Last week, Arizona state Rep. Judy Burges, a Republican, introduced a bill that would bar presidential candidates who do not prove they were born in the United States from appearing on the ballot in the Grand Canyon state. And state Rep. Chad Campbell, the top Democrat in the GOP-controlled Arizona House of Representatives, tells Mother Jones that the bill is likely to pass. It was introduced with 25 co-sponsors in the House and 16 co-sponsors in the state Senate; the measure needs 31 votes in the House and 16 in the Senate for approval. "Will it matter?" asks Campbell. "We've started a tradition here of passing legislation that is political grandstanding or that sets up litigation."
But the birthers—those ardent Obama foes who believe the president was not born in Hawaii and, thus, is not constitutionally qualified serve as president—see this measure as more than symbolic. For them, it's part of a well-orchestrated campaign to deny Obama reelection.
It's not that Obama necessarily requires Arizona's 10 electoral votes to win reelection in 2012. In 2008, he lost there to John McCain, Arizona's senior senator (though in 2012, Obama could make a play for the state). More important, Burges' bill—which would establish a strict standard for proving natural-born citizenship (which the birthers presume Obama could not meet)—is a model for other states, and similar efforts are under way in Pennsylvania, Missouri, Montana, Georgia, and Texas. (Obama won Pennsylvania in 2008 and lost Missouri by less than 4,000 votes.) Arizona may be where this birther ball gets rolling.
Jesus no wonder Sarah Palin is shuffling her kids off to Arizona and helping to set up a ground base there.
(Picture removed at request of source.)
.
So first Thomas Van Flein hightails it to Arizona to work for a teabagging Congressman as his "political advisor. "
Then Bristol defies her custody agreement, kidnaps her son and runs off to practice abstinence with her pipeline working boy-toy in the same state.
Later we come to find out that Sarah is also renting a humongous McMansion there as well.
And just now we learn that another teabagging Arizona Representative is trying to pass a law to make it impossible for Barack Obama to get on the ballot, because they realize that the only possible way they have of beating Obama is by somehow managing to stack the deck against him.
You know, much like Sarah Palin I also do not believe in coincidences.
At least not in this case.
I don't understand the point of the AZ law or how it's supposedly going to keep him from getting on the ballot considering the fact that HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMcCain was not born in the U.S. He was born in Panama. There are also rumors that Willard Romney (real name) was born in Mexico. And of course we all suspect that Sarah was born in Canada across the border from where Chuckie lived in order to get that socialist free Canadian health care.
ReplyDeleteYet another pointless waste of time and money.
ReplyDeleteThe requirements for POTUS are clear, including the requirements for citizenship. Obama has clearly met them, or he would not have been sworn into office - and the Supreme Court has already said - by refusing to hear "the case" - that this is a non-issue.
I'm so sick of watching posturing politicians pontificate on points they purport to ponder yet plainly are being purposefully partisian.
http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/palin3.htm click on sarah to make her move around...
ReplyDeleteThis is another big bridge to nowhere--for angry old white people to shout about. Barack Obama was a state senator, a U.S. senator and now President. No one questioned his credentials when he was a state senator and a U.S. Senator. Get real, birthers, ye old farts.
ReplyDeleteCreston Valley Hospital, Crenson, British Columbia is 67 miles north on US-95 from Sandpoint, Idaho.
ReplyDeleteDo you suppose John McCain is planning on retiring before this term is out? And do you suppose that the governor plans on appointing Sarah to that Senate seat? I can't imagine any other reason to set up camp there -- except that there's something in the works that will allow her to further her rather unrealistic political goals.
ReplyDeleteI am obviously slow here, but how will this keep Obama off the ballot since he proved he was born in HI already?
ReplyDeleteHe has already released his birth cert. What else is he supposed to do to prove he was born there?
will sarah commute to AK for the irondog?
ReplyDeleteDoesn't the FBI & CIA investigate the
ReplyDeletecandidates? Don't they know before they
are elected if they are eligible? I got out
my birth certificate & compared it to the
President's and what the birthers claim his
should say, and mine looks more like his
than theirs. Mine doesn't even have race
listed--not for me, or my parents.
This is beyond sick and scary and we need to reveal the truth of Palin's sordid past and get her out of any position of influence.
ReplyDeleteIn an effort to solve questions about her past I came across the name of Daniel R. Jackson who may or may not be linked to the person who posted the series of clues about Todd & the murder of a prostitute, Sarah convincing the Palmer DA not to prosecute him for child rape, Trooper Wooten not arresting him for domestic violence, and Sarah's mom & BFF trying to get his wife (girlfriend?) to move... Then the info about the trust fund and babies...?
If this is an innocent person and their name was incorrectly linked to this, I apologize, and am only trying to figure this puzzle out.
Does this name mean anything to anyone in the know?
Very interesting point from a labor and delivery nurse. The requirements for the original long form would be essentially impossible even for hospital births. But even more a friend of mine had all of her kids at home. No birth certificate, no doctor. A mid-wife came by later but essentially it as here and two women friends. So none of her kids could be President?
ReplyDeleteAlso. Small point but reading about this bill apparently even in the presence of similar documentation the State official can exclude a candidate unless "He" feels it fulfills the requirement.
How nice for AZ. I suspect it gets challenged in court and tossed out.
But it's more of the whole state's rights strategy. Win the Civil War they lost the last time
good. paylin can become president of AZ after they secede.
ReplyDeleteEvery one of these ignorant fools needs to have their head examined...do they dent that Hawaii was a state in the 1960's, cause that's what this boils down to. These teabaggers are becoming a national embarrassment .
ReplyDeleteVoter backlash will be a bitch come 2012, when all these fools have to show for themselves are oodles of failed extremist social policies .
I haven't seen anything this pointless or ridiculous since "freedom fries." Fire these a-holes.
ReplyDeleteBetter yet! The U.S. should sell Arizona to Mexico. Mexico will be happy to get some migrant laborers, after checking IDs.
ReplyDelete@4:19, nice alliteration!
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin is one sick woman and if Todd's family supports her like the trolls keep on saying then why in hell haven't they gotten her some help for her mental illness?
ReplyDeleteAnyone that acts the way she does and calls people names such as terrorist is badly in need of mental health care. I believe Sarah is getting paid to start a war in this country.
This will, of course, impact all Hawaiian residents because the verification of birth issue is going to be the same for anyone from Hawaii, not just Obama. I hope Hawaiians stand up to this nonsense now.
ReplyDeleteGuess this must be where the pregnant daughter by the name of Pistol is hiding out. Wonder if Van Flea is living in the house that was advertised as Bristol's because she is not there.
ReplyDeleteMy Father claimed religion was listed on the long form original birth certificate so I found mine (I am a pack rat) and no, my religion is not listed. So goes his theory as to why they "have not produced his original". I then explained to my father and mother (again) that there is no religious test to be President of the US. They worry a lot about the constitution. I don't think they have read it.
ReplyDelete" London Bridges said...
ReplyDeleteMcCain was not born in the U.S. He was born in Panama. There are also rumors that Willard Romney (real name) was born in Mexico. And of course we all suspect that Sarah was born in Canada across the border from where Chuckie lived in order to get that socialist free Canadian health care.
4:14 PM"
Has $P ever shown her birth certificate? How
would anyone know for sure it wasn't a forgery?
A post on Palingates on Sunday brings to light the fact that Sarah Palin is only the current embodiment of the underlying effort to hi-jack our democracy. We need to expand our efforts beyond seeing her exit the political stage to getting the broader picture exposed.
ReplyDeletehttp://palingates.blogspot.com/2011/01/sarah-palin.html
My birth certificate has my baby footprint. What do you bet that AZ will next insist for Obama's?
ReplyDeleteGood! Let the bitch from Wasilla burn through her ill gotten gains. I want her to be broke when she gets out of jail.
ReplyDeleteRick
Is Sarah going to give her father and mother money to live on after the republicans and teaparty take their social security checks and medicare away?
ReplyDeleteWe should demand to see Sarah's and Trig's birth certificates for that matter.
ReplyDeleteHow things change....Remember when California elected Arnold Schwarzenegger as their governor and it seemed as though so many right wing voters were in a frenzy to seek a constitutional amendment so that he could run for President in the future?
ReplyDeleteLest THEY forget!
I feel sure that Sarah Palin was born in Canada.
ReplyDeleteTo me it is no coincidence that the Tucosn shooting happened the same day Bristol arrived in AZ. Sarah is definitely setting up camp for some kind of aagenda their. But I cannot believe they could just appoint her to someone's seat without any kind of vote and such a short residency.
ReplyDeleteBut hey it is Sarah Palin and it seems she has people with deep pockets and the ability to cover up her evil and ugly dealings. The religious people that want power in this country to tell us what and how to do with our lives and bodies are evil.
Sarah Palin is not religious she is just a lady with looks that people are using to forward their agenda. So now the corrupt bastards club in AZ is backing the Sarah "The Evil" Palin.
I guarentee the shootinng there has some strings attached to Sarah and they will be covered up. This lady seems to have tenacles that reach far and wide and tickle all those rich ugly old GOP'ers right where it counts.
To me Sarah Palin is "The Porn Politican". She is screwing all these old bastards right on up the ladder to get where she wants. Yes by golly Sarah has her own prostitution ring "The Rich GOP'ers". Yuck!!!!
sarah's mcmansion...soon to be littered with empty taco bell wrappers and red bull cans. blech!
ReplyDelete"betsy s said...
ReplyDeleteMy birth certificate has my baby footprint. What do you bet that AZ will next insist for Obama's?
5:01 PM"
My hospital certificate has my footprints,
and my mother's thumb prints. It also has
a gold seal with pink ribbons. But my BC
has nothing like that.
Unfortunately, the brainwashed minions who tithe to the Queen will say that she's so "special" she deserves the manse she's renting on their hard-earned dime. After all, she's gonna lead them all to the light during the Rapture, doncha know! More likely, her megabucks Fundie backers are providing those digs for their little puppet, and the SarahPac bucks are her "fun" money (after paying RAM, of course).
ReplyDeleteAs far as trying to convince those bitter, cranky old Baggers that our President was indeed born in the USA, they'll cross their arms, huff, puff and counter with "It's a LIE!" or "But he's a MUSLIM!" I've tried!!
OK Gryphen, I know your not his keeper but... alaskawtf now goes to a godaddy page- is the domain name for sale? Is there a new site? This old lady misses that irreverent (to put it mildly) site.
ReplyDeleteBut Gryphen, Obama HAS proven that he was born in the USA. You're not saying Hawaii is not part of the US, are you? I didn't think so.
ReplyDeletePlus, as someone pointed out above, does this preclude someone who was born, say, in Panama, or on an military base in Germany, despite the fact that his parents are US Citizens?
I'm thinking AZans are not thinking ahead to how this might prevent someone they like running for President, rather than how they think it will keep a black dude from running again.
PS You backwards Arizonans (and I'm only referring to the stupid, racist ones) had better get used to the fact that YOU white people are quickly becoming the minority, and you better get used to it. Most of us don't mind, and in fact love the fact that people are from all over, and it's a lot easier to live that way.
Palin backers: It's Sarah's way or the highway!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/palin-backers-flee-gop-nominated/
How about Arizona require the birth certificates of the children of Presidential candidates.
ReplyDeleteSection 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States:
ReplyDelete“ No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Of course natural born is subject to interpretation.
"Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI feel sure that Sarah Palin was born in Canada.
5:15 PM"
It would explain her accent. And her hatred
for the United States. She is trying to destroy
the US. She can't be president, so no one
else should be president. She is going to
kill us all. I think the Tuscon shooter WAS
a Palin follower, that is why they haven't
come out & said he is a left winger, it is
because they don't want Sarah Palin to
be blamed.
Ok, I hear what you all are saying but what you have to realize is that these people (birthers) don't ACCEPT the birth certificate that Pres. Obama has presented. They also have found fresh evidence (they believe) of conspiracy in the current Gov. of Hawaii's recent statement that he can't find the birth certificate.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting, per msnbc.com: “Democratic lawmakers in Hawaii introduced a bill this week that would allow anybody to obtain Obama's personal documents, an effort aimed to silence so-called ‘birthers’ and close a projected $800 million budget deficit over the next two years,” The New York Daily News reports. “The legislation would reverse a privacy law that bars the release birth records to anybody without a tangible interest, like family members.”
Ha! Could work against a certain person and the son she "gave birth to", huh? Alaska? Feel like proposing such a bill, also too?
Hey Burge and Campbell from Arizona! Why limit the BC for Presidential elections? Show us your birth certificates and they must look exactly like what you're demanding of Presidential candidates. What a bunch of white ass old coots. Go back to England where your immigrant ancestors came from. God I hate these people. It stopped being funny about 2 years ago.
ReplyDeleteI think you need to clarify your point in this current post.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean that a "teabagging Arizona Representative is trying to pass a law to make it IMPOSSIBLE" for Obama to compete in the next election. It would only be IMPOSSIBLE if it were proven he was not born in this country.
And I think most reasonable people have been satisfied that he WAS.
I have a close friend who was born in Hawaii in the 70s... when she applied for a passport as a college student (to study abroad), she was asked if she had a green card! Felt like deja vu when the "birther" issue appeared!
ReplyDeleteRigging elections is the Palins' speciality. Sarah only got elected in the first place by fanning flames, lying, and looking sexy. Sarah had her hand in Joe Miller's illegal attempt to oust Randy Ruedrich. Sarah had her minions help Bristol to steal DWTS honors. Sarah will do and say anything to get elected. No conscience. She's sick.
ReplyDeleteHer opponents better believe that NOTHING is beneath her.
Obama did not even have to be born in Hawaii to be a US citizen. His mother was a US citizen. He could have been born on the moon and still be a citizen because she was. John McCain was not born in the US but no one complains about that.
ReplyDeleteSarah has never produced one iota of proof that Trig is her baby. How about we see HIS birth certificate?
Hilary Clinton wanted to be President. Bill want her to be President. Do you think if the Clintons had a suspicion about President Obama's citizenship, they would not have pursued it?
ReplyDeleteMy birth certificate is the short form, list my, name, date of birth and parents name. This is it and no one has ever questioned my citizenship. This law reeks of racism, no wonder Sarah likes her new adopted state.
O/T where are the Palin Kids?Alaska or Arizona?
what a waste of precious time and state funds. some god-awful gop think tank from the depths of hell came up with this strategy and is selling it to gop legislatures in other states.
ReplyDeletehow in the f can it possibly work when it has been proven time and time again that obama was born in hawaii?!? what part of that do they think they can get around.
and as for sarah's mcmansion, do you know where it is in az? what is she doing down there? i was wondering where that greta interview was taped from - tackyville, az.
Do you think that if Dubwya, Cheney and that whole clan with access to the CIA, FBI and SS, had evidence that the Obama was not a US citizen, that they would have hesitated to use it? (Unless, of course, they wanted him to win, in order to clean up their mess.)
ReplyDeleteWhen it gets to the federal court level, and it will, it is unconstitutional to write laws that apply to a single group of people much less a single person. It's that equal protection thing.
ReplyDeleteIt will be interesting to see if Arizona can discuss, debate, and pass the law and never mention Obama as the target of the law, so that when it goes to court they can claim it is not aimed at just one person.
Assuming the Supremes uphold it, then there would be the law suits that would follow Arizona refusing to place the nominee of a major party for the position of POUTS on the ballot. So the Supremes would then have to take a stand on whether the legally binding "certificate of birth" issued by every state is in fact legally binding as to proof of birth and by extension proof of citizenship.
It would make a hell of a mess if the Supremes ruled that state issued certificates of birth are not binding, it would effect tens of thousands of employees, especially in the military and government, especially in positions that require security checks. And everybody who has a state issued driver’s license also too.
There could be a somewhat amusing complication for the Tee Peers as invalidating state level certification that proves citizenship, that power would of necessity have to fall on the Federal Government, thus taking away from the states one of their remaining acts of state level sovereignty that is legally biding all other states.
These baggers better stop and think. Many of them are fundamentalists into home schooling and the Bible and home birthing because they think that their kids would be forced to have SSN if born in a hospital.
ReplyDeleteWell, geez, if they are being born at home, without certified personnel, it could be difficult to get a bona fide BC. At least that might spare the country from having one of their kids from becoming President in 35 years.
Baggers and dominionists - stupid - dangerously stupid - but stupid nonetheless.
Anmon
ReplyDeleteI'm so sick of watching posturing politicians pontificate on points they purport to ponder yet plainly are being purposefully partisian.
4:19 PM
Well put!
Sarah, should you be so blessed as to achieve the same level of success in Arizona that you achieved here in Alaska then most Arizonans will surely come to loathe and detest you just like Alaska does. I pray you continue your devilish work. I trust in your talent to tear down good people and institutions. I have every faith that someday you'll reach your glorious goal of getting 100% of Americans to despise you and your family.
ReplyDeleteConsidering that most states and the country at large are all suffering from crippling financial deficits, it is unconscionable that anyone should pursue legislation that is destined to end up being thrown out in court. Millions of dollars will be spent arguing these bills and the only people who will ultimately benefit are the attorneys.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, NOTHING will satisfy the people who don't believe the birth certificate that was released 2 years ago, which, incidentally, looks just like mine! They don't care about birth certificates or citizenship or eligibility to be president...they just can't stand that a black man is in the Oval Office.
She must have taped her "Van SuckAss WTF Donut" rant in Arizona, leaving Mr. Mom behind in the Wasilla Playboy Mansion.
ReplyDeleteThat's the headline Arizona says: Hawaiians can't be President.
ReplyDeleteI live in Tennessee and the politicians here embarrass me on a regular basis. If I lived in Arizona, I'd be calling every state rep there and telling them to stand up and stop the crazy.
My brother was born in Hawaii in 1949 - I wonder if he can be President. I sorta hope not :-)
ReplyDeleteMost Americans really have three birth certificates, if not four or more.
ReplyDeleteThe one held in the states' Departments of Record is the so called long form. No body ever sees that one except the physicians that fill them out and a few employees of the various Departments of Record.
Privacy laws and the need to insure the safety of those documents means they are not available to the public.
The Department of Record issues the legally binding birth certificate like the one that we have seen a couple of hundred times lately.
Also, the hospital, mid wife etc. will create a nice document for the parents as a keepsake.
Since those are often lost or destroyed, they are not legally binding.
And if a person is born in a hospital or delivered by an authorized medical person there will be a record of the birth in the hospital's records, and the physician's records. These are also not legally binding certificates of birth.
Remember, about McCain, he was born to American parents, it doesn't matter where he was born, he is American. So even if Obama was not born in the US, his mother was American, that makes Obama American.
Jon Stewart is eviscerating Sarah Palin again! Hilarious!
ReplyDeleteFrom Russia with Gov. Jon Stewart is the best!!
ReplyDeleteLondon Bridges - "Palin backers: It's Sarah's way or the highway!"
ReplyDelete--------
The linked article seems to show that the rabid Palin fans are few and dwindling. A poll released Friday showed only 10% of Republican primary voters (down from 19% polled earlier in Jan.) preferred Palin.
So, if Sarah isn't nominated, only 2.2% of Republicans are 'very likely' to vote 3rd party with a total of 4.6% 'likely' to vote 3rd party.
History shows when election time rolls around these types of numbers go down.
It seems a lot of Republicans like her but won't vote for her.
ICK ICK ICK!!! STOOPID.
ReplyDeleteSo no one seemed to believe me last night when I said that the Swag-Hag would bleed you as a state dry and then leave you in the dust wheezing and flailing about...Gryph has just shown you PROOF.
ReplyDeleteI want a law that requires anyone running for president or vice president to have their universities release her college transcripts. You know, just as if she were applying for a job--which she is.
ReplyDeletearizona is clearly overpaying their legislators
ReplyDeleteWait: A state official can exclude someone if they feel the proof of residency aren't met?
ReplyDeleteGAH!
So, not only are rogue states saying that the federal government can't tell its citizens to buy health insurance, but NOW states are saying that THEY have the authority to determine who's qualified to be president?!?!?! The wackiness -- it will never end.
When my kids were born, there were several kinds of birth certificates. The one that the hospital gives to the new mom has the baby's hand print and foot print on it, along with a picture of the hospital, and plenty of scrolls and banners. It is a keepsake, not a legal document.
ReplyDeleteThe real official birth certificate is filed with our county clerk. I will never get to see it, and no one else can either. What I can get are photocopies which require the embossed seal of the county clerk to be legitimate and legal.
The truth is that anyone can get a copy of my birth certificate. All they have to do is fill out a form and pay a fee. A while ago, you had to go to the county clerk's office, take a number, and wait to fill out the forms, and then wait some more for the photocopies. Much of that can be done on-line, and they mail the document.
This is also the case for death certificates, marriage and divorce documents, an amazing invasion of privacy. But, the original documents will always be locked up and the only documents available to the public are copies with the appropriate seal.
What a waste of taxpayers money... The t-baggers keep going over the same thing again & again hoping for a different outcome. Like the facts are going to change if they pray hard enough.
ReplyDeletePresident Obama was born in Hawaii, which is a state (one of the 50 and not even a territory!) He has held a US Passport for decades.
If there was one iota of proof he was (is) not a US Citizen....Palin would have used it.
If AZ will not allow all the party candidates on their election forms - then NONE of their votes should count. Arizona will not participate in any Federal Elections, and perhaps remove all the representatives & senators. Works for ME!
Gryph, is this story accurate? Did SP ban legally licensed handguns at her speaking event? Wow, she really is a second amendment hypocrite. http://host.madison.com/ct/news/article_f0beca9a-2b1a-11e0-ae94-001cc4c002e0.html
ReplyDeleteHey, folks, looks like alaskawtf is on its way back up!
ReplyDeleteJon Stewart nails Princess Dumbass again...She's a Russian Spy!!! This is classic.
ReplyDeletehttp://tv.gawker.com/5748385/jon-stewart-is-sarah-palin-a-russian-spy
Don't they teach students to read in Arizona? The birth certificate has been on the Web for years. The state of Hawaii says it's a true certified copy, just like the copy anyone else born in Hawaii would receive upon request. Factcheck.org examined it to their satisfaction.
ReplyDeleteNope, they can not read in Arizona. They're too ignorant to be allowed to vote. Their electoral votes should be disqualified altogether.
I'm reading up on psychopathology. I've got some excerpts from some people who helped a certain Polish psychologist translate his book about the study of evil in politics. It looks like a very important book, perhaps a breakthrough in understanding the human condition (Political Ponerology):
ReplyDeleteThere are a number of traits that we find in psychopaths: An obvious trait is the complete lack of conscience. They lack any sense of remorse or empathy with others. They can be extremely charming and are experts at using talk to charm and hypnotize their prey. They are also irresponsible. Nothing is ever their fault; someone else or the world at large is always to blame for all of their 'problems' or their mistakes. Martha Stout, in her book The Sociopath Next Door, identifies what she calls the pity ploy. Psychopaths use pity to manipulate. They convince you to give them one more chance, and to not tell anyone about what they have done. So another trait - and a very important one - is their ability to control the flow of information.
They are also incapable of deep emotions.
Our whole emotional life is a mystery to them, while at the same time providing a tremendous tool for them to manipulate us.
They also seem to have no real conception of past or future, living entirely for their immediate needs and desires. Because of the barren quality of their inner life, they are often seeking new thrills, anything from feeling the power of manipulating others to engaging in illegal activities simply for the rush of adrenaline.
They are experts in knowing how to push our buttons, to use our emotions against us. But beyond that, they even seem to have some sort of hypnotic power over us.
Psychopaths exhibit unusual inter-hemispheric distribution of processing resources, have difficulty in appreciating the subtle meanings and nuances of language such as proverbs, metaphors, and so forth, have poor olfactory discrimination, possibly because of orbito-frontal dysfunction, and may have what appears to be a sub-clinical form of thought disorder characterized by a lack of cohesion and coherence in speech. All of these cognitive and affective anomalies cannot be explained by any of the other models of psychopathy, and they can be detected with brain scans.
Who is paying the rent? Is Palin pulling a Christine O'Donnell and is claiming this Arizona house as her political office?
ReplyDeleteOh shit, does this mean Todd has the run of Wasilla without his boss Sarah looking over his shoulder? Did Sarah hire a nanny for Todd? Hey Todd, party time!
ReplyDeleteBirthers just won't be fooled by those two birth notices announcing Baby Barack's birth. It was merely part of the dastardly plan....
ReplyDeleteWhat does McCain have to say about this?
ReplyDeleteLooking at the picture of the house, which room is Sarah's and which room belongs to the pool boy?
ReplyDeleteSarah told Tawd, two can play at this game.
They hope that by adding birther bills to elimination of the 14th Amendment (naturally-born citizens), the only people able to rise to power will be those who have direct descent from the Founding Fathers.
ReplyDeleteSince the Mormon Church is the collector and collator of all such records, Romney and his immediate forebears will miraculously be translocated to American hospitals for birth, and then back down to Mexico with the entire polygamous crew.
The Romney family denounced their citizenship. They NEVER applied to get it back.
So wonder who really owns the house and what Sugar Daddy old white man is paying for the Witch Sarah to live there?
ReplyDeleteIs Willow still farmed out to some other family? Wonder if Trig's real mother is taking care of him cause we know Sarah has never taken care of that little baby. Is Bristle recupating there at this mansion in her pregnant state or has she had the new baby yet?
The rumor is that Bristol is having an affair with Gino, a pipe layer and also another boy in the band in Alaska.
Rather than keeping Obama off the ballots, this will more likely put this silly 'not born in the US' meme away for good.
ReplyDeleteHe was born in the US; it has been documented even though Birthers refuse to accept that. Officials of Hawaii have confirmed with through records as well as anecdotially. It's only crazy Birthers who refuse to accept that.
As president, it is truly beneath his concerns to spend time trying to satisfy them. Such efforts would only pander to the crazies.
However, if this bill becomes law, all candidates, not just Obama, would have to satisfy its demands, so he wouldn't be singled out. Acceptable documentation would have to be specified; there's no doubt he could produce what other candidates could produce. They officially can't refuse to accept official documentation from other states without exposing themselves for what they are.
They are shooting themselves in the feet.
May I point out that there are many Arizonans like me, who are registered as Democrats and independents. We resent being grouped with tea Party crazies and neo-nazi thugs. We are in the minority here, but we are doing our very best to rid ourselves of these people who want to destroy our ability to earn a living and educate our children, not to mention enjoy any other rights and privileges.
ReplyDeleteBeing invaded by the dysfunctional family from hell( Wasilla,AK)is NOT in our best interests!
I think what is most scary about this is that it seems whoever is 'in charge' can decide whether or not the documents given by candidates are enough proof of 'natural' citizenship (which isn't clearly defined in the Constitution, so there's an opening for stupid like this anyway). This way, they can keep out anyone they don't like. Interesting strategy, and only one you would find in a state where the majority of its conservative residents screech (probably on a daily basis) about the "wasteful spending of the government," yet probably back the legislature's wasting time on this, since it will hopefully be negated by the Supreme Court, if and when it gets that far.
ReplyDeleteAnyone could still 'write-in' Obama's name if he wasn't listed on the ballot.
ReplyDeleteAnd I would be sick beyond comprehension if AZ Gov Brewer appointed sarah to Gabby Gifford's seat (should her injuries prevent her from finishing her term).
Besides, I believe the law says the husband would be appointed before any others.
Hilary Clinton wanted to be President. Bill want her to be President. Do you think if the Clintons had a suspicion about President Obama's citizenship, they would not have pursued it?
ReplyDeleteIf my memory serves me correctly, it was a Hillary staffer who filed the first court challenge regarding Obama's citizenship.
Natural born means born in the US. In McCain's case they ruled he was natch born because his parents were citizens and he was born on a US military base, allegedly, in Panama
Even if Obama were born in Kenya, which I don't believe for a second, his mother was an undisputed American. That makes him American anyway. What's the issue? McCain wasn't born in an American state either. Wasn't he born in Guam?
ReplyDeleteWell, that get-up definitely puts Granny Sarah into celebrity status and out of teabagger land cause don'tcha know them there teabaggers don't like Hollywood.
ReplyDeleteSo has Murdock already installed a tv studio in this house cause she apparently has been broadcasting from a different studio and not Alaska?
Well, this to me is another coincidence about the shootings in Arizona of trying to take out a democrat lawmaker. All these Palin people move down there, Bristol buys a house for someone to live in and then Sarah moving in a mansion there.
ReplyDeleteI still believe there is a connection in those shootings that relate to Sarah and that really should make a lot of people stop and put her under a microscope.
She better be walking a very fine line because if not, something is going to come out and bite her in the ass. Sarah sure is carrying around a lot of baggage.
Got an address?
ReplyDelete@anonymous 5:52: Chad Campbell is one of the good guys. He is the house minority leader and every time he gets chance to speak on the radio or TV he is articulate and completely sane in his assessment of the total asses who are in charge in AZ. How he manages to completely discredit the actions and motives of the idiot Goppers and Baggers and still maintain a respectful tone, I'll never know. He is wonderful and all the non crazies stuck here in Moronzona need to get behind him.
ReplyDeleteBut the deal is that we have seen his birth certificate. So what form of documentation are they going to accept?
ReplyDeleteThe idiot birthers don't understand you don't get the old style birth certificate anymore. It's all on computer. I've never seen the "long form" birth certificate for my *own children*. If I request one, I get something from the state of Texas that looks a heck of a lot like what Hawaii has shown for Obama. Can my children not be president now?
NEWS FLASH
ReplyDeleteHere is the connection to establishing Palin residence in Az:
Sarah Palin sets up residence in Az.
McCain retires.
Gov Jan Brewer hand picks his replacement with Az resident.
Just so happens Palin is a resident of Az.
Sarah Palin is a Senator without having to compete for that position.
Why Az? Sarah would be too embarassed if she ran for an Alaskan senate seat and lost. Right now Palin is not popular in Alaska.
McCain, Brewer and Palin are all in on this.
This is McCain's revenge and payback to President Obama.
The stench of racism permeates every issue the teabaggers hyperventilate about. These racist asshats simply will never accept a black POTUS, no matter what. Having Obama as president is just about their worst nightmare come true. I bet these assholes lose sleep at night worrying about how to hide their wives and daughters.
ReplyDeleteAnother good reason to have Obama as president.
Is this house in Az Sarah Palin's White House?
ReplyDeleteWill FOX put a tv studio in the new house or is this their excuse to dump her?
ReplyDeleteLet's keep in mind, the question the birthers have is whether the President is a "natural born citizen", which of course, he is, having been born in the US in 1961. His mother being from the US makes him a citizen, but being born here makes him "natural born". That's the critical part, that they're in denial about. And BTW, Romney's dad was born in Mexico, and I remember there was some discussion about George Romney's qualification to be President, but I was a small child. It doesn't seem to be a big deal according to wikipedia. Course he was white. Mitt Romney was born in Michigan.
ReplyDeleteWhy such a big house for Sarah? Does she need a place to store all those books she bought from herself?
ReplyDeleteHey Sarah,
ReplyDeleteDoes this house comes with a cement slab and a table with 4 chairs from Walmart?
Girl you know you need a place to do your research and readin' - WINK WINK.
Don't forget the four chairs so that your family of 6 and Bristol's 3 kids -Trig, Tripp and Cha Ching will have a place to sit for your family outings.
Hey Todd, no place to land your water plane next to Sarah's new house. I guess you are not in her plans.
ReplyDeleteMake sure your plane's gas tank does not contain a water mixture. Funny things happens to people Sarah wants to git rid of.
Hey folks, the Wasilla Hill Billy has made it big time! She finally got herself a CEMENT POND.
ReplyDeleteDo you think the Palins will wash her clothes in the big cement pond?
Isn't that just like Sarah Palin, she gets a house with a cement pond and allows Tri-G to crawl around without any supervision?
Sarah must have just gotten out of the pool. Looks like they're vacuuming all the stink away.
ReplyDeleteReading about Todd's plane and water mixture in the gas tank made me think a little. There was Sarah's lover Menard who died when his plane crashed from fuel contamination and then there is the Arizona congresswoman who Sarah targeted.
ReplyDeleteTodd, you may want to lay low for a while.
Ole hillbilly Sarah living out in a manse and watching "Days of Our Lives" on the tube, eating Taco Bell and drinking Red Bull.
ReplyDeleteYee haw, go git her.
"The People's Republic of Arizona" has conquered all potholes, wiped out homelessness, and has schools that lead the world. They should apply for a seat at the United Nations to fully impact national and world issues.
ReplyDeleteThis is crazy and as stupid as it is, I hope everyone writes to their congressmen and lets him or her know how ridiculous it is, a complete and utter waste of time that our congress is even spending a minute on something as inane as this. The intent of the law always was to prevent an adult, who had spent much of his life overseas, from becoming president. Fine... accept that THAT might be a good idea for the sake of this conversation.
ReplyDeleteBut most people don't realize that the birth certificate of a legally adopted child is identical to that of a "natural born" child. I have a friend who adopted a child from the former Soviet Republic of Georgia and then, after being told she could "never" get pregnant, did - twice. Her three children's birth certificates (Texas) are identical, except for the child's name. (I asked her.) There is NO indication that the first child is not "natural born." If that boy runs for president in 40 years, unless someone in the family "in the know" would say, "He was adopted from Soviet Georgia," it would never come to light.
There is also a growing (albeit crazy IMHO) group in the US who are having unattended home births. No dr, no midwife, just mom and dad. Some extreme women are doing their births themselves, with no dad present. Who can ever say where those children REALLY come from? Unattended home birth or stolen in Mexico?
After a few days, they take the baby into a health department, state that they had an unattended home birth and are quietly given... a form to fill out which entitles them to a birth certificate. No "certificate of live birth" actually exists for those children, either. Should they be denied the right to run for the presidency?
In addition, birth certificates vary state to state and decade to decade. My birth certificate from the 1950s lists my parents' marital status and does list the hospital of my birth. My children's (same state) from the 1980s has none of this information.
This whole thing is unbelievably dumb.
So all these Republicans from national to state to local candidates ran on a platform of jobs, the debt, and earmarks but do they do anything about those?
ReplyDeleteNo, just a scam to get in to office to pursue wedge issues as well as to keep any progress being made to solve the true problems plaguing this country.
Thanks Tea Baggers (and I've been really trying to use Tea Partiers instead of Baggers) but when they pull this crap I can't take them seriously hence...Baggers.
P.S.
ReplyDeleteWant to make stupid laws like this then maybe it's time that Arizona stops getting any Federal money. You want to act like you're not a part of this country then maybe you should think about what it means to be a part of this country and not you own little fiefdom.
Frankly quite a few states would love to split the money that goes to the bigoted fiefdom that is Arizona and let's see that state do without Federal money. I'm sure they won't mind going back to dirt roads, child labor, and keeping them thar women barefoot and pregnant.
As a child I saw an American walk on the moon, who thought we'd attempt to become the model of societal regression.