Knoxville:
A longtime friend and one-time employee of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told jurors today of vulgar and threatening e-mails she and others received after news hit that Palin's personal e-mail account had been illegally accessed.
"I received (e-mails) many a day, violent, sexual, threatening ... throughout the course of the (2008 presidential) campaign," Ivey Frye testified in U.S. District Court.
She read from one that said: "You don't know me. Neither do I know you, but we can change that."
She said the e-mails, which were sent to everyone on Palin's e-mail contact list, were anonymously sent.
Later this afternoon, jurors will hear from Palin's oldest daughter, Bristol Palin. Authorities say Bristol Palin also received vulgar and threatening messages after the account was accessed.
It is very unfortunate that Palin's daughter and friend received hateful threatening e-mails, just like it is when people who criticize Plain receive them, but I still don't believe it constitutes anything more than a misdemeanor on David Kernell's behalf.
He may have realized that people would use access to the accounts to send annoying e-mails to the people on the e-mail list, but unless he encouraged people to make those threats, he can hardly be held accountable for what those individuals did with the information he provided.
Like I said, I have no problem with Kernell facing some appropriate punishment for his actions, but facing jail time is completely unnecessary and overly punitive in my opinion.
This was NOT a government secured e-mail account he accessed, it was a freaking Yahoo account that Palin should NEVER have been using in the first place. And by the way, for all future politicians who are thinking of using Yahoo, or Hotmail, or G-mail to conduct state business. THIS is why you don't do that! And you can thank David Kernell for providing that lesson to all of you.
Imagine what might have happened if some foreign entity, or spy, had accessed this account and not simply published it on line as a prank but rather sat back reading private e-mails and information about state business for years without being discovered? How badly could THAT have turned out for Sarah Palin?
Palin owes this kid a debt of gratitude not a possible jail sentence.
And by the way if Sarah Palin were any kind of real Christian she would plea for leniency on this kid's behalf simply because it is the right thing to do. If she does not it just proves that she is still the same nasty vindictive little girl she was back in Wasilla High School.
How about the threatening letters that were sent to the judge hearing the custody case for Levi an Bristol? If Kernell is responsible, albeit indirectly, for violent emails being sent to people on Palin's email list, then isn't Palin responsible for the ugly emails sent on her behalf? And addresses purposely published by her supporters?
ReplyDeleteI certainly hope the defense puts the blame where it belongs - on the AK Governor using a Yahoo account with an easily guessed password for government email,rather than her government provided email account.
ReplyDeleteBut wait a minute- don't they have to prove that they all received such emails? Because of their positions they should have saved the evidence. Can they produce the emails? And why are they only now telling of these vulgar and threatening emails? Did I miss something???
ReplyDeleteWhat David Kernell did was no more inflammatory or inciteful as Sarah's favorite Alaskan shock-jock Eddie Burke when he read aloud the names and phone numbers of Palin protest organizers - he even encouraged his listeners to harass these "baby killing maggots."
ReplyDeleteWhat he did was far more innocuous than what Mike Nizich, Palin's chief of staff (by default) shared with the press: "I hope that the publicity-seekers will face a backlash from Alaskans who have a sense of fair play and proportion."
Sarah does not incur a reasonable expectation of privacy when she goes outside secure and official means of communication to conduct state business.
The kid no doubt deserves a slap on the wrist, but when you are dealing with a world that allows Sarah to pass herself off as a victim for being called out on her atrocious record of lies, embellishments and obfuscation, patterned record of abuses and ethics violations, Sarah's brand of justice is to castrate the young man.
In other words, she wins, he lose[s.]
And by the way, for all future politicians who are thinking of using Yahoo, or Hotmail, or G-mail to conduct state business. THIS is why you don't do that! And you can thank David Kernell for providing that lesson to all of you.
ReplyDeletePlease, no future politicians that dumb.
updated April 21, 2010 at 2:41 p.m.
Frank Bailey testified he feared the account for Palin, chosen in the summer of 2008 to be Sen. John McCain's GOP running mate, could and would be hacked.
Bailey testified he set up the account at Palin's request.
"She wanted to keep her personal and partisan business separate from her state business," he said.
Are they all full of moosecrap? Frank Bailey tried to warn her, he no doubt knew how futile that would be.
If the prosecutor's argument is that David Kernell should be made responsible for what others did with the information he provided -- then using that same logic Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, Sarah Palin, Mike Vanderboegh, Andrew Breitbart, Robert Stacy McCain and others should be held responsible for what people do who hear their inflammatory words.
ReplyDeleteLet's start with the people in Alaska who have been intimidating other Alaskans because the intimidators believe everything the Palin clan says and does, and the folks being intimidated are speaking up against this thuggery.
BTW, has anyone ever found a tie-in between Alaska Palin believers and followers, and the Alaska AIP?
I personally know people who have "guessed" former boyfriends/girlfriends passwords, and snooped. I know parents who have guessed their teenager's passwords to e-mails, and snooped. I know wives/husbands who have guessed passwords and snooped. Hell, my husbands e-mail was breached by some unknown person and his password changed. Any of these scenerios can be seen as stupid or malicious. Criminal...no, I really don't think so. This is going to trial because it was Sarah Palin's yahoo account.
ReplyDeleteI'm scared for that kid. By the time
ReplyDeletethese 3 harpies get done moaning on the stand the jury'll be in tears & want to lynch him. Yes, he was wrong,
but technically he 'guessed,' he didn't 'hack.' He deserves a sharp,
dead serious rebuke from the judge & community service. Not prison. I'm not in any way condoning his actions,
but he was only 20 & he seems to have
learned his lesson.
Another thing, what do you want to bet that the queen, the princess & the lackey have themselves a heck of a good time in Knoxville on somebody
else's dime before flying back. (Poor
Sarah, she's suffers so!)
And, if they were receiving evil
emails by the dozens, it's doubtful that none of them could be traced back to the sender - not in this day & age. Can they prove they received them?
Sharon TN
I wonder if they have copies of the "threatening emails" that were supposedly sent to Palin's email list. I don't doubt that people might have sent them, I just doubt anything that SP & her "crew" say without documented proof. Being under oath means nothing to them.
ReplyDeleteThanks for all you do Gryphen!
How many nasty e-mails have you, or AKM, or Shannyn received from those Pbots?
ReplyDeleteThe actual email address was pretty obvious and any number of ppl who received an email from Queen of Quit - if BCC wasn't used - it's easy to find who & where the email went out to. Right click on the name & "ta-da"
Easy email addy & just as easy password -- shame on her!
he can hardly be held accountable for what those individuals did with the information he provided.
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My first thought upon reading this is the right wing chant "guns don't kill people, people kill people." That said...
He's just the hacker. We can't blame him for what other folks do with hacked email accounts, can we? Wink.
FREE DAVID KERNELL!
ReplyDeleteOr at least, may the judge treat him as "harshly" as the Palin kids "suffered" for their much more serious offenses...
$P had no business conducting state business on an unsecured Yahoo account. To lower the boom on a college kid who guessed her password so easily would demonstrate the kind of hypocrisy that's made $P famous.
I feel sorry for Kernell's parents. It is sad--he was just a normal college kid one day, and then his life this. He did wrong but Queen Teabag should never have had that account.
ReplyDelete"I received (e-mails) many a day, violent, sexual, threatening ... throughout the course of the (2008 presidential) campaign."
ReplyDelete"She said the e-mails, which were sent to everyone on Palin's e-mail contact list..."
I DO NOT believe it. If I were the judge, I would require indisputable proof, like hard copies of ALL of them, not just one or two, or access to email accounts to look for myself at date stamps. I believe that they are going to perjure themselves.
1. Sarah Palin has complained bitterly and publicly about everything under the sun. Especially her kids. But has NEVER mentioned this. Remember the alleged attacks on her daughters in Juneau? But nothing about "many a day", "vulgar", violent, sexual and threatening" emails? Not the tiniest mention or complaint, Mother Bear?
Not on Oprah, not in her book, not in any interview, not in People Magazine, not during the David Letterman fiasco, not while she was governor, not after. Never.
2. If emails were sent to "everyone" on Sarah's email list, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE, would have mentioned them. EVERYONE on Sarah Palin's email list kept very quiet about daily threatening emails?! Why! What reason would anyone have _not_ to mention it? If this happened to me, my staff, my kids and everyone on my email list, it would absolutely be a topic of conversation.
3. "Throughout the campaign". According to media accounts at the time, this business happened somewhere around Sept. 16th. So if Ivey is telling the truth, then email addresses were already known before the yahoo account was breached.
4. And certainly, why not? Of course people had Sarah Palin and Ivey Frye's email addresses. Ivey Frye is a state employee. This is a woman with four children and two blackberrys.
Maybe hateful emails have been routine?
So, let's see. First day of trial, first witnesses. Ivey and Bristol get threatening emails. Which goes to what point to prove that a misdemeanor was committed?
Waitaminnit...sniff sniff...what's that tangy smell...mmmm...MONEY!
Damages! Ka-ching! Another money-making door of opportunity opened for Sarah Palin! The stage is being set for damages.
Sarah Palin doesn't care what happens with this trial - she's gonna make some money off of it!
"This was NOT a government secured e-mail account he accessed, it was a freaking Yahoo account that Palin should NEVER have been using in the first place. And by the way, for all future politicians who are thinking of using Yahoo, or Hotmail, or G-mail to conduct state business. THIS is why you don't do that! And you can thank David Kernell for providing that lesson to all of you."
ReplyDeleteGryph, while I agree with you completely, the whole point is that as far as I know, no other state governor has been either so stupid or so ill-advised as to think using one of the services you mentioned was a good idea for their personal communications, which they deserve to have. They've all, as far as I know, used other (more expensive?) services for their personal communications.
i.e., Sarah Palin is not the brightest bulb in the candelabra, or she was too cheap to protect herself properly, or, most likely I suspect, both.
That's the only reason D. Kernell wanted to try to get in, 'cause he could not believe a state governor would do something that ... lame. Wanted to see the truth for himself.
Now, sharing it on the internet afterwards gets into more sticky considerations, but overall I agree, his infraction is not worthy of much, if any, jail time.
Ounce for ounce, I wonder who did more real harm, empirically.
ReplyDelete- Willow Palin breaking into someone's home and trashing it.
- David Kernell breaking into someone's email account.
It's called spam and there isn't a single person who has a web based email address that doesn't get spam. The defense should be asking how much spam they got before he guessed the password. There is no way to prove he is responsible for those emails getting to them since everyone gets sexual and or other harassing emails all day long from idiots who have nothing better to do than spam people.
ReplyDeleteI do hope the defense rips them apart and proves their all lying.
you know they're all lying through their teeth.
ReplyDeletegive the kid a job and put $arah in jail...
ReplyDeleteWhat about all the thousands of emails available on bloggers pages that, was it ABC, or AP procured, that are available publically. So many of them are to yahoo accounts.
ReplyDeleteAnd also, did they not change the or stop the account as soon as it was determined to be breached? Stupid if they did not.
Oh, my impression of Sarah Palin from using a Yahoo account for her personal e-mail (still monikered 'gov') and H & R Block for her taxes made me think ...
ReplyDelete.. wow, she's a really unsophisticated person and doesn't know much about the internet, and it's frankly weird that she wouldn't, as governor of a state, consult and pay an actual tax attorney rather than take stuff to H & R Block (no offense to H & R Block).
Apparently she doesn't understand internet protocols with business, doesn't have a tax attorney when she makes far more money than me and has a vastly more complicated tax situation than I do, and is in a high position and can afford and should engage one ... nope, good old H & R Block it is! (Until 2009 when they get thrown under the bus ... )
Consequently, I have zero confidence that this woman could manage America.
Who got the bucks to do the Palin Tax Return this year, I wonder mightily?
I wonder what kind of emails Palin Todd, Frye, etc got at their gov't email addresses after the VP announcement?Until we compare & contrast we can't say that they were damaged because of privacy breach.
ReplyDeleteI hope we all get to read all these hateful emails. Also it is not really possible to send an anonymous email as far as I know. The sender would have to have used an email address which can be tracked. Second, why couldn't all these emails have been sent by Palin supporters to help her win a court case. Third, Obama supporters are not that likely to send hate mail. Did they use mispelled words like moran?
ReplyDeleteHe didn't hack the account he guessed the password. big difference
ReplyDeleteThis is happening in a Federal Court room. That is tragic.
ReplyDeleteHow this trial turns out will effect future cases. You would think all parents would care a lot. Moon, it could be different in the future for the people who have "guessed" and snooped. Including parents. They will care when a hateful kid wants to get even.
So far, I do not get how Frank Bailey helps the Federal prosecutors.
It is the judges court room, but in others they would have to prove with the emails what exactly went on. It is all information that is somewhere. FBI forensics could deal with that. They are accusing Kernell of obstruction? The FBI could probably prove where most of the emails came from. This whole thing is bogus.
Federal prosecutors should want the emails to prove their case. Why do they go to such extremes to obstruct? What am I missing? This makes no sense.
Isn't it merely hearsay if they just tell about the emails? We pay these prosecutors to do a half a job? What if they had a real criminal case?
ReplyDeleteWow, the Adn.com is on the ball. I just read about poor Bristol and her cell phone debacle. http://www.adn.com/2010/04/21/1243401/yahoo-manager-testifies-in-trial.html
ReplyDeleteSince the prosecution is laying out their case I am wondering about documentation. Or can the court accept hearsay?
When you read the ADN article you wonder why a governor of a state does not have a land line in her home......did she not have internet either? Is it nearly impossible to purchase cell phones in Alaska?
The more the Palins testify, the more intriguing it's getting.
I wish the comments on this posting could find their way to the Defense Attorney, Even though he has his strategy worked out, it could help him in summation - might even make a couple of points in questions.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone knows the attorney handling this and could contact his office, they might want to see the points made her (and perhaps other Alaskan blogs). There are some pretty sharp cookies making comments to Gryphen's great post.
? ? ? "She wanted to keep her personal and partisan business separate from her state business" ? ? ?
ReplyDeleteBailey on Sarah Palin. Did her actions support that statement?
WTF Bristol? So your credit card is stolen, or your e-mail and cell numbers are broadcast. What do you do?
This is reminding me of all the claims about "abuse or attacks" that no one can back up with evidence.
"Bristol Palin said her phone was essentially under siege for a week before she turned it over to the U.S. Secret Service."
Why would she remain under siege for a week? Don't most people take immediate action?
If any of those dirty and/or threatening emails still exist there are programs that can trace them back to the server from whence they were sent and even to the computer they were written on.
ReplyDeleteSend the person a little "keylogger" and you can see everything on their computer and every keystroke, password addy, favorite you have saved. Everything, all of it. It is fascinating to watch the little bastard program take pictures of everything on your desktop then go down every email and program gathering everything about you and what you have written. I have been infected several times with them and they were a bitch to get rid of. Have done at least a dozen complete reinstalls to get the keylogger off. I Finally bought an old school computer to use strictly for getting on and of the net, checking mail and doing searches. I only use my bigger computers on the net for program updates.
The sad thing is, while some of the keyloggers are from hackers looking for credit card and banking information for identity theft, there is an internet company that sell them right out in the open as "Parental Controls" and to snoop on one's employees from any place in the world. Most of the keyloggers I have gotten have been from well known software venders websites, not from a hacker site which I visit when I need advice on a computer problem. No one in their right mind would deliberately infect a hacker site, because they all know the real hackers would track them to hell and back and send a permanent FIX to their machines. So the filthy mouthed email writers had better start sweating, they can be traced right back to their nasty little anus.
Poetic justice would be nicely served if the nasty emails turned out to be from Palin's own kids!
I am surprised that some computer company hasn't snapped the kid up, or one of the GOVT agencies since he is sharp enough to guess the password of Sarah the two brain cell wonder of AK.
Bristol testified that she was without a phone for about 2 weeks because her phone had to be turned
ReplyDeleteover to the police due to the number being made public. She said her mother was away campaigning & they have no land line in the house. What?!
So...ah...she was marooned on a desert island, no aunts, cousins to call,(no heat?, no food?) to bring her a cheap trac phone? Are these people for real? And in that whole stinkin' red box-castle-house they
haven't got one land line phone?
Everything is a drama with them.
Does the Ivy person have a life or
is she just a 'Palin Theatrical Troupe' groupie?
Sharon TN
Two laws in the land....the Palin one and the commonfolks one.....
ReplyDeleteWhy arent the emails being produced for hard evidence?
ReplyDeleteWhen will the transcripts be available? There must be some guaranteed star struck jurors in Tenn.
ReplyDeleteOne almost wonders if SP chose that type of account knowing it could be easily hacked into and use that as another "victim" excuse. It would provide her with her "fix" for attention and would keep her name on the front pages. Even back in 2006, she probably had her sights on being "chosen" for some future leadership position and what better way to keep oneself in the news than to secretly sabotage her own account? My crazy theory reminds me of the movie, "The Informant".
ReplyDeleteThis made me laugh so hard!
ReplyDelete""We live in the middle of nowhere in Alaska ... in the middle of the woods," Palin said."
They live in the middle of WASILLA!!! Hardly the middle of no where.
What an effin' joke!
So Bristol says she got a call from a bunch of boys who said they were at her door. A bunch of boys on one phone? Yeah Bristol. We heard that one before, wasn't it unreported in Juneau?
ReplyDeleteI agree with the other comments about the inability to prove that the defendant sent vulgar and threatening emails once he had access to Saint Sarah's email account. What also sounds so phony about her accusation is that the vulgar emails were sent anonymously. I would suspect that a prankster would send such emails from Saint Sarah's account and not anonymously, for the ultimate affect!
ReplyDeleteIf I was a juror, I would want to see that accusation backed up by facts, like a complete list of her email address book in Yahoo, ALL the 'victims' who received such emails and a tangible link back to the defendant .. ex:ip address, email account, smoking gun etc... Hopefully the jury can see through this sensationalism and victimization approach and just deal with the facts.
Hi all ~
ReplyDeleteI have nominated Creepies4Palin for worst blog of all time. Here is the write up for the nomination, and if you agree and haven't cast your vote by all means go for it - This link takes you right to it, http://bloggerschoiceawards.com/blogs/show/92547
"Misrepresentative agit-prop website that makes a cynical business out of spewing Palin's twisted view of the American political landscape out into the blogoverse, under the guise of "valid journalism and news". Routinely fleeces Palin's followers for donations to her corrupt SarahPAC and Alaska Fund Trust grifting organizations in order to help the multi-millionairess pay her legal bills and overpaid lawyers. The writing is of such a formulaic and yet twisted style characteristic of amateurish propaganda that it can have the single redeeming quality of being easily mocked by those who are not horribly shocked. The commenting community also provides continuous unintended hilarity in their serious worship of Palin as an idol and a shrine. Certainly this website encapsulates all of the worst of one of the most bizarre chapters ever to occur in American political life.
Also known as: Creeps4Palin, the CofP, the SeaOfPee, the OceanOfUrine, Crazies4Palin, The Pee Zoo, etc. Its denizens are known as Pee'ers, and Urine Swimmers.
How much is Ivey Frye getting paid by Sarah Palin and for what?
ReplyDeleteWhy was it that John McCain was ultra protective of the Johnstons? One of his staff moved in on them at one point. Would he have allowed their land line to go out at that time?
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of parent would leave a pregnant 17 year old alone, (baby sitting siblings?) without a back up plan?
Why didn't Todd or Sarah get help from the McCain team to at least do what they did for the Johnstons?
Where was Levi? Put him under oath. Did he leave the pregnant 17 year old Bristol Palin alone, too? What a jerk.
You know, I bet this is when Levi's mother Sherry Johnston got her a cell phone!
ReplyDeleteYep, all alone in the Alaska wilderness. Except for Levi. And Chuck and Sally Heath. And Jim and Faye Palin. Right down the road. And Heather Bruce. And J.D. and Wendy. And Diana and Scott. And Kristi. And Molly. And...
Bristol Palin testified in the second day of the felony trial that she had to turn her phone over to investigators and went without phone service for weeks because her grandparents' Wasilla home had no land line and couldn't sign a new cell phone contract as a 17-year-old.
Chuck Heath has no landline. Todd Palin has no landline? Lots and lots of campaign staff, Secret Service, etc etc, but poor little Bristol had no babysitter?
Yeesh.
Wasilla or anyplace in Alaska is now the middle of nowhere? Wasn't that assumption exactly what ruffled Palin's feathers, bringing out her Alaskan Momma Bear instincts to defend us from elite journalists when that perky Couric asked Sarah what she read all the way up in Alaska to keep up on current events?
ReplyDeleteThat lady lies and spins like she breaths, with awkward, audible gasps and floundering iambics.
How can they not have a land line? The Best Western and Ricky Reese at Shooters Billiards are minutes away. No land lines in the middle of those woods? Only a Palin can perjure like that and have a pass.
ReplyDeleteIf Bristol Palin was telling the gospel truth in her testimony today, Wednesday, April 21, 2010, Levi is a creep and does not deserve half custody. If he was on the North Slope when the parents abandoned their children, he should have moved mountains to look after his own child, Tripp. He would have been there with Bristol in a heart beat and McCain would have secured anything they needed.
The parents and Levi knew about Bristol's party and drug life, now she is a pregnant 17 year old and they all bail on her? Alone in the woods Bristol is a liar.
They're all lying their asses off.
ReplyDeleteProvide the emails to back up what you say--that's what the defense should focus on, and remind the jury that there is no real evidence to back up Frye's word.
And Bristol? In training for #2 Grifter.
Yeah, there are a lot of people protecting these frauds.
Oh, one other thing--Ivy Frye got a check from SarahPac in March of this year. She may not be an "employee" in the traditional sense of the word, but yeah, she's working for The Grifter, all right.
ReplyDeleteIf Bristol lied, she was following parental orders...like when she made a statement to the court about her ex-Uncle Wooten.
ReplyDeleteAnon 4:05 - Ivy Frye gets $5,000 a month from SarahPAC for clerical and communication services.
I'm wondering about the footage of Todd on the phone with Bristol. Was that a cell phone? In my recollection it was a land line. I don't know where to look for the footage online. Maybe someone else remembers?
ReplyDeleteBristol,
ReplyDeleteIf you were a little sex tease like your mother, this lying in federal court might get a pass, but you are a dull, dowdy, dumb teen, so you have to work HARDER on the lying bit.
This is unrelated but does anyone know how Willow's prom went? Supposedly she had prom this past weekend.
ReplyDeleteIf I remember correctly, there was a MSM story referencing weird activity around the palin property having to do with Bristol and this situation. Were security guards hired after the fact? I remember some mention back in 08
ReplyDeleteIf my daughter had been caught leading a bunch of her destructive and disgusting friends to an empty house for a party, you can be sure she would missing her prom.
ReplyDeleteAny intelligent person would have canceled the account and set up a new email address.
ReplyDeleteEnd of scary email threats.
So,we are to believe that her mother or father could not get a cell phone for her, why did palin just have Bristol's number changed?
End of scary phone calls.
sarah could not take a few min. of her time to do this for her daughter? WOW. That says a lot right there.
And considering they were all under SS protection. NOBODY could do anything about this?
I find this all hard to believe
Ivy Frye, Frank Bailey, and Bristol Palin.
ReplyDeleteThey wouldn't lie to protect Palin, would they?
Did Frye produce the "many emails" she claimed to have received? Or did they get erased?
Pretty soon Bristol will say: "I did not have sex with that man."
It's true, isn't it?
ReplyDeleteIvy is a switch hitter.
Re: Landline
ReplyDeleteGo back through every photo you can of the Palin house hold and look for a land line. There are plenty of kitchen shots and other rooms where you might be able to find one.
If Bristol is lying about a land line, it can be used to make the jury think twice about all her other statements.
I just heard on MSNBC that the Kernell kid could "get up to 50 years"!! Fifty years!! My god. He's a 22 year old! And he didn't "hack", he guessed.
ReplyDeleteIf he guessed Palin's password on about September 16, Bristol wasn't with Mommy on the campaign trail? No videos or photos to prove it one way or the other? Or maybe as she says, Bristol was suffering in isolation with no phone / food / transportation, cowering in fear from a hoard of boys at the door -(why is there always sex introduced into all things Palin??)
Bristol's testimony sure makes McCain's Secret Service detail look incompetent. Can't cell phone numbers be changed? New SIM cards? Mrs. Palin could run a city, handle Oil & Gas Committee, run the entire State of Alaska even from the campaign trail, monitor Putin, do all the other super-mommy things, tell us she'd make a fantastic VP, but she couldn't figure out a way to get her 17-year old pregnant daughter a phone? No credit card to call into a cell company to get one for the kid? Gimme a damn break. Another choice where if I have to believe them, then I have to say they are the stupidest bunch of people who ever lived. I think I've said that before.
for all we know, any hateful e-mails came from SP herself or other members of the family to PROVE she was a victim.
ReplyDeleteNobody cares about the slutty teenager.
any hateful e-mails came from SP herself or other members of the family to PROVE she was a victim.
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Don't you think that maybe the FBI looked into this? Perhaps the defense would have mentioned this during the discovery phase?
Try again.
don't they have to prove that they all received such emails?
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No. This just helps to amplify the case but all the prosecution has to prove is that Kernell broke into the email account and he's already admitted that. Bringing in Frye, Bristol and Palin just demonstrate that not only did he perform this illegal act, there were actual, harmful consequences. This wasn't some college prank, this was a crime. Maybe he didn't set out to do this when he started but that doesn't matter.
Regarding the landline, wasn't Bristol being homeschooled at this point? Didn't she work on the computer? Maybe she didn't have to use the internet, but I would think that she probably did.
ReplyDeleteShe read from one that said: "You don't know me. Neither do I know you, but we can change that."
ReplyDeletebwahahaaa!!!! good freakin grief...that sounds kinda flirty.
I wonder what Ivy would do with a REAL threatening email.
For all the rightwingers' talk about "trial attorneys" and "tort reform" and "frivolous law suits", I cannot believe that this case is being tried in a FEDERAL COURT and the wingers are all on board for throwing the book at this kid. I can't imagine how much taxpayer money is being used to make an example of this kid.
ReplyDeleteI am stunned that he wasn't offered a plea bargin, which makes me believe that the "victim" in this case did not support such an agreement.
When you think of SP's child committing a much more serious, damaging crime and the fact that SP was able to get her daughter out of prosecution, and then you see the Palin gang in full force testifying against this young man and trying to get him sent to jail, it's hard not to think that justice is not for the unconnected in this country.
I cannot believe that this case is being tried in a FEDERAL COURT
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Take it up with the Obama Admin Dept of Justice.
boys avoid Bristol like the plague -she's been around and is used goods.
ReplyDeleteShe's not the popular one anymore. She had her days in the sun and proved how fertile she is. Nobody wants to go there.