Monday, February 21, 2011

In case Mudflats is down, and you can't gain access, here is the last post.

Jeanne said that she is having trouble with Mudflats, as it keeps getting shut down from too much traffic, so she asked me to post this on IM for her:

Say it Ain't So, Joe! Co-Author of Leaked Palin Book Speaks Out


Mudflats Friends:

When I first appeared on Jeanne’s groundbreaking pages well over one year ago, I wrote about participating in the eBay auction to buy a meal with Sarah Palin to benefit a worthy veterans’ charity. A short time later, after losing that auction to what looked like a rigged bid, I then offered through Mudflats an additional $200,000 for that same charity if Sarah would answer civil question over a second meal, on the record, with the likes of Jeanne, Rachel Maddow, Shannyn Moore, and Keith Olbermann.

While I waited in vain for an answer from your ex-governor, I managed to contact Frank Bailey and his wonderful wife Neen. Over fourteen months ago, after substantive dialogue, we decided to pursue a memoir. Two months later, I realized I needed Jeanne Devon to help me navigate the million details of Alaskan politics and personalities. I invited (actually, demanded) she join the team. Frank balked at first. After all, he's conservative and she's a liberal blogger. I insisted they meet or I'd walk away from the project. Well, no surprise, he embraced her inclusion after only a second cup of coffee.

For over a year—that’s right, friends, over a year—we worked in silence. We spent countless hours (on my end, upwards of 70 hours per week) constructing what we believed was an important book, based on documented truth. Within the last month, we finished a marketable draft. Not a final draft--we anticipate changes, both additions and deletions--but something that our agent believed would result in substantial interest in the publishing world. You can imagine our joy.

Then the manuscript was sent out, illegally, to the media. Why? Good question (Jeanne and I have discussed writing-up this disturbing story-behind-the-story with its ethics be damned. New Yorker, are you interested? Rolling Stone?).

With permission from my legal team, Jeanne and I decided to post what is known as a Cease and Desist order. And while there are many other unnamed parties who have engaged in unethical behavior and violated copyright law (you should be ashamed of yourselves), this is the most shocking.

What is written below includes only part of what we sent to this now-officially-named individual, but is, I believe, self-explanatory (a similar letter is going out to those we have identified as also unlawfully reproducing portions of our work). I guess you can say we are not rolling over, and for those who ignore law and morality, we are not going away:

BONFANTE STEINBECK, A PROFESSIONAL LAW CORPORATION
February 20, 2011
SENDER INFORMATION:
Ken Morris, Frank Bailey and Jeanne Devon

RECIPIENT INFORMATION:
Joe McGinniss

RE: COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT
Dear Sir:
I write on behalf of Ken Morris, Frank Bailey and Jeanne Devon (collectively, the “Copyright
Owners”). The Copyright Owners are co-owners of the copyright in the unpublished manuscript
entitled “Blind Allegiance to Sarah Palin: A Memoir of our Tumultuous Years” (the “Work”).
Between February 16, 2011 and February 18, 2011 you were the recipient of an unlawfully
distributed version of the Work. Although you knew that the Work was (i) distributed to you in
strict confidence, and (ii) an unpublished manuscript, you choose to unlawfully distribute the
Work to multiple news outlets, bloggers, political activists, and any one else you felt might be
interested.

As a result of your actions, hundreds of articles and blogs have been published detailing the
Work. Some of the publications have summarized the Work in great detail, and others have
reproduced the Work’s content verbatim. As an author, you are well aware that your actions have
significantly impaired the Copyright Owners ability to market the book....

...The Copyright Owners believe your actions were done with the single intent of destroying the
marketability of the Work. It is no secret that you are writing your own “tell-all” book about
Sarah Palin. By releasing the Work prior to publication, you have limited the actual interest in
the Work and thereby salvaged the marketability of your own book. This matter appears to be no
more than that of a jealous author sabotaging a competitor via unlawful and unscrupulous means.

The Copyright Owners are currently reviewing their legal options and I can assure this is not the
last time you will hear from them. Besides showing an utter lack of professionalism, you have,
at a minimum, willfully caused significant damages by engaging in unfair competition and
violations of copyright law. In order to minimize the damages caused by your actions, the
Copyright Owners hereby demand that you cease and desist from distributing any portion of the
Work. Additionally, the Copyright Owners demand that you provide a full list of the parties to
whom you distributed the Work.

This letter is not intended as, and may not be construed to be, a complete recitation of the facts or
circumstances connected with this matter. Furthermore, any statement contained in this letter is
not intended as, and may not be construed to be, a waiver or relinquishment of any of the
Copyright Owners’ rights or remedies under law, all of which the Copyright Owners hereby
expressly reserve.

Please feel free to contact me to discuss this matter further.
Sincerely,
Dean M. Steinbeck

(I am always ready to help my friends so I am fine with posting this here. However I will keep my opinion of this situation, and who is or is not to blame, to myself for the time being.  You all are free to discuss it in the comments section of course, but don't bother asking me for a response.  Thanks for your understanding.)

127 comments:

  1. Anonymous11:27 AM

    Nothing I am about to say amounts to unqualified support of Joe McG. I have the greatest respect for Jeanne, but I think publishing this C & D letter is a major mistake and a result of questionable legal advice.

    As a retired lawyer myself, let me say, you guys need a decent lawyer.

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  2. Anonymous11:28 AM

    I think you guys have been had by a hacker spoofing Joe McGinniss and others' email accounts.

    Check what Wonkette says in their latest article.
    http://wonkette.com/438769/lea...

    Money quote: "On the other hand, it appears this book has been leaked to Wonkette at least twice, by somebody with a South African e-mail address. "

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  3. Anonymous11:33 AM

    I read this article this morning on mudflats and I was going to ask you, but it got too busy at work. So...Hmmm. I'll just comment.

    JM's book is coming out and may not sell as many books now as one in which the author has intimate knowledge of the subject. But, if the book got leaked, it's a chance that book may not sell as many copies.

    Just sayin'

    TeeHee
    Cheryl.

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  4. Anonymous11:40 AM

    Ms Devon,

    I don't understand why you/team would not let this through moderation:

    "Joe McGinnis would not have done this. AKM, Mr. Bailey, and Mr. Morris, your anger is justified, but misdirected. Who benefits from this dissention and disgrace of character? Someone, very talented and well-funded is behind this. Everyone dissing Mr. McGinnis and vowing not to buy his book, is music to Sarah and her puppetmasters’ ears. Turning authors, who are penning negative books about Sarah Palin, against each other is just what they want to happen. Please don’t take an advisarily stand before learning all the facts. Joe McGinnis would not do this to anyone, especially other authors."

    It seems I was not alone in questioning this whole thing, many are smelling a Palin Rat. Can't a long time reader voice their opinion? It felt a little like the moderation at HP, that can't be right...right?

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  5. Anonymous11:45 AM

    I've been reading through the posts on Bailey's work over at C4P,and most people are dismissive of anything regarding Bailey's book. Some are a bit concerned though that actual damning emails might get published.
    Let's hope that Mr Bailey really has the goods.
    I can't believe how many sycophants there are over there that consider her a viable and worthy candidate for high office.
    Maybe we should partition the USA into two large sections, and just be done with it.

    They could have permanent martial law, no health care with being rich, no cops or firemen, no maintenance for roads or bridges (too much like socialism) and only home schooling.
    Best of all, how about fully automatic weapons for kids older than 6. Sounds perfect right? :)

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  6. Anonymous11:49 AM

    Money quote: "On the other hand, it appears this book has been leaked to Wonkette at least twice, by somebody with a South African e-mail address. "

    It's Wonkette. It's a joke.

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  7. SME13111:52 AM

    As I posted on Jeanne's page I am finding it extremely hard to believe Joe would do this. It makes no sense for him to openly send this out under his own name if he felt there was any copyright infringement. If there was no confidentiality disclaimer then I can see him sharing it with a select few. And let's not forget he isn't the only one that shared this so why is he the only one being named? It sounds like someone is attempting to discredit Joe McGinness to increase sales of this book.

    It all seems to smell a bit fishy to me. Why would Bailey's people send the manuscript to Joe anyway? I have a feeling there is a lot more to this story and possibly an underhanded scheme by someone Jeanne and Bailey think is on their side.

    Even bad publicity is good publicity in a case like this.

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  8. Anonymous11:54 AM

    What happened is like sending out pictures of a bride's gown before she gets married.

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  9. My inclination is to wait for a response from Joe McGinniss. I have never had the impression that he was an underhanded person who would do this type of thing. I too have to wonder if this was some sort of hit by a outside source who used his name for their own purposes. Nothing like turning us all against our own.

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  10. Anonymous12:01 PM

    The question remains: Where did Joe get his copy?

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  11. Sorry, but this story does not make much sense. We are missing big pieces of this puzzle --

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  12. Anonymous12:07 PM

    For me, there is a parallel here with the CBJ medical letter, which I think was forged by SP. CBJ has neither confirmed nor denied that this odd letter is hers.

    So now again, a communication and leak from one Joe McGinniss: is it real, or is it an impostor? No response from Joe.

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  13. 10catsinMD12:08 PM

    No matter who leaked the book, if Joe M is even partially responsible or NOT he needs to speak up and acknowledge that has happened on his side of the table.

    As to buying the book, verifiable facts are way better than unknowns repeating info.

    It has been stated that no one who intimitly knows the palins talked to Joe. With that in mind, I wonder what he did write about that is truly verifiable.

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  14. Still waiting for Joe McGinniss to deny he had anything to do with it. But all I hear are the sounds of crickets and cowards.

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  15. I really have no words.

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  16. Watching from California12:14 PM

    This public letter to Joe McGinnis is potentially libelous, isn't it? Even if he did send it on to others, who can say what his motives were? This letter claims, publicly, that McGinnis is "a jealous author sabotaging a competitor via unlawful and unscrupulous means" and that he "thereby salvaged the marketability of [his] own book." Yikes! Is everybody involved sure of their legal footing here? Is everybody really in possession of all the facts yet? I can certainly see the copyright infringement part of this letter, but all the public accusations about his motives seem premature and unwise...

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  17. Anonymous12:15 PM

    Anon at 11:27

    Agree totally. I get their frustration, but taking this public is petty, won't solve their problem and fuels the (sadly accurate) perception that liberals 'eat their own.'

    If Joe McGinniss is guilty of this he should be ashamed of himself and some public upbraiding at some point would have been appropriate. But there are legitimate concerns over the source of the leak and if these guys are wrong, then they have only managed to libel a sympathetic writer and make themselves look reactive and unprofessional. This will impact the credibility of the book--which is what I suspect the actual leak is all about. It's the Levi Johnston thing--get the authors to look unreliable and then nothing they say will stick, even if it is the truth. I hope Jeanne and co haven't been had here and wish they would have exercised a little restraint in airing their (legitimate) grievances.

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  18. Anonymous12:23 PM

    And speaking of cowards, Morgan, you have intimated numerous times in the past as to knowing the "greatest political hoax" on our nation while calling others to come forward with said info, i.e. Levi, etc.

    How self-righteous of you do be so indignant towards others without knowing the whole story.

    Go back to lurking. No really, Please.

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  19. Anonymous12:25 PM

    Perhaps the authors have inside info that we don't...

    But still, this letter is way over the top as a publicly disseminated communication. Seems totally out of character for the Mudflats, and seems to be an attack with precious little evidence.

    It would be nice to hear McGinniss' side of the story, for starters. But beyond that, this is a little like blaming Assange for information he did not steal. One person stole those documents...and I bet one person stole the manuscript. That is the real culprit.

    I also cannot see that this does anything but gin up interest in the book. The authors protest a little too loudly, it seems to be....

    Rob

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  20. I keep thinking of a blogger a couple of years ago who went to Greece and ended up bilking several people. There is too much in the anonymity of the internet that we can't handle as we used to in our neighborhood.

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  21. Anonymous12:33 PM

    Why would Joe M have a copy? Who sent it to him?

    Why would an established, credible author leak the manuscript to the ADN of all places? Doesn't make sense to me.

    Perhaps Bailey was bought out by the Palin puppetmasters and leaked it. All the bots were after McGinnis. Makes sense for them to point at him.

    As usual, crazy-making in Palin-ville.

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  22. Will wait until all the facts are out before jumping to conclusions - I realize that may take a looooonger time than all of us would like, but that is the way the cookie crumbles.

    Just hope the book(s) and facts about Sarah Palin get published soon! by everyone who knows them and that all get compensated for their time and effort. (However, I do agree with other commentors that knowledge and proof (emails if they exist) of illegal activity should be reported to authorities and not held on to for financial gain - that just makes the person who knew about the illegal stuff all along an accomplice.)

    OT - huffington had on the front page about Sarah Palin's Alaska getting a ton of money from tax payers (she set up the law that allowed it before she left office!) - I didn't do the math but the amount the producers got seemed to be enough to cover all or almost all of what they paid Sarah - talk about taking a government handout big time!

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  23. Anonymous12:39 PM

    Anon @ 11:45. I think that's been done. The part I want to live in is called Canada. :-)

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  24. Anonymous12:39 PM

    Anon 11:49 Obviously, Wonkette is a satirical site. It's not their style to add something like the reference to the manuscript as being spam, though.

    My theory before reading the Wonkette article was that someone created a false email account that was redirected from elsewhere. If multiple sources were sending the manuscript around--sounds exactly like a deliberate hack to me. Does Jeanne use a laptop with a wireless Internet connection? Those are surprisingly easy to break into and someone could've gotten a copy of the manuscript.

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  25. Just for the record, Joe McGinniss has not always conducted himself in an ethical manner. Have a peek at his Wiki page. He's done things in his career that are less than 100% ethical and even settled out of court with one of his accusers.

    It will be nice when Joe McGinniss issues a statement regarding the allegations. Only then will I personally make a judgement.

    There does seem to be a contingent of those that find Mr. McGinniss to be of a higher moral standard than is the case, however, based on his own record of behavior. In my opinion he should be judged based on his record, not because "the enemy of my enemy is my friend and therefore beyond reproach".

    His record shows that he engaged in questionable deeds and has been both accused of said deeds and has chosen to pay restitution for his actions. This does not mean he is individually responsible for this latest fiasco, however, it does show that he is capable of making mistakes, whether premeditated or not, and has in the past acted in an unethical manner.

    I think it is always a good idea Judge a person based on their actual record, not some ideal that has been collectively created.

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  26. Anonymous12:45 PM

    Anonymous at 11:45 said:

    "Maybe we should partition the USA into two large sections, and just be done with it.

    They could have permanent martial law, no health care with being rich, no cops or firemen, no maintenance for roads or bridges (too much like socialism) and only home schooling.
    Best of all, how about fully automatic weapons for kids older than 6. Sounds perfect right? :)"

    I like your idea. Could we build a tall wall between the two parts?

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  27. Anonymous12:48 PM

    Mr McGinniss didn't come out with a legal response to Palin's nasty referral to him on her reality show quickly either. So why should he not proceed thoughtfully given how he is being attacked? We have fun here. There is no need for anger. Please try a little kindness ;-).

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  28. KatieAnnieOakley12:50 PM

    AGAIN... From Adn.com:

    "Copies of the manuscript were forwarded around Alaska political circles on Friday."

    "The Daily News RECEIVED COPIES FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES, the FIRST from author Joe McGinniss, who is working on his own Palin book."

    Read more: http://www.adn.com/2011/02/18/1711185/ex-aide-rips-palin-in-leaked-manuscript.html#ixzz1EcWtzGWU

    MULTIPLE SOURCES. They received the book from MULTIPLE sources. Joe's email was just the first. Sounds like the manuscript was SPAMMED to me...

    THINK HARD: who benefits when anti-Palin bloggers start bashing each other... hmmmmmm?

    UPDATE to my last post: BTW - "...it appears this book has been leaked to Wonkette at least twice, by somebody with a South African e-mail address..."

    http://wonkette.com/438769/leaked-book-shocker-sarah-palin-is-terrible

    People, again I say: WHO BENEFITS WHEN ALASKA BLOGGERS ARE GOING AT EACH OTHER / THE MEDIA / OTHER PALIN AUTHORS THROATS?????

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  29. Anonymous12:56 PM

    This letter posted on Mudflats is a bit disconcerting. It makes me wonder about the legal advice and expertise of the firm they are using. This is pretty libelous and may bring about some serious legal blowback to the authors.

    The entire scenario as unfolded by various bloggers in the know is missing huge chunks of important information. It bears the mark of an orchestrated SP campaign to nip this very damaging book in the bud and provide a little retribution in disparaging Mr. McGuinness and his forthcoming tome.

    Something is definitely amiss here.
    Jeanne...if you're following these comments just a word of caution to please be careful.

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  30. Anonymous12:57 PM

    I've been on the mudflats site several times today with no problem.

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  31. Anonymous12:58 PM

    Stay Focus people!!

    I believe Princess Dumbass and the paymaster dwarfs are involved with this. They are trying to weaken both McGinniss and Bailey's credibility.

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  32. Anonymous12:59 PM

    This entire thing has a cloud over it... if the excerpts you've posted are representative of the rest of the manuscript, this probably can never be published without such heavy editing there will be very little left of it. The problem is NOT violation of privacy, but violation of copyright law. Legal precedent is firmly established: the writer of virtually ANY written communication, even letters or e-mail, has the copyright. Look up the case that the writer J. D. Salinger won against a biographer (Ian Hamilton), who quoted from Salinger's letters. The entire book had to be rewritten and published without any quotes from the letters. So, I'd second the person who commented that Bailey, Morris and the terrific Jeanne Devon need a decent lawyer. Having the manuscript "leaked" on the internet certainly is one way of getting the Palin email with self-damning content out to a broad audience, but as far as getting it picked up by a publisher? Not so sure that will happen, irregardless of the leak.

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  33. Anonymous1:02 PM

    12:25. I have to agree. Jeanne is pretty careful about what actions she takes. If it came from Joe, I assume there were telltale notes, etc. If they weren't certain, they would not have made this public. His publisher may have received a copy and emailed it to Joe.

    I got the sense from the screen names on Mudflats that matched screen names from another blog, that there is some commenters who still have an axe to grind with Jeanne.

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  34. TNbluedot1:07 PM

    Anon @11:45 - Funny you should mention that! My daughter and I had a conversation over dinner the other night about giving them a little chunk of the country. Only problem is they'd want something in the middle, since they're so anti-left and right coasters. That would cause a wall situation (like Germany) because we'd surely have to keep those "Christian" women from coming over for their abortions! Wait, maybe we could just give them AZ and TX. Hey, the walls are partially built and most of the government in place would work, too. Could be Tea Party Nation East and TPN West. Man! The wheels are turning... I'm going to have to write to Perry, Brewer, Angle, Palin, Bachmann, DeMint, O'Donnell, Walker... this is perfect!! It could work!

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  35. Anonymous1:16 PM

    AK PetMom,

    Have you seen Sarah Palin's Wikipedia page? Pure bot-spin..."botspin." Jeanne herself wouldn't rely on Wikipedia as a reliable source.

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  36. Anonymous1:20 PM

    Forgot to link to it, but be advised, you'll need waders:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_palin

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  37. Anonymous1:20 PM

    I still have such a problem thinking that McGinniss did this deed...he is a wonderful author, has been in the business a long time and knows the laws of publishing books.

    Why, would he distribute this manuscript to everyone noted in the letter?

    I think he personally knows some people here in Alaska quite well. Why would he ruin his reputation knowing full well that a trail could be followed in who distributed these many manuscripts?

    I plan to purchase Jeanne's book - there is no doubt. Will be interesting watching what comes out about all of this.

    That damned Sarah Palin brings havoc to everything - ententioned or not!

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  38. Anonymous1:22 PM

    Jeanne was so secretive about working on this book that Gryphen didn't even know she was working on it until he was emailed a copy. That being said, do we really think she would put the cease and desist letter on the cover of mudflats if she didn't know with certainty that Joe was the culprit. Jeanne is pretty solid. This doesn't apply to the agent who possibly distributed the manuscript, however.

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  39. Lidia171:22 PM

    Anon@12:56, I agree that that letter looks rather unprofessional. If you want someone to cease and desist it's not necessary to get into assumed motivations and personal attacks.

    There's something odd about all this.

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  40. "Say it ain't so, Joe?" It probably ain't. Nothing really adds up to a good reason for Mcginniss to do this. Why would he do something that would damage his credibility like this?

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  41. emrysa1:31 PM

    it does not make sense that a respected author would sabotage his own career by pulling this move. I suspect there's something else going on here. as easy as it is to hack into computers and create fraudulent email accounts in today's world, I can't believe people are so quick to hang mcginness. so f-ing quick to dismiss the money machine that has an interest in discrediting all of these authors and keeping all of these books from coming out.

    at the suggestion of another commenter, I looked at joe's wiki page. I liked this part:

    "In 1995, McGinniss sat through the O. J. Simpson trial, expecting to write a book about it, but returned the $1 million advance after Simpson was acquitted, saying the trial had been "a farce.""

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  42. Anonymous1:31 PM

    I agree that this story seems to be missing crucial details. Why would Joe McGinniss openly distribute the manuscript if it could get him into legal hot water? This reminds me of the bad blood between Michael Joseph Gross and a few Alaskans (AKM and Moore, I think?) following his story about Sarah Palin. I don't know anything about publishing. Is it typical for writers working on the same subject to get into these types of scuffles?

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  43. Anonymous1:34 PM

    Palinbots are fanning the flames of distrust between the bloggers. Pretending they're Sarah critics outraged at this leak...oh, please! They're acting exactly like their Quitter Queen and sowing divisiveness. They're so f-ing obvious when they sneak into the IM comments.

    Hey Palinbots, your lying idol is still doomed. All this publicity will just make more people go out and buy the books.

    It wouldn't be surprising if we find out the book was leaked through an accidental series of events.

    A lesson for everyone.. If you don't want something distributed on the internet, then don't put it there in the first place. Handle your manuscripts personally when seeking a publisher. Allow others to see a paper copy only after getting a signed confidentiality agreement. Then get your copy back.

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  44. James McKeane1:35 PM

    Sarah doesn't really need to respond to any of her critics, considering most are busy setting each other on fire.

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  45. OK, now things are getting a little more clear-

    Hey "Morgan" @ 12:09-- what the hell are you doing here and how would you know anything about this? You seem to appear whenever there is disagreement amongst good folks and you always want to stir up the pot. I don't trust you.

    In any case, I think it unwise to jump to any conclusions about the larger issue of the leaking of the manuscript. We don't really know what happened. In the end, hopefully, there will be three good books revealing the truth about Sarah Palin.

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  46. Anonymous1:45 PM

    Story is being covered by my local tv station. will post a clip once they put it up.

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  47. Anonymous1:45 PM

    Go Malia!

    http://malialitman.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/letter-to-anchorage-police-department-sent-today/

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  48. Are the commentators on Mudflats the usualy ones? The tone and content seem completely out of character (kick his ass? cancel my order of his book?). To quote Flapjack, "What is going on here?"

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  49. Anonymous1:46 PM

    Who benefits when a dispute like this arises? I still can't get past the idea that Palin's people had something to do with this.

    Blue_in_AK

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  50. Anonymous1:50 PM

    First a blunder in the manuscript marketing, then a fiasco in the legal followup. This team of authors needs professional legal and publishing before they expose themselves further to ridicule.

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  51. Anonymous1:55 PM

    I truly think a smammer has been up to a few tricks on this one folks. The bots are sitting back and laughing their arses off at all the turmoil this has caused. Has the email from "Joe" been validated? Is it really from him?
    WHY would he do it? I'll wait to hear a response from him on this before passing judgement and slamming him. It does smell palin though.

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  52. I'd like to know if anyone picked up the telephone and called Joe and asked him WTF? I also wonder why a potential publisher who could make bunches of money on this book currently in draft manuscript form let it out of their hands?

    Think about it, no one would trust a book publisher again, BTW, who is their book puublisher?

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  53. I sure hope Mudflats has positive proof that Joe did this. If not she could be in for a world of hurt.

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  54. Anonymous1:59 PM

    Very interesting, 12:33. Bailey's been bought by Palin before. So now he wants to "redeem" himself IF the price is right. Could she have offered him a better deal? Would he kill two birds with one stone by burying himself and McGinniss?

    Whether McGinniss leaked the book or not, the utter shock and disgust expressed towards him is a bit over the top, coming from people who spent so much time with one of Sarah's henchmen. Yes, maybe Jeanne won't become a millionaire, and Miller won't get a big payoff on his investment, but you know what they say about laying with dogs.

    Bailey himself is guilty of unethical, immoral and maybe illegal acts. And aware of others he chose to do nothing about. Let's not give him a pass because he was duped by Sarah & Todd. To the best of my knowledge, he's a mentally competent adult who's responsible for his own actions.

    Bailey is not a victim. He's an accomplice. So far there are no real victims of the leaking of the book, unless McGinniss has been wrongfully accused. Can we say the same for Bailey?

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  55. Anonymous2:03 PM

    Mudflats, Bailey et. al. did not securely distribute their manuscript in the normal manner for a "tell-all" book. So they are paying the price for the incompetence. And how do they handle the situation? They post an unfounded accusation on the internet.

    You six-year behaves this way. That's what the time out corner is for.

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  56. Anonymous2:03 PM

    Oh, I think the Mudflats folks are gonna regret going off half-cocked like this. Why do they think McGinniss had anything to do with it? He doesn't have any record of shady or illegal dealings. Somebody may have hacked his email or faked a computer ID.

    Sending a cease-and-desist, sure. Referring to Joe McGinniss by name without proof? Not. Smart.

    Ivyfree

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  57. I hope Mudflats has positive proof that Joe did this,because if not they may be in for a world of hurt.

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  58. Anonymous2:05 PM

    I bet the authors three got some additional (false) info that we are not privy to -- and it made them furious, as it was intended to. As a good dirty tricks game is supposed to do.

    Therefore the C&D letter with all the nasties on it.

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  59. Anonymous2:14 PM

    AKPetMom,

    There is a back story to the 'settled out of court' thing that really should be made public before using an unreliable source like a Wiki to condemn a person's integrity.

    McGinniss was sued by Jeffrey MacDonald, the Green Beret surgeon convicted of killing his pregnant wife and two young daughters and blaming it on a 'bushy haired stranger.' This sociopath has been wasting everyone's time and money with baseless appeals since 1979 when there is absolutely no doubt that he is the guilty party. McGinniss interviewed him for his book 'Fatal Vision,' which MacDonald, in his pathological narcissism, believed would be his public exoneration at the hands of a journalist. When McGinniss's portrayal wasn't as favorable as MacDonald expected, he sued citing ethical violations including that McGinniss had cultivated his friendship under false pretenses. He may have had a point, but journalists routinely butter up sources to get their story, so what McGinniss did does not necessarily brand him as 'unethical.' He settled out of court because it was cheaper than a trial and because, according to him, he didn't want any continuing links to this really horrible person.

    I don't know if McGinniss is ethical or not, but have to object to using poorly researched info from a wiki to malign someone's character. If there is confirmatory info out there from a credible site, it would help to clear this situation up.

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  60. hauksdottir2:27 PM

    The tale of the leak is now on the front page of Raw Story... they link to the ADN article, so it isn't quite accurate. That article "buries the lede" by claiming the book is based upon gossip and innuendo, and then several paragraphs down mentions the SIXTY THOUSAND personal emails between Bailey and the Palins.

    Contemporaneous, dated and time-stamped, evidence in someone's own words is a damned fine memory-jogger, especially since many business people send an email to corroborate and confirm details of a phone call.

    How is Sarah going to walk away from her own words?

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  61. I plan to purchase the books (all three I hope). Legitimate or not, what is happening here is a distraction.

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  62. Anonymous2:36 PM

    Maybe McGinnis will just walk away from his own book the way he did on the O. J. Simpson trial.

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  63. Anonymous2:39 PM

    The "jealous author" remark is really pointless. Why did AKM allow that in the letter to McGinnis?

    I think AKM has more evidence that McGinnis is up to something nefarious.

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  64. Virginia Voter2:45 PM

    Wah, everyone stop crying over spilled milk...Bailey, Devon, et al made a rookie mistake, so what? Does that invalidate Baileys 60,000 emails which have the potential to wipe Sarah Palin from the political landscape? Hell to the no it doesn't !

    Give me a break, I'll buy his book, McGinnis' book, and Dunn's ...any book that exposes Sarah Palin and her heinous lies.

    Some of you are terrible at seeing the big picture. Sheesh

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  65. Anonymous2:49 PM

    Come on gang, it's obvious. Try to ruin the possibility that the book will be published by leaking it while damaging the reputation of the author that pissed you off all in one shot. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's going on.

    Carrie

    P.S.
    The mistakes that were made regarding the handling of the manuscript were pretty amateur. You always protect your work. You don't just hand it out for others to read and decide if it should be published. ESPECIALLY if it is a tell-all.

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  66. Anonymous2:52 PM

    Post in haste, repent at leisure. A simple "we are conferring with our attorney with regard to copyright infringement" blah blah would have sufficed. Posting the cease and desist letter, not cool.

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  67. Anonymous2:55 PM

    I read that Ken Morris is a published author. He is also the author of the post at The Mudflats. There is a piece of the story that is missing, which is not a good thing for a professional writer.

    He describes bidding on an ebay dinner with Sarah for charity. He describes working for a year with Jeanne and Frank on their book. The next paragraph starts out by stating that the book was leaked. There should have been a description in there about how they secured an agent (Carol Mann) and what the terms of their relationship was.

    Next, we should have been told how many publishers were sent copies of their book. While some books have been published after sending the publisher a complete manuscript, it is more commoon to start with a proposal consisting of an outline and a sample chapter. Since this book will require serious vetting, they could have included copies of the documentation that would support the sample chapter as proof of their credibile reporting.

    So, we don't know how they found the agent, the terms of the relationship with the agent, and how many places the agent sent an entire unpublished manuscript. We also do not know if Frank, Jeanne, Ken or the agent sent the manuscript to other people for comments, criticism, input or help in getting it published. Morris left all of that out in his Mudflats post. Maybe he'll follow up with more details. (I hope that's not an example of how accurate a reporter he is).

    As for Joe McGinniss being the "leaker," all that we have heard is that he emailed the book to Alaska media. Did he also send a cover letter explaining his motive? Asking people to read it and circulate it with hopes of getting it published? Any cover letter at all?

    I get spoof emails from banks or organizations where I don't do business. The logo looks real, and the email claims to come from a well know corporation or bank. But they need my social security number, my account number, my password, and, surprise, it isn't real. As 11:28 AM writes, a hacker could be using Joe McGinniss email as a spoof. And, Joe is an easy target after Sarah put up her big fence and accused him of spying on Piper. If anyone is leaking this trying to blame Joe, it sound like a friend of Palin. It's a lame attempt to get an unpublished book published.

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  68. Anonymous3:01 PM

    A MSNBC announcer just talked about 'a top administrator in the Sarah Paling Administration' having just released information about having worked with her that included some of what we in Alaska have already heard. "I hate my job" and 'she did illegal campaigning when she ran for Governor'. Nothing was mentioned about the manuscript having been leaked.

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  69. did ADN or MSNBC get a cease and desist letter? cause they are talking about the manuscript.

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  70. Anonymous3:10 PM

    journalist John Taylor examined (McGinnis' boo) The Last Brother's advance excerpt and found the ''overwhelming bulk of the material in the first 11 chapters'' to be right out of William Manchester's 1967 Kennedy classic, The Death of a President. ''I'm prepared to go to court,'' says Manchester, who himself counts ''over a hundred'' examples of direct copying from his book. ''I'm working on a biography of Winston Churchill, which is the most important book I shall write. I'm 71. I will never write such major work again. The last thing I want is to turn aside for something like this from which I can gain nothing. But it is a simple matter of right and wrong. ''

    Since Simon & Schuster refuses to release any more of the new book and McGinniss isn't returning calls, the issues of plagiarism and trumped-up quotes are both unresolved.

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  71. Anonymous3:19 PM

    This has crossed my mind concerning other incidents that have happened, and it comes up again. As someone else has alluded to, it seems there is some anonymous entity that is fabulously well funded hiding in the background manipulating things. Not just this, all the other stuff - babygate, the emails AK won't release just to name a couple of hundreds of things, finding ways to discredit those who are close to finding the truth.

    This entity/group/whatever is not necessarily SP. These are people who recognized SP was a perfect tool to use to further their agenda, meaning they recognized she could be bought and would be the perfect accomplice.

    They are masterminds, and it just seems like this is another piece of that puzzle. Maybe I've read too many Nelson DeMille novels, but I don't believe Joe McGinnis would do this.

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  72. Anonymous3:23 PM

    Leaking this helps SP get her spin/rebuttal in order for the more serious accusations doesn't it? I'd be looking at a possible sympathizer along the chain of custody.

    ~Canuck~

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  73. Anonymous3:25 PM

    According to one of the BIG blogs, they received their copy of the manuscript from Bailey's own agent on 2/17/11. They were also sent copies from multiple sources on 2/19/11........2 days LATER!!!

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  74. Anonymous3:27 PM

    Why the hell did they give a copy of the manuscript to ANYBODY let alone a guy who was a competitor to their story??? Find a publisher and get this thing printed and on the shelves STAT!
    I am writing this comment at 7:30 pm EDT without reading the other comments so sorry if I sound like I'm repeating someone else.

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  75. Anonymous3:30 PM

    Waiting for the truth, as we do not know any details as such.

    No use speculating about the 3 authors of the upcoming book, no need to speculate about Joe except we haven't heard a word from Joe, no need to speculate about the legal letter, no need to speculate about fake e-mail accounts being used, no need to speculate about lawyers good or bad.

    In other words......
    NO NEED TO JUMP THE SHARK.

    Why not just wait PATIENTLY for the truth in a few days or a week or so?


    Blame, blame, blame - STOP NOW!!!

    Have a good night. Peace.

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  76. ENOUGHwiththetrainwreck3:45 PM

    D.R.A.M.A

    someone made a big boo boo
    someone gets mad
    others get in trouble
    the rest of us are wanting to buy the damn book

    please get organized and get it done.

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  77. Anonymous3:45 PM

    Phil on Progressive Alaska has weighed in. Says that numerous people emailed Joe after receiving the emailed manuscript from him, asking why he was sending it out. No one has received a reply.

    I withhold judgement on this, but it is all very odd. Hope we find out who the weasel(s) is/are.

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  78. Anonymous3:52 PM

    So, we now have an ever growing list of media outlets referencing the insider manuscript. Got the buzz going pretty well didn't it? Much harder for the manuscript & emails to magically vanish now. When it gets picked up, and it will, it will undoubtedly outsell the former politician's books. Nice job. The McG thing, orchestrated distraction that will only bring more attention to the matter. It's all about those pesky emails folks.

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  79. Are you sure Gryphen that this whole book thing isn't just a "setup" by Sarah's previous employer and friend to get back at Joe McG and discredit him...this sounds fishy! I haven't heard one word from Palin on this book...

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  80. Anonymous4:01 PM

    This letter is a huge huge mistake for many reasons.

    Joe McGinniss jealous?? That is as ridiculous as Sarah telling AKM she only writes about her because she is jealous!

    Two books or more only increase the chances of them getting read. Now thanks to These people sending this accusatory letter, both sides lose credibility.

    Why aren't they blaming the AGENT who sent this out.

    Very stupid and unprofessional.

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  81. Anonymous4:20 PM

    WHO BENEFITS WHEN ALASKA BLOGGERS ARE GOING AT EACH OTHER / THE MEDIA / OTHER PALIN AUTHORS THROATS?????


    Palin..I wouldn't put anything past her..this was done by her people to create sympathy for her..they knew Bailey was penning the book,and needed an easy out to discredit it..Wake up People!

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  82. Anonymous4:36 PM

    Please people, use your brain cells. You keep accusing people of being ignorant, you see conspiracies being born everywhere, you say lawyers are stupid, you say authors are making huge mistakes.

    Quit trying to spin this to suit your own narrow agenda. You are making all kinds of things up when you don't know the facts.

    Reload your brains, please.

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  83. Anonymous4:40 PM

    Warning, take heed.

    This book is going to blow a lot of things out of the water, it will be a fascinating read and a blockbuster seller. Everyone is going to want to be on this gravy train and I absolutely am setting on the edge of my chair.

    Waiting patiently, salute to the authors.

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  84. Anonymous4:43 PM

    This makes me think that Bailey/Devon's book might be much better than Joe's. He might have read it and thought he couldn't withstand the competition and did everything he could to scuttle it.

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  85. Anonymous4:44 PM

    MSNBC have been carrying this story all night...ReWriting Sarah..mean and vindictive..by a conservative former aide..

    I'll be buying whatever negative books come out on Snooki Snowdrift..

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  86. i think making this public without enough facts was unwise and appears petty. i am sure akm, et al know a great deal more than we do, but that letter was harsh perhaps they should have waited for a statement from jm before publishing it i also think they need better legal advice.

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  87. Anonymous4:58 PM

    o/t Just read on Sarah's scandals that Toad referred other men to Ms. Tripp. Does,t that make him a pimp in the prostitution ring? The police have no problem with that??? My husband was in law enforcement for 38 years and he would have been sh#tting bricks over the blatant corruption.

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  88. icstraights5:02 PM

    DITTO 4:20 !!!

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  89. Nobody should rule out Palin operatives having a hand in this.

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  90. Anonymous5:09 PM

    Something is wrong with this picture. Or at least the part we see.

    McGinnis has absolutely nothing to gain and virtually everything professional to loose by doing this.

    His book will probably be published first, he has a publisher, AKM doesn't have one yet. So why would McGinnis poison the PR pond he will be diving into?

    Assuming he has stolen or illicitly received the mss. why release it under his name knowing the legal and PR outfall could ruin him professionally?

    However let's say Murdoch and co (Breitbart? this smell O'keefeeie) got a copy. Murdoch owns a publishing co. Maybe they have friends or industrial spies in a publishing house that got a copy of the mss. and sneaked them a copy for a few bucks or a better job.

    So Murdock can now use the mss. to harm both McGinnis and AKM, both of whom Sarah despises, and cause some enemies to be made in the Progressive/Alaskan Progressive blog sphere. And maybe smear their integrity (I smell Breitbart again here.)

    That makes sense.

    McGinnis self immolating does not.
    I don't know the guy maybe he is a gob o' snot but maybe he is being used, and the press has been punked.

    Lets face it Sarah is loving this.

    Incidentally, I am not defeding McGinnis, I just think this thing stinks right now.

    Also, too I hold AKM in high regard, and am not in any way trying to take sides against her and her fellow authors. They absolutely have to react to what has actually happened and the information available.

    I doubt however we have seen the end of this drama, and I think Sarah or Sarah's associates will end up the worse for it. Sarah is the only one who wins out of this situation as it stands now.

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  91. Anonymous5:11 PM

    It just occurs to me that since the current leaked book is just an update of the old one which never made it to print, a comparison needs to be made of the two manuscripts. If they are the same or very close to the same, then it stands to reason that the leaked book may have been leaked by someone involved in 2009 since there was also a co-author involved then.

    It's also very possible that since the manuscript probably was started in mid-to-late 2008 then the Palin camp has had their very own copy for some time. That would be the real source of the leak, IMHO.

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  92. Anonymous5:12 PM

    As an intellectual property attorney, I cannot fathom how any competent attorney would include the following paragraph in their "cease and desist" letter:

    ...The Copyright Owners believe your actions were done with the single intent of destroying the
    marketability of the Work. It is no secret that you are writing your own “tell-all” book about
    Sarah Palin. By releasing the Work prior to publication, you have limited the actual interest in
    the Work and thereby salvaged the marketability of your own book. This matter appears to be no
    more than that of a jealous author sabotaging a competitor via unlawful and unscrupulous means.


    To speculate about Mr. McGinnis' motivation is so unprofessional that I find it difficult to credit that an attorney wrote this. If one did, Ms. Devon, Mr. Bailey, and Mr. Morris need to fire this individual as quickly as possible. Like tonight.

    Something is not passing the smell test here. If Mr. McGinnis is so unscrupulous that he would release the manuscript to damage a competitor, why do it under his real name? Why not set up a phony email account, forward it to a thousand people from some Internet cafe somewhere, and then promptly delete the account? Same result and his hands are clean.

    I don't know what's going on here, but just like Palin's pregnancy there are about six different facts here than simply don't add up.

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  93. Anonymous5:13 PM

    I do not think Joe McGinnis leaked this,I think this was a spoof. I still think it is the Palin insiders who leaked, to make you fight against each other.
    Again you make the Palin mafia win.

    Palin has many writers backing her in NY. So my guess is the transcripts, landed in wrong hands.
    Can't you ask yourself how the media keeps covering up for the Palins?
    This makes the Palin land very happy. And one more thing,Palin is backed by the empire running most media outlets, including publishers. Just can't you figure out how they keep advertising Palin and Bristol? And now writing a book for Bristol.
    I know Jeanne, personally, she is smart.I just wished they did not trust the publishers in New York.
    Palin is their marketable product, and will subbotage anyone who tries to destroy the product that is giving them business.

    This book was going to be a big hit, even with unknow publisher.
    That is just my opinion on all this.

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  94. Anonymous5:15 PM

    As much as I really don't want to ask this, I have to.

    A number of people have tried to contact Joe M. but he doesn't respond.
    Has anyone checked to see if he's OK?

    I would hate to think they might find him with a "suicide" note attached.

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  95. Anonymous5:18 PM

    Mimic c @ 1:45, "Are the commenters on the Mudflats the usual ones?"

    Good question. I found a good 65% to be unfamiliar commenters. Very suspect comments include : I'm canceling my order ( for JM book)
    *anything with "anti-Palin" in it, (mudpups don't use phrases like that or care for it).
    *Blogger infighting (what? I haven't seen any regarding this book)
    *That the leaked bits somehow make less attractive to publishers (moose-shit! I can wait to order 5 or more..)

    The "outrage-tr0lls" and the over the top "concern tr0lls" who act like not one book, of the 3 by either Dunn, McGuiness or Bailey, will see their way to a publisher are the tr0lls.

    I couldn't log on to Mudflats for hours, and when I finally got there it was a sea of unfamiliar "faces". All I know is I smell a rat and it smells to high heaven of Eau de Lake Lucille and Parfum de Grift.

    I can't wait for all three books personally.
    *

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  96. emrysa5:26 PM

    gryphen, you wrote in a post yesterday that you received a cease and desist letter. you stated:

    "This has been sent to ALL of us who, without authorization from the owners of the copyright, received this manuscript in our e-mail boxes on Friday."

    so I am wondering why andrew halcro didn't get a get a cease and desist letter. he posted this today:

    http://www.andrewhalcro.com/another_shot_of_baileys

    a great read, but why he is still blogging on the book sure makes all of this even more confusing.

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  97. Anonymous5:28 PM

    Isn't this all just a well coordinated and funded plan to harm Bailey's ability to get his book published and to discredit McGinnis?

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  98. Anonymous5:30 PM

    I couldn't care less about all of the accusations between the various blogs and writers. I will buy Dunn's book, McGinnis' book, Bailey's book, and anyone else's book that presents credible evidence against Sarah Palin. All of this infighting is boring and unnecessary.

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  99. Anonymous5:34 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...
    Legal precedent is firmly established: the writer of virtually ANY written communication, even letters or e-mail, has the copyright.
    12:59 PM


    I don't believe that private communications are automatically copyrighted. They are however private and that does matter.

    The emails Baily kept were between employees of the state, and are the property of the taxpayers of Alaska. That would even apply to, say, Sarah's using Baily to attack Wooten, which is a private matter, except that they were both state employees when they were communicating about those acts.

    On the other hand the mss. is private property and intellectual property, and cannot be published or distributed without the permission of the owners.

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  100. Anonymous5:43 PM

    I don't think Palin is behind this because it simply doesn't benefit her because it contains her real emails. She looks bad no matter what. Does she look better or worse this having been leaked as a manuscript vs. being published as a book?

    It seems that she's be more protected in a book form since def. with that length some of it would be lost, and also if there is a copyright issue on emails, then perhaps some or all of them would only be described. So if anything, it seems that it's worse for her for the raw manuscript to get out to the media.

    As for Joe, makes absolutely no sense that he would do this or do it for malicious reasons. If this book is just getting pitched to publshers, at the earliest--after it being routed and a bidding war set up, yadda yadda, the deal would only get signed at the early in, say end of March or April--at the earliest.

    Even if it were rushed to publication, it's unlikely that it woudl come out BEFORE Joe M's book in September. Usually more time is needed for not just editing and layout stuff--but for selling into book stores, getting into catalogues, etc. They like a 6 month lead time and I think the pubs do 2 catalogs a year--June and Dec or some such--annoucing the books coming out that next half year...Maybe with the web things are condensed, but in general it seems that this book would most likely come out after Joe M's book--and him being an experienced author would know this---

    so it wouldn't nec hurt his sales, this book getting a deal. And him releasing info on most liekly similar stuff that HE is covering in his own book (minus the emails) also would NOT benefit Joe because it would make it seem less new, less revealing if it's alreayd stuff that's been mentioned in the press.

    So I vote, no, Joe had little or nothing to gain, and actually something to lose by leaking this. So I'm in favor of the hacker theory---only not by Palin--because again, verbatim emails of her that make her look bad do NOT do her justice, especially when there is a chance that they'd be edited out of a real book.

    So who? Someone who doesn't like the authors, or the agent, perhaps?

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  101. Anonymous5:49 PM

    Anonymous TNbluedot said...
    Anon @11:45 - Funny you should mention that! My daughter and I had a conversation over dinner the other night about giving them a little chunk of the country.
    1:07 PM

    I know that we are just have fun with this but, just for fun, almost any place you put the wall, a large part of the country would be cut off from a large part of it food source. Almost all those red states are agricultural. And almost all those industrial and business states do things that farmers and ranchers need to in order to be able to ship and sell their produce.
    The problem is we have allowed politicians and big businesses to jerk our chains so much we have forgotten we Americans need each other for our survival.

    Which makes tonight's Aesop moral for both the mss. drama and the red/blue drama pretty much the same moral.

    There are real bad guys, but, any given Tea Bagger and very possibly McGinnis (substitute Planned Parenthood if you prefer) aren't them (the bad guys) they are just clay pigeons that have been thrown out for us to kake shots at.

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  102. emrysa5:49 PM

    oh now I get it.

    wingnuts who address issues like babygate (gryphen) can't leak portions of the book, but respectable people who don't address issues like babygate (halcro), can leak.

    games. I don't like games and I don't have respect for people who play them. frankly bailey should probably go to jail instead of making decisions regarding who can and cannot leak his book.

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  103. Anonymous6:20 PM

    Now check what Vanity Fair has written. Not flattering to Anti Palin Alaskan blogers. This explains why media did not pick up the story about Shailey Tripp. We are now a joke to the media.
    Anti Palin bloggers bickering on each other, comes down to this analysis.
    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/10/sarah-palin-201010?currentPage=5

    I am very sad, because allowing Palin get away with all this, is putting the country in danger.If Palins runs, the media will be behind her. I can't still figure out all the cover ups on her. We are missing something big, due to all these distractions.

    The infights makes all bloggers writing about Palins, look like they are just jelous of Sarah Palin's fame, and we all want to make money out of her name.
    This explains why media ignored Shailey Tripp's interview with Gryphen.
    This kinda of discredits whatever has been reported.If we all care about this country, cant we just unite like the the tea baggers, without looking like we are making up stuff to make money.

    I stopped reading Palingates when they introduced the money Boganza, and kept reporting on the traffic, and how much they made.
    It looked so childish and unprofessional, when the person you are reporting about is making millions, and there you are reporting that you made $5000.

    This is the reason the Crazy woman called Sarah Palin can't go away, because media is on her side, fighting every Alaskan, who is reporting on her. It is becoming like a game, and losing meaning.
    Sadly, in the end Palin wins.
    We will just have ourselves to blame.
    I would have still bought the book if it ended up being published.
    I hoped Jeanne and other two writters had requested in private, without giving the Palin land satisfaction.
    Joe McG is a biggest SP's enermy,Mudflat,Shynnon, are all Palin's enermies. This just gives Sarah Palin more ammunition.

    Just saying.....
    Can we start fighting in private? Do you see the GOP bloggers fighting publicly?
    Even when Joe Scabrough went after Sarah Palin, they all watered it down quietly.
    GOP's always unite in the general elections, do not be fooled. If Sara Palin wins the nomination, GOP will back her.
    Democrats do not learn a lesson. See what happened in New Jersey. People thought, people would not support Christie if Lonegan loses, Democrats assumed the anti Christie Republicans would vote for Corzine, guess what, in the general election, All Lonegan supporters, voted for Chris Christie while, many Democrats voters who did not like Corzine stayed home.

    So do not hink if Sarah Palin wins the nomination, GOP will not back her.
    It will be too late by the time you realize that, time to fight ourselves is be over.
    If Joe Mcg leaked the contents, he should know that, by doing that, he just discredited his work. What is the point anyway. This is not about making money, this is about saving your country from letting fraudlent politicians like Sarah Palin, being elected into public office.
    If you have a dirty on Palin, bring it out, with or without payment.

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  104. Anonymous6:27 PM

    One more thing,
    By the way,
    Jeanne, Joe and other two authors, I do not care if the book is leaked, I am buying both books.
    I hope you publish them soon.

    I will buy in big quantities, so that I can give them as birthday presents to all my friends

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  105. Anonymous6:47 PM

    Anonymous Anonymous said...
    Why the hell did they give a copy of the manuscript to ANYBODY let alone a guy who was a competitor to their story???
    3:27 PM

    It is common practice for publishers to send copies of fact based books (bio of George Washington) to known,reputable experts and authors on the same subject (life and times of GW)to get their opinion of theaccuracy of the new work.
    Like bieng peer reviewed for scientific publications. You send the article to the scientists who are doing the same work as they are the experts, ie, competitors.

    So McGinnis might actually have had a copy or at least a sample.

    On the other hand if this is a scam, any one in the publishing business would know the probability of McGinnis being given a copy by a prospective publisher to vet the mss. So he would be an obvious target if the mss. was leaked.

    And and oh, show sweet a scam to kill two bird with one stone and double that.

    On the other hand if it is a scam and it is uncovered, Sarah is going to come out the looser, she will never convince anyone other than her bots that her hands are not bloody, again.

    I just see Breitbartism all over this mess.

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  106. onething7:00 PM

    The question I have is, who gave Joe McGinnis a copy of this book and why? And if it is a more sinister conspiracy, again, if the book was not on the internet then how could anyone steal it? Did the authors send chunks over the net to each other? Did they give it to a bunch of people for opinions?

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  107. Anonymous7:17 PM

    In order to send the C and D letter to everyone who got a copy, one would have to KNOW who got a copy. How could one know that except by also knowing who sent the copies.

    So someone knows, but we do not. Not yet.

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  108. Anonymous7:34 PM

    "This letter claims, publicly, that McGinnis is "a jealous author sabotaging a competitor via unlawful and unscrupulous means"

    I'd be really surprised if this letter were written by a lawyer. It's unprofessional in the extreme.

    Syrin says on her blog that she was never contacted by the authors, who attributed several comments to her. This whole enterprise seems like a comedy of errors to me. One of Andree's lawsuits claimed that Bailey was prohibited by state law from profiting from the use of emails that had not been "disseminated." Personally, I think this was his way of disseminating them.

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  109. Anon 5:43 said:

    I don't think Palin is behind this because it simply doesn't benefit her because it contains her real emails. She looks bad no matter what. Does she look better or worse this having been leaked as a manuscript vs. being published as a book?

    Anon:
    1- the emails were going to be published anyway, so it IS to Palin's advantage to DISCREDIT the writers and/or dilute their impact by 'leaking' parts of the book, so that by the time it's published, people have a 'been there, done that' attitude. If you can't STOP a story get IN FRONT of it. Maybe THAT is the reason Sarah just hired a 'Chief of Staff' ... to rev up the buses (so to speak)

    2- Sarah is vindictive; she has a LOT to gain by this manuscript being leaked AND JM being discredited in any way.

    3- I find it suspect that IF JM in fact did send a copy to the ADN, that the focus is on HIM even though he clearly says it's been distributed widely for a few days. If he felt (assuming he did send it to ADN) that he was doing something wrong, why do it under his own name? Sheesh it takes 2 minutes to set up a g-mail account and go to a cyber cafe to send.

    4- There is a whole lot more to this story than meets the eye; JM is wise (either way) to remain silent on this.

    5- I have to agree with the above poster re: the C&D letter. Weird

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  110. Anonymous8:01 PM

    bailey is a paylin pal.
    this is an attempt to ruin joe's book.
    everyone gets suckered on this one.

    when do people truly realize anything to do with paylins turns to shit.

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  111. I have to agree with others who find it hard to comprehend why Joe McG. would leak a manuscript and discredit himself. It makes no sense.

    Messy.

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  112. Anonymous8:42 PM

    I must be missing something...shouldn't we be focusing on exactly why a full draft of the manuscript was being electonically circulated in the first place? I mean, we are not twenty years ago where you might be able to hand someone a typed manuscript and still have a reasonable expectation that it would not be widely distributed. Given the nature of e-mails and the internet, it is but a push of a button or two to send an electronic document into cyberspace. Not taking precautions in the first place was reckless conduct on the part of someone on the side of the authors. So, if it was not on purpose for some reason, someone was really careless.

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  113. Anonymous8:47 PM

    100% agree with you 8:01pm: anything to do with Sarah Palin eventually turns to shit. The quicker all of these books discredit her, the better.

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  114. Anonymous8:51 PM

    Publish the damning emails....

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  115. Just taking a guess here but this may be the key to situation...

    (from post on Huffington)
    "Last year, activist Andree McLeod asked the attorney general to look into what she alleged was a violation of state ethics rules for Bailey's access to – and possession of – e-mails from Palin's time as governor. The executive ethics act bars current or former public officials from using information gained during the course of their work for personal gain if the information hasn't been publicly disseminated."

    Soooooo...the emails had to be "publicly disseminated" before a profit could be made?

    It is curious though the one blog seems to able to continue to have posts up that contain excerpts.

    The publication of the D&C order, with the "personal" attack in it - is just unprofessional and uncalled for.

    The whole mess is just that a mess - I am going to stay out of the "drama" and just wait for the books to get published (as soon as possible).

    All we want are the facts - all this drama, speculation, backstabbing, etc. etc. just gives the Palin camp a reason to smile.

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  116. Anonymous12:46 AM

    Chew on this for a little while:

    "Anchorage activist Andree McLeod, meanwhile, is charging that Bailey, Morris and Devon are acting unethically by trying to make money off a book based on emails Bailey collected as a state employee. McLeod first filed an ethics complaint against Bailey last year when she found out he was working on the book.

    The executive ethics act bars current or former public officials from using information gained during the course of their work for personal gain if the information hasn’t been publicly disseminated."

    Do you think that maybe NOW the info has been "publicly disseminated"? And, why would JM help them "publicly disseminate" it? THINK!!!!

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  117. Anonymous2:01 AM

    One of Andree's lawsuits claimed that Bailey was prohibited by state law from profiting from the use of emails that had not been "disseminated." Personally, I think this was his way of disseminating them.

    Interesting! Could well be…

    Your comment about Syrin rather shocks me. I never quite forgave AKM for being so draconian in her anti-babygate stance, but I never thought she would do active mischief.

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  118. Anonymous2:07 AM

    "Breitbartism"

    I love that coinage!

    Breit•bart•ism noun The smearing of perceived enemies via transparent and comical, yet vicious and damaging, play-acting, falsehoods, and obvious media manipulation for propaganda purposes. Evil buffoonery.

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  119. Anonymous3:18 AM

    Well, what does Joe McGuinniss say about this?

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  120. Anonymous4:05 AM

    Sounds like something Palin's people would do. Badly written, badly spelled, and bad punctuation. RAM is that you? I see you still have not figured out how to use spell check.
    I am waiting until all sides in this silly fiasco have had their say.

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  121. Anonymous4:07 AM

    @6:20, I see what you're saying and I agree somewhat, but do you realize that the Vanity Fair article you link to is from last Fall??

    This whole mini fiasco reminds me of the wise words of one Ron Burgundy: "This is bush league!".

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  122. Anonymous4:45 AM

    All it takes is one unethical person in the loop to get it on teh internets.

    Which is why forwarding it under any circumstances was wrong. Whatever Joe's or anyone else's motives might have been, the more people that get it in their email boxes ups the chances that one of those recipients is weak link.

    I just hope a publisher steps up quickly. Best of luck to the authors in that regard.

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  123. Anonymous5:02 AM

    Anon @ 7:34: I am starting to believe the same thing: Bailey benefits from the leak because there would be problems publishing the book in its current form because it relies so heavily on the emails. As I understand it now, Palin actually "owns" the emails she sent out.

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  124. I doubt Joe McG did this. It seems like someone used his name to make an email account, how hard is that? He is not replying because it is not his email address. And look who received the copies, only Alaskan bloggers? It might not be Palin herself, but people behind her, trying to protect her by making bloggers look bad. Figuring the anti-Palinites would put excerpts on their blogs, she had to do something because the Tawd the Pimp story is about to break.

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  125. Anonymous10:37 AM

    Yep, RAM is here trying to spin her ass off.

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  126. Anonymous10:55 AM

    "Not taking precautions in the first place was reckless conduct on the part of someone on the side of the authors. So, if it was not on purpose for some reason, someone was really careless.
    8:42 PM"

    Correct.

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  127. There's no big mystery here.

    Bailey and his co-authors got wind that Mcleod was filing an ethics complaint on Bailey, so in order to protect their project they cooked up a bogus fingers pointing backwards lawsuit campaign to blame McGinnis. As a bonus, the authors will cast aspersions on one of their main competitors for future book sales.

    In the big picture everyone wins because more controversy sells more books all around, plain and simple.

    Most people couldn't give a chipmunks patootie about all this typical Alaskan blogger Sturm Und Drang, but it might give Bailey's book legs as a minor news story. (and a magazine article the co-authors can sell as the story within the story of course. Further $$ for them.)

    Just my take on things hope no one is offended but on the other hand I really don't care.

    Oh and isn't it about time for Morgan Wormtongue to show up here in multiple posts blaming Patrick for all this?

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