From the Atlantic:
J Street is saddened by Governor Palin's use of the term "blood libel."
The country's attention is rightfully focused on the memorial service for the victims of Saturday's shooting. Our prayers continue to be with those who are still fighting to recover and the families of the victims. The last thing the country needs now is for the rhetoric in the wake of this tragedy to return to where it was before.
We hope that Governor Palin will recognize, when it is brought to her attention, that the term "blood libel" brings back painful echoes of a very dark time in our communal history when Jews were falsely accused of committing heinous deeds. When Governor Palin learns that many Jews are pained by and take offense at the use of the term, we are sure that she will choose to retract her comment, apologize and make a less inflammatory choice of words.
The Anti-Defamation League, which fights anti-Semitism, wishes Palin would have used a different term, one that isn't so "fraught with pain in Jewish history." From its national director, Abraham Foxman:
"It is unfortunate that the tragedy in Tucson continues to stimulate a political blame game. Rather than step back and reflect on the lessons to be learned from this tragedy, both parties have reverted to political partisanship and finger-pointing at a time when the American people are looking for leadership, not more vitriol. In response to this tragedy we need to rise above partisanship, incivility, heated rhetoric, and the business-as-usual approaches that are corroding our political system and tainting the atmosphere in Washington and across the country."
"It was inappropriate at the outset to blame Sarah Palin and others for causing this tragedy or for being an accessory to murder. Palin has every right to defend herself against these kinds of attacks, and we agree with her that the best tradition in America is one of finding common ground despite our differences.'
"Still, we wish that Palin had not invoked the phrase "blood-libel" in reference to the actions of journalists and pundits in placing blame for the shooting in Tucson on others. While the term "blood-libel" has become part of the English parlance to refer to someone being falsely accused, we wish that Palin had used another phrase, instead of one so fraught with pain in Jewish history."
For those who thought that Palin could NOT possibly make things worse for herself by issuing a carefully crafted statement I just have to say, "You REALLY don't know Sarah Palin. Do you."
I confess, I did expect Rebecca Mansour to do a decent statement for SarahPac and the family. Now I get why she won't show her face.
ReplyDelete" Anonymous said...
After the shock wore off after hearing the news that Gabby was shot, the next thought that came to mind was 'wasn't Gabby one of the people targeted on the palin's cross hairs map'?
It looks like whole districts were in the crosshairs with a list of names at the bottom. Whatever they thought they were doing it is a reckless attact on opponent's districts. Sarah Palin targeted the districts and everyone in them. Ignorance is no excuse. SarahPac placed districts on their hit list map with crosshairs. Jared Loughner only targeted Gabby before he got the glock and went to the local Safeway. He had one target before he went there, not the whole district as I understand. Why did he change and shoot the child through the heart and the others?
Why he decided to empty his magazine is still to be determined. He may have seen the SarahPac map and decided to attack the district as was seen on the cross hairs map.
I hear that the FEC allows a Pac to attack an opponent, that is a lot of what SarahPac does. Sarah could show bombers or drons taking out Toledo, Ohio if she opposed a political opponet in the area and that would be acceptable for a Pac. SarahPac can say they are a victim of bad FEC rules and regulations.
I don't blame them one bit for being bent out of shape; they've every right to be.
ReplyDeleteBut if they are going to wait for Palin to retract her statement, they're in for a loooong wait.
She is pathetic indeed, trying to turn this into yet another "poor Sarah Palin" episode. Has she no decent bone whatsoever in her body? She is one sick cookie, no doubt about it. Presidential material she's not, by a long shot.
She is the queen of the lunatic fringe
ReplyDeletehttp://williambanzai7.blogspot.com/2011/01/lunatic-fringe.html
That second picture in the above, placed next to the 9-year-old girl who was killed in Tuscon should be the last we hear from the Wasilla Mafia supporters, but sadly it won't be, I'm afraid.
Sarah didn't write that, the grammer was too good. I have no doubt it was written out of house by a team of most likely FOX publicist who then gave it to her to record. Palin has no idea of the meaning of the term "Blood Libel", or anyone around her. I just wondering how many people she's laying off right now, if she has any left besides Mansour.
ReplyDeleteAND pissed off some of our non-Jewish friends, like me.
ReplyDeleteOh scara, scara, scara, you are sooooo good at doing things sooo poorly. I bet you are sooo proud. Now don't go off and cry about this attack, OK. But firing some of your handlers might be a suggestion you should heed. Let's see...... what group of people is left for you to offend???????? Keep up the good work, you are almost done with your task. Today, you get a gold star right on your forehead. I am sorry, scara dear, I ran out of crosshair stickers.
ReplyDeletesaw this today,,,
ReplyDelete"today is a memorial for the victims of the arizona tragedy.
apparently sarah palin thinks she is one too."
bill in belize
Good grief! Jews, Christians, Democrats, journalists, "haters", shooting victims and their families, the deceased,County Sheriffs, Congresswomen. Who the hell is left to insult today?. Actually there are still 8 1/2 hours to go.
ReplyDeleteSo true that Scarah will always resort to her dog whistles. "Blood libel" is a low blow and she and her writers knows it. Of all the terms, that is why the ghostwriter chose it.
ReplyDeleteSarahPac admitted guilt when they took the map down within minutes of finding out about the attacks. They knew it was wrong and by their actions have admitted that they were mistaken to have used crosshairs.
I'm Jewish, and a student of Jewish history, and for me the term "Blood Libel" is fraught with odious and scary visions of past pogroms and other death scenarios. What I can't understand is how Republican Jews (well, that's an odd term)can bend themselves into pretzels trying to rationise Palin's use of the term.
ReplyDeleteIt's almost funny to watch them do it.
I'm also getting sick of hearing pundits claim that Loughner was not "political". He seems obsessed by government mind control, having only gold for currency and literacy. If you have ever looked at some of the more extreme political sites you will see these themes. A 22 year old kid didn't imagine this stuff. In time we will find out what sites he was reading and other influences he had. He did not live in a vacuum and was influenced by the society he lived in.
ReplyDeleteto 12:26 PM:
ReplyDeleteWas the 2nd picture actually from SarahPac website? or was it in response to the shooting?
Can anyone explain to me why Loughner was not exercising his 2 amendment right to do something about a government he believed to have become tyrannical?
ReplyDeleteDoes this get any better??? Can we hold out hope that the "frying pan" and the "fire" are now one and Scarah is smack in the middle??
ReplyDeleteI know I shouldn't be by now, but I am just astounded to see all of these earnest, polite, educational calls for Sarah to please apologize and say she didn't mean to use "blood libel" in expressing her response. These pleas to Sarah come from smart, educated writers and officials.
ReplyDeleteAnd not a one of them has realized that no, Sarah doesn't apologize, and no, Sarah won't tone down what she says.
This is why when I see on the anti-Palin blogs such near-universal feeling that this HAS to be what finally reins Sarah Palin in, I just can't go along with it.
As long as Sarah Palin has followers who will excuse or deny anything, and journalists continue to be lazy and naive, there's a good chance that Sarah will get a free ride and continue her grifter ways.
Worth watching: Dylan Ratigan show segment with Dave Weigel and Jane Hamsher. Hamsher has the strongest taken-down of Sarah's 'blood libel' comment that I've heard. They ripped her to shreds.
ReplyDeleteThe most amazing thing about this is that Sarah, et al., had three days to prepare a statement - and this was the best she & her handlers could do.
ReplyDeleteSarah's buddy the blubbering Beckster.....
ReplyDeleteGlenn Beck, before the Tucson massacre
Radio host Glenn Beck "thinking about killing Michael Moore"
May 18, 2005 6:04 pm ET
"Hang on, let me just tell you what I'm thinking. I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore,
and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it.
No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be
choking the life out -- is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus -- band -- Do,
and I've lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, "Yeah, I'd kill Michael
Moore," and then I'd see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I'd realize,
"Oh, you wouldn't kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death."
And you know, well, I'm not sure.”
-- Glenn Beck, before the Tucson massacre, http://mediamatters.org/research/200505180008
...and if someone murdered Michael Moore, Beck would say, "Who me?????
How in the world can you say I'm partly responsible for that?"
"Sarah, as you know, peace is the answer...
Glenn Beck, after the Tucson massacre,
http://www.gop12.com/2011/01/beck-attempt-on-palins-life-could-bring.html
Beck: An attempt on Palin's life "could bring the republic down" WHAT REPUBLIC???
This statement is perfect: Sorry forgot the source:
ReplyDeleteWe are deeply disturbed by Fox News commentator Sarah Palin's decision to characterize as a "blood libel" the criticism directed at her following the terrorist attack in Tucson. The term "blood libel" is not a synonym for "false accusation." It refers to a specific falsehood perpetuated by Christians about Jews for centuries, a falsehood that motivated a good deal of anti-Jewish violence and discrimination. Unless someone has been accusing Ms. Palin of killing Christian babies and making matzoh from their blood, her use of the term is totally out-of-line.
In the past two months, Ms. Palin and Glenn Beck, the most well-known media personalities on Fox News, have abused two of the most tragic episode in the history of the Jewish people: the Holocaust and the blood libel. In addition, Roger Ailes, the head of the Fox News channel, referred to the executives at NPR as "Nazis." Perhaps the popular news channel has such an ingrained victim mentality that it identifies with one of the most persecuted minorities in human history. But the Jewish community does not appreciate their identification, which only serves to denigrate the very real pain so many Jews have suffered because of anti-Semitic violence. It is clear that Fox News has a Jewish problem.
Sarah Palin did not shoot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Only the perpetrator can be found guilty for this act of terrorism. But it is worth pointing out that it was Rep. Giffords herself who first objected to Ms. Palin's map showing her district in the crosshairs. "We're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, but the thing is, the way she has it depicted, it has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district. When people do that they have to realize that there are consequences to that action." According to Ms. Palin's logic, Rep. Giffords statement was a blood libel against the Fox News host. The fact that Rep. Giffords is Jewish and Ms. Palin is Christian makes the accusation even more grotesque.
Ms. Palin clearly took some time to reflect before putting out her statement today. Despite that time, her primary conclusion was that she is the victim and Rep. Giffords is the perpetrator. As a powerful rhetorical advocate for personal responsibility, Ms. Palin has failed to live up to her own standards with this statement.
What would Sarah say if photos of her turned up with crosshairs on it?
ReplyDeleteIf you were like me who was horrified the first time we were exposed to Sarah Palin, one must realize that Sarah will do ANYTHING to attain her goals. She will stop at NOTHING. She is in her endgame.
ReplyDeleteA wounded animal is considered most dangerous.
Gryphen
ReplyDeleteCheck out Simon Greer's comments over at the Atlantic
Best thing I have read so far.......
Sarah's prior usage of the term 'blood libel': "Todd, is that moose blood liable to stain our shag carpeting?"
ReplyDeleteI need to ask people who post on this site...I just had my profile removed from Huffington Post after commenting there for over two years. I had 58 fans as of yesterday. My posts these last few days about Sarah Palin have been angry, but not threatening, profane, or factually untrue. I'm officially not allowed to even log on any more. Has this happened to any of you? I know their community moderators can remove comments, not sure about profiles altogether. I did make some links to this site, which I know is one of her least favorites. Her minions have infiltrated HoffPo in a BIG way and people have been complaining for months.
ReplyDeleteRead somewhere (here?) that Ms. Palin was planning to go on her Grand Tour to visit former PM Thatcher and visit Israel. So ..... ya think she's still got an invite, to either destination?
ReplyDelete"While the term "blood-libel" has become part of the English parlance to refer to someone being falsely accused..."
ReplyDeleteI had never heard the term before, and if Sarah did not want to be inflammatory, again, why not say "falsely accused?"
It is amusing that she holds the media culpable for their words that seem to hold her responsible for her inflammatory hate and violence speech but she does not hold her self responsible for her words.
In watching to a partial clip and later hearing the entire speech, I found it surreal on several levels not the least of which is her trying to be professorial to the press, when she scorns Obama for being professorial.
Of course her disconnect with how the rest of the country is reacting to the violence, assassination, and murders is what is really surreal.
If she wasn't toast before, I think this tasteless totally ego centered comment should just about do it.
Regardless of the cause how can she not share the rest of American's anger, hurt,fear, sorrow and concern?
All Sarah cares about is Sarah and her victimization. She was widely criticized because of her lack of sorrow and the martyr act in her first statement, so she corrects that perception by doubling down with a lack or sorrow and tries to be a Jewish martyr, or something?
Freaking bizarre, Sarah.
Perhaps one should ask sarah palin in an interview what did she mean by don't retreat, reload?
ReplyDeleteWhy dose she use violent language like stab you in the heart?
Why didn't sharon angle state that second amendment remedies are WRONG.
Why did she use the words 'we have to take Harry Reid out".
These are violent and specific words.
If they did not mean them, why not say it?
Why blame others when you said these words and people got hurt and killed.
And when the republican leadership supports these people and these words, does that also mean that they support the actions of the people who vandalize and kill?
If you think that is a harsh statement, then ask why have then not repudiated palin , angle, beck and limbugh?
Because they don't care or are they afraid of these people?
Leaders are suppose to protect, support the people that elected them. Right now, I don't feel the love from any republican leader.
Political Carnival has a link to an Arizona blog or paper.
ReplyDeleteOne of the Republican regional chairs is resigning because his life as been threatened by the tea baggers.
Howling funny, except it is not funny at all.
A friend who was a PUMA said this today:
ReplyDeleteI've run out of excuses for Sarah Palin. "Blood libel" indeed. It's time to turn a member of her family into a box of matzos and teach her the correct usage of the term.
Two years ago, $arah recognized a small smoldering group of haters that she quickly fanned the flames of. She fueled that smoldering group with hate and lies until they reached that burning inferno that they are today. NOW she is trying to douse that fire by blowing on it with her hot air, and claiming that it's the journalists who brought the fuel. Too late $arah. We know that YOU brought the matches. You are "Blood Guilty". Try looking that up in that Bible that you obviously don't read.
ReplyDeleteBeck: An attempt on Palin's life "could bring the republic down"
ReplyDeleteGive me a fucking break, Beckerhead.
It took Sarah so long to respond because someone had to build a replica of her fireplace on a soundstage in Arizona. Alaska is too cold for someone as cold-blooded as she is.
ReplyDeleteNevertheless, that "blood libel" thing is workin' out just fine for her bots.
dmoreno56 at 12:50
ReplyDeleteYou could not remember the reference that your post quoted, so here it is:
http://mgx.com/blogs/tag/simon-greer/
I agree this was an excellent (and concise) critique of Sarah's rather pathetic rant... - Rob
Anonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteCan anyone explain to me why Loughner was not exercising his 2 amendment right to do something about a government he believed to have become tyrannical? 12:42 PM
Great point. Too funny.
Since she is apparently anti-Semitic, and
ReplyDeleteanti-Muslim, and Mansour is her lap dog,
anyone think maybe the Lebanese(?) Mansour
is self-hating?
* GOPers Steer Clear of Palin's "Blood Libel" Comments *
ReplyDeletehttp://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/01/palin-blood-libel-republicans-response
herk
"we are sure that she will choose to retract her comment, apologize and make a less inflammatory choice of words"
ReplyDelete----
In a never ending cycle, Palin would retract with an offensive comment, that would need a retraction... and so on.
Unless Palin can hire herself a staff of researchers AND allow them to muzzle her, she's going to just keep blundering.
You can't fix STUPID. Palin's sociopathy isn't going to get her through even Iowa.
Since Sarah likes to pretend she is Israel's best friend, one has to assume that her strategy here was to find common cause with Jewish people and lump her current circumstances in with the unfair branding of Jews throughout history ('see what a victim I am--just like you guys'). She and her handlers thought they were being clever, when actually they were just being insensitive, particularly given Rep. Giffords heritage. On the other hand, she probably just increased her favorables among anti-semite's.
ReplyDeleteIt's a classic illustration of what can go wrong when you pretend to support something (Israel and Jewish culture) that you truly know nothing about.
She is just not going to stop running her mouth until she completely destroys herself, is she? Fine by me.
ReplyDeleteWho are her advisers, kindergartners? She sounds like a toddler having a temper tantrum. Here's a word of advice Scarah, you POS: if you want to be president you should at least try to sound like a grown-up. But really, it's too late so never mind.
Anonymous 12:42 says "Can anyone explain to me why Loughner was not exercising his 2 amendment right to do something about a government he believed to have become tyrannical?"
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you ask the parents of Christina Taylor Green?
Oh poor Sarah just pooped on jornalists and media, and now they are shredding her into small pieces, quoting every statemnt she, Rush, Glenn and Michelle Bachmann has said in their rhetoric campaign.
ReplyDeleteOMG
Play with real jornalism they will finish you Sarah and your fellow haters, Glenn, Rush and Michell.. starting from CNN to MSNBC. They are not sparing anyone ditto head.
Sarah and your fellow idiots , You are finished.
Wow... See Palin, media and Jornalists plus the many smart asses in lower 48 will teach you a good lesson. Thou shall not poop in the pot that feeds you.
You just did that Palin and your Beck, plus your Limbaugh.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteto 12:26 PM:
Was the 2nd picture actually from SarahPac website? or was it in response to the shooting?
12:41 PM
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That's in response to the shooting, maybe like Picasso's Guernica:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernica_%28painting%29
Sarah could of just said, "I hereby declare my political career to be over." Would have taken a lot less time.
ReplyDeleteNo one needs to point anything out to Palin. The bitch knew exactly what she was saying but this way she gets to play victim again.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone else notice that McCain - AZ Senator McCain has yet to say a damn word about this shooting. That's slithering very low. I bet he's afraid someone will ask about his running mates contributions to the shootings.
Sarah, you fill our hearts with disgust. I really don't understand your political strategy - further alienate the voters from you? How does that help your cause?
ReplyDeleteThe only possible reason for your polished divisiveness is simply to keep yourself in the news to get more MONEY. Happy the shooting occurred? Making lemonade out of lemons? Greedy hatemonger.
When we voters unsurprisingly don't vote for you, Sarah, what's your next step? Will you accept God's will then or just think He's wrong again and just direct your torment in another direction?
Have to admit Nicole Wallace(?) had it right - the one who will bring down SP is SP herself. Another Open Mouth & Insert Foot moment for the QuitterQueen
ReplyDeleteI know it is terrible we continue to pick on poor, uneducated, defenseless former Gov. She just makes it soooo damn easy!
Slate had an article which pointed out she did not mind blaming all Muslims for 9 11 over the community center in my. And as far ad that goes when will palin take responsibility for her own actions.
ReplyDeleteCalling it 'Blood Libel' just opens Sarah Palin to a whole new realm of well-earned criticism
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin is under intense criticism for using the term 'blood libel' to defend herself after she was severely criticized after the Giffords shooting. I expected nothing more from her than to make the tragedy all about her, but I didn't expect it to be so callous. David Brooks did his best to write a column that is completely pointless after the tragedy and Andrew Sullivan took him to the woodshed over it. A major problem for Palin is that she took a serious amount of heat by many people including Gabby Giffords when she released the Target Map back in March. it's not like the left decided to dredge it up when it had been previously ignored. Even the View's own conservative Elizabeth Hasslebeck was fuming about.
Elisabeth Hasselbeck calls Sarah Palin's "Target Map" Despicable
It would have been negligent of everybody to dismiss Palin's target map ad after the Arizona shooting and what defines people at critical times is how they respond.
Arizona is a hotbed of right-wing unrest and has been for a long time. Guns are being flaunted openly at political rallies and Palin singled out Giffords in the Target Map ad.
Are we blaming Palin for the shooting? No. We're making it very clear that words do matter and to think Palin has no connection to the unseemly level of discourse is simply naive. Playing the victim is what conservative pundits and politicians do best, and Palin fits in perfectly with their embrace of victimhood and backlash politics. Wake up.
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/blood-libel-phrase-palin-opens-more-cri
This was a comment on Palins facebook. You should put this on your blog gryphen... its a powerful statement
ReplyDeleteI don't think you get to say" blood libel" after you accused a Jewish Congresswoman of wanting to put your Christian child in front of a "death panel."
Palin disables comments on her video about open discourse
ReplyDeleteNote that Palin released her 'heartfelt' video at exactly 4:00AM Alaska time...just the right moment to take the news cycle by storm, and make today be about her. Also too, and perhaps more telling, Palin didn't even have the courage to take questions from Fox about her message. Instead, she hid behind a TelePrompter, secure in the knowledge that she would not have to respond to a single question about her speech. Now that's political courage, eh?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/12/935822/-Palin-disables-comments-on-her-video-about-open-discourse
Has any one else noticed how Sarah "Crosshairs" Palin is like bin Laden? Messages that are supposedly his are released every now & again, but when was he last seen in the flesh?
ReplyDeleteWe have tweets & Facebook messages, but when was the last time she was seen in the flesh?
I find it hilariously funny when Palin's defenders say that this poor little woman is the object of such "hate." Yet, they refuse to acknowledge that she incites hate herself. No one has to do one thing to Palin, because she is her own worst enemy. Every attempt to salvage her dreadful image results in her hammering yet another nail in the coffin of her political aspirations. I wonder who's left for her to piss off, unless it's one of her followers.
ReplyDeleteSarah and the other folks at Fox are the victims in this terrible tragedy. Yes, all Sarah did was post a map with cross hairs targeting 20 congressional races, including the race of the victim, Rep.Giffords. Giffords herself felt that the cross hairs represented a target, and Palin called them bulls' eye icons. So, at the same time as the Arizona shooting, people called for the end of violently charged language. Even Roger Ailes told his people at Fox to tone it down. So, when Sarah's language, "Don't retreat, reload" and her map came under political scrutiny, poor Sarah played the victim card again. However, it was no blood libel.
ReplyDeleteIn Sarah's well manicured speech, she said that people who disagreed with her were trying to rob her of her first amendment rights. Even Giffords said that actions have consequences. Palin said that actions have consequences when it came to the kid who read her private (Alaska government) emails. So, when Sarah used violent language, it has consequences, too. However, Sarah Palin does not believe that rule actions having consequences applies to her.
Palin Wins Again
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/12/935812/-Palin-Wins-Again
Palin's "Blood"-y Gaffe Sets Up Obama Perfectly.
ReplyDeleteToday, at a time when the nation should be coming together, she basically just threw a big bloody piece of red meat in-between the two parties and said "Go at it!"
This nation will be focused on Arizona tonight, sending love, thoughts and prayers to the wounded, the community and the state. At this point, the post-trauma of the horrific event and the heated discussions have turned our country into one big raw nerve. Her message this morning did nothing but exacerbate the situation.
Regardless of how he is discussed online, in real life President Obama does have the respect and admiration of people both liberal and conservative. Obviously not all, but many. He's also shown us -- from his 2008 speech on race, among others -- that he has the capacity to bring a healing balm and some optimism about a path forward.
Sarah Palin may have just done President Obama a favor. By again failing to rise to the occassion, by again failing to show grace under pressure, she has set up the most amazing contrast today between their characters.
Just in case you need a reminder of that contrast:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/12/935805/-Palins-Blood-y-Gaffe-Sets-Up-Obama-Perfectly.UPDATE:-Repubs-Agree-Not-Presidential
"Sarah Palin will never be President"
This is the title of an excellent piece written by Joan Walsh today. Excerpts:
"...I know one thing, having watched her atrocious, tone-deaf, all-about-me video: Sarah Palin will never be president of the United States.
The narcissism required, on a day the nation is commemorating the Arizona shooting victims, to put her own sense of victimhood front and center, is stunning..."
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/12/935820/-Sarah-Palin-will-never-be-President
Looks to me lthat RAM is a liberal operative. Nice move, RAM
ReplyDeleteGasoline plus match does not = fire, right Sarah? I don't suppose then that you will mind if I show up at your book signing wearing the t-shirt that I ordered off the internet from printfection.com. It has a picture of your face on it with a "surveyor's symbol" over it. The caption reads "CALM DOWN! It's just a surveyor's mark!". Oh, it's described as "Absolutely 100% not Crosshairs American Apparel T-Shirt". Can't wait to wear mine!
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin will never be president
ReplyDeleteTuesday's speech isn't really surprising, but it did make it plain to me: Palin can't be president. She's a divider, not a uniter, and she can't even pretend to be anything else. Americans won't forget that while Giffords and other shooting victims were still hospitalized, Palin was tending to her own psychic wounds. So very petty, so hugely unpresidential.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2011/01/12/sarah_palin_president/
" I'm also getting sick of hearing pundits claim that Loughner was not "political". "
ReplyDeleteThey are almost as disgusting as SARAHPAC when they join in with that bull.
Stalking a Congresswoman is not political? All the other is not political?
No, it doesn't matter when or if Loughner saw the SARAHPAC map. He could have heard about the targets in another fashion, say by someone who was incited by the map. What a thrill it would have been to know he shares his target with others. It is the total atmosphere of inciting. You could say that Sarah Palin was hired to yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater and they found a way to make it legal. It is as if Sarah's job was to incite (yell "FIRE"), work up a Viagra crowd, the racist leaning, NRA nuts and extreme militia types. It was all very conscience what they were all doing. They were at best reckless, they are not as clueless as they put on. If the FEC doesn't have a problem with the violent visual and verbal political targeting there is no problem for SARAHPAC as far as they are concerned. Sarah is still in the mix of inciting whether it is the things documented during the RNC run for office or her name and responsibilities with SARAHPAC.
She tossed a brick in the ocean and it rippled out until Loughner got her message.
It is established that Palin and Loughner did share the same target.
To Anonymous at 12:58 PM @Huff Post. I have been noticing a more conservative "lean" towards them recently myself. It doesn't surprise me that any comment that was too liberal/too left/too anti-Palin was removed actually. I would have been very surprised a few months ago.
ReplyDeleteAbout this post...the funny thing about this whole "blood libel" uttering is I would take bets that Sarah didn't even know what it meant at the time...I don't think she's smart enough for that...I can hear her saying "Oh shit" in my head right now....
1. SME131 - as much as I can't stand John McCain, he did come out with a surprisingly strong statement about the shootings shortly afterwards.
ReplyDelete2. I am fairly well educated and have been around awhile, but before today I've never head the phrase "blood libel". Maybe it's something they toss around those dominionist churches.
I had to remind myself Palin is a narcissist therfore did not cosider anyone else: not Jews, not Congresswoman Gifford's religion nor that the murdered child, Christina, is a christian, nor the blood that was shed. It's all about Palin. Palin exemplifies smoke and mirrors.
ReplyDeleteThe majority of us expected Palin to address her political asssassination imagery map. Palin's intent was to reinforce she is the victim of persescution to attack and destroy her since she arrived at the RNC.
Whoaa......Just saw the picture of Brisket ..... Cottage cheese and spandex ...... Somebody's been chewing whale blubber again.
ReplyDeleteSo, Sarah Palin has raised her victimhood to biblical proportion. Sane people realize how disgusting that is given the real victims of this tragedy.
ReplyDeleteShe is shameless and vile.
Palin Fails the Test
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin's response to the Tucson shooting is defensive, illogical, distracting—and late.
http://www.slate.com/id/2280967/
" Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteA friend who was a PUMA said this today:
I've run out of excuses for Sarah Palin. "Blood libel" indeed. It's time to turn a member of her family into a box of matzos and teach her the correct usage of the term.
1:04 PM"
You can't kill her Retarded Trig, or her
Combat Veteran Track. You can have the
whorey girls, even Piper lets old men
peep in her bedroom window!
Pure projection: "intolerent of different opinions" "shrill cry if imagined insults" give me a break, Palin, that is all about you.
ReplyDeleteSarah didn't come up with this, Mansour did. Sarah just read it. Toad's whipping RAM as we speak.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.credoaction.com/campaign/palin_violence/index2.html?rc=homepage
ReplyDeleteIf you are interested Credo has a petition up to ask Sarah to renounce her violent rhetoric. They have over 240K signers already.
Not that she will but it keeps the drum beat going.
The “blood libel” term was tossed around a lot on the C4P site prior to Palin’s video, so you know where that came from. After that and the ludicrous “surveyor marks” defense, Mansour should get sacked.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile in Tucson people are lined up for two miles to hear the President speak.
UPDATED PROGRAM:
Fanfare for the Common Man
Native American blessing – Carlos Gonzales
National Anthem
University of Arizona President Robert N. Shelton
Student Body President Emily Fritze and Daniel Hernandez Jr.
Arizona Governor Jan Brewer
Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder
President Barack Obama
Moment of Silence
Simple Gifts
Poem of Hope – To The New Year
Closing – University of Arizona Robert N. Shelton
Sarah’s handlers’ amateurish attempt at preempting the President has failed even before he utters his first word.
And here's another article on the inappropriate use of the term "Blood Libel":
ReplyDeletehttp://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CONGRESSWOMAN_SHOT_BLOOD_LIBEL?SITE=MIDTN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
A comment posted elsewhere:
ReplyDeleteIs that a Teleprompter reflected in her glasses? Why didn’t she just write “blood libel” on her hand?
Comment @ 12:58 p.m.
ReplyDeleteRe: Huffington Post - I usually read and comment daily there but have almost quit commenting altogether there. I also would link back to here to Gryphen and it was okay for a while. But within the last 2-3 months every time that I link back to here the post is scrubbed and never sees the light of day.
Those times that I tried to link back here, well not only was it scrubbed but they took off numbers of my fans and I had over1400 fans there.
The comments on HP are severely moderated and lately you will see a backlog of 3 - 4,0000 comments pending. The place has gone to the dogs and I think Arianna H. does not like President Obama. I think she has changed back to a republican.
I also believe Palin has paid hacks working there as moderators.
And just HOW many times in the past 2+ years have Palin and her minions had to explain that what she said wasn't really what she MEANT and people just misunderstood her.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that should be a sign that she should STOP TALKING!
"J" Street? Really?
ReplyDeleteOne of your labels should be dumbass (referring to Palin's epic fail)
If you don't have access to television, watch the livestream of Tucson Memorial here.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.blippitt.com/watch-tucson-arizona-memorial-service-live-streaming-online-video
Anon@ 1:13 - re: RAM- there are plenty of Lebanese Christians, so I would not assume that she is a Muslim.
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin is a mentally unbalanced fraud. She has lost a great deal of support in the Republican party. Her book sales (for the second ghost written pile of nonsense) are down. Her TV series was not renewed. These last two points suggest to me that she is losing support and interest even amongst her "base." She is partially a media creation and THAT'S WHO IS KEEPING HER ALIVE NOW. The moribund MSM needs her as a shiny object and instigator of controversy. So what is the appropriate way to respond to this?
Palin is now officially the face of antisemitism.
ReplyDeletehttp://i.huffpost.com/gen/236867/BLOOD-LIBEL-FULL-SIZE.jpg
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/12/blood-libel-wiki-palin_n_808257.html
So true, 1:40PM. Sarah channels bin Laden with the way her messages are issued. Scary
ReplyDeleteShe has come out with this message presented in this form today - the day of the memorial - because she assumes has been anointed leader of a "group."
ReplyDeleteThis is the woman that has been advocating revolution for a while now.
Palin’s choice of words continues to offend many Americans, as does her inability to accept responsibility for her actions, her constant (ab)use of America’s icons and history. Perhaps worst of all, Palin chose to release this video on the same day a national memorial will take place in Tucson tonight. Does Palin have any ability to give up the spotlight for more than a few days?
ReplyDeleteMany this week were saying how concerning it was that Palin had been absent from the national conversation the past few days, considering a great many in this country hold her partially responsible for adding to the climate of hate and division that led to Saturday’s massacre. This is her response: invoking God, Reagan, and Republican rhetoric to dismiss her responsibility.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/blood-libel-sarah-palins-tone-deaf-response-to-tucson-shooting-video-and-analysis/politics/2011/01/12/16698
A brand new Sarah Poster for your enjoyment!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/eddieicon/5349724957/sizes/l/in/photostream/
We hoped that Sarah Palin might take responsibility - instead, she's doubled down, making herself out to be the victim of "blood libel" in reference to the attempted assasination of a Jewish congresswoman. Oy vey. Please SIGN our letter to Palin - it's time for the inflammatory rhetoric to end.
ReplyDeleteFormer Governor Palin:
After the tragedy in Arizona on Saturday, you responded by immediately removing several dangerous pieces of violent rhetoric and imagery from your web presence, including a map of Rep. Giffords’ district with a gun’s crosshairs on it paired with instructions to “not retreat – reload!”
Ms. Palin, we are asking you to not just hide your former violent rhetoric and hope we don’t notice, but to do the right thing: formally apologize for it, and work to create a new foundation upon which we can build a political dialogue based on respect and facts, not fear and hatred.
http://saysorrysarah.com/
Rabbi: By 'blood libel' claim Palin admits 'words can be deadly'
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's now a perverse form of 'victim chic' to try to corner your own teardrop of sympathy in every moment of headliner public mourning, I wonder.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/01/sarah-palin-blood-libel-jews-giffords-killing/1
FLASHBACK Tweet: Sarah Palin chides Helen Thomas for “misunderstanding of Jewish history”
ReplyDeletehttp://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/01/12/flashback-tweet-sarah-palin-chides-helen-thomas-for-misunderstanding-of-jewish-history/
Like someone once said, it’s like a trained dog. Not natural, but you can’t look away. Wow.
ReplyDeletehttp://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/01/12/video-sarah-palin-%E2%80%9Camerica%E2%80%99s-enduring-strength%E2%80%9D/
" Anonymous said...
ReplyDeletePalin is now officially the face of antisemitism.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/236867/BLOOD-LIBEL-FULL-SIZE.jpg
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/12/blood-libel-wiki-palin_n_808257.html
2:40 PM"
Ha! And with a quick Google search:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Antisemitism#hl=en&q=Anti+Semitism&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn&fp=5e05e53c8dca3128
Damn, FOX published this?
ReplyDeletePalin's words reach back to sordid history
When Sarah Palin accused journalists and pundits of "blood libel" in the wake of the deadly Arizona shootings, she reached deep into one of medieval history's most sordid chapters to make her point.
The term "blood libel" is not well known, but it is highly charged — a direct reference to a time when many European Christians blamed Jews for kidnapping and murdering Christian children to obtain their blood. Jews were tortured and executed for crimes they did not commit, emblematic of anti-Semitism so virulent that some scholars recoiled Wednesday at Palin's use of the term.
In a video posted to her Facebook page early Wednesday, the 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate accused the U.S. media of inciting hatred and violence after the shooting that gravely wounded U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Palin has been criticized for marking Giffords' district with the cross hairs of a gun sight during last fall's campaign.
"But, especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible," she said.
But some experts on the history of blood libel took exception to Palin's use of the term.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/12/palins-words-reach-sordid-history/
Palin's is the face of mental illness.
ReplyDeleteI'm stunned. Could anyone be more clueless than Sarah P? I mean really. I read her statement first thing this morning and my jaw hit my keyboard. One of the things that jumped out was "Blood Libel" - it had to be code to her base. But then over the course of the day I became convinced that someone didn't do their research and stepped in a huge pile of poo. I laughed at that thought. I also like the thought that one of her writers set her up, big time, much like the producers of SPA because Sarah is very gullible - we know that. In any case she had an opportunity to say something good and she blew it, just as expected - and relished. She is her own worst enemy. Ignorance Sarah is not bliss, especially for you. I'm stunned but I shouldn't be. This is an incredibly ignorant and self-centered person.
ReplyDeleteWow, look at the disparity between the GOP insiders and the Dem insiders as far as appropriateness of the crosshairs graphic used by Sarah:
ReplyDeleteOverall, 44 percent of the 124 Political Insiders who participated in the poll—62 from each party—said that the Palin graphic was inappropriate.
However, the Insiders were sharply divided along party lines: 68 percent of the Democratic Insiders said that Palin’s graphic had crossed the line, but only 19 percent of the GOP Insiders thought it did.
http://nationaljournal.com/member/could-political-speech-go-to-far--20110112
With all the media discussion of Jared Lee Loughner's mental health, I am very surprised that this same media is not addressing Palin's mental health.
ReplyDeleteI am not being facetious here, but very serious.
If you look at the history of her actions and statements (Wild Ride story, Troopergate, Cross-Hairs map and now her video response to the Tuscon Tragedy), you cannot help but wonder at the mental instability of Palin.
Her lack of mental soundness is no laughing matter.
Sarah Palin Facebook scrubbing in realtime
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG5Rd8k3bio&feature=player_embedded
Has anyone seen Todd - if you do tell him it's okay to come out of the closet now. We won't put surveyor's marks on his azz.
ReplyDeletePalin's bots were putting Sheriff Dupnick's phone number on FB last night & telling people to call & complain. They are rabid.
ReplyDeleteShe's screwed - Oh, is Palin screwed.
ReplyDeleteI think I just heard the second bus tire roll over RAM.
Great TIME article: The Chutzpah of Palin
Sarcasm aside, it really is hard to fathom why Palin felt the need to record and release this message right now. For God's sake, most of the funerals for the victims in Tucson haven't even taken place yet. Is this really the right time for an unapologetic defense of violent rhetoric? Why not hold off on the lashing out at her critics and casting herself as a victim for just a few more days?
I think there are two main explanations. One is that Palin simply can't help it. You know that friend of yours for whom everything is always about them? Your dad is in the hospital and your cat just died and you lost your job, and yet she blows up at you because you forgot her birthday? Palin is that friend.
The second explanation for the timing of this video is that Palin and her advisers obviously understand that her career is on the line--whether that involves running for president or simply being a popular conservative figure who commands high speaking fees and tv contracts. Even if no one drew a connection between Palin's target map or rhetoric and Jared Loughner's violent actions, she would have to tone down her schtick, at least in the name of good taste.
The problem for Palin is that this is her brand. She's Shoot-'Em-Up Sarah. That's what her fans love about her. She got them fired up on the campaign trail in 2008 by not just being willing to play the role of attack dog, but by so obviously relishing it. What does a de-fanged Palin sound like politically? I suspect even she doesn't know.
That's why what we heard today was a somewhat desperate attempt to make the case that extreme political rhetoric can be healthy and appropriate, that it has a valid, defensible place in our politics. You have to give her credit--it's hard to think of a worse time to press that argument. But if she didn't make the case, she'd have to change her tune. And that's not an option for Palin.
Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/01/12/
the-chutzpah-of-palin/#ixzz1ArwhnH1M
"Especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding," Palin said in a video on her Facebook page, "journalists and pundi(n)ts should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible."
ReplyDeleteIn other words, "I hereby comdemn those who dare comdemn hatred and violence." Hahahaha!
As a Jew I find it telling that first she emphasizes the "Catholic Mass"(you can hear the snark in voice at the word Catholic) then goes on to use the term "Blood Libel".It was most often Catholics who manufactured the real "Blood Libel" and caused the torture and deaths of so many innocent men,women and children in history.Modern Catholics have no guilt for what happened so many years ago,in another age.What was Sarah trying to do here?Is this another "dog whistle" to her evangelical followers,calling them to rally against both Catholic and Jew? Or is she really this stupid and insensitive?
ReplyDeleteBlood libel (U.S. political term)
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel_%28U.S._political_term%29
"[i]On Tuesday, after a search of the Loughners' home, federal investigators found a letter from Rep. Giffords's office in which Mr. Loughner had scribbled the words "Die Cops" and "Die Bitch," said Capt. Chris Nanos of the Pima County Sheriff's Department. Capt. Nanos, who was briefed on the findings, said Mr. Loughner had also referenced an assassination in handwritten notes on the letter.[/i]"
ReplyDeleteAnd now we need to determine who gave him the idea of hating Giffords. Did he see a map with 'surveyor's marks' or 'gunsights' on it and Giffords name that led him to the violence? When the lawsuits are filed some enquiring minds may want to know some answers to those questions.
Sleep well tonight Sarah dearest!
Palin's 'blood libel' charge ignites US firestorm
ReplyDelete"Palin's invocation of a 'blood libel' charge against her perceived enemies is hardly a step in the right direction," Harris said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1250983120110112
So comes the answer to the original question, how did Sarah Palin become the center of attention after the Arizona tragedy? She put herself there. The spotlight is all your's Ms. Palin and you earned it. Now, will you be able to talk your way out of the corner you have backed yourself into or will you stumble through it like a beauty queen caught off guard with a question they haven't rehearsed.
ReplyDeletehttp://open.salon.com/blog/ocularnervosa/2011/01/11/ms_palin_your_spotlight_is_ready
The video addressed to Sarah Palin from the CEO of Media Matters is POWERFUL. The ending is perfect and describes the situation perfectly.
ReplyDeleteThe Bullseye Bimbo Claims “Blood Libel"
ReplyDeleteIt took four days for Sarah Palin’s handlers to teach Palin the speech she gave in response to the criticism she has rightfully received over her own violent speech and her targeting Gabriel Giffords with gun sight crosshairs. While responsible people on the left are not saying that Jared Loughner is one of her followers, or anything other that a very sick mind, we have said that Palin and others of her ilk contributed to a culture of violence, specifically gun violence, that may have contributed to this tragedy and has already resulted in other deaths. Not only has Palin denied accountability for her part in that culture, but also, has accused us of manufacturing a “blood libel”. According to Wikipedia, a blood libel is the false claim that religious minorities, most commonly Jews, murder children to use their blood in religious ritual. That false claim was then used as an excuse for European persecution of Jews and violence against them. In short, Palin is accusing us of using a vile false claim to make her a target for violence.
http://www.politicsplus.org/blog/?p=3845
Palin's video was taken down and then re-released to be viewed with a password. It went private! Interesting - she can't take the heat at all.
ReplyDeleteBut like the proverbial narcissist, she can'e let go or retreat. She just reloads!
Has anyone heard anything from McShame?
ReplyDeleteIf he had the balls, which we know he doesn't, as he he should do a public dressing down of Paliban, as it was him that inflicted this blood spewing bitch on America.
Just heard report McShame is with President Obama at the hospital speaking with the survivors and their families. He should be ashamed of himself by being there
"What would Sarah say if photos of her turned up with crosshairs on it?"
ReplyDeleteAlaska WTF already has a picture up. They say it's surveyors symbols, because according to Sarah, that's what it is, right? The website is worth checking out because they have a graphic of sarah in the snow with a bleeding lady liberty replacing the Moose. Perfect image.
The ADL's Foxman went "blood libel" on Muslim New Yorkers, attacking their "Burlington Coat Factory" Community Center. Maybe he should just STFU.
ReplyDeleteA Message To Sarah Palin from Media Matters CEO David Brock
ReplyDeletePromoting anti-government extremism is your business. Without it you are nothing. And you know it.
Instead of posting videos in the dark of night, I challenge you to have the peaceful debate you say you want -- with me -- at the time and place and in the venue of your choosing.
Governor Palin, at this time of national mourning, you owe the American people a more honest explanation of your words and actions than the one you issued today.
Maybe then you could stop dwelling over your own PR troubles and join me in trying to prevent such a tragedy like this from ever happening again.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201101120039
You know, if anyone said "lock and load" on Sara Palin, or SarahPAC, or Wasilla, they'd be accused by palinbots of a federal crime of some sort. But Sarah, and Beck, and all the others can say it about Democrats and it's somehow ok. The lives of Democrats are worth nothing. They can talk about "fragging" us, about killing Michael Moore. And it's all somehow ok. Well, now there are dead bodies and maybe it won't be ok anymore.
ReplyDeleteIt's also worth noting that on another website I read that the victim's republican opponent held an event where his supporters, (people like the shooter), could fire M16's to celebrate hitting their "target"- whatever that means. Tell me that THAT is not inciting violence. Why are these people not all in jail?????
For someone who is trying, with more and more difficulty, to portray herself as just a good ol' hockey mom, one of "us," it seems like making dog-whistle, fringe-y, secret-location, Bin-Laden-style video drops might not be the smartest move.
ReplyDeleteIt strikes me that all the answers to Sarah's troubles are in the bible:
ReplyDeleteTURN THE OTHER CHEEK SARAH! NOW'S THE TIME! FOR GOD'S SAKE, JUST THIS ONCE, TAKE JESUS' ADVICE AND TURN THE OTHER FUCKING CHEEK ALREADY!!!!
Then again maybe she's never actually read the bible.
I wonder if she will still try to visit Israel after this debacle.
ReplyDeleteAlso, too, WHO will pay for her well-known and demanded security - she is NO politician, and she is NO diplomat - SHE IS A PRIVATE CITIZEN!!! Somehow, I cannot imagine her paying for her own security...
“That was Gabby,” Jonathan Rothschild, a longtime friend who served on her campaign’s executive committee, recalled to JTA. “The real irony of this thing is her Judaism is central to her, but she is the kind of person who reaches out to everybody.”
ReplyDeleteGiffords’ father is Jewish and her mother is a Christian Scientist, and she was raised in both faiths. Her grandfather, Akiba Hornstein, changed his name to Giffords after moving from New York to Arizona, in part because he did not want his Jewishness to be an issue in unfamiliar territory.
The women on her father’s side of the family seemed to guide her toward identifying with Judaism.
“In my family, if you want to get something done you take it to the Jewish women relatives,” she told JTA in 2006. “Jewish women, by and large, know how to get things done.”
http://www.juf.org/news/world.aspx?id=67432
Sarah Palin is a faded porn chick in a horror film.
ReplyDeletePresident Obama landed in Tucson on Wednesday afternoon, and immediately headed to the hospital to see Representative Gabrielle Giffords and other people injured in the shooting on Saturday.
ReplyDelete“The president wanted to begin this solemn trip by stopping first at the hospital where Congresswoman Giffords and others continue to recuperate,” a White House official said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/12/obama-arizona-speech-pres_1_n_808315.html
This bears repeating and I wish I'd thought of it. It says it all: "Anonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteSarah's prior usage of the term 'blood libel': "Todd, is that moose blood liable to stain our shag carpeting?"
thats interesting because the jews who live around me in Brooklyn adore Sarah. It's quite bizarre to live in NY yet find random Sarah cults scattered throughout.
ReplyDeletebut what I really wanted to share was this:
http://escapetyranny.com/2011/01/10/class-act-father-of-9-year-old-victim-says-don%E2%80%99t-exploit-my-daughter%E2%80%99s-death-to-revoke-freedoms/
That man is amazing
The Tuscon victims and their families = MANY potential civil suits against sarah for inciting the Tuscon massacre.
ReplyDeleteI predict there WILL be suits filed against SP - there IS precedence (google the "Metzers").
I agree with those who speculate that Palin's idiotic speech today was drafted and/or approved by attorneys - she cannot apologize, as it might be used against her as an admission of guilt or complicity.
I wonder if Van Flein has told her about the potential civil liability? How will she ever squirm her way out of this mess?
She cannot. Too bad!
mommom
ReplyDeleteRebecca Mansour went to Catholic schools, she is from a very Catholic background. Sally Heath was Catholic and I think Sarah may have gone to a Catholic sunday school. I am sure she has some attitude about it. Chuck Heath, Sr. may have put his two cents in. My money is on Mansour as to who wrote and coached her about "Blood Libel." I don't know if Mansour is born again or what but anything is possible. Palin just did that routine about drawing a line in the sand. They do want to rumble.
wow, youll try anything to pit one group of people against another won't you. In no way can you continue to say Republicans are the only fearmongerers. Not when figures like Keith Olbermann and Kathy Griffin continue to bully and send out crass statements only proving they themselves are in need of deep spiritual therapy.
ReplyDelete"“Blood libel” does not refer exclusively to accusations against Jews. It does not refer only to medieval episodes that resulted in pogroms. It is a term that has been, and continues to be, legitimately used in contemporary American political discourse by all sides. Governor Palin’s use of the term is accurate, reasonable, and squarely within the bounds of accepted political discourse. It is her opponents’ attempts to falsely connect her to the Tucson massacre which is inaccurate, and unreasonable, and beyond the pale of civilized discourse."
Anon 12:58 I have been having difficulty too. Other post far more nasty, with language and mine don't seem to show up, I can still log in though. I have seen lots of complaints about the speed of the moderators. I can't imagine any SP supporters getting any work over there? I don't understand how it works, but ???????? BTW Thanks Rob for getting the reference for me and thanks to the poster for the laugh on the moose blood on the carpet--needed that!
ReplyDeleteGryphen: It seems that SP's odious comments were lifted from Glenn Reynold's piece in the Wall St Journal..."pundits", "blood libel", etc etc.
ReplyDeleteYOU KNOW, IF THE PRESIDENT HAD ANY CLASS AT ALL, HE'D ADDRESS THE STUPIDITY OF THE BLAME GAME IN TIMES LIKE THESE, AS WELL AS PLAYING POLITICS WITH WRONGFUL DEATHS.
ReplyDeleteSo who wrote this little (ha, if 8 minutes can be called little!) statement? And how much does he/she hate Sarah Palin's guts? Because we all know that she did not write it. She claims that the media is trying to "apportion blame"? As far as Sarah Palin knows, "apportion" is something that she likes to make EXTRA BIG, just to piss off Michelle Obama, aka the food police.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I think the GOP took this opportunity to finish her off. They either hired the author of this statement or they bribed the person on her "team" who wrote it to make it a deal breaker.
She may be stoopid but, gosh darn it, just looking at the photos Gryphen uses to illustrate his posts shows how stunningly beautiful she is! Name one other rapidly aging woman in the public eye who can pull off an adorable shar pei puppy impression with such canine grace as the Twitterful One?
ReplyDeleteListen, if the people covering this 'blood libel' faux pas, for lack of a better term, truly felt her use of the expression was a 'dog whistle' to unleash an anti-semitic movement on the part of her supporters - I PROMISE YOU THE OUTRAGE WOULD HAVE BEEN SWIFT AND FIERCE.
ReplyDeleteNo, people realize it was inappropriate to the moment because it was used to garner sympathy for herself as a persecuted person when so many are suffering grief and injury, but mostly people felt it was just completely disrespectful to the painful historical connotations for the Jewish people.
It was a major fuck-up, is what it was. Completely clueless.
There is a sustained kinship between Jews and Christians, the Judeo-Christian bond, and this sort of reaching out, inept as it was, is not surprising, coming from someone like her. It's particularly important to Evangelicals, though it could be argued that this is a cynical sort of relationship, theologically speaking. I think the woman and her handlers thought it was a good thing to throw in if she still intends to visit Israel. I think Sarah is not terribly well-educated when it comes to Christian theology anyway. She is superficially and culturally Christian, but that's about it.
Mostly I think they were parroting some other wingers who had already used the term - saying that she was basically scapegoated. Truly, truly, if folks thought she was rallying people with racist sentiments, well, I am quite sure we would have heard that today.
I completely agree that this was a demonstration of her pathology. She is a narcissist living in a bubble, and the idea that she thought today should be about her, with that unnecessary defense, just says it all.
She is done, and this proves it. You see, she needed the MSM in order to continue, and they are bailing on her, left and right. Never mind that she has a fringe following.
I'm not being snide here. Really, if you listen to what Sarah Palin is saying, it's that a free discussion of ideas should always be promoted, except for when those ideas are critical of her. That's really the only way you can honestly interpret it. Pathetic.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with everyone, as a historian. Palin speaks from a position of authority and her analogies and metaphors give license to those who do not care for the current status quo. Historian is fraught with example of this--church authorities preaching violence--with God's authority, and then vanishing as mobs assault innocent victims; Hitler, funnelling Germany's angst into hate and destruction, under the auspices of the Fatherland; and now Palin, preaching American exceptionalism but pointing the gun at people who dont fit into her narrow viewpoint.
ReplyDeleteYes, you can blame Palin and you should blame Palin. I cannot believe that she would attempt to align herself as a victim, at this point in time. She is sick. The wrong person was shot.
Anon @ 12:58, I feel your pain about Huffy Po. Their moderation is, apparently, handled by the most immature imbeciles ever assembled. I've had several very benign comments deleted the past few days - comments with no foul language and no personal insults. I can't understand it, especially when, in the space of only a few minutes, I can find several comments that really should have been deleted but were not.
ReplyDeleteThat's one of the reasons I like this site more. The Huffy Po is like being in Sarah Palin's America.
Anonymous 12:42 says "Can anyone explain to me why Loughner was not exercising his 2 amendment right to do something about a government he believed to have become tyrannical?"
ReplyDeleteOnly someone who doesn't know the meaning of tyrannical would even ask a question like this!
Get thee to the nearest library and checkout a world history book. In reading about the Roman and Greek empires, you'll discover just how you've been lied to by the conservatives.
When Jefferson mentioned tyranny in his writings he was referring to Great Britain and the abuses George III had heaped upon the American colonists.
We are not living under tyranny in America today.
Don't you know her whole family wishes she would just sit down and shut the eff up?
ReplyDeleteI bet they'd like to quietly enjoy those millions.
4:07, I agree, she is one damn pretty woman. How sad that she is so vile and ugly on the inside.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous@4:05 PM
ReplyDeleteKeep yapping. The president doesn't have to address anything. He didn't go around the country making speeches meant to make one group of Americans hate another group.
If you don't like the fallout from being associated with Palin, stop associating yourself with her.
Since Palin says she's not afraid of anyone/thing, let her handle her own mess and solve her own problems.
The president has tried to deal civilly with the republicans, but they were having none of it. He has called for civility in politics more than once.
Now that there is negative blow back and the heat is on you, you want a president that you and Palin hate and have disrespected since January 20, 2009 to take responsibility for helping you out of your predicament?
Ain't gonna happen.
8:30 pm EST-After hearing the two students speak Palin ought to consider taking her vimeo video down, put her tail between her legs and exit stage left.
ReplyDeleteAlthough the students are not in Palin's position of having put crosshiars on another public servant, these two young people "got it" and they have what Palin lacks including humility.
Sometimes when I think it could not get any worse, a day like this day comes.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone else feel threatened by this woman? She scares the hell out of me.
This is truly a low moment in history.
Well I guess Atilla the Grizzly can scratch that trip to the Jewish holy land.
ReplyDeleteYou gotta wonder how she is explaining all this to her kids, if she even is, but someone has to explain it to Piper. I cannot even imagine having that kind of task.
ReplyDeleteJohn Dingell Runs Through Litany Of Violent Rhetoric On House Floor (VIDEO)
ReplyDeleteBrian Beutler | January 12, 2011, 4:37PM
Rep. John Dingell (D-MI), the longest serving member of the House, went on the floor today and read out his list of inflammatory, violent political rhetoric from last year. (The blubbering Beckster has some really nasty ones)
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/john-dingell-runs-through-litany-of-violent-rhetoric-on-house-floor-video.php
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Obama visits wounded Congresswoman Giffords
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110113/ts_nm/us_usa_shooting_congresswoman
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THE BECKSTER HAD BETTER STAY OUT OF ARIZONA, HE MAY BE ARRESTED SINCE HE AND LAUGHNER LOOK ENOUGH LIKE TO BE MISTAKEN FOR TWINS.
Separated as twins? Jared Lee Laughner & Glenn Beck
One looks insane.
The other just murdered 6 people and wounded 14 others.
SEE PHOTOS HERE
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1320711/pg1
HHHHHHHhhhhhhmmmmmmmm.....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-obeidallah/the-palin-standard_b_808293.html
ReplyDeleteGood article
Gryphen, again you don't need to post this, but what an insightful article on the dangerous game of "victimhood" played by people like Sarah Palin:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.consortiumnews.com/2011/011011.html
I have to wonder......does $arah have a traitor in her inner circle? Was this carefully crafted by someone on the inside to stick it to the witch?
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous @ 12:58 PM
ReplyDeleteYes, this has happened to me. HP seems very protective of SP.
HP is also allowing more right-wing kabobs to post articles on that site. These people are also protected from any criticism. I believe that Palin's minions have infiltrated that site, both as employees and as posters. There have been many complaints but they fall on blind eyes. Don't visit much any more.
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To Anonymous @ 1:28 PM
"Sarah could of just said, "I hereby declare my political career to be over."
Today, I heard a guest on a progressive talk show saying that for the past few months Palin has been calling political people in D.C. asking what she needs to do to run for President. The guest did not name any of the recipients of these calls.
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To Anonymous @2:26 PM
Yes, that is a Teleprompter reflected in her glasses.
4:09
ReplyDeleteThats what I say.The average person posting words on a blog has little impact,even if they should be more civil.But public figures,especially those considered as leaders or potential leaders,even more especially those with a large voice in the media on a daily basis,have much more influence and should be more circumspect.
I can imagine Mrs Palin encouraging someone on a ledge to just jump.Then saying,it was only words,I didn't make him do it,while not acknowledging her culpability in the act.
More typical high school mean girl.
To Anonymous @ 2:26 PM
ReplyDeleteI have been saying for more that a year now that AH is reverting back to the days when she was working for Newt.
She, and a group of people that I call her posse, have been making the rounds of tv since a few months after Pres. Obama took office trash him. My take is that she never was an Obama supporter. Her choice was Mrs. Clinton.
This posse still can't get over the fact that Hillary Clinton is not the President. They are suffering from Obama Derangement Syndrome and are not interested in offering the President anything constructive. They are not interested in any progressive or liberal legislation from this administration. This not what they are after.
I firmly believe that their goal is to help republicans bring down President Obama to demonstrate in their minds that Hillary Clinton should have been elected instead. Just like the republicans and many in what passes for the media (not just Fox) they are ticked off that President Obama has accomplished something. They just can't bring themselves to talk about anything good the President has done and give him his due. I have no doubt that they too want him to fail.
Do you ever hear these people talking about how the republicans have been obstructing the Democrats and the President since BEFORE he took office?
FEDUP!!!
ReplyDeleteThere is NO chance she would pay her own security. The most of it would probably go to the people. You can bet that her people, like Franklin Graham, are talking to his people in Israel. If they are saying she is running for office and a potential leader of the free world that is how they would have to deal with this. There are plenty of right wingers that have bought into a Jewish-Christianist alliance.
@ Anonymous 4:22PM
ReplyDeleteI think when BC (4:07pm) says that the screechy wretch is a "beautiful woman" he's attempting to be sarcastic and what he's really trying to say is "her grotesque inner ugliness so thoroughly contaminates any positive characteristics she might have that she's become irredeemably ugly on the outside, as well", also, too.
Signed, BC
I don't post on HP, and I've decided to stop
ReplyDeletereading it. I don't want to read it & give the
site ad traffic revenues.
" Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI have to wonder......does $arah have a traitor in her inner circle? Was this carefully crafted by someone on the inside to stick it to the witch?
5:01 PM"
No--they just think her shit doesn't stink.
They've gotten used to the smell from
having their heads up her ass. She is, after all,
Saint Sarah Queen Esther, the Virgin Mother of
God's Retarded Son, Trig.
I don't think that Sarah was sober or straight enough let alone intelligent enough to even comprehend what the words that she read blindly off the teli-promter meant.
ReplyDeleteHer lack of affect suggests that she was completely out of it...perhaps she is clinically depressed and was off her meds, or she was on too many unprescribed meds....who knows but she lives in an other reality.
Anon @ 9:17 said, send her back to Alaska. HELL MAN, we don't want her either.
ReplyDelete@4:19 - when the civil suits start, she won't be enjoying "her millions." And Van Flea can't practice in AZ, so she'll have to get a new lawyer.
ReplyDeleteDissing the Republican Women of California (2009)? Check.
ReplyDeleteDissing the Jewish Community? Check.
Grisly $arah Palin with blood on her hands still believing she can be POTUS? Check.
This may have already been said, but I would not be in the least bit surprised if Sarah apologized, just this once, for the blood libel comment. She courts the Zionist vote, does she not?
ReplyDelete"The term 'blood libel' is not a synonym for 'false accusation,' " said Simon Greer, president of Jewish Funds for Justice.
ReplyDelete"Unless someone has been accusing Ms. Palin of killing Christian babies and making matzoh from their blood, her use of the term is totally out of line."
So now we know why Bristol and Willow are cranking out babies. Grisly $arah uses the blood for evil rites. This self-accusation of 'blood libel' is merely another Freudian slip.
Oh,Sarah-you wanted attention. And boy did you get it! Be careful what you wish for...and all that. At least you were able to rake in several million dollars before you totally screwed yourself, so you'll be able to pay for stuff (hair spray, bumpits, purses for Todd, rehab and bail for the older kids, tutors for poor 14yr. old Piper's fourth grade studies, muzzles for Chuckster, etc....) after everybody quits paying you for being stupid and loud. One more thing-it's pundits. Not pundints. Dummy.
ReplyDeleteSomeone mentioned Palin calling people in D.C. asking questions about running for President.
ReplyDeleteI cannot believe that the Republicans would be at all interested in her anymore. Vet her more by contacting Alaskans and let us share information about the woman. People in the lower 48 are FINALLY beginning to see what she really is and isn't!
Let me complete some of the picture...she showed herself to be racist in Alaska (and just did again today in her 7 minute video), she is a very poor leader, and actually really didn't lead - as we have since found out that Todd was actually doing the work! She quit her job mid term, was proven to be unethical by our Legislature (even though on the campaign trail w/McCain denied she had been found guilty), had to reimburse travel expenses (for her children's) to the State of Alaska. She's been caught in so many lies, it isn't even funny. (I actually have two pages of them in a file/with proof sources). While on the campaign trail w/McCain she indicated our new pipeline was under construction - it wasn't at that time and still isn't!! She's proven time and time again to be vindictive, thinned skin and short tempered. She's also not inquisitive and I'm sure has a very low IQ.
She has a huge ego. To think she thinks she is capable to go up against President Obama just blows me away. God, I'd love to see them in a debate!! She does not and has not made herself available to media people that question her regarding the one liners she has memorized...Fox/Hannity especially are easy on her and I'm sure she has rehearsed answers to their questions prior to their shows anyway. Even doing it that way, she comes across horribly.
My Jewish friends, I have news for you: waiting on Sarah Palin to retract "blood libel" is going to make wandering in the desert for 40 years seems like a weekend holiday.
ReplyDeleteSarah NEVER admits error.
BTW, in a "discussion" with a bot on the Atlantic, I got this reply:
"Actually, those "cross-hairs" were actually Printer crop marks, not cross-hairs."
Printer's crop marks? Is this the new excuse du jour from the Palin camp? How many do you think we'll go through? She had like five or six excuses for firing Walt Monegan. I'm betting we get at least four for this.
"Bretta said...
ReplyDelete"The term 'blood libel' is not a synonym for 'false accusation,' " said Simon Greer, president of Jewish Funds for Justice.
"Unless someone has been accusing Ms. Palin of killing Christian babies and making matzoh from their blood, her use of the term is totally out of line."
So now we know why Bristol and Willow are cranking out babies. Grisly $arah uses the blood for evil rites. This self-accusation of 'blood libel' is merely another Freudian slip.
10:39 PM"
Hasn't child sacrifice been one of the accusations
against her church?
O/T:
ReplyDeleteI got the thinking, I wonder if Sarah & Bristol
started sticking their tongues out because Tri-G,
having DS, sticks his tongue out? Why would they
copy him? Do they make fun of him at home &
just got into the habit & now they can't control it?
"When Governor Palin learns that many Jews are pained by and take offense at the use of the term, we are sure that she will choose to retract her comment, apologize and make a less inflammatory choice of words."
ReplyDeleteAnd I'm sure when Palin learns the effect her choice of words has, she'll use them over and over again.
Hey Gryphen, I've posted before, and posted two comments yesterday in response to this article, neither of which made it to the comments section. What's up with that? Both comments were on topic, did not use offensive language, and were not overly personal.
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Many mainstream Jewish organizations did NOT have a problem with it. Dershowitz among others.
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