest of Brandon, that Palin — a major figure in the U.S. political scene who boasts plenty of star power — has family connections, through marriage, to the Manitoba community.
And Hartney’s mayor plans to invite the 46-year-old former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican nominee for U.S. vice-president to the town for a sort of homecoming.
Palin added, as well, that her family has “some pretty funny stories of our relatives who were bootleggers” in Manitoba and Saskatchewan many decades ago."
O Canada! Really?
I'm so disappointed...I thought you guys were supposed to be smarter than the Lower 48.
aaaarrrrgggghhhh
But...but...both grandparents were born in Canada and only one - on Todd's side - has been discovered. Who's the other one?
ReplyDeleteA Palin visit to Hartney could be fun...birth certificate or passport for Trig and all. Surely, he wouldn't miss the Canadian homecoming.
I can't wait for her star power to turn to infamy.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TRIGS!!!
ReplyDeleteSarah, where is YOUR birth certificate?
ReplyDeleteAnd by the way Happy Birthday to Trig. Where is his birth certificate?
HEy, Sarah, from the amount of damage done to you skin, looks like you need to lay off the tanning bed.
ReplyDeleteCheck out this review of Quittypants' speech in Hamilton Ontario:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.frumforum.com/sarah-palin%E2%80%99s-regional-tour-2
Anonymous 7:54 AM said...
ReplyDeleteSarah, where is YOUR birth certificate?
And by the way Happy Birthday to Trig. Where is his birth certificate?
7:54 AM
QUESTION to Anonymous 7:54 AM:
WHICH TRIG ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? You do know there is more than one Trig!