Sunday, May 09, 2010

Well here is a quandary, who do we believe? Sarah Palin or Oliver Stone?

(Photo courtesy of Agostini/AP; Corkery/News)

From the New York Daily News:

Sarah Palin and Oliver Stone remain the best of enemies.

"She won't shake my hand," Stone told us with a grin at Tuesday's Time 100 gala, where the right wing pinup and the left wing filmmaker crossed paths.

"I couldn't care less," he shrugged. Except that he thinks "she is such a liar."

Stone recalled that in "Going Rogue" - "that book her handlers wrote for her" - Palin claimed she had refused to shake his hand when they met backstage at "Saturday Night Live."

"But she did shake my hand," Stone insisted.

Palin stuck to her story, telling us, "I didn't shake his hand then or tonight."


Let's see in a contest between Oliver Stone who never met a conspiracy he didn't love and is known for stretching the facts to fit his narrative versus Sarah Palin who would not know the truth if it bit her in her cosmetically reconstructed ass (No I don't know if she had her ass done, I just like the way this sounds), who do we choose?  Who would you choose?

We asked her about suggestions, from people like Stone, that her beloved "everyday Americans" might have trouble relating to her reported $100,000 speaking fees and demands for Lear jets.
"These stories were kind of annoying about what I asked for - bendable straws and goofy things like that," she said. "It's also bogus how much money I supposedly make."
Really?  So everybody is a liar except you Sarah?  Hmmm Oliver is looking more truthful by the minute.

Pointing to her black lace dress, she said, "This is a consignment shop piece. You can ask [my husband] Todd. He'll say, 'Really, where is all that money?' We live in Wasilla, Alaska. You can't get more grounded than that."
You live in a freaking COMPOUND in Wasilla, with a driveway overfilled with of EIGHT CARS!  Both you and your daughter have had cosmetic surgery!  You had a television studio built inside of your house! That is not what is considered "grounded" in Wasilla.  "Grounded in Wasilla" is what happens to the people who dare to speak out against you in town.  You know like the Johnston family, and Mike Wooten, and anybody else who fails to recognize that you are ordained by God and therefore their superior.

It was never really a contest Mr. Stone, clearly you are by far the more believable individual in this particular disagreement. 

65 comments:

  1. Anonymous9:34 AM

    I feel certain that someone from SNL can confirm who is telling the truth. I don't imagine the two just bumped into each other all alone. Someone else witnessed the introduction.

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  2. Anonymous9:35 AM

    Also too, I think you should switch your image of Sarah from the Time 100 to the book tour with her Castro hat.

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  3. Anonymous9:38 AM

    Oh look, she is wearing her American/Israeli flag pin. She is so influential I wonder if she could negotiate peace?

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  4. Anonymous9:41 AM

    She is such an evil person, an outright liar, a sick sick narcissist and a sociopath. And I believe in Karma and we know God does not condone her lying and self-serving ways. She lives her live in a manner that is opposite of Christ's teachings. She knows it and she doesn't care.
    The media has given her a free pass so far, but it won't last. She says they lie and are lame but she would be a nobody without them.

    It's only a matter of time before the whole truth comes out about Sarah and her lies. I feel for her family.

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  5. Anonymous9:45 AM

    Memo to Half Term Governor in name only-Uh....Did you forget we all saw the terms of your contract.....in writing? It stated right in there what type of private jet you require, what kind of lighting and podium you require....AND those pesky bendy straws!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You honestly think none of us can read or have a memory? You are a nut case and a liar.

    Take your millions and go home! Your grandsons need you as well as your children.

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  6. honestyinGov9:54 AM

    Maybe she could have defended her position ' better ' by making a statement more closely to this.

    Backstage at the NBC theater....." There is no way I could have shaken his hand. It was physically impossible. BOTH of my hands were loaded up with bags of Swag " SEE !!! Now THAT we might have believed.

    " Happy Mothers Day " Trig... Who's your Mama ?

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  7. Anonymous9:59 AM

    Stone writes his own stuff. Palin, not so much.

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  8. emrysa10:04 AM

    the lies never stop. that woman could not tell the truth if her life depended on it.

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  9. Newsmax.com had a poll about Sarah palin.
    Here are the results.

    Thank you for taking the poll: Would you support Sarah Palin in 2012?. The poll results are listed below.
    Special note: The poll results may include data for questions that were not included on the poll that you took.

    Would you support Sarah Palin in 2012? (413 Respondents)


    Would you support Sarah Palin if she made a bid for the White House in 2012?
    # Yes
    366 (89.05%)

    # No
    34 (8.27%)

    # Maybe
    11 (2.68%)

    Interesting result. The poll results were not specifically for the poll I took, but the results overwhelmingly suggest the sarah should run in 12.
    What were the other questions?
    How fast do ya think these results will be on her facebook page without the second paragraph?

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  10. Anonymous10:20 AM

    Of course she didn't shake his hand. She would have gotten ink all over it from her poor man's teleprompter

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  11. Anne in texas10:20 AM

    My feelings are simple. I loathe this woman. She is vile and disgusting.

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  12. smallbluedot10:48 AM

    OMG! Who do we believe?? Hahaha! You could pair her up with almost anyone and she'd lose on that question, too. She's just so bleeping irritating! I have to keep telling myself - karma, karma, karma. How much money do you think she needs to make before she 'quits' and goes back to her compound?

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  13. Anonymous10:54 AM

    Surely someone will expose this ignorant, pathological liar for SOMETHING! Anything. There is so much out there, but this blithering idiot just keeps blundering on with no accountability for anything whatsoever. Oh, there were teases that "this is the big one, this will take her down, this is it..." blah, blah, blah, but that got to be really old, really fast.

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  14. Anonymous10:58 AM

    I don't feel sorry for the family. Bristol is showing her colors. She lies like mom. Piper has not choice but follow her mome around, though she can pout like a princess, and Diane Palin called her a stinker, so cutie pie has her uncute side. She too is learning how to lie at a masters side.

    And after lie after lie after lie is revealed, she continues to lie on.

    Why? Because her crackpot following don't care.

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  15. Anonymous10:58 AM

    Leave it to Palin to turn a handshake into a controversy...

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  16. Anonymous11:23 AM

    Love you even more Mr. Stone. Once again, Stupid Sarah shows her massive inferiority complex in the presence of greatness.

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  17. Anonymous11:26 AM

    Saint Sarah would kiss his arse if the price was right. I'm sure Stone knows not to waste his time nor his dime on her.

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  18. Anonymous11:28 AM

    A better question would be, who will be relevant in the next five years and who is a laughable 'Trivial Pursuit: Political Bloopers' edition question yet to be written?

    My money is on Oliver when it comes to relevance in the next few years.

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  19. Anonymous11:41 AM

    Once again, you folks are willing to embrace any worm as long as he says something nasty about Palin. Pathetic.

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  20. Anonymous11:49 AM

    Sarah:
    Jesus would want you to shake Oliver's hand.

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  21. deebee11:55 AM

    Of course she didn't shake hands, that would have smeared all her answers!

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  22. The Kenosha Kid12:23 PM

    SARAH PALIN REFUSES TO SHAKE HANDS WITH VIET VET!

    That's how to spin it

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  23. Anonymous12:42 PM

    On the one hand, one is a lunatic conspiracy nut who appeals to the fringe. . .and the other is an actual Patriot who served this country in a brutal war and is an Oscar Award nominated and winning director.

    Hmmm, who to believe?

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  24. Yes Anonymous 11:41 you have caught us. We are indeed pathetic.

    Thank you for bringing it to our attention just in case we did not realize that pointing out the lies and disinformation that flows from this woman to the public at large so that they can get a clearer understanding of just who Sarah Palin really is in order to stop more ignorant people, such as yourself, from falling under her spell, makes US the bad guys.

    So now that you have taken the time out of your busy, busy C4P recruited troll life to make us aware of how "pathetic: we are, we will be sure to take a moment out of each day to hate ourselves just a little. Right before we go back to exposing this fraud to the world at large.

    And really WHAT could be more pathetic than exposing the lies and mythology of Sarah Palin anyhow? I mean other than going to blogs you don't like and insulting the people whose opinions you disagree with?

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  25. "It's also bogus how much money I supposedly make." You can ask [my husband] Todd. He'll say, 'Really, where is all that money?' We live in Wasilla, Alaska. You can't get more grounded than that."

    Well, okee dokee, then. Todd hasn't seen the money; they live in Wasilla; she hasn't spent $12M -- ergo, she hasn't made $12M. Thanks to Sarah for getting the analysis back on track with plain ole common sense! She's sooo pretty, also!

    And now that it's cleared up that she's not all that rich and is 'grounded in Wasilla' (thanks for the great phrase, Gryphen!), we'd best get some checks in the mail to the AFT and SarahPAC.

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  26. Anonymous12:51 PM

    Gryphon,
    Thanks so much for all the effort you have put into exposing the Paylins for what they truly are; a lying bunch of scam artists, lead by the "Queen" Granny Grifter herself!
    It is enough to make working people sick, watching paylins getting one handout after another!

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  27. Anonymous1:00 PM

    Cordiality, grace, etiquette, manners... we know Sarah doesn't have any class whatsoever. I believe that Mr. Stone initiated the handshake gesture on their first meeting and Sarah refused to acknowledge it. Can you imagine doing that at meetings with international political dignitaries?

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  28. Anonymous1:05 PM

    Gee, now who would I believe....think, think...the grifter from Wassilly or Oliver Stone...

    I would not believe Palin if she told me the earth was round. The woman does not have a clue as to "the truth."

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  29. Gryphen made a solid point that the Palins are NOT 'Grounded in Wasilla' and I misused the phrase in my comment above. Apologies.

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  30. social media1:11 PM

    "Stone writes his own stuff. Palin, not so much."

    "Oliver Stone is one of the only true visionaries left in the contemporary cinema, a director known for his powerful and often controversial films. But beyond the controversy, lies a personal body of work that will long remain an influence in the cinema."

    Rebecca Mansour, Thomas Van Flein can't write a tweet or an honest ninth grade term paper. If they write anything that lasts it will be for the late comics to use.

    "What a great perspective. Thanks for weighing in Thomas."
    Sarah Palin and Twitter Usernames
    UPDATE:Thomas Van Flein, personal attorney for Governor Sarah Palin offers his unedited response to the decision made at the time and how Team Palin weighed the risks (public fight with the state of Alaska during a time of transition) versus the reward (keeping the account/followers)

    But Rebecca [36, a former screenwriter from Los Angeles] Mansour, who helps run Palin’s Internet operation, said Palin had to hand over her previous Twitter account to the state of Alaska because it was “regarded as state property,” so she couldn’t merely convert it to keep her followers.

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  31. Anonymous1:11 PM

    It's unbelievable how much controversy she stirs up. It's he says/she says almost on a daily basis. Who's going to trust this woman? Her truth meter isn't doing well for any kind of possible future serious candidate.

    Refusal to admit anything, lying, does damage to one's career, but the most important damage it does is to the children. Lies ruin, they deceive, they teach children to never trust anyone ever again; lies develop into bigger lies and one can never run away from them, they cause stress to others, ulcers, health problems, emotional and ultimately the biggest of all, spiritual upheaval. As it's said, Satan is the master and father of lies.

    Considering it's Mother's Day, and that many moms today are celebrated because of their sacrifice and deep love for their children, it makes one wonder how a mom could lie, lie, and lie some more to cover, conceal and think this won't affect their children.

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  32. Hopefully Stone will craft a movie based on the life and times of the Palins. Surely these frauds are worthy of a cinematic treatment that would expose them for the dysfunctional mess that they are. I'm certain there would be no shortage of actors and actresses auditioning for roles. Lindsay Lohan could play all of the females and Tom Cruise could play Todd.

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  33. I think maybe the IRS could do some digging and tell us who is being truthful about how much she has earned! Maybe it is time for some "patriot" to contact them.

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  34. BAustin1:22 PM

    How much fun would it be if Oliver Stone made one of his conspiracy movies about Palin....hahahahahha

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  35. Anonymous1:25 PM

    Of course Sarah(I love the military)Palin would treat a veteran that way, where as she adores Ted (I pooped my pants to dodge the draft) Nugent.

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  36. Anonymous1:30 PM

    Like we couldn't tell that she got that lace thing at the goodwill or salvation army. It looks like something my grandma would wear. I hate her lying ways.

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  37. Anonymous1:33 PM

    I would be honored if Sarah Palin refused to shake my hand. And I'd be THRILLED if Sarah Palin admitted she can not run for political office in the United States.

    How very pathetic I am! Although sane and rationale are my more outstanding attributes, pathetic will do to trigger the refrain my dear mother taught me, "Sticks and stones ...

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  38. Anonymous1:33 PM

    Bendy straws was in the contract, nobody made that up, good grief.

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  39. Anonymous1:59 PM

    It's funny how Palin dotes on the celebrity showbiz events, you know those Hollywood types she hates, but loves to hang out with. She's such a hypocrite, I'm glad her base is starting to wake up to what she is really about, so they can stop making up excuses to explain her..

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  40. Anonymous2:14 PM

    Isn't the former brother in law a veteran? If I recall he was not just a state trooper, but a veteran. She flits for the troops, but does not hesitate to throw under the crowded bus any vet who does not kiss her flat cheese. Stone should have no reason to dirty his hands to touch evil.

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  41. Anonymous2:18 PM

    Well, after agents and ghostwriters and lawyers and taxes, she probably only took home 5-6 million, which has been partially spent on building mansions and new vehicles and Coach purses. So maybe there's really not that much in the bank, plus what's left is probably being hidden from Todd anyway so he won't be able to get a fair cut.

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  42. Anonymous2:18 PM

    My feeling is that Sarah wouldn't have recognized Oliver Stone at SNL, unless someone told her, "Sarah, let me introduce you to Oliver". MOST people would simply extend their hand, and say "Pleasure to meet you". But, in the alternative world of t-baggers and $P, it turns into a drama.

    Given Stone's tendency to run with good stories, she might want to steer clear of undue controversy with the man, as he has the resources to fund a decent effort to get to the truth with all of her *gates.

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  43. if she told me 1+1 was 2 I'd seek independent confirmation from Einstein or Carli or a 5th grader.

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  44. "Of course she didn't shake hands, that would have smeared all her answers!"..


    PERFECT!!!!! lmao!

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  45. Anonymous2:54 PM

    After a comment about the Palin's life in the suburbs I came across this "Suburbs Losing Young Whites"
    Bristol Palin's white flight? America's suburbs are now more likely to be home to minorities, the poor and a rapidly growing older population as many younger, whites move to cities for jobs and shorter commutes. This is not good news. The Palin role models suck. I suppose Sarah is not at the Wasilla chateau long enough to matter but the Palin unmarried role model daughter with child in diapers and on formula says she moved to the big city. No more BURBS FOR BRISTOL! Who is next?

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  46. Anonymous3:42 PM

    Sarah probably didn't know who Oliver Stone was.
    And, if I have to pick one of them to believe, I will not pick Sarah. Let's count the whoppers that she has told us, including the most unbelievable wild ride story about leaking amniotic fluid while flying back 8-12 hours to Alaska, passing up numerous first rate hospitals and care facilities. There's Sarah's claim that she did not use her private email for government business when copies of the government emails discredit that statement. She called People Magazine to complain that Bristol and Levi were not high school drop outs, while neither of them was going to high school. The list goes on, "I sold it on Ebay," "I was against the Bridge to Nowhere," "The girls got threats when then went to high school in Juneau." I think that she hit a big brick wall when she tried to get Steve Schmidt to lie for her during the campaign regarding Todd's seven year membership in AIP. I believe Steve Schmidt and Oliver Stone.

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  47. Anonymous3:48 PM

    Notice that Palin didn't say that the details about what she asks for at speeches are lies. She said the details are "annoying."

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  48. Anonymous4:26 PM

    Stone is a thousand times more believed!
    The former brother-in-law, Trooper Wooten, is a veteran. Palin does not show respect for all who serve.
    I shutter to think of the prayer warriors Mother's Day prayers. May 9, 2010 What sentence might victim Sarah Palin urge for her hacker?
    One of those issues concerned whether under the federal Crime Victims Rights Act, Sarah Palin would formally qualify as a "victim" of the criminal hacker.
    Really...What does Palin think of a mother and son that are called to account and they face the accusers?
    Lt. Col Lillian Landrigan

    The Rise Of Scam Facebook Groups

    Kreep's PAC Scam

    Bundlers

    Bristol's PR firm

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  49. Anonymous4:34 PM

    She never got over how Stone was able to birth "Born on the Fourth of July" when she couldn't even paddle her flat ass off to a 'patriotic' baby Willow.

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  50. Anonymous4:56 PM

    AKPetmom 1:12
    I'm thinking the Coen brothers would do such a great job on a Palin themed movie.

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  51. Anonymous5:10 PM

    Does anyone else think this is just disgraceful? You cant be a politician if you let your true feelings show like that...so someone from the french socialist party comes into power, Sarah will snub them at their international meetings? Or even worse yet she would denounce France as an enemy of the USA. You CANT do that in politics; you meet with people on a daily basis that you disagree with, or dislike, or outright loathe, but you HAVE to be mature and put aside petty differences. Imagine congress if only the people that liked each other shook hands and said hello and everyone else was snubbed. What an evil loathsome individual Sarah Palin is.

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  52. Anonymous5:21 PM

    Go ahead and run for president in 2012, Sarah. We will look forward to you having to release your tax returns, so we can see just how modest your income has been since you quit your day job.

    I'm thinking this is the #1 reason she is not going to officially run. She'll just tease-run all the way to 2012. She didn't want to share her real medical records, and I'm quite sure she'll be the same about her finances, now that she is making the moo-lah.

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  53. Anonymous5:45 PM

    Why has sara been hiding Trig / Ruffles I sure hope she didn't throw them both under her bus!
    And what pray tell is wasilly snow?

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  54. she's a fraud5:49 PM

    Anyone who says that they are "grounded" because they live in Wasilla, Alaska yet insist that they fly on nothing smaller than a Lear 60 or Hawker 800 private jet is the very definition of HYPOCRITE.

    Sarah Palin is and will always be a liar, hypocrite, ignoramus, coward and FRAUD. Period.

    We know, Sarah. We know.

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  55. Anonymous6:40 PM

    Sarah Palin lied????

    I'm shocked, I tell ya! Shocked!!!

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  56. Anonymous8:45 PM

    I honestly don't know how much more of this I can take. Until I see for sure that she will be no where near public office again, I will force myself to spread the word about Palin and her poison. I'm getting so much shit on FB because I post there for all of my friends and family in the lower 48. I think my sanity would be better if I didn't live in Wasilla- there is something about sharing a "space" with that family that makes what she gets away with that much harder to accept.

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  57. Molly9:42 PM

    I agree SP wouldn't have known who Oliver Stone was and so shook his hand, then re-wrote history in "her" book.

    I forgot why she said she wouldn't shake his hand, but it doesn't really matter.

    She doesn't 'get' that her word is not good enough to prove or disprove anything.

    Oh, and Track looks extremely unhappy, tired, stoned, or all of the above in that USA Sunday insert thingie that contaminated my paper this AM. Nice happy family, right, Sarah?

    False in one, false in all.

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  58. Anonymous2:54 AM

    Anon 1:30 PM Grandma's would not wear paylin's lace thing she picked up at thrift shop. Has anyone noticed when Grandma $P thinks there will be younger, more attractive women at an event, she dresses dowdy. Bachman, of MN, is an example. No matter how ugly Bachman's politics, she is more glam, and younger than $P. Note the dark crushed velvet. She could not compete looks wise with Bachman so she threw on a lot of necklaces to draw attention to herself that way. If $P is the only pop tart there, out flits Grandma in her short short skirts and very high heels. Pancake makeup, wigs, ect. Grandma is so condident then. $P does not, I repeat, does not like women.

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  59. Anonymous3:32 AM

    If she runs in 2012 she HAS to release her medical information. THAT is why she won't run. She might have been able to get away with her permission slip from doctor crap in 2008 as VP candidate, but as a presidential candidate she will be required to release any and all information regarding her state of health (mental and physical).

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  60. Anonymous3:47 AM

    Anon commented on the reprecussions of lying. Habitual, compulsive and pathalogic lying only serves one person to aggrandize self. Personality disordered people who lie then deny their own words and actions do so at other's expense positioning people like chess pieces, no more than an object to use to their hidden agendas. Then people who live in reality and validated fact find themselves at odds or in disputes with people who automatically believe or who are conned by pathalogical liars who frighten, besmirch to outright destroy others so he/she can dominate people, dictate for their glory and power above others.

    Parents who lie, distort (twist) truth, model there is "nothing wrong" with lying for personal gain, dismiss destruction to others actively destroy the character of their children, destroy insidiously their abilities to discern truth, what to trust, incapacitate their children to have skills to seek true facts in general impair and handicap them for life. Delusional beliefs take root producing another generation of sick and twisted personalities who don't even value truth nor recognize it.

    It is obvious the Palin's are focusing on fictional or false persona and image control. Don't be surprissed the more money Palin makes that she will go public painting sself as poor...like Bristol has been out doing...it is the land of "opposites". Truth is truth, not what pathalogical liars state.

    BTW: I have noticed Palin lol must have repurchased RNC clothing from thrift shops she donated all the clothing to...lying scum IMO..disdain for truth or being real person..human honest, decent or playing fair.

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  61. Anonymous4:55 AM

    She didn't shake hands with Stone, but she tried to get him to propose to Bristol.

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  62. Anonymous5:08 AM

    I bought my mommie a Mother's Day gift, but I do not know who to give it to.

    - Trig Palin

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  63. Anonymous7:14 AM

    You see, it's stuff like this that drives me crazy. Was there NO ONE who witnessed that meeting? Sombody who can say, "Yes, they did shake hands" or "No, she refused to shake his hand." It's that simple.
    While the issue of whether she did or did not shake the man's hand is not important, the point is (once again) did she LIE about it? And also, WHY would she lie about something that could so easily be fact-checked. And thereby reveal the pattern of easily unchecked deceit. Simple.

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  64. Of course she shook his hand. You don't refuse to shake someone's hand in public. It's rude under any circumstances, but when people are watching? She's running for office, after all. There's NO WAY there weren't other people standing around. Not even Sarah the Maverick would flout those rules.

    It's just another example of her crafting a story to enlarge her image, like the wild ride, paddling to induce labor on the 4th of July so Willow would be a "patriotic baby", and pretending to ride a bus around the country.

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  65. "AKPetMom said...

    Hopefully Stone will craft a movie based on the life and times of the Palins. Surely these frauds are worthy of a cinematic treatment that would expose them for the dysfunctional mess that they are. I'm certain there would be no shortage of actors and actresses auditioning for roles. Lindsay Lohan could play all of the females and Tom Cruise could play Todd. "

    Then an Anon adds that the Coen Brothers would do good at it.

    I think those are excellent ideas!! First, a movie by Stone, as he investigates very thouroughly. He would at the very least, speculate some of the answers. Then a Coen Brothers movie. They are just hilarious!!
    There would be no shortage of information to build upon. And Oliver Stone & the Coen's must have excellent researchers. They would find the answers. And they would do a much, much better job than the MSM. They're not afraid of offending anyone.
    God, that woman is an idiot!!

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