In fact I can barely bring myself to believe that they have the temerity to even broadcast it after what happened in Arizona yesterday.
And even if I were physically able at this point to "play hurt" and take one for the team, I don't believe I even should. Nor for that matter should anybody else.
The fact is that today Sarah Palin stopped being a joke.
Today she became something else entirely.
Though there may NEVER be a direct line drawn between the kind of hateful rhetoric that Palin spews on a daily basis and the actions of Jared Lee Loughner, the fact is that she is clearly complicit in the minds of millions of Americans. And in my opinion she deserves nothing less.
She brought this hateful rhetoric to the national stage during the 2008 campaign trail and has never looked back.
Sniper targets on maps, talk of revolution and taking our country back, "Don't retreat, instead reload," sexually charged attacks against her critics, the omnipresent use of violence on her reality show, with all of this Sarah Palin has created a brand that is all about punishment and destruction.
Today Arizonians are mourning the punishment and destruction doled out by a very disturbed young man.
Today a mother is mourning the loss of her precious child.
In my opinion it would be disrespectful of their pain to watch, and talk about, this transparent political advertisement from the woman who carelessly throws around the kind of rhetoric that might very well have inspired this young man to murder six people and wound twelve others.
Today we need to mourn, and tomorrow hopefully, we begin to heal.
If others feel capable of dealing with this vile woman today, then my hat is off to them. But for me today is about holding those I love close, and sending my thoughts out to those whose loved ones were torn away from them in such a violent manner.
One last thought that I will share about Sarah Palin.
Somebody asked me today if I thought she was finally finished.
My response, yes she is finished. Take whatever cold comfort you can from that.
I am still sick to my stomach. Thanks for hanging in there G.
ReplyDeleteI also hope her political life is over, Gryphen.
ReplyDeleteBut like the Walking Dead, I fear her moldering corpse will drag itself through the motions.
Thank you, Gryphen. I will not watch and I agree with you: it's egregious that her show is being aired on TLC tonight. I am also comforted that you think she is finished. Thank God.
ReplyDeleteG, you have a tremendous way with words. Yes, she in no longer a joke. I've read thousands of pages of information about these shootings.
ReplyDeleteOne person said that if a student had drawn crosshairs on pictures of students the student would be expelled. Sarah Palin should be held responsible for the hate than she spews.
She is a vicious,vile (non) human being.
My thoughts & prayers are with the victims & their families.
NYCgirl
I hope you're right that she's finished as a national force. I want her to shut up and go live her life away from tv cameras. I want her daughters to go to school and maybe learn something about being decent, productive citizens.
ReplyDeleteI want people to stop flinging flaming mud on people and rejoicing when it sticks and burns people who never did them any harm.
Thank you Gryphen, that was very well said and I appreciate the thought and care that went into posting it.
ReplyDeleteYou are right. It's no longer a joke, her actions and words have become deadly. Plenty of people laughed and joked about Hitler...until it was too late. When will people figure out this is exactly the same thing?
I hope like hell this is the end of her and her aspirations. Unfortunately, I doubt she has the personal introspection to EVER examine herself enough to feel responsible for anything.
The last time a news story brought me to tears was the day the youngest victim was born.
ReplyDeleteI hope you are correct and she really is finished. Seems to me she is like a bad rash, hard to get rid of. I won't be satisfied until she loses EVERYTHING she gained through her hatred, and is left penniless. Maybe now the people who know all her secrets will finally be able to "tell all" and make money off her for a change. May she never have a decent night's sleep for the rest of her life, and I understand why Toad prefers the company of prostitutes. At least THEY are honest, in it for the money.
ReplyDeleteGryphen I don't understand how you can stomach to watch that show at anytime but I know you do it for your viewers. I just tell my viewers "screw you", catch it on some video that will be put out. I have never watched it and the only reason I know what happens is because you give us the low down. I appreciate someone taking one for the team but I am glad that you have chosen not to watch it tonight. As you said, no one should watch it and lets pray to God she is done! Many of us have been saying since she came on the scene that this was going to happen but the media and powers to be always swept it under the rug. I hope someone finally has the guts to do something about Sarah Palin and those like her. I hope the media will call a spade a spade and I hope her Karma has finally knocked on her door. I wish people from Alaska would have had the guts to say what they know before a little child and others got killed...just saying...
ReplyDeleteLove you Gryph.
ReplyDeleteI sure hope she is finished.
ReplyDeleteAs an Alaskan, I've been completely ashamed of the way this idiot has represented the place I love.
I was hoping that she'd move to Arizona, but I really don't want her to kill any more people.
Many many millions associate her with this terrible tragedy. That association is indelible. It was a Greg Stillson moment for her.
ReplyDeleteShe is finished, no matter what the final motivations were for the shooter(s). She is now a fringe radical who could never govern the whole country.
ReplyDeleteBet her ratings plummet tonight.
ReplyDeleteWhether one can draw a clear, direct line from Palin to the shooter, this tragedy clearly underlines the consequences of the "2nd amendment solution" advocated by Palin, Angle and other. Rep. Gifford, just doing her job of hearing her constituents' concerns, and the little girl put a face on the damage caused. No serious candidate is going to us gun-related imagery in a long time, I suspect.
ReplyDeleteOn a tangent, does anyone know if @bristolpalin is BP's real twitter account? Someone w that twittername showed all the judgment we've come to expect of a Palin in a twitterfight with a MattKap20 today. The comment remained on his feed but may have been erased from hers.
Heaps of blessings on the victims and their families.
Is Bristol drunk-dialing via tweets, comments to your blog and others?
ReplyDeleteI agree. I was always afraid that when SP's world finally blew apart, others would be caught in the toxic fallout. But I never thought that it would involve so many innocent people in such a horrible fashion.
ReplyDeleteI'm sadly not surprised that TLC is still airing her show tonight. In fact, they've been running the series all day. I've never watched one, just read the recaps. Guess they have too much cash invested and have to run the season out, but what a sign of respect for the victims (and awareness of the sad outcome of Sarah and her ilk's evil rhetoric) if they had taken the high road and canceled or postponed tonight's episodes. Thank you, Gryphen, for deciding not to tweet. I'm sure the Bots will be glued to their screens, praying for their poor, misunderstood Queen. One would hope they'll pray for the victims and their families as well.
Palin is poison. Pass it on.
At least the sweet 9 yo face is going to be harder to look past for Fox viewers that Dr. Emmett Till. May we all learn our lesson from this.
ReplyDeleteBest to you, G.
Gryphen,I'm sorry about a previous post where I couldn't get a web address out correctly.Sometimes my computer and I don't see eye to eye.Any way there is an online petition to have Palin indicted for her crimes.www.petetion online .com.We need to make this bitch accountable.
ReplyDeleteGryphen, don't waste time watching her piece of shit show. She is beneath human.
ReplyDeleteHave you notice the bitch hasn't even had the decency to say a word about these shootings. The tweet referring to her facebook post saying the victims have her sympathy was posted via fb by RAM, NOT PALIN.
She has been silent on all of this.
That silence is worse than the map was to begin with.
Sarah has to know she is playing with fire.She has been warned.Certainly she can see the rage and violence she encourages.
ReplyDeleteWith all the expensive campaign consultants Sarah uses,I am sure somebody has mentioned to her the less stable people are taking her seriously.
I am so sad today.
This national tragedy has affected me so deeply.
I have been helplessly waiting for this horrific incident to happen
Thank you for standing up to her and all the horror she is/represents.
ReplyDeleteWhat's amazing is that this nightmare is probably the end of the public Sarah Palin, but that was going to happen anyway because of so MANY other things that she has said and done. I wish she could have just "jumped the shark" without deaths being involved.
Anyway, thank you. You will be missed but she will not.
Well, I can say that my husband, who always just poo=poed me with my 'obsession' about Palin told me today that Palin is finished. He checks out totally different blogs than I do- mainly economic ones - and that is the take he got from them.
ReplyDeleteI am glad.
Palins, I know you guys are reading here: F*CK YOU AND THE HORSE (Murdock, Koch, McShame) RODE IN ON! MAY YOU ROT IN H*LL FOREVER AND EVER!!!
(And, BTW: Do you see how I put an asterisk (*) instead of a 'target'? THAT is how you do it, if you do not want to actually incite people!)
Thank you, Gryphen...nicely said.
ReplyDeleteBTW: I totally agree with you not watching the two hour infomercial for more hatred and treason and sedition and incitement to violence! Kudos to you and countless others who will join you! (I am so glad we don't have a TV anymore!...)
ReplyDeleteEvery future appearance that Palin makes anywhere, she should be confronted with pictures of the victims of yesterday's massacre. Palin should be forced to look into the smiling face of Christina Taylor Green at every book signing or every political rally she ever appears at, for the rest of her life.
ReplyDeleteI think that, given the bull's eye graphic that Palin used to target Giffords specifically, she IS directly culpable in the violent act that occurred yesterday. I heard the violent chants at a McCain/Palin rally here in Albuquerque, and neither McCain nor Palin said anything to distance themselves from them. That pall of violent words and imagery, from both Palin and her supporters has clung to her like stink on shit for the two years since the presidential campaign ended. Through it all, Palin has remained silent regarding the invocation of violence as a means to achieve political ends. It's too bad she just hadn't been SILENT.
Palin has recklessly inflamed the delusions and insane passions of the idiot base of the teabaggers. She speaks to their insanity, to their paranoia, and to their fears. And she does so with words like "set your sights on next season’s targets," "never retreat, instead RELOAD," and "'bullseye' icon used 2 target the 20 Obamacare-lovin' incumbent seats" all accompanied by a graphic using rifle scope cross hairs to indicate who the targets should be. And yesterday, one of those targets was shot in the head at point blank range.
She owns a part of what happened yesterday. She damn well better try and atone for it, though I'm not sure what she could do that would seem sincere at this point.
Palin, for once in your life, do something responsible and decent and apologize sincerely, then STFU forever!
I think that the Lamestream Media should vow to ignore Palin and not report or repeat any of her vitriol again. She has been irrelevant since she resigned as governor of Alaska. She has manipulated the media to stay in the limelight and the media has printed and continued to give her a platform to spew her hatred. Now is the time to put Palin where she belongs: a mere asterisk in the history of Alaska. No one should be watching her wretched show tonight. She should be shunned as the hateful creature she is.
ReplyDeleteAnon 2:16, you are so right. Our High School had a student who did that on the internet with the President's picture. The Secret Services was on it!! I won't watch tonight; no virtue, I don't have a TV. I hope she is history. We will see. She certainly is no longer a joke, or amusing to watch.
ReplyDeleteNeal Boortz on CNN is pissing on the Sheriff calling him a leftist hack and comparing this to 1963. WTF. In 1963 we depended on in large cities, one paper a day. There was not 24/7 internet, radio talk and in fact in 1963, there was not 24/7 TV. News was at 12 noon, 6 pm and 11 pm. I can here the sign off music in my head at maybe 1 or 2 every night.
ReplyDeleteSTFU Boortz
Why isn't the Alaska media getting a comment from the sociopath?
ReplyDeleteShe is MIA. That's not her usual behavior; she loves the limelight and attention. Is something/someone preventing her from her normal "kneejerk retort"?
Maybe the GOP will start to see Sarah Palin for what she really represents. Under that short skirt and behind the phoney grin/wink is heart of a serpent. I hope the gates of Hell shallow this woman.
ReplyDeleteCan't blame you, Fu&& her. Sickening bitch.
ReplyDeleteAs much as we would all find satisfaction in it, Palin will never be held legally responsible for her part in this tragedy. There is no absolute, concrete proof that her years of inciting hate and encouraging violence triggered the attack. She will never be arrested and likely will never be found liable in civil court.
ReplyDeleteThe best thing we can all do to find some peace is to force her into complete oblivion. She needs to be isolated and shunned, never to be interviewed or videotaped again. She needs to be completely and permanently removed from all media and all political influence.
We can start that process by refusing to watch the travesty that is her unreality show.
Before you say finished, check her base sites. This country has gone to dogs with hate. The right can not take any responsibily of the rhetoric they spew. Unbelivable. They are good at cover ups.
ReplyDeleteSarah is just a victim now..
They are like whaaaaaaaaa whaaaaaaaaaa
Dispicable democrats blaming our savior SP.
I am not kidding see this nosense
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/gabrielle-giffords-Jared-Loughner/2011/01/09/id/382275?s=al&promo_code=B6DD-1
Gryphen, I hate to pile on when everyone is feeling so down, but this link is outrageous:
ReplyDeletehttp://obamalondon.blogspot.com/2011/01/inexplicable-edits-on-sarah-palins.html
Shows Sarah's Facebook moderation team at work, or notably NOT at work, when someone makes a post abusing the 9-year-old girl's memory. All anti-Sarah posts, though, go down immediately. What a fucked up world.
Thank you. The PG blogger is going to watch; I'm ambivalent about it--not watching, because we don't have cable--but about participating in the 'entertainment' it has provided, not in the way the WGE expected, but in our way. But anyway. . .good for you for not participating tonight. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, she's done. It's all over except the coming spectacle she'll provide over the ending. It will be ugly.
Gryphen, it's funny you said this tonight, because last night and all during the day this was the general sentiment on my humble blog post and throughout the entire Facebook arena---
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin has stopped being the brunt of everyone's jokes and revealed herself to be frightening.
Frightening because of her pig-headed ignorance, and her charisma over the weak-minded holy-rollers with a need for gun-action who are following her. It's suddenly turned macabre at a level only comparable to Charlie Manson and the Tate-LaBianca murders, for the sole reason to incite Helter Skelter and a racial war.
You don't have to be a member of the tea party, but if you're one of the poor crazies and psychotics out there, sitting at home, getting restless, angry, unemployed, wondering what the hell is happening... and you by chance stop by FOX News and see not just her, but Beck, for example, ranting and raving... something's bound to snap.
And you get Tucson, AZ.
I think she is done, politically. She will try to weasel herself as an aide perhaps on her replacement, but if she wanted the world to stand up and see her, she got it. And it's not a pretty picture. In fact, it's quite ugly, and it's getting darker and more menacing by the moment.
I e-mailed TLC earlier today and asked them if they would, in good taste, not air her season finale.
ReplyDeleteI'm hoping whatever had to do with that email you and AKWTF ends with an orange jumpsuit on this lying, grifting fraud and her posse.
ReplyDelete(Levi might be looking like a 140 IQ by avoiding this family.)
Of course you should not watch that tripe! How you do so much astounds me.
ReplyDeleteIt's amazing that it took such an act of violence to focus the eyes of the everyday Americans on the hatred she spews(a friend said of her "she's just a joke"). She's not a joke - she's a cancer.
But sadly - I don't think she's done. I don't think I have ever wanted to be wrong more in my life.
Peace,
T
This is an angry and mentally disturbed man. He was looking for a target for his paranoia and Palin and others directed him to one.
ReplyDeleteI hope we all remember the other dead in this event. They haven't yet received their due respect because they were not children or publicly known.
ReplyDeleteI realize none of us are purposely forgetting them, but the news focus is on the Representative, the Judge, and the Child. They represent powerful categories or images of loss. However, others are dead and their families are grieving. Their lives mattered as well and remembrance.
Plus, what about those who were only wounded. We do not know yet how serious their physical injures are what lasting physical suffering they may endure, but their lives and those of their friends and families will forever be marked by this violence.
Whenever someone strikes out in violence, it is never just the primary victim that suffers, never just the family or friends - we are all victims of this hideous crime arising from an individual's disturbed mind and a political and popular culture that has come to be mired in disrespect, hate talk, and violent metaphors.
All I hope is that the other primary victims of this incident do not get lost or passed over because of the larger-than-life categories of politician, judge and child. All are tragic losses even though some seem more powerful images representative of great loss.
Sarah Palin and all those like her who carelessly or purposefully whip the fires of hate and intolerance are to blame. Those who use destructive metaphors to manipulate others are to blame.
May Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and all the others fade into the darkness of these past few years, becoming shameful footnotes to our country's history.
Man Sour is Tweeting her heart out--the
ReplyDeleteshooter is a total pot-head LIbRUl!!11!!
No matter what he is, or isn't, Sarah Palin still
wanted Rep. Giffords killed.
Keep fucking that chicken, Man Sour! The big
mean meanies who mean on the Grizzled
Mama will get theirs! No one attacks the
Queen P!
Gagirly said...
ReplyDeleteThe last time a news story brought me to tears was the day the youngest victim was born.
2:22 PM
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It is sad to think we cried on her Birth day and her death day. I can't find the right word to describe it but that gives me shivers.
Gryphen,
ReplyDeleteThank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Palin's phony TV show needs to be shunned.
She does need to be totally & continuously called out for her vitriol.
Palinspeak And Violence
ReplyDeleteA reader writes:
I dislike Sarah Palin (almost) as much as you do, but her March Madness post chock full of violent metaphors was written not out of the blue but rather as a sarcastic response to press/blogospheric criticism that she had gone too far with her "crosshairs" and "don't retreat, reload" political rhetoric. It's not just a random post proving that she can't even talk about sports without discussing over-the-top violence. Rather, she purposefully, and sarcastically, filled the post with as much battle imagery as possible to show that the type of metaphors she had been using in her political rhetoric -- and that she was being criticized for in the press and in the blogosphere -- are in fact commonplace in sports lingo.
I agree with you that her rhetoric is dangerous and over-the-top, and perhaps even that one of the constants in her worldview is violence.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/01/palinspeak-and-violence-ctd.html
Whack-A-Mole At Palin's Facebook
ReplyDeleteThe faster the angry comments appear the faster the Palinites take them down. It's an impressive operation - like watching historical whitewashing in real time.
The faster the angry comments appear the faster the Palinites take them down. It's an impressive operation - like watching historical whitewashing in real time.
ReplyDeletehttp://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/01/whack-a-mole-at-palins-facebook.html
Good move, Grphyen. Nobody should be watching this tonight. There's nothing funny anymore, and she should be shunned like a leper. I hope you are right and she is really finished, but I'm afraid of the completely irrational response of her bots. Some of them seem to want even more blood.
ReplyDeleteThe main reason I think she is DONE is not that people won't connect the dots (they already are), but that she's been propelled all along by two things: hate mongering, and working her assets (ahem) to best advantage among the feeble-minded. The latter strategy has been in obvious peril for a while. (Hey Sarah haven't the bruises healed YET?) Now the former is not going to fly. Strip away the pretty face and the hate and what's left?
ReplyDeletePS. Take care, Gryphen! And thanks for everything that you do!
ReplyDeleteMany people have commented on this blog and othera that Palin was dangerous. I thought when her 15 minutes was up she would destroy herself and her family, but never in a million years did I expect a terrorist to assassinate six American citizens and attempt to assassinate a well-respected Congressmen because of her toxic, violent rhetoric.
ReplyDeleteHow do we recover from this when Sen. Kyl and other are attacking Sheriff Dupnik, the most sensible voice in America?
I just sent the following tweet.
ReplyDeleteHer name was Christina Taylor Green and she is dead @SarahPalinUSA
Perhaps if she hears this child's name often enough she will finally understand how much damage her words can cause.
Palin can run but she cannot erase the Internet. Which leads to this tweet of the day which just landed in my in-tray:
ReplyDeletehttp://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/01/not-cross-hairs-but-bullseye.html
I absolutely agree with your decision Gryphen. I can't even think of looking at her hateful face. Thank you for all that you have posted about this terrible event. My heart breaks for that child and her family.
ReplyDelete"Refudiation free zone here. 20 people are mowed down in a grocery store and Palin thinks she's the victim? Typical. You don't get to spend 3 years blowing a dog whistle and yelling fire in a theater then get to wash your hands of it when it goes bad," - from a commenter on Politico.
ReplyDeletehttp://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/01/comment-of-the-day.html
While politicians,both Republicans and Democrats, are offering their sentiments and thoughts about the Arizona shooting, Sarah is silent. Her only defense, through RAM, was that those were map marks, not cross hairs. Sarah called them targets and bulls' eyes. So much for the map marks and the lame excuse.
ReplyDeleteSarah offered premature condolences to the Giffords family while Gabrielle is still alive and fighting for her life yesterday. Since then, Sarah hasn't said a thing." Meanwhile, the woman who couldn't shut up when Joe McGinniss lived next door and didn't do anything. Where is the outrage when people are killed? Where is Sarah now? I know, she finally decided to sit down and shut up!
One of the constants in Sarah Palin's worldview is violence. You see it in her reality show where most wildlife is immediately identified as a threat to be guarded against or killed. You see it in her inflammatory language, and the ways in which she corrals supporters to sometimes shockingly violent threats. You see it even in completely innocuous Facebook postings on sports. Just check out this Palin stream-of-consciousness on, yes, March Madness:
ReplyDeleteTo the teams that desire making it this far next year: Gear up! In the battle, set your sights on next season’s targets! From the shot across the bow – the first second’s tip-off – your leaders will be in the enemy’s crosshairs, so you must execute strong defensive tactics. You won’t win only playing defense, so get on offense!
The crossfire is intense, so penetrate through enemy territory by bombing through the press, and use your strong weapons – your Big Guns – to drive to the hole. Shoot with accuracy; aim high and remember it takes blood, sweat and tears to win. Focus on the goal and fight for it.
If the gate is closed, go over the fence. If the fence is too high, pole vault in. If that doesn’t work, parachute in. If the other side tries to push back, your attitude should be “go for it.” Get in their faces and argue with them. (Sound familiar?!) Every possession is a battle; you’ll only win the war if you’ve picked your battles wisely. No matter how tough it gets, never retreat, instead RELOAD!
The point here is not that there is any connection between this random post and political violence. The point is the worldview Palin holds. It is zero-sum. It expresses itself in clear and stark violent imagery. It is constantly about attack, conflict, combat, "enemy territory", "Big Guns", battle. This rhetorical background is so deeply part of the narrative we barely notice it any more. But it is not truly the language of politics; it's the language of war.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/01/palinspeak-and-violence.html
I will not watch...I have passed on that no one should watch. You are making the exact right decision Gryph. I have watched in the past to make fun of, write, and blog about her stupidity. Making fun, laughter and idiotic peeps from Palin are not worth it tonight and not on my agenda. I will spend my time remembering and praying for the victims and their families and watching CNN.
ReplyDelete@2:47 - I share your desire for national healing but disagree about the legal foundations for a civil suit possibly filed by the families involved in this tragedy against Palin. Palin put a target on the back of a Congresswoman; there's national TV footage of this Congresswoman saying that Sarah Palin's rhetoric caused her distress. And so many people were shot in this assassination attempt: a judge, a pastor and a child died. There's a direct, irrefutable tie to Palin's rhetoric; it will be very surprising if there's no legal action in a civil court. I would think there would be several legal angles in...
ReplyDeleteI saw this over at HPost ---
ReplyDeletehttp://jaredloughner.blogspot.com/
His blog with postings from yesterday, a video from a Tea Party event protesting her, and he then links to a conspiracy site where he rants about currency exactly like in the videos. It's clearly his site, with 2 of his videos being included also. I have seen NO ONE report on his postings on this conspiracy site yet this blog links to them.
It's his. I've found via public records http://jaredloughner.us and jaredleeloughner.us were purchased before yesterday and they also link to this blog. REPORT THIS!!!!
There is a petition up now to indict Palin for incitement to violence:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.petitiononline.com/IndictSP/
Please sign it!
I wish we could just "shun" her, never listen or speak of her again - act as if she doesn't exist. Unfortunately, we cannot bury our head in the sand with these divisive-hateful people.
ReplyDeleteWe won't quit until she is 100% out of the public arena. No more books, no more speaking fee's, no more Faux commentary and no more public stages. Anywhere she appears there should be signs in protest until she vanishes from the public.
We will "shun" SPA & TLC tonight - but until she is publically destroyed... we continue.
Cold comfort indeed. I affirm your decision.
ReplyDeleteSome pretty sarcastic remarks made about mansour- (scathing comes to mind)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
Ha. Yes, "surveyors marks." The whole country is familiar with those! VOTERS REALLY NEED TO TAKE A STAND AND "SURVEY" GABRIELLE GIFFORDS' DISTRICT.
Uhm, look. If you're familiar with Rebecca Mansour, you know her to be a very minor figure -- a pinhead fangirl who is rarely worth talking about and certainly isn't contributing in any way to anyone's intelligent or moral discourse. But this response from her is daffy. Surveyor's marks. Okay, you must think I'm a fool. Like I said before, there is no bright and shining line between the above image and anyone getting shot, okay? The gunman didn't seem to have the 2010 midterms, or these..."surveyor's marks" in mind. Okay? We can say that. But did someone feel a twinge of moral responsibility just the same? YES, THEY EFFING DID. They pulled this image down off of the campaign website. YOU KNOW, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THESE ARE OBVIOUSLY JUST SURVEYOR' S MARKS.
You know, Rebecca, you should go with that instinct, next time. Just say, "We of course never intended for anyone to get shot and we're pretty sure that we didn't inspire this shooting. But we learned a lesson today about how the lines can blur. And we personally felt a shudder in our conscience when this happened. Despite the fact that we are not responsible, this event triggered a depth charge, somewhere near our guilt center. We're not bad people, we didn't do anything wrong, but we can still find ways to be better, and we will try to be better, so that next time this happens, there won't be an image we have to remove from our website -- LIKE THIS TIME, because a teeny sense of responsibility actually finally surfaced and cut through the overwhelming pride we possess that typically compels us to never ever admit we made any mistake ever and FORCED us to take it down. And yes, YOU KNOW US, our pride came back and won the day, making it possible for me to introduce most of America to the concept of 'surveyors marks' -- YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIVES. But for a second, when we took the image down, you saw a flash of it, that responsibility we're supposed to maybe feel, that we keep in an induced coma, because MEEEEEE, MEEEEEE, WAAAAANNNNT, MEEEEEEE."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/09/2011-01-09_palin_put_a_target_on_her_she_should_have_known_the_dangers.html
ReplyDeleteSome pretty sarcastic remarks made about mansour- (scathing comes to mind)
ReplyDeleteHa. Yes, "surveyors marks." The whole country is familiar with those! VOTERS REALLY NEED TO TAKE A STAND AND "SURVEY" GABRIELLE GIFFORDS' DISTRICT.
Uhm, look. If you're familiar with Rebecca Mansour, you know her to be a very minor figure -- a pinhead fangirl who is rarely worth talking about and certainly isn't contributing in any way to anyone's intelligent or moral discourse. But this response from her is daffy. Surveyor's marks. Okay, you must think I'm a fool. Like I said before, there is no bright and shining line between the above image and anyone getting shot, okay? The gunman didn't seem to have the 2010 midterms, or these..."surveyor's marks" in mind. Okay? We can say that. But did someone feel a twinge of moral responsibility just the same? YES, THEY EFFING DID. They pulled this image down off of the campaign website. YOU KNOW, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THESE ARE OBVIOUSLY JUST SURVEYOR' S MARKS.
You know, Rebecca, you should go with that instinct, next time. Just say, "We of course never intended for anyone to get shot and we're pretty sure that we didn't inspire this shooting. But we learned a lesson today about how the lines can blur. And we personally felt a shudder in our conscience when this happened. Despite the fact that we are not responsible, this event triggered a depth charge, somewhere near our guilt center. We're not bad people, we didn't do anything wrong, but we can still find ways to be better, and we will try to be better, so that next time this happens, there won't be an image we have to remove from our website -- LIKE THIS TIME, because a teeny sense of responsibility actually finally surfaced and cut through the overwhelming pride we possess that typically compels us to never ever admit we made any mistake ever and FORCED us to take it down. And yes, YOU KNOW US, our pride came back and won the day, making it possible for me to introduce most of America to the concept of 'surveyors marks' -- YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIVES. But for a second, when we took the image down, you saw a flash of it, that responsibility we're supposed to maybe feel, that we keep in an induced coma, because MEEEEEE, MEEEEEE, WAAAAANNNNT, MEEEEEEE."
Mansour can spin it all she wants but, a poster had asked:
ReplyDeleteIf that map was found in a Muslim Mosque, would the right wing consider that a direct link to the shooter?
The answer is yes.
They would consider that map as a terroristic threat.
$arah, you are guilty of that shooting, and scrubbing it from your site doesn't make it go away.
You do not need to watch her idiotic show and report to us. I'm very anti Palin and even am more so today due to her trying to lie her out of the Tucson mess. She is the most evil woman on the planet and (I'd love to print what I'm really thinking!)
ReplyDeleteSome pretty sarcastic remarks made about mansour- (scathing comes to mind)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
Ha. Yes, "surveyors marks." The whole country is familiar with those! VOTERS REALLY NEED TO TAKE A STAND AND "SURVEY" GABRIELLE GIFFORDS' DISTRICT.
Uhm, look. If you're familiar with Rebecca Mansour, you know her to be a very minor figure -- a pinhead fangirl who is rarely worth talking about and certainly isn't contributing in any way to anyone's intelligent or moral discourse. But this response from her is daffy. Surveyor's marks. Okay, you must think I'm a fool. Like I said before, there is no bright and shining line between the above image and anyone getting shot, okay? The gunman didn't seem to have the 2010 midterms, or these..."surveyor's marks" in mind. Okay? We can say that. But did someone feel a twinge of moral responsibility just the same? YES, THEY EFFING DID. They pulled this image down off of the campaign website. YOU KNOW, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THESE ARE OBVIOUSLY JUST SURVEYOR' S MARKS.
You know, Rebecca, you should go with that instinct, next time. Just say, "We of course never intended for anyone to get shot and we're pretty sure that we didn't inspire this shooting. But we learned a lesson today about how the lines can blur. And we personally felt a shudder in our conscience when this happened. Despite the fact that we are not responsible, this event triggered a depth charge, somewhere near our guilt center. We're not bad people, we didn't do anything wrong, but we can still find ways to be better, and we will try to be better, so that next time this happens, there won't be an image we have to remove from our website -- LIKE THIS TIME, because a teeny sense of responsibility actually finally surfaced and cut through the overwhelming pride we possess that typically compels us to never ever admit we made any mistake ever and FORCED us to take it down. And yes, YOU KNOW US, our pride came back and won the day, making it possible for me to introduce most of America to the concept of 'surveyors marks' -- YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIVES. But for a second, when we took the image down, you saw a flash of it, that responsibility we're supposed to maybe feel, that we keep in an induced coma, because MEEEEEE, MEEEEEE, WAAAAANNNNT, MEEEEEEE."
Don't mean to kick when you are down, but you might want to check the spelling of Loughner's name. After originally spelling it with an 'a' like you have done, they changed it to the correct spelling yesterday, i.e. Loughner.
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin was inciting people since she was first introduced to the country where she was insinuating that Obama is a terrorist. She hasn't drop the dangerous rhetoric since, all for the sake of being "controversial" in order to keep herself popular in the media and whatever else may come of that. While she's not directly responsible, she certainly has the cold heart of a murderer.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the difference between demonizing and inciting hatred toward opponents while knowing what the potential consequences are and actually killing them yourself?
Heck, one can almost make the case that she did indeed directly encourage such killings, yet using coded language.
It's hard to say if Sarah is now toast, but she should be.
Gryphen,
ReplyDeleteMy heart goes out to you. You have worked very hard to bring us your excellent comments and we appreciate it, even though we know how hard it's has been for you today. We will get past this and will remain IM fans...long after Sarah is nothing than very bad history.
You inspire me, keep up the excellent work.
The National Geographic Channel has a new series titled Alaska State Troopers. OMG, that will certainly fry Sarah. The show looks far more real and exciting than Sarah Palin's paid advertisement.
ReplyDelete@RAMansour is just spinning her hamster wheel as fast as she can. Around and around and around she goes. LOL
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin has a special responsibility and opportunity in the wake of the attempted assassination of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. For it was Sarah Palin and Sarah Palin alone who earlier put the crosshairs of a gun on Rep. Giffords. And so far, Palin's response has been Facebook prayers for the victims and an official denial that her widely distributed map involved gun sights at all. This is obscene duplicity at best.
ReplyDeleteBut only Sarah Palin put 20 Democratic members of Congress in her crosshairs, and only Sarah Palin bragged that 18 are now gone, leaving Rep. Giffords and Rep. Nick Rahall of West Virginia.
Someone has to say it. There has been an astonishing acceleration of violent right wing rhetoric. At the same time, the mainstream media has come to accept armed revolution (second amendment remedies) and violence as legitimate political discourse instead of calling it out as behavior that crosses a very dangerous line. In the past week alone, incendiary devices were received at the offices of the Democratic Secretary of Homeland Security and the Democratic Governor of Maryland.
Tell Sarah Palin: Threats of violence have no place in our democracy. End the use of shooting images in rightwing political rhetoric and stop validating political figures who use violent metaphors in their political calls to action.
The petition reads:
"Threats of violence have no place in our democracy. Renounce the use of shooting images in political rhetoric immediately, and stop using your platform to promote and validate violent calls to action on the right."
http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/palin_violence/index2.html?rc=tw2
Genius tweet by Michael Moore which warrants re-posting:
ReplyDelete"RT @MMFlint: If a Detroit Muslim put a map on the web w/crosshairs on 20 pols, then 1 of them got shot, where would he b sitting right now? Just asking"
I could never watch that political infomercial. Thank you for all you have done and stay close to your lovely family and friends at a time like this. I'm glad the show is finished and I am hopeful that TLC will come to their senses and end he propaganda.
ReplyDeleteEach time I see Piper Palin's face I will be reminded that Christina Green's parents will not be able to watch her grow up. It doesn't take a direct line to be drawn for Sarah's consequences to have a fall out on her children. I am sad for them but not like the deeper cut. It is a shame that Sarah's fall out would etch Piper into history in that way. People did try to warn Sarah that the results of her words and actions could be dire.
It'll be interesting to see what Fox does with her now. My guess: they'll keep her on the air and pass her a question or two about this tragedy, to which she'll provide a brief, prepared response, and then they'll attempt to blow it off and move on while suggesting that "the left" is just trying to score political points from this. You know, the same casual dismissal they use toward those "loons on the left" that actually think Trig is not actually Sarah's son... then they'll proceed with business as usual.
ReplyDeleteI am hesitant to say that Sarah is finished now. Reality is what we perceive. Fox and the like have an alternative universe designed to give those like Sarah a place to thrive. We'll see what happens. But reality has made a few large strides closer to her, that's for sure.
You cannot hold the best interests of people in your heart if you act and behave the way Sarah Palin does. Her words, actions and intent are full of thoughtless aggression and real hate.She doesn't speak of tempered discussion and coming together. A shallow opportunist and exploiter, she has risen to her "fame" thanks to a mega boost from McCain. If it hadn't been for the aberration of luck she'd still be mukluking through Alaska. We can't expect her to do the right thing because she has no moral conscience. Even in regards to this horrific attack, she is incapable of owning her wrong doing. This is a character flaw that is seriously dangerous in anyone who assumes the role of leader of any sort.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/roblabrousse/sarah-palin-rebecca-mansour-crosshairs-arizona_n_806375_73321719.html
Thank you so much for doing what you do, Gryphen. I have been following your blog from outside the US for the past 4 months including your SPA recaps. I think you're exactly right. Sarah Palin stopped being a shrill, loud, annoying, frustrating, never-ending train wreck today. I really really really hope she goes down fast and takes some of her colleagues at Fox with her.
ReplyDeleteWaves of distress continue to roll over me and my family here in Tucson. The town is quiet, mourning and focused on this horror.
ReplyDeleteThank you for joining with us as we grieve for all those killed.
I cannot eat right, have trouble sleeping and wish that things could be different.
There are vigils taking place all over town.
Their lives are not in vain if Palin, Beck and all the other hate mongers are quieted. They should be ashamed of themselves, but they are probably not.
Peace.
Sar.ah Pa.l.in's quick response to the assassination attempt on Rep. Giffords, the murders of several victims, including a federal judge and a nine-year-old child, as well as the shooting of over a dozen others was a transparent attempt at damage control. Puh-leaze. Pal.in's incendiary, hate-filled speech time and time again, her crosshairs graphic, her use of gun and shooting language toward those who do not agree with her or her Tea Partying ha.te mon.gers all speak for itself. She has essentially in.dicted herself. P-n is now unelectable. Perhaps its time for public personalities to take responsible for their violence-inciting rhetoric. It seems there's no better time than now.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/zinc11/sarah-palin-rebecca-mansour-crosshairs-arizona_n_806375_73321512.html
I read this in a comment section somewhere online and don't want to forget it: In response to those who say their rhetoric, their words didn't pull the trigger of the gun used to kill those in Arizona --- the Constitution is written words, the Bible is written words. Why are they important? Because words matter.
ReplyDeletePalin et al use violent rhetoric because it gets them attention and money - but it also fosters an environment of hate where those less stable find it easier to justify and commit such horrific actions. Words matter.
Your post is excellent as always. Thank you. Margaret
Absolutely right: let's none of us watch. We already know she and her enablers are very dangerous. Very. I don't think she is over. I won't feel that until we are SURE. I hope I am wrong.
ReplyDeleteHeartfelt sympathy to all the victims and their loved ones.
Some People are calling for everyone to be calm and let the investigation roll out. I think we have a right to be angry. We saw this coming and couldn't do anything about it. The hateful rhetoric and militant ways of the tea party movement brought this on. Civil disobedience is one thing, protesting is another. Their ways have encouraged acts of treason. We saw and heard an tone that called for this type of action. We expect those that have a national platform to be intelligent enough to understand the power they have.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Curt_H/sarah-palin-rebecca-mansour-crosshairs-arizona_n_806375_73321391.html
Gryphen, a friend of mine did some investigation on the clues gleaned about the shooter and came up with:
ReplyDeleteSovereign Citizens..and it is an interesting read here
I kept tripping over that "grammar" issue. Seems this group walks to the beat of a different drummer. How does a 22 year old kid fall into this trap..parents?
I don't ever allow her to come into my living room. Even on TV she leaves her toxic stink behind.
ReplyDeleteOTOH there is so much crap on the internet that she's right at home.
I think what many of us are failing to think through is that Sarah Palin has been brought in front of the public by people, and corporations - not by her followers. I suppose someone could make the case that her self-promotional twitter activities might be sustained longterm through these supporters, but what would that add up to? What would she tweet about? Her poll numbers had already tanked before this terrible event.
ReplyDeleteWhat people are going to seek her out for comments or interviews, about anything frankly, after this? What would she say? Is she going to try and pretend that this didn't happen and attempt to change the subject and regurgitate GOP talking points? If not, what sort of sick strategy is she planning so as to avoid taking responsibility for the part her violent rhetoric has played here - and make no mistake, it has played a part, if only in contributing to this over-the-line tough talk that basically implies there are no limits to one's options for resistance against the supposedly evil government.
What corporation would back her and sponsor her and seek her out at this moment in time? Will she appear on Fox? What would she say?
What publishing company is going to invest millions in any book that she might write? What would she write?
There's nothing left, quite honestly. As much as people have come to believe that she is invincibly, she's not really. Her public image cannot possibly overcome the fallout from this event. I am not saying she will disappear entirely, I am saying her political career is over.
If she had a conscience, she would collapse in crisis and end up having a nervous breakdown from the guilt about this. I know I would, if I had put a target symbol and listed a woman's name for my supporters to pursue in some way - a woman who later was shot through the head.
Sarah is a commercial commodity. Her political pull has been waning for months. She is not on TV because what she says is so compelling or important. She has been on TV because she makes money for people. Not such a good idea to use her for this purpose anymore, dontcha think?
Everything changed yesterday. She cannot recover from this. Period.
ReplyDelete@3:14 p.m about:
ReplyDeletehttp://jaredloughner.blogspot.com/
BS! The blog postings are all from yesterday. I think he was busy with other things.
The domain names mentioned were also taken out yesterday. You can go to www.whois.net to see who owns a domain name and when it was bought.
Vinnie
"Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI saw this over at HPost ---
http://jaredloughner.blogspot.com/
His blog with postings from yesterday, a video from a Tea Party event protesting her, and he then links to a conspiracy site where he rants about currency exactly like in the videos. It's clearly his site, with 2 of his videos being included also. I have seen NO ONE report on his postings on this conspiracy site yet this blog links to them.
It's his. I've found via public records http://jaredloughner.us and jaredleeloughner.us were purchased before yesterday and they also link to this blog. REPORT THIS!!!!
3:14 PM"
With no time stamps on the posts, my guess is
it is someone using his name--you can see
all the ads, someone thought they'd make
a quick buck.
In case you wish to light a virtual candle and share a message with the families of the lost and the surviving wounded, please go to:
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/2vxujjq
Thank you.
Was it the ManSour woman that "surveyed" Mitt Romney in a video? She was smitten with Hollywood and worked the business.
ReplyDeleteMalia Litman has an excellent rundown on legal possibilities from a federal angle (not civil): http://malialitman.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/death-penalty-available-for-the-shooter-possible-charge-of-solicitation-for-sarah-palin/
ReplyDeleteI am with you. I am so sad a child- one very much like my own- was killed by this young man.
ReplyDeletePalin, her bots, and Fox News is backpedaling, throwing accusations to any and all who disagree with them that that's where the violence lives.
They are even using President Obama's- a very reasonable leader- words in his tax compromise press conference as proof of the guilty Left.
I am sad.
I can only hope a few Palin bots see her words as part of the problem and stop loving her.
I hope.
The shooter Jared is also a victim of all the right wing hatred and propaganda which caused him to form his opinions and take the actions that he did.
ReplyDeleteHe is a young person whose mind was poisoned by what he heard, read and saw.
Does he have parents? siblings?
Not defending him and his actions. Just wish he had better surroundings than those which influenced him.
" Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI e-mailed TLC earlier today and asked them if they would, in good taste, not air her season finale.
2:51 PM"
According to the Zap2it guide, TLC has been having
a Saint Sarah marathon all damn day. It is almost
as though they are rubbing this bitch in our faces.
I don't blame you. I have never watched it.
ReplyDeleteI just read John Kyl, the ridiculously dense and conservative senator in AZ, called the sherrifs comments about inflammatory rhetoric inappropriate. I think Kyl is the inappropriate one, as usual. He's horrible.
I agree with your decision too Gryph. Very thoughtful post, as usual. You are exactly right, she's not a joke anymore.
ReplyDeleteI hope the lamestream media decides to shun her as well.
I hope you have a peace-filled evening. Thanks.
R in NC
Thanks for skipping her reality show tonight. It's time for the focus to be off of the one who incites hate and violence and onto the people who have been hurt and killed.
ReplyDeleteI do not believe that Palin ever thought this would happen. But when she used these images and this violent language and she got the desired strong reaction
from the media, the left and even the woman who was put in the cross hairs, she did not heed the warning that she was treading on dangerous ground.
Sarah Palin makes me sick.
palins inflamatory rhetoric may or may not have influenced this nutcase, or constituent,whatever, but it is by no means a stretch to imagine that the shooter was just trying to impress his queen. As per john hinkley.Any person that thinks that the congresswoman was not the intended target is just in on the twisted lies of these subhuman creeps. If it were to be random, he could have just walked into the mall and found more easy targets.May whatever god these animals believe in have mercy on their soulless corpses. There is a special place in their hell for all of them.
ReplyDeleteSo, already SP's toady RM is blaming the design professional who did the map. This is the same old song. Palin and her people never EVER take responsibility for ANYTHING. Somehow in my mind, I thought this would be different with its grave circumstances. But, no. Not a word to say "I understand words can be misinterpreted." Nope. She is disgusting.
ReplyDeleteHaven't had time to read all the comments but I'd just like to say that as far as I am concerned, you're right Gryphen. You should not have to watch or feel obligated to watch this woman perform her disgusting "reality" antics on TLC.
ReplyDeleteIn fact I would go so far as to say that TLC running this show tonight is disrespectful to the victims involved in the Tucson Massacre.
Sarah Palin did not pull that trigger. But the irresponsible vindictive violent vicious hate speech she has fomented over the past 2 years has contributed to the decay of our political speech system.
Like Charles Manson, she "inspired" the idea that it is ok to not only place someone in the crosshairs, but to take it the distance. And fire.
19 people shot
6 people dead
Is Sarah happy now?
I hope the iceberg is still coming. I don't trust that even something like this is going to shut her down - and like many decent Americans, I want her GONE from the political arena.
So Gryph - enjoy your evening. We have a couple at Palingates who will liveblog the last episode - they've done it all along and have volunteered to do it so other's can take a pass.
Out of respect for the victims of the Domestic Terrorist Attack - I agree.
There are looking for a public defender for the shooter. Van Flein? Miller?
ReplyDeleteWill be interesting to see what they find on his computer.
I've told you for over a year she's done....and she is.
ReplyDeleteBut not because of this.
Stick a fork in her..even the traditional conservative rags are turning on her..http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1345460/Sarah-Palin-sheriff-Clarence-Dupnik-blames-political-vitriol-Arizona-shooting.html
ReplyDeleteWell said. You made the right decision in my opinion, and I think many others will support you, too.
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin is self-destructing before our very eyes... unfortunately she's leaving a wake of destruction behind her.
anon@3:14 - on the off chance that this website was set up prior to 1/8/11, I have given the info to the local Phoenix FBI field office.
ReplyDeletePalingates has been notifying authorities all day of various threat postures. The more you do it, the easier it becomes.
We're done with this violence.
Tell Sarah Palin: Violent threats have consequences
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin has a special responsibility and opportunity in the wake of the attempted assassination of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. For it was Sarah Palin and Sarah Palin alone who earlier put the crosshairs of a gun on Rep. Giffords. And so far, Palin's response has been Facebook prayers for the victims and an official denial that her widely distributed map involved gun sights at all. This is obscene duplicity at best.
Let us be clear. We do not know why the shooter targeted Rep. Giffords. Sarah Palin did not arm him or pull the trigger. We do not know if the shooter admired, loathed or ignored Sarah Palin. We will eventually know, and that will be a different accounting.
But only Sarah Palin put 20 Democratic members of Congress in her crosshairs, and only Sarah Palin bragged that 18 are now gone, leaving Rep. Giffords and Rep. Nick Rahall of West Virginia.
Someone has to say it. There has been an astonishing acceleration of violent right wing rhetoric. At the same time, the mainstream media has come to accept armed revolution (second amendment remedies) and violence as legitimate political discourse instead of calling it out as behavior that crosses a very dangerous line. In the past week alone, incendiary devices were received at the offices of the Democratic Secretary of Homeland Security and the Democratic Governor of Maryland.
This is what Sarah Palin and others like her have wrought with their violent and vitriolic rhetoric that literally places gun sights on people who don't agree with their extreme views.
http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/palin_violence/?r=6816&id=14885-2741734-yaxkorx
See how Sarah's fb page is edited.
ReplyDeletehttp://obamalondon.blogspot.com/2011/01/inexplicable-edits-on-sarah-palins.html
Really interesting.
Sarah's whole national persona - from the moment she stepped onto the stage the night of her VP nomination speech - has been styled as an instigator inciting others to action. Best case, she's the sneering back seat driver. But it was a one-trick schtick, no substance, no bonafides, no successful record of governance, leadership or activism.
ReplyDeleteWho will want to be associated with more of that?
Leaves her looks for the fanboys, and the writing's on the wall.
She's not past her sell-by date, like we thought she'd be.
Her toxic contents have proven lethal. If she's not recalled, the market will take care of the rest.
From Twitter:
ReplyDeleteTrying to pass off target bullseyes as surveyor marks is like saying the swastika on a synagogue is an ancient Indian symbol @sarahpalinusa about 5 hours ago
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Does anyone doubt Palin was hoping someone
would attack or kill Joe McGinniss? Any doubt
she was hoping something would happen to
President Obama? That is all she does, that is
her MO. That is all she has to offer--HATE. She
is a freaking psycho.
Why is the media still sucking at her withered
teat & asking her when she is going to announce
if she'll run for president? Why legitimize her?
Totally understand your being unable to stomach Snowdrift Snooki tonight. Don't know how you do it at all!
ReplyDeleteDateline is doing a good job on their special covering the Tucson story. RIP Christine Greene, so sad.
On the gun sight/surveyor's symbol dustup - what a bunch of BS! It doesn't make sense, even for a dimwit like $P! And to let RAM speak for her instead of choosing to speak for herself appears very cowardly, IMHO. If she had a brain and any compassion (or if she cared about anyone besides SP), she would have recognized the perfect opportunity to rise above the partisan ugliness and start the healing process.
"Gasman said...
ReplyDeleteEvery future appearance that Palin makes anywhere, she should be confronted with pictures of the victims of yesterday's massacre. Palin should be forced to look into the smiling face of Christina Taylor Green at every book signing or every political rally she ever appears at, for the rest of her life."
Please, take it a step further and everywhere Palin speaks have posters made up of the smiling young girl and have the crosshairs over her face. Title it "Mission Accomplished".
Palin sure did accomplish what she set out to do.
Gryphen, I saw your Tweet earlier with the short message about Christina Green. Maybe we should log on and send that same message EVERY DAY. It should be a constant reminder.
ReplyDeleteAnd what will little Piper think when she goes onto the internet someday and reads about what Her Mom's words were responsible for.
She can scrub all the FB pages she wants... it won't change the REAL History pages of her Mom's participation. How will Piper feel then..?
Here is a good story in the words of Her Grandfather (MLB_Mgr,Dallas Green) of little 9yo Christina Green.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/09/2011-01-09_christina_taylor_greens_grandfather_exmets__yankees_manager_dallas_green_devasta.html
I saw somebody else use this name for WGE last night on PG. I hope it sticks and follows her. " Sniper Sarah"
Well said, G. Can't say I blame you one bit.
ReplyDeleteWe have made fun of her because to take her seriously means we really had to look at where our country has gone to. We are now forced to look at that. The picture is a very sad one.
My hope is that out of the ashes of this tragedy, some good comes. If that good is SP is marginalized, I'm all for that.
It's so sad it had to come to this, isn't it?
Peace to all who visit this site.
I was watching SP's facebook page and when ever any negative comments about her appear, they are removed within seconds. It's amazing!
ReplyDeleteNo need to say anything about Palin's wretched excuse for a propaganda machine which is her reality show.
ReplyDeleteToday the Beltway Media spent considerable time trying to insulate Palin and her map from any responsibility for the tragedy. Unfortunately no matter what they try the damage is done, too many people can put 2 and 2 together and figure it out for themselves. CNN especially was horrid in the non-stop efforts to protect her and it was absolutely disgusting to watch. Throw in a sitting Senator, Lamar Alexander, trying to protect Palin and tut-tut people who understand the link between her hate and the actions yesterday and you can understand why this country is standing on the abyss of a becoming a banana republic.
What's that thing rightwingers and Palin always say, something about taking responsibility for your actions? I guess that doesn't apply to them because they've been playing hot potato all day trying to make sure they don't get burnt by this. I simply can't believe that American voters put these people back in the majority in the House. Already they've broken over 8 of their promises, I hope the voters are watching.
read about a Giffords intern who may have saved her life.
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You wondered how Sheriff Dupnick could have gotten elected in AZ. The answer is Tucson. I used to live in Tucson. It's much more diverse and open-minded than other parts of the state. Compare him with Maricopa County's sheriff, Arpaio!
ReplyDeleteIt'll all come out in the wash....some loads have a longer spin cycle but "someone" will rightfully be hung out to dry!
ReplyDeleteThe fact of the matter is, every time Sarah Palin opens her mouth she says something inflammatory and irresponsible. There's no other type of rhetoric she can offer, or wants to offer. So yes, she is finished. Her cult will continue to defend her, but she's done. Everything she says now will be scrutinized and the effect of her words will be examined and taken seriously. Finally. And bravo to you for not tweeting her piece of shit show tonight.
ReplyDeleteSo this is how hatred destroys itself.
ReplyDeleteIt's ten years too late.
Just posted a note on Palin's FB page simply asking if she isn't responsible for this tragedy then why the need to remove every single negative comment. I posted it at 7:57pm CST. It was gone by 7:59.
ReplyDeleteSomebody is definitely in crisis mode...
CNN, John King, David Gergen - what would they do without Sarah Palin? They LOVE her. She essentially provides them with a political narrative that sells. Without her, political coverage is just plain boring.
ReplyDeleteSarah = $$$ in CNN's pockets.
I agree, reprehensible coverage. And look at their web homepage; TWO separate links scolding all of us for daring to connect her with this tragedy.
I say this back to them: HOW DARE YOU? How dare you not scrutinize every aspect of this woman's life? How dare you cynically use her for your own commercial purposes? And how dare you tell any of us what we are allowed to think?
Party's over, CNN.
Gryphen,
ReplyDelete@WestWingReport posted this tweet today:
http://twitter.com/WestWingReport/status/24253849732644865
No officlal word yet - but WWR hears President Obama may travel to Arizona. Earlier today he cancelled Tuesday's New York trip.
about 2 hours ago via web
Retweeted by 10 people
Anonymous @3:58 is right. Nothing will be the same after yesterday.
I hope President Obama goes to Arizona and convinces everyone, right or left, supporter or hater, that this has to stop.
It's impossible for any rational American to condone this shocking & senseless act. Americans rally together after tragedy; witness LBJ's 1964 landslide victory, post-9/11 America. We will rally on the side of civil public discussion & disagreement, which will by definition leave Palin on the outside looking in.
NOW, will the secret-keepers of Wasilla PLEASE have the courage to speak the Truth about Sarah Palin's history? This is a golden opportunity put to rest the most horrific era of U.S. political discourse in modern history, unleashed by John McCain in August of 2008. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteI woke up last night and my thoughts went to this horrible event. I have daughters, I remember when they were nine years old and their delight in horses, friends and life. I remember when they began asking questions about their futures and I became so sad thinking about the parents of this beautiful nine-year-old daughter and how they will never have those conversations with their her. I am so mad! I am so heartbroken for our country. I am so over Sarah Palin. I will never speak her name again.
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin map put Giffords 'in crosshairs'
ReplyDeleteOne theory about the gunman's motivation is that Gabrielle Giffords was featured on Sarah Palin's infamous "crosshairs" map, which targeted legislators who voted for Obama's healthcare bill. At the time, it was criticised as an incitement to violence.
Giffords, a third-term legislator, supported Obama's healthcare reform bill. This earned her a place on the map, posted on the internet by the former Republican vice-presidential candidate's Political Action Committee, that literally put Democrats in the crosshairs last spring after the bill passed.
"Don't retreat, instead - RELOAD!" was how Palin introduced the map to her Twitter followers. Days later, a vandal smashed the glass door of Giffords' Tucson office. Giffords' father told the New York Post that members of the Tea Party - the Republican party offshoot - "threatened" his daughter.
Giffords' Tea Party opponent in the 2010 election, Jesse Kelly, went even further with the violent rhetoric. Kelly's campaign held an event called "Get on Target for Victory in November." Description: "Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly."
Giffords' shooting underscores the fact that, as US commentator Matt Yglesias said, "gun imagery and electoral politics don't mix".
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/news/US-congresswoman-shot-in-gun.6684426.jp
"Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteJust posted a note on Palin's FB page simply asking if she isn't responsible for this tragedy then why the need to remove every single negative comment. I posted it at 7:57pm CST. It was gone by 7:59.
Somebody is definitely in crisis mode...
5:02 PM"
Beautiful. Methinks someone can't handle
the truth.
Anon @5:02. I saw your post on FB. They are working hard. This must go on for hours.
ReplyDeleteHas she said anything more?
ReplyDeleteSo her response to this horrible act was to post a tepid "regrets" message on her Facebook page, and allow a deranged spokesperson to babble excuses and counter-accusations for her?
Is that her total response?
Truly, has she been silent? Unbelievable.
One of the worst things I read today was Palin distancing herself from the gun sight cross hairs on her snuff map. It is what it is, not surveyor targets. Own it or just shut up. Palin has always portrayed herself as a hunter in every aspect. She has always used words associated with guns and now she is a map surveyor? That's what she wants us to believe? What was Sarah Palin's Alaska about? I did not see her with surveying equipment or maps.
ReplyDeleteWe eat therefore we hunt. When you hunt you use cross hairs. When you look at Palin’s snuff map she uses blood red cross hairs to show the congressional seats that are retiring signaling that those targets has been neutralized.
This was just posted and I thought you'd like to see what some of these RWNJ's actually sound like. The hatred is beyond belief:
ReplyDeletehttp://viletweets.com/
anonymous 5:02 How many times can you post such a message before being unfriended? I wonder if it's possible to overwhelm the censors. (I'll be the last person still not on Facebook.)
ReplyDeleteIf she doesn't go to jail for fraud, hate speech, tax evasion or something, she will definitely be going bankrupt. She would have been better off, facing Troopergate and her fellow Alaskans, instead of not blinking and saying "yes" to McCain; now, she has the whole world viewing her shenanigans/dysfunction.
ReplyDeleteI have wanted to comment but have really just been trying to process all this traumatic news. I agree with you 100% Gryphen that you should shun her show. We need to send a clear message that we no longer wnt to see Sarah Palin on tv, radio, internet, etc. That she is shunned because she can't participate in Democracy in an adult way. I have so much more I'd like to say, but this event has just left me deeply saddened and rather speechless. I do like to listen to the updates of that AZ Sheriff though. He is brave and forthright in the things he says. Listening to him is very cathartic.
ReplyDeletei am also encouraged by the outpouring of concern and sympathy from people in AZ and around the country. I hope more Americans will come out firmly against hate speech and ramped up rhetoric. We can't continue in this environment without more tragedies. Let's hope we as a nation wake up and say that's it.
That is probably the best statement regarding Palin and this tragedy that her rhetoric YES did influence.
ReplyDeleteI am as sick about this as your writing shows you are.
Thank You
I've been eating all the leftover Christmas chocolates today. Perhaps, I should switch to wine... What a very sad state of affairs!!
ReplyDeleteWell, my son and I watched some of the finals before nearly falling asleep. He points out that the caribou antlers, Sarah mounted are on the plaque backward. Somehow that seems like the icon for the whole roadshow!
ReplyDeleteI agree with everyone who says that Palin is done. I can't see the Teflon working this time. And she or anyone in the family sure can't relocate to Arizona now - that will just continue to cement her connection to this tragedy over and over.
ReplyDeleteGryphen, I've appreciated all that you have done with this blog, to communicate the real Sarah Palin.
Any among the rabid right who have a shred of decency will probably eventually realize the significance of the lack of compassion expressed by Sarah and so many other leaders of the RepoBaggers for the suffering of innocents yesterday.
ReplyDeleteWhere is Sarah's condemnation of violent assassination and collateral murder, if she in fact sees that as worthy of condemnation of the act, and compassion for the wounded and the families of the dead.
How many self described Christian conservatives can ignore her silence?
And if they do how can they and Sarah retain any credibility of righteousness.
Sarah's political future is being killed by her own silence, her won stone cold hate filled heart.
Speaking of Sarah's daughters where is their Twitty compassion.
ReplyDeleteBristol is a spokes person for a company that might expect their professional "face" to make a professional statement.
After all yesterday was, I believe the first time in American history that a federal legislator was almost assassinated, and was certainly a historically black day when coupled with the assassination of a Federal Judge.
Yesterday was an historic day of violence in this country, again.
I would not be surprised if many businesses have words of condolences on their web sights by Monday night and some may run spots speaking out against this type of violence.
But Palin's two wanna be a star daughters have neither the compassion nor common sense to at least show sympathy and speak out against violent acts and they harm they do.
Even Todd twits when he is angry enough. Speak Todd.
Speak Palins. Or forever hold your peace.
Gryphen -- Please let your readers know that it is possible to post on SP Facebook page discussions, even if you aren't a friend. I went over and vented, managed four well-constructed comments before I was banished. I suggest anyone with the facebook account go over and tell them what you think. Some of the p-bots engage, but it is very clear that their love for their Queen is shaken.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad you aren't watching. I hope you and your blogger friends will be proactive and use your considerable combined strength to bring about some legislative changes to prevent this from ever happening again. I have two daughters and two granddaughters myself. I feel heartbroken and angry.
ReplyDelete@3:12 PM:
ReplyDeleteI sincerely hope you are correct about there being enough legal foundations to bring a civil lawsuit against Palin. Since the standards are much lower than a criminal charge and people sue for all sorts of things these days, perhaps you are right.
I do believe that Palin's political career is over, especially since the Republican party seemed to be making a concerted effort to distance themselves from her even before this happened. They will never permit someone with that kind of horrific event connected with their name to represent them in any major political campaign.
Perhaps a major lawsuit against her, even if it is not won, might finally be enough to convince the hatemongers on radio and television to dial back their nastiness. For people like Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter and others who make an exceptional living by being hateful, only the threat of large monetary damages would be enough to convince them to tone down the vitriol.
It is sad beyond words that it took the death of a child and five others to finally bring us to this point.
http://www.rifle-scope-guide.com/rifle-scopes-reticles/
ReplyDeleteHasn't Palin been MIA for a while now?
ReplyDeleteWhen is the last time she was actually seen, or even heard?
Where IS she?!
2:58 Amen
ReplyDeleteAurora
" BanditBasheert said...
ReplyDeleteThis was just posted and I thought you'd like to see what some of these RWNJ's actually sound like. The hatred is beyond belief:
http://viletweets.com/
5:21 PM"
In the good old days we could see people
thrown into lions dens, see public executions,
see animals fight, stone people, and on and
on. It is as though that innate brutality has been
repressed too long & is coming out on the internet,
and town hall meetings. People are savages.
People have always been savages.
One of my favorite quotes is by Oscar Wilde:--
when God created man, he overestimated
his ability.
We are worse than dumb animals. We are
not evolving forward, we are going backwards.
5:27 - I unfriended myself then "liked" SP again to repost a second comment. They didn't have a chance to ditch me.
ReplyDeleteBut really, how stupid are these people? Has the Palin camp never heard of screen shots? By deleting every remotely negative comment, Palin is actually giving the media something to report on. Innocent (mentally stable) people have nothing to hide.
Sarah Palin is as guilty of this attempted murder of a congressperson and the murder of the other people as the get away driver of a bank robbery when someone was killed.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone seen the withered queen since she
ReplyDeletedisappeared for the holidays? Is she still in
hiding? If so, does that mean the rumors of
plastic surgery are true? When has palin EVER
not stuck her face in front of a camera?
G, glad you're not watching the filth. Hope you're right and she's finished. Please, God, for the sake of "real America" and those of us who love our freedoms.
ReplyDeleteWell said Gryphen. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteI hope nobody watches tonight.
Just a note to all the "survey" symbol defenders. Readjusting my theodolite as we speak. Tried to reload but couldn't seem to make any progress with that! No matter which angle I approach from it still comes up that the criminals responsible for the recent chain of events need to be held up to the light of investigation and prosecution.
ReplyDeleteThis is what Palin said a couple days ago on the Larua Ingrahm show, with more chilling rhetoric ending in "we want that done today". We need to find out if the shooter heard this show!
ReplyDeleteOn the GOP's need to stand firm: "What the American public wants to see right now..is not so much the idea of compromise but drawing some lines in the sand and warning these newly elected and re-elected Congressmen and women and Senators that we expect them to adhere to the will of the people, whether it comes to repealing ObamaCare, whether it comes to not raising the debt ceiling, whether it comes to securing our borders. We want some lines drawn in the sand and we want that done today."
Why the right should tone it down, including Sarah Palin and her bots.
ReplyDeleteThis is not good for America. Both side of the political Isle should tone down the rhetoric during their campaigns.
See what happens when politicians use rhetoric to win the office.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_y-gLm9Hrw&feature=player_embedded#!
The thing about the right's response to this is that they can go on TV as much as they want to deny this, but pretty, much, anyone with a quarter of a brain who knows about this assassination attempt and also hears that Sarah Palin put a target on her, figuratively, on a website, will hold Sarah responsible for this. No matter what the pundits say.
ReplyDeleteSomeone, in attempting to take the blame off of Sarah compared this to the Kennedy assassination. Which is fitting. Little known fact: Kennedy had evil rhetoric spewed at him that rivals what has been said to Obama. (Really, the stuff aimed at Barack Obama is worse, but I'm grading on a curve, because the rhetoric was so much more civil then, so the difference is greater).
What is striking though is how people are still defending her. I can't believe it. Personally, I think she's not done. I don't know if these people who are commenting are paid -- they certainly seem pretty organized -- but the fact that so many people are still speaking out for her means she can still be counted on to be a draw for double digits in a primary. It just adds to her: I'm a victim of the left and media mystique.
Facebook gems:
ReplyDeleteVanessa Stockwell The Sheriff of Pima County Clarence Dupnik should be fired. He’s using the tragic shooting of Rep. Giffords to further his own political agenda by making ridiculous insinuations suggesting the GOP, among others, is somehow responsible for this tragedy! Has anyone recently evaluated this Sherriff’s mental health?
Marty Hooper On Geraldo, the sheriff just blamed Sarah and Sharon Angle for the shooting, this man is completely out of control
Juanita Estrada The more rhetoric and falsehoods the left spins, just like Alex said, the more it strengthens our resolve to fight, oops cant say fight, to vote, promote, and support conservatives, and to expose the liberal liar media.
Carol Cornell Counterman Sarah I was very blessed blessed by watching your show on TLC. You are a true American! God bless you and your family!
Vanessa Stockwell I don’t even know how to fire a weapon, but after reading all these disgusting threats against my life, my family, my friends & my public representatives being made by these violent loons, I am seriously considering learning how to protect myself & my children!! Where’s the good Sherriff Dupnik??? Or does he only serve & protect certain people?
Yvon Sanscartier Anxiously awaiting Monday's Beck, O'Reilly and company. I hope the media doesn't get too spooked. Well maybe they will be docile for awhile but there is no need for them to apologize. One lunatic can't change what you stand for. Our prayers for the congresswoman and victims.
Lynda Thurman Keep up the good attitude and work ethics and most of all the love for your fellow country men.
Kyle Raccio Sarah you have got to come out and condemn the left for this vicious attack on you. This is beyond the pale.
DeDe Brooklyn “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” “Argue with neighbors, Get in their face!,” “I...f you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry.” “Punish your enemies” “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“ “I’m itching for a fight.” “Hand-to-hand combat”. -- (The words of Barack Hussein Obama)
XD at people saying the sheriff is EVIL for going against political correctness and correctly saying the gun rhetoric is coming from ONE party.
You guys are nutjobs.
Andrew Miller Sarah U are a great and strong willed person. i hope people Can see you are not responsible for this terrible tragedy and Kan see past their ignorance. MY DIsgrace has Come from these Kooks who think you are at fault.
God bless!
Vanessa Stockwell @Martha, I have no idea who these people are but I have never witnessed anything like this in my life. Its really sick!! I am worried about Gov Palin's safety as well as that of all Conservatives at this point. God help us.
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you are such a sad lot. Sarah will never accept responsibility for anything she says and does. She can't even keep a job. Words, like elections, have consequences and the lame excuse that 'those are surveyor marks, not crosshairs' is offensive. SP is the type who likes to fire up the crowd w/ her nasty incendiary remarks, but as long as a paycheck and more airtime follow, so what? No, she didn't pull the trigger in AZ, and maybe the shooter is a 'lone crazy', that doesn't mean that adult, aspiring leaders shouldn't be responsible for what they spew. You are all kool-aid drinking piteous people. And chastising the deputy for speaking the truth just shows how low you are all willing to go.
More facebook (sorry if this is a double post--I
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Lynda Thurman Keep up the good attitude and work ethics and most of all the love for your fellow country men.
Kyle Raccio Sarah you have got to come out and condemn the left for this vicious attack on you. This is beyond the pale.
DeDe Brooklyn “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” “Argue with neighbors, Get in their face!,” “I...f you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry.” “Punish your enemies” “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“ “I’m itching for a fight.” “Hand-to-hand combat”. -- (The words of Barack Hussein Obama)
XD at people saying the sheriff is EVIL for going against political correctness and correctly saying the gun rhetoric is coming from ONE party.
You guys are nutjobs.
Andrew Miller Sarah U are a great and strong willed person. i hope people Can see you are not responsible for this terrible tragedy and Kan see past their ignorance. MY DIsgrace has Come from these Kooks who think you are at fault.
God bless!
Vanessa Stockwell @Martha, I have no idea who these people are but I have never witnessed anything like this in my life. Its really sick!! I am worried about Gov Palin's safety as well as that of all Conservatives at this point. God help us.
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you are such a sad lot. Sarah will never accept responsibility for anything she says and does. She can't even keep a job. Words, like elections, have consequences and the lame excuse that 'those are surveyor marks, not crosshairs' is offensive. SP is the type who likes to fire up the crowd w/ her nasty incendiary remarks, but as long as a paycheck and more airtime follow, so what? No, she didn't pull the trigger in AZ, and maybe the shooter is a 'lone crazy', that doesn't mean that adult, aspiring leaders shouldn't be responsible for what they spew. You are all kool-aid drinking piteous people. And chastising the deputy for speaking the truth just shows how low you are all willing to go.
I wish I believed that Sarah's heart could be touched by yesterday's senseless tragedy, especially the death of the 9 year old girl. Sadly, she's given us no reason to believe that's possible. I hope I'm wrong.
ReplyDeleteEven her offer of condolence rings empty with its vagueness and absence of any condemnation of violence or awareness of the horrific nature of the shootings.
I pray that Sarah won't fade away quietly as a result of this event. She needs to be exposed for the fraud that she is, and those who promoted her and those who blindly followed her need to be held accountable.
I'm with you, Gryphen. Thanks for posting what so many of us are feeling.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't Sarah Palin have a small Daughter the little girl was interested in politics born on 911. Is Bristol still going to Arizonia to promote her Moms agenda.
ReplyDeleteMore facebook:
ReplyDeleteSincere condolences?????? PUH-LEEZE!!! Sarah "Reload" Palin, the person who couldn't finish her term as governor because the temptation of multi-million dollar speaking gigs, first class travel was far too tempting, has done NOTHING to improve the lives of anyone but herself! Because you have LIED and ENCOURAGED VIOLENCE, Palin has BLOOD on her hands!!! You can't hide behind the first amendment when committing a crime against the national security of the United States. Using cross hairs, not denouncing hate speech, Palin has violated federal law! May the God you pray to have mercy on your soul!
Don Dunkelberger My main fear is the Left will try and use this tragedy to paint this kook as a right wing kook, to soil the image of the right or pass new gun laws.
Juanita Estrada Funny how the left wing loons sitting in their basements in only their dirty underwear and T-shirts are monitoring Sarah's FB page and all the comments, they want to play gotcha, watch out for the left pretending to be tea party and posting garbage, yet they don't monitor any left wing pages or the left wing at all full of violence and hate. Got this from weirdo left winger Chris Weston who just tried to friend me. who has weirdo crazy people on "charge sarah palin" fb page and he left comment on Bristol Palin's note, he sounds like shooter and him could be friends, hate the world garbage
http://obamalondon.blogspot.com/2011/01/inexplicable-edits-on-sarah-palins.html
Walker Johnson http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2011/01/09/breaking-democrats-plotted-to-blame-tea-party-for-slaughter/
Why are there so many anonymous comments on this blog? I drop by and read around and truly enjoy myself, but I don't understand the anonymity. This is a question not a chastisement. Cletis
ReplyDeleteTalking about domestic terrorist. What do you call what she is promoting. And some how in her sick head she probably does not care as long as it keeps her name in the head lines. This what she promotes hatred.bigotry racism fear..all the time cashing in sad sad sad. She really needs to retreat .when a nine year old or any life is taken over senseless stupidity emotinal hype. Its time for soul searching that is someones child wife husband. Family member period. She should know she claims to love her family.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget:
ReplyDeleteAt a rally in 2008, referring to Obama, there were "supporters yelling 'terrorist' and 'kill him' until the McCain campaign ordered [Sarah Palin] to tone down the rhetoric."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/sarah-palin/3405336/Sarah-Palin-blamed-by-the-US-Secret-Service-for-death-threats-against-Barack-Obama.html
Even more Facebook:
ReplyDeleteJames York www.facebook.com/defendpalin. Former Governor Palin has taken more heat than any other conservative in recent memory. It is important to remember that there are a lot of loons out there who would love to hurt the Palin family. As we pray for the families of the victims of yesterday's terrible events, please also pray for the Palin family. God bless. Join us at www.facebook.com/defendpalin. The chorus is growing!
Tiffany Gayle Whitley ANY BODY WHO DOSEN'T LIKE SARAH PALIN IS A STUPID IDIOT!!! And you can take you stupid little comments about her and post them on a the Main and Biggest IDIOTS page which would be OBAOMA!! This is her page so dont bring the @#%$ over here!!!!!!!!!
Jen Stevens-Cartledge Vanessa, you are absolutely right... This is sick & only GOD can help us!!! In the mean time, we need to pray like we've never prayed before!!!!
Wake Fickey Sarah... It is shameful that so many people what to somehow blame you for this tragedy. Any one with half a brain knows that you would never instigate such violence. I hate that you have to deal with such idiotic behavior on a daily basis. The real scary part is, these uneducated, insecure liberals that have nothing better to do than blame you- are allowed to vote!
May God continue to bless you and your family. Keep on keeping on!
Krista N. Boley I can't beleive this is being put on sarah. If it was political, this guy wouldn't have shot and killed a sweet little nine year old child. There hasn't been any eveidence of a political agenda behind this. I think it is sad that this horrible tragedyis being used to push any political agenda esp. by the folks who are supose to be trying to figure out why exactly this happened.
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Blech. That is all I can read.
On the plus side, it is sort of like seeing her
stoned. People are lobbing these little verbal
rocks, and someone is jumping in to deflect
them. But she is still getting all dented. All
her fans know she is trash, even if they won't
admit it. They know, it is getting in. She is
the most uncool kid in class--she is the
snot eater.
Even more Facebook:
ReplyDeleteTiffany Gayle Whitley ANY BODY WHO DOSEN'T LIKE SARAH PALIN IS A STUPID IDIOT!!! And you can take you stupid little comments about her and post them on a the Main and Biggest IDIOTS page which would be OBAOMA!! This is her page so dont bring the @#%$ over here!!!!!!!!!
Jen Stevens-Cartledge Vanessa, you are absolutely right... This is sick & only GOD can help us!!! In the mean time, we need to pray like we've never prayed before!!!!
Wake Fickey Sarah... It is shameful that so many people what to somehow blame you for this tragedy. Any one with half a brain knows that you would never instigate such violence. I hate that you have to deal with such idiotic behavior on a daily basis. The real scary part is, these uneducated, insecure liberals that have nothing better to do than blame you- are allowed to vote!
May God continue to bless you and your family. Keep on keeping on!
Krista N. Boley I can't beleive this is being put on sarah. If it was political, this guy wouldn't have shot and killed a sweet little nine year old child. There hasn't been any eveidence of a political agenda behind this. I think it is sad that this horrible tragedyis being used to push any political agenda esp. by the folks who are supose to be trying to figure out why exactly this happened.
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Blech. That is all I can read.
On the plus side, it is sort of like seeing her
stoned. People are lobbing these little verbal
rocks, and someone is jumping in to deflect
them. But she is still getting all dented. All
her fans know she is trash, even if they won't
admit it. They know, it is getting in. She is
the most uncool kid in class--she is the
snot eater.
The right who are trying to run away from this rhetoric should be ashamed of themselves. They have incited the public with the anti-goverment rhetoric.
ReplyDeleteThis was posted by the shooter on his blog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1pjH5_msR4&feature=player_embedded to the tea party. He posted this on his blog.
www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2011/01/09/palin-aides-inane-bullseye-map-defense.html
ReplyDeleteGreat article about how stupid RAM's defense of the map is.
Cletis, it really doesn't matter what our names are, does it? Would that change anything about what we are writing?
ReplyDeleteBtw, Mr./Ms. Stump, not real sure that's your name anyway. That's fine by me. You certainly don't give any personal information about yourself on your blog. Again, fine by me.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous works just as well ;-).
"See what a real woman hero does, baggers? She stops violence instead of inciting it."
ReplyDelete(posted at HuffPo after news of a woman, while wounded, lunging to stop shooter's reloading...)
Aurora
Does anyone doubt Palin was hoping someone
ReplyDeletewould attack or kill Joe McGinniss? Any doubt
she was hoping something would happen to
President Obama? That is all she does, that is
her MO. That is all she has to offer--HATE. She
is a freaking psycho.
I absolutely thought Sarah Palin was trying to incite violence against President Obama during her hate rallies in 2008.
"Cletis L. Stump said...
ReplyDeleteWhy are there so many anonymous comments on this blog? I drop by and read around and truly enjoy myself, but I don't understand the anonymity. This is a question not a chastisement. Cletis
7:02 PM"
I never bother logging in--I'm using G Chrome,
because I can't get IM on IE, and my Blogger
password is saved on IE & I can't remember what
it is & I never got around to changing it.
Not sure if you've seen this, but it's a good one to mark for the archives.
ReplyDeletehttp://obamalondon.blogspot.com/2011/01/inexplicable-edits-on-sarah-palins.html
It shows FB postings and edits through out the day.
I watched 30 seconds of SPA and in that 30 seconds SP managed to bitch about the media and make a victim of herself and her kids and totally shucked off any responsibility for agreeing to run for vice president.
ReplyDeleteIt's here where investigative journalism picks up where the corporate monopoly media left off. Reading the garbage posted by ilks like Sarah Palin must be read, must be deciphered and must be brought into the light. Yes, even though folks like Palin or Governor Jan Brewer are getting on their knees and praying to their Sky-Spook (they are so perverted), they will NOT address the issue. And that issue? Tighter control on firearms.
ReplyDeleteFolks who knew Jared Loughlin knew he was mentally ill. And with tighter gun control, people like Jared Loughner would have been more scrutinized, but with dirtwads like Brewer who embraces the Second...no hides behind, can say there was nothing she could do. Now she can. Allow people to buy firearms, but add a little more scrutiny.
This has been a difficult weekend for our nation and particularly for those of us in Tucson. This senseless act is so incomprehensible that it's even hard to imagine something this horrific could happen so close to home and touch many of us personally.
ReplyDeleteSeveral of us spent time today trying to come to a place of peace but it was difficult. I've worked through the anger and am in a place of numbness and just needing to retreat a bit.
Gryph...you state 'Today we need to mourn, and tomorrow hopefully, we begin to heal'. I fervently hope that part of that healing is that all of us step back and take a look at our own language, our own rhetoric and make a supreme effort to mend the divisions that this country has suffered for the past 10 years. We need to take the first step here and speak with respect, exercise tolerance when confronted with views other than our own and carry a torch for peace.
I am done speaking about Palin. I find when I talk about her or think about what she has brought to our discourse I am saddened and angered. Peace to you all.
For a mere $29.95, you can purchase DVDs of the entire season.
ReplyDeleteWhy does it take a public homicidal act to stir people's emotions when innocent people including children are killed everyday in this country arbitrarily or as bystanders? It's kind of offensive to deem certain people has having more value and thats what it sounds like you are doing here.
ReplyDeleteOn the 8th a disturbed man finally opened fire on a woman whom he had in his crosshairs for several years. This is textbook for psychopathic behavior. Psycho breaks take time to fester, then BAM! Trust me, I've been there. Never to the murderous level as I could never aim and kill anyone but I have been so mentally "exhausted" that I've doing things I regret.
You're right about it not making a difference to the postings whether we identify ourselves or not, but I really enjoy reading comments written by people I recognize from other times...not that I know them or anything, but in a way I feel like I do. It's nice to see them again when they come back. It's a small connection that I appreciate. (I actually was lucky enough to meet a few of them at the rally in Washington...including Gryphen and Malia Littman.)
ReplyDeleteYes, Gryphen, I truly believe too that SP's career is finished. I believe she's going to have a hard time finding work, and, whoever does hires her will lose their credibility and communal respect. No one would want to touch her now. Remember when Meg Stapleton once said that the world was Sarah's oyster, or some such thing like that? - meaning she had monetary offers to speak or try anything she wanted after her resignation.
ReplyDeleteSarah can't get away with her cutesy folksy accent and her fake "Shirley Temple" (daddy's little girl) airs. That sickening syrupy stategy will not go over any more with the public, especially in light of this tragedy, and a little girl's life lost. Now she's forced to have to do some soul-searching and show some sombreness, seriousness, maturity.
She can never go back to those lucrative opportunity days.
She may get so desperate, she'll have to sell her "baby" story.
Gryph: I can not begin to imagine how heartsick you must be, taking in and moderating this whole site.
ReplyDeleteI would not burden you afresh, except this must be seen and circulated:
http://obamalondon.blogspot.com/2011/01/inexplicable-edits-on-sarah-palins.html
a report from overseas on the editorial policies of SP.
Bless you, dear man.
Aurora
ps to Cletis: I can't figure out how to sign my name unless I remember to do it here in the body of the post, as I do not have a URL or a Google acct.
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"Cletis L. Stump said...
ReplyDeleteWhy are there so many anonymous comments on this blog? I drop by and read around and truly enjoy myself, but I don't understand the anonymity. This is a question not a chastisement. Cletis
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I don't have a google account or anything else to click other then Anonymous. Besides, clicking Anonymous is easier. Click, click. Done. Versus typing name, etc.
Pretty lame after all it's only a few seconds (if I had an account) but there it is.
If you will, dearie, remind us of the moment of silence tomorrow? How fab would it be if the Inter-tubes went still for that time, as well.
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Someone please post a video with two important, connected moments juxtaposed to each other.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7046bo92a4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAG46NFXdGk
http://studentactivism.net/2011/01/09/sarah-palin-scrubs-rep-giffords-criticism-from-facebook/
ReplyDeleteFacts.
Apparently TLC is pulling the plug on SPA...heh, "SPA," that about sums her up.
ReplyDeletePossibly not Bristol but appears to be someone close to her and defending her, as opposed to someone messing with her. A series of Twitters, as someone noted earlier.
ReplyDelete“F#ck u, asshole!”
Reported->>”@MattKap20: I wonder how SarahPalinUSA would feel if someone put a crosshair on @bristol_palin ‘s new house.
I also wonder how @SarahPalinUSA would feel if her youngest daughter or @bristol_palin were "targeted" by some lunatic harpy.
about 6 hours ago via Chromed Bird
@kerrence the same way your parents would feel, bitch!
3 minutes ago via web in reply to kerrence
oh, @bristol_palin just called me a bitch. such perspicacity from someone who had to fuck her way into celebrity.
about 4 hours ago via Chromed Bird
Bristol will be making a paid appearance in California. The Dancing With The Stars celebrity and teen role model will be promoting good choices and the benefits of a Christian lifestyle.
Lovefest 9
Saturday, February 12, 2011
Our Savior Lutheran Church, Arcadia, CA
http://www.lovefestoslc.com/
Email:lovefest@oslcarcadia.org
Phone:626-447-7690
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A screenshot of one of Sarah Palin's defenders. It's too rude to write out here.
http://i55.tinypic.com/2yoyihf.jpg
Nothing different will happen with Sarah Palin. Americans watched her show tonight. We prove out over and over that the unacceptable will be accepted.
Is there a possibility that Facebook is also culpable because they posted the target imagery for her? If so, Sarah's page should be shut down for breaking the rules of the website.
ReplyDeleteSarah is DELUSIONAL.
ReplyDeleteLike many Republicans, she remakes the reality around her to fit her self-vision. She can place cross-hairs on a map with 20 names and brag a few months later about her bulleyes being 90% effective (the only two congress-critters left were Giffords and a Rep. in WV).
Suddenly everybody is remembering all her talk about shooting and reloading(*) to shoot again... and just as suddenly those aren't cross-hairs, those aren't bulleyes, those are stray surveyors' marks affixed by some anonymous graphics student somewhere else and have nothing to do with Sarah.
Words have consequences for everybody else.
The media will cycle through this and run on to other stories, dragging viewer's attention with them. When it is time to package up a President, they'll be ready to push her forward again. They won't care if she is competent, or even sane, or if the Chatty Cathy string is hopelessly tangled, if they can sell the pretty package for top advertising dollar.
With the escalation in violence and militancy, in 2 years, this might be normal politics.
Sarah will run. God told her she was anointed to lead. The priestlings are ambitious, but not as ambitious as she is.
(*) The only reason the killer didn't reload, is that when he pulled out the second clip, a WOMAN HE HAD WOUNDED got up and grabbed it away from him! She must have thought she was already dead, or shock cocooned her from the pain, to even be able to move like that. When he pulled out the third clip, it sproinged and 2 men tackled him. Yeah, he sure took Palin's mantra to heart. How many more would he have killed if he'd have managed to reload?
So Cletis Stump is your real name??
ReplyDeleteCletis: I think people sign in here as "anonymous" because the other choices seem confusing. I know they did for me for many months. As you did, just opt for the "Name/URL" choice, and type in your screen name of choice. There is no requirement to put in a "URL". My screen name is "Heidi3", and I am known as that on several blogs. It's not my full real name of course, but it appears you have chosen to use yours. In other words, it's very simple to not opt for "anonymous", but many people prefer to.
ReplyDeleteGryph: Great, and necessary, choice to boycott the final TV show. At this point, I don't think anyone here can bear the thought of looking at Palin's face or hearing her patently contrived "screech".
Hey Gryphen, I read this comment at the Alaska Dailey News. You got kicked out of SP's book signing line just for smiling.
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Taloowah Today 08:27 PM
Do you think Sarah would have Todd kick me out of her book signing if she saw that I was wearing a t-shirt of her face with a "surveyor's symbol" over it? .
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You ALL know the answer to that, You betcha!
Regarding those cross hairs. Isn't that the same tactic that was used by the anti-abortion crusaders to target doctors? Or does my memory trick me? Didn't they put out posters with the pictures and personal data of abortion providers marked with gunsights or some similar mark whenever one was killed? How can they say this was inadvertant/surveyor's mark or whatever? It's been used before. Hasn't it? Seems like it worked then too.
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