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Thursday, March 03, 2011
Hate Comes to Orange County. Muslim relief organization attempts to raise money for women's shelter. This is the result.
(If video does not play for you, please click here.)
This kind of hate is the result of Fox News propaganda, Sarah Palin tweets, Right Wing radio fear mongers, and an uneducated populace.
I can't help wondering if Sarah Palin would have tweeted, "Common sense & decency absent as wacko "church" allowed hate msgs spewed" in response to THESE protesters?
This is what people of an Islamic faith, in NO way connected to any acts of terrorism, are subjected to in one of the most liberal states in the union. Imagine what it must be like for them in more conservative areas.
If this does not absolutely break your heart than I worry for your humanity.
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THANK YOU for posting this Gryph. I'm shaking still from watching it.
ReplyDeleteSJP
Orange County is not a bastion of enlightenment.
ReplyDeleteThe place is thick with conservative republicans and the rich and tacky.
This makes me sick.
That is just heartbreaking.
ReplyDeletethe US is going to shit.
ReplyDeleteall i can say.
bill in belize
Oh, this so truly stabs at my heart.
ReplyDeletePlease tell me this has played on national news. Unfortunately my broken heart is not so sure anymore that the masses of people would find this abhorrent.
What a breath-taking shame upon this land.
Calif may be blue, but Orange County is as red as they get. It's really a very odd place - sandwiched between LA & San Diego, but doesn't change that it is very red.
ReplyDeleteI had to force myself to watch it all. You're right, it's heart breaking.
ReplyDeleteIt reminds me of all these hateful scenes in the 60s during school integration.
What is wrong with people anymore? It is like everyone in this country has lost their freaking mind.
ReplyDeleteThis place is going to shit. What a shame that those people in Orange County feel that screaming at people is the right way to behave.
Couldn't listen to this because the sound on my computer isn't working, but
ReplyDeleteOrange County has long been one of the most conservative counties in California.
Sorry about Orange County. :-( We go on vacation to Newport Beach June 4th-10th. We'll act like we're old money. Our friends are African Americans so it should be interesting ;-)
ReplyDeleteJaye
YEs, the US is going to shit. And the President is capitalizing on it.
ReplyDeleteshameful. disgusting. and we ain't seen nothing yet.
ReplyDeleteIt's horrible how people treat one another. How different things could be if these people would read the Bible and honestly treat others as commanded "Love thy neighbor as thyself." Why does anyone who calls him/herself Christian think that it's in anyway okay to hate others?
ReplyDeleteLately I've been thinking just what an awful place our world has become. And we have nowhere else to go.
Something that touched my heart recently during the recent turmoil in Egypt was when a Christian man shielded a Muslim man while he prayed. That is love.
People can disagree with one another on many issues, to include religion, but there is never any excuse for the hatred poured on the people in this video.
As far as lumping all Muslims in with terrorists, how about lumping all Christians in with the Westboro lot? An entire population of people cannot be categorized based on the actions of some.
I am embarrassed to live in the same country with these idiots. They just call out crazy crap that makes no sense at all. These people wrap themselves in the flag, but have no idea what our country is about nor do they even understand democracy. Such ignorance and hate makes me want to hurl. Orange county is well known as a good place to stay away from, too many idiots and hateful people.
ReplyDeleteOT: Shailey Trip has a fairly long post up at her blog about her feelings and thoughts on Todd Palin.
ReplyDeleteGryph, Do you think anything will come of the Shailey story? I hate it when they seem like teflon!
OMG, I had no idea things were this bad. I'm lucky that I live in such a beautiful diverse place such as Denver and go to such a beautiful diverse institution like UC at Denver. I am sick after watching this. I will share this with as many people as possible, because it needs to be seen. Those children must have been so scared, and I feel so sorry for them. I really respect how they were able to all hold their so heads high and carry themselves with such dignity and walk into that function so gracefully with all of that filth and trash and hate going on in such close proximity. None of those protestors would even have a shred of that same integrity.
ReplyDeleteDo Not Know where to begin.
ReplyDeleteMost of the shrieking comes from women... FROM WOMEN!
I am screaming inside:
THIS IS WRONG!
Just as female circumcision is still supported by the old women who survived it, just as abortion control is still supported by women who had no choice in their youth... THIS IS WRONG...
Oh! And yelling at the Muslims to "go back to where you came from!" Using that logic, any white person thinking along those lines needs to apply it to him/herself as well. Holy cow, this has touched a nerve!
ReplyDeleteWhat the fuck is the matter with these people???? I know, they have been brain washed by Fox!!
ReplyDeleteThank you for showing this, and I hope it will get national attention.
ReplyDeleteThank you for showing this, and I hope it will get national attention.
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable! Reminds me of the 60's when civil rights demonstrators were harrassed. Prejudice and bigotry lives unfortunately.
ReplyDeleteOrange county is known for its conservatism.
Today on Andrew Sullivan
ReplyDelete"Religious fundamentalism is dangerous because it cannot accept ambiguity and diversity and is therefore inherently intolerant. Such intolerance, in the name of virtue, is ruthless and uses political power to destroy what it cannot convert. It is dangerous, especially in America, because it is anti-democratic and is suspicious of 'the other,' in whatever form that 'other' might appear. To maintain itself, fundamentalism must always define 'the other' as deviant," - the late and great Peter Gomes.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/03/quote-2.html
I need not draw nor spell out the obvious parallel between this type of behavior and that of another fervent band of zealots in the not too distant past. You know the period...you know the country.
ReplyDeleteThis is beyond repulsive.
“You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. (Matthew 5:43-45)
ReplyDeleteYeah, straight out of the Bible. Wonder if any of those protesters have actually read it.
Sorry I'm posting so much, but this is such an awful situation.
I also love the way that these idiots chant "USA! USA!" as if to declare that pride in one's country necessarily carries with it the obligation to behave as a myopic, uneducated, and intolerant prick. "USA! USA!" - indeed. Impotent rage at its finest.
ReplyDeleteThis is one of the ugliest things I have ever seen in this country. I can hardly believe it. And those politicians ... it is scary to think that they actually got elected. Those protestors and those politicians represent everything that is not truly American. I wish everyone could see this video. We so need to rise above all this "Christian" crap and get back to brotherly love. I worry that it will take longer than I have to see it.
ReplyDeleteWords fail me.
ReplyDeleteIgnorant azzez, all. I know how these Muslims feel. It's the same way I felt as people like these said vicious, ugly things to me as I was growing up under segregation in this country because I did not look like them. This is also the reason I am a liberal, and I don't vote for republicans.
ReplyDelete10:00 AM--STFU, hate monger, and KMBA, and the president's too.
ReplyDelete@10 am, you must be a Palin, the idiocy of your remark is so amazing. How does anyone respond, when you've conveyed no coherent thought--the sure sign of a bot?
ReplyDeleteAs utterly painful as this film is to watch, it bears a lesson worth learning: THESE ARE AMERICA'S TALIBAN.
ReplyDeleteMake no mistake that if the radical Right Wing has its way, this kind of behavior will be commonplace. It will not only divide races, but will divide neighbors, states and every minute segment of American society that it can divide.
We shouldall be disgusted by this show of the real temperament of the Right Wing in America.
What idiots those protesters are!
ReplyDeleteDespite what people who have never lived here (or even visited here, for that matter)think, the entire state of California isn't brimming over with liberal, pot-smoking, homosexual loving hippies. Most of the state is rural and conservative in a lot of places. Don't get me wrong, I love it here and love all the diversity that does exist, but we have our share of ignoramuses, too! :)
I just wrote to Orange County Chamber of Commerce about this video. Explained as an Alaskan who was not effected by the economy, who's last trip to OC was 1 1/2 months long for a Christmas/Birthday vacation, that we would not be vacationing this year in OC or returning for a long time. I found the participation of the Congressmen and the council woman appalling. I also called both Congressman's D.C. offices, I explained that AK is conservative (I like to say that when talking with Republicans) financially stable economy, we travel, spend money, buy stuff. Con. Royce's office was receptive not so much at Con. Miller's office, rude and asked if I wanted my complaint passed on to the Congressman, then he hung up before I could say yes.
ReplyDeleteI say a boycott of OC is appropriate
I disagree with what is going on in regards to "free speech..."
ReplyDeleteThe other day, the Christian right hate group Westboro was told they have the right to their free speech, and I saw it being defended here, so I know I risk being called an idiot, but hope you will give this some serious thought.
Here, some of us are horrified as we watch what we are told is free speech, but I think there is more here and it should be defined as something other than "free speech."
In my opinion, NEITHER CASE IS FREE SPEECH. THIS IS VERBAL ABUSE & BULLYING IN THE EXTREME.
We do not allow this kind of behavior in schools. We do not allow this kind of behavior in workplaces. But somehow we have decided we allow it in public, where kids can see how it is used, and other kids are subject to it (never mind those poor parents and the courage it took to keep moving forward).
I think we need to find a way to convince those who think it is correct to help the child who is tormented in school or the woman who deals with workplace harassment that this is the same thing. I think there needs to be laws on the books which would allow those police to demand these hate-filled people leave or arrest them.
Every human being deserves the right to peacefully assemble without being subject to this kind of harassment. And yet, free hate speech prevails...
CA might be liberal, but OC is as rich and red and mean as it gets. More truly awful people per square mile in OC than just about anywhere else in the world, which this tape ably demonstrates.
ReplyDeleteWell, the protesters are right about one thing. The Islamic community SHOULD get out of there. They should take their families, businesses, money, talent, and love & compassion to a community that will appreciate them. Orange County ain't it.
ReplyDeleteThank you for posting this, Gryphen, although it turned my stomach to watch it.
ReplyDeleteFor the poster who gets scared when she/he rides in an airplane with a Moslem, please know that I feel the same chill every time I drive down the highway and see those giant spotlit crosses on the side of the road, every time I watch Christian Broadcasting Network, every time I see an inspirational romance, every time I... You get the idea. Religious fundamentalism and intolerance are scary. But it's Christian fundamentalists that scare me. They're the ones who truly want to destroy this country. Moslems overseas just want us to stop killing them.
I grew up behind the Orange Curtain. There has always been hate there. It's as Red a county as you'd find anywhere in this nation, with ocean views and beautiful on the outside people.
ReplyDelete- kellygrrrl
Griffin, no state is monolithic - there are pockets of reTHUGlican hate in even the bluest of states. Bakersfield ain't Frisco, and Peoria ain't Chicago.
ReplyDeletewhen is Twad and Sarah going to address this? Todd tell us your side of the story. Sarah and your family common sense values with a degree in jornalism. Can you help us out where, when, who, what.. on this Tod story?
ReplyDeletehttp://shaileytripp.yolasite.com/blog/shailey-s-thoughts-on-todd-palin
Troll at 10:00 am
ReplyDeleteI just want to thank you for publcizing Rand Paul's right to work initiative on your website. The unions in this country are too powerful and only looking out for their own overpaid interests. Rand Paul and Scott Walker are the ones pushing real solutions to this problem. Obama is doing nothing.
ReplyDeleteThanks again!
What is wrong with these people.Hollering terrorist to the families AND those poor kids.That was painful to watch.
ReplyDeleteBill in Baltimore Md
What I find frightening, and bare with me on this, is that they make the US flag seem almost like a weapon. They stand in front of it and say these hateful things. They scream at these women and children doing nothing more than passing by, and holding dozens of flags like it gives them license to say anything no matter how hate-filled. Did you hear the one screaming "Why don't you go home and beat up your wife?" I don't understand how they can make this patriotic in any way.
ReplyDeleteEditing suggestion --
ReplyDeleteGryphen, since there are at least three counties named "Orange County," (FL, NY, CA), your headline should give the state, too.
OMG! The ignorance is amazing!
ReplyDeleteI wish one of the people attending the fund raiser would have come out running into the protestors with a simulated bomb strapped to him just to watch those chicken shit bastards scatter into the wind , They are only brave in numbers, Singled out they are weak !
ReplyDeleteOrange County is in California, but most Californians wouldn't mind too much if it just disappeared. maybe there's enough room in Wasila for a mass transplant?
ReplyDeleteYorba Linda, California is where Nixon was from. It is pretty right wing. Actually lots of craziness in this country is directly exported from California (including those doctor killers in Kansas). We are a blue state, but like other parts of the country, the blue is concentrated in the big metropolitan areas.
ReplyDeleteThis is the kind of shit that's subtly and not-so-subtly encouraged by the so-called "conservative" talking heads every day. Even some of our elected officials are stoking the coals, and yes, so has Sarah Palin ever since she stepped into the national spotlight. Simply put, this is sad and disgusting. They don't represent "America". They represent a subset of the population that's scared shitless of changing times. This is just a mob of cowards.
ReplyDeleteThank goodness that the one protester explained that "It's not about hate"; I might have been terribly confused on that point otherwise.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't finish watching that. I feel sick now. And as a Californian, I both apologize and note that Orange County isn't a good representation of the best of our state.
ReplyDelete@11:32 The unions in this country are too powerful ...
ReplyDeleteAh, yes. That presumably is why their numbers have decreased from 20% of the workforce to 7% of the workforce over the past 40 years. Thanks for clearing that up for us.
I find this protest Un-American and worthy of the contempt of the entire Country.These hate groups and individuals who support them should be ashamed .If thats possible?
ReplyDelete@10:00 I thought you teabaggers were all about personal responsibity. If you're not responsible for your own fear, hate and bigotry, then who is? Who are you going to blame for it? Or does the personal responsibity mandate only apply to those who need government assistance of some sort? I would suggest that you have a personal responsibility to educate yourself if only to alleviate your fears. You're more likely to fear what you don't know.
ReplyDeleteAnon 10:00 - "I shake a little when I see someone of middle eastern decent on an airplane I am on. This is natural."
ReplyDelete----
No. It's not natural. Your fear is based on ignorance.
Jaye - You'll have a great time in Newport Beach. I'd be shocked if you ran into any prejudice.
angela and others - It's true that Orange County has a voting majority of conservatives and a lot of wealthy people. From the video, it's clear that a bunch of them are disgusting and hateful. I imagine a lot of OC Republicans would be equally disgusted by the protesters in the video. Also consider that almost 1/2 of 2008 OC voters chose Obama.
Obama: 518,925
McCain: 557,370
That's a lot of enlightenment.
My god these people are disgusting. There is a special place in hell for people that yell at young families like that. I would have shielded these people had I been given a chance.
ReplyDeleteFun Fact!
ReplyDeleteYorba Linda is the birthplace of Richard Nixon.
Looks like the place has gone downhill from there . . . .
Gryphen I live in South Orange County. San Clemente to be exacted. I have attended a mosque in Mission Viejo to see what it was about.
ReplyDeleteThe people very loving and kind. I did not care for the seperation of praying area's for men and women, but was greeted with respect by the women.
I also had a couple meetings with the shiekh of the mosque. Very nice and intelligent man.
Orange County is the Mega Church Capitol of Christain Right Wing mean people. All you have to do is drive on the freeway to see how they act. Like crazy monsters.
Rep Ken Calvert is a jerk! I gave up religion because of this place and the hypocrisy of christains. I am now an atheist.
I have been following you since 2008 when Sarah the "Red Star Porn Politican" came on the scene. I despise that women. A big hypocrite.
My mom died last year August 2010. She was a troll of fox news along with the rest of my family. A week before she died she and my family attacked my like these people for my liberal views. They acted like wild, violent animals.
I was the one that slept by my mom's side and took her to the bathroom and did what ever she needed not my Republican brothers and their families.
I love Orange County it has beautiful beaches, but many of the people are ugly.
I have developed a couple blogs and if you are interested check them out.
www.darkredsecrets.blogspot.com
I am ashamed and I wept.
ReplyDeleteNo question in my mind who the terrorist heathen barbarians are in this video.
This is no longer the country I grew up in. Or maybe it was a fantasy even way back then? One where all were accepted. I grew away from a prejudiced family as I saw the error of their ways.
ReplyDeleteWhen I see things like this it makes me glad that I am old...
Too bad these idiots can't see the truth about their government's complicity in all those things they so love to hate. Julian Assange saw it and DID something about it.
I would be ashamed to say I am from California, except this is the OC.
ReplyDeleteScorpie
My stomach is in a knot from watching that. I grew up in Buena Park and Fullerton and lived there until I was 22. My parents were friends with the Knott family of Knott's Berry Farm. I can tell you that OC is a stronghold of the John Birch Society. Walt Disney had tremendous influence in OC conservative politics. This is so disgusting. How do any of those unChristian people pretend to be Christian. I just love (hate) their unChristian "holier-than-thou" attitude.
ReplyDeletePlease post the link for the Orange County Register so that we can all write letters to the editor.
As someone from Europe, this is really scary. It only takes a person or movement to highjack a whole generation or faith just because of their twisted views. All in the name of some God or ideology.
ReplyDeleteAfterwards we'll wonder how it became so bad and look at each other with the question "whose fault was it ?". And then a lot of people'll say 'Wir haben es nicht gewust" (A German 'verb' used after the war: "We didn't know"). Is this a possible future for the US ? I hope not.
I was going to say, you must never have been to California--especially Orange County. As a rule, Orange County has a very high percentage of rich necks (and just plain necks).
ReplyDeleteThey're not all like the Bluths of Newport Beach in Arrested Development........
What Angela said...
ReplyDeleteShe is absolutely, 100% right on. I grew up near there, my family moved and is now LIVING in OC (NOT "the" OC). It is a right-wing, Newt-loving piss-pot of Cons and Tea Baggers, ESPECIALLY toward Yorba Linda, Anaheim Hills and southward from Orange on down to the San Diego County border. Palin spoke there last year, in Irvine. OC is also where Saddleback Church, home of Rev. Rick Warren is. They are redneck with class and taste... such as they are.
Gryphen I'm heartsick. This morning scanning the headlines at HP I thought that I need to stick my head in the sand. I don't understand the madness that is possessing our country. This video is so vile. How does someone become so consumed by hatred and self-righteousness? It's beyond my comprehension. I cry for our country.
ReplyDeleteThe right wing, the tea party people are destroying your country and your reputation. The ignorance and disgusting behaviour disguised as patriotism are shocking. Bill in Belize is right your country is going to shit. It's just to the point where we refuse to even consider vacationing or visiting the US. We'll stay home where people have a better attitude about their fellow man and where civility is the rule. Watching this from outside of your country we really believe that unless there is radical change, starting with election reform, there is no hope for your future in a civilized and progressive world.
ReplyDeleteA Shocked Canadian
Rand supporter,
ReplyDeleteI couldn't agree more. The crazies in Wisconsin would be happy to bankrupt every state in the union. Kudos to Gryphon for not buying into the liberal crap about 'working families'.
I'm sorry, I couldn't listen past about a minute and a half. What have we become?
ReplyDelete12:05,
ReplyDeleteTell me then how we've come to pay people money we can't afford. States are forced into this situation and removing collective bargaining is the only way to deal with this in the long term. Gryph is right for getting behind Rand Paul on this.
Gryphen,
ReplyDeleteI am going to suggest what is happening is slander (and even libel if you read through the info below) and those of us who want to truly stop this kind of thing need to get some legal muscle behind us.
I clearly heard those people calling the Muslim people gathering there "perverts."
Here are some definitions of slander:
Slander is the spoken or transitory form of defamation of character, a legal term that refers to a falsehood presented as true which could harm the reputation of a person or entity. Slander also encompasses body gestures as in the case of sign language. If defamation of character is placed in a fixed form, as in the case of a sign, published paper, film or recording, it is considered libel. In short, slander is temporarily uttered or gesticulated, libel is published or otherwise fixed.
Slander is a tort, or civil law, meaning a civil lawsuit can be brought against someone who is accused of slander. In the United States certain facts must be established for someone to be found guilty of slander. Assuming there is proof that the defendant uttered the alleged statement, the statement must be overheard by someone other than the subject or other “privileged” parties. Slander must also clearly identify the party or entity, and the intent must be malicious.
The more people that are party to a falsehood, the greater the potential for harm to the plaintiff. For this reason, libel cases generally award more damages than cases of slander, as libel reaches a greater audience. With the advent of the Internet, many types instantly published, worldwide communications have become fodder for libel cases. Online libel is sometimes referred to as cyberlibel.
In cases like these, I think we need laws to allow the police to collect names and driver's license numbers of the people spewing slander, if the people on the other side want to prosecute, so these hateful people know they are not going to be able to continue to do this in anonymity, which is how so much of what is horrifying happens in our world.
All I can do, in response to such hatred,
ReplyDeletein my shock after watching this,
is to 'love a neighbor' or try to do something
helpful for someone different from myself.
It is truly heartbreaking
(but Thank God(s) that someone captured the video).
Anonymous @1:12 Tell me then how we've come to pay people money we can't afford.
ReplyDeleteI "agree". We are paying people money we can't afford. For example, the top 1 percentile of households took home 23.5 percent of total income in 2007, the largest share since 1928.
You're welcome to suck up to the rich and their attempts to destroy the middle class if you like. But I won't be joining you in that ridiculous undertaking.
I am ASHAMED! I am ashamed to be known as a countrywoman to that kind of hatred and ignorance.
ReplyDeleteThese folks are raising money to help protect and care for the "widow and orphan" that the Christian Bible states is the duty of us all. What excuse can be powerful enough for those so-called Christians to call that abuse them so, and to call that "terrorism"?
I am sick at heart, I am ashamed.
Why do these Islamaphobes not realize that when they marginalize and alienate the non-radical Moslems they are essentially driving them into the arms of Al Qaeda? Are they that fucking stupid?
ReplyDeleteApparently so.
Ah, the labors of Fox News are bearing fruit.
ReplyDeleteJim in Texas,
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you go over the sea o' pee where you and Sarah can talk about your love for your union "brothers and sisters"? Were you and Todd union members together?
Rand Paul has real solutions. Sarah is a fool. Go troll somewhere else.
Sorry, Gryph, but you didn't do enough research on this issue.
ReplyDeleteHere's the announcement for the event straight from the website of the sponsoring organization: "ICNA Relief is pleased to announce its 2nd annual fund raising dinner at the Yorba Linda Community Center in Yorba Linda, CA ... Attendees will benefit from inspirational lectures from Imam Siraj Wahhaj and Imam Amir Abdel Malik."
And here's the reputation of one of the two speakers: "University of California, Irvine (UCI) Chancellor Michael Drake condemned remarks endorsing terrorism made by Amir Abdel Malik Ali while the Oakland-based pro-Palestinian activist spoke on campus last week [in 2010]. Drake’s May 15 statement decried Ali’s claim to support terrorist groups who call for Israel’s destruction as a breach of UCI’s commitment to values and civility."
It is not hate to point out there are Muslim organizations in Orange County that support terrorist groups.
The stupidity is breathless..
ReplyDeleteI grew up in the DEEP south with Haley Barbour in the 60's-70's, and just had the drastic bad luck to spend 6 months in Houston, Tx... Now living IN Orange county in SoCal where in 2011, it is - BY FAR - the most racist and bigoted place I've ever been - EVER.
I'll give you one example.. grocery shopping at one of the local markets back during the Healthcare debate, I was confronted at the market exit by a NYC Converted pretzel cart as a display of ALL THINGS HITLER with skinheads actively working the crowd coming out of the market... Patches, shields, pamphlets, meeting materials, gathering places, etc. all trying to convince folks that Obama was the anti-christ. Some of the deepest, ignorance and self-loathing I've witnessed in a long time.
But it's real - here in Southern California and it's REALLY starting to get on peoples nerves...
Truly truly disgusting, IMHO this is America at it's worst. People like Palin, Beck & Fox News continue to foster and nurture this despicable form of abuse toward other Americans.
ReplyDeleteIt is not just disheartening, it is vial. This video is by product of that vapid & vitriolic woman, Ms. Sarah Palin.
A rabbi is involved with this?! What does he want to do, round up the Muslims and send them to concentration camps?
ReplyDeletePure, unadulterated evil? Look in the mirror. I am embarrassed to be an American, if this is what being a "rill American" is supposed to be.
ReplyDeleteCut California some slack. This is behind the Orange Curtain. Nixon country. It's always been Asshole Central.
ReplyDeleteAt the 4:06 point there is a screechy voice that is eerily familiar. I don't thing the Brand was in Yorba Linda, but her voice sure was.
ReplyDeleteI am a Californian, Orange County is not representative of California in the least. It is a very unpleasant right wing pocket. I'm not saying there are not decent people there, but what you are seeing is why it has such a repulsive reputation.
ReplyDeletedisgusting neocon flag desecration for children
ReplyDeleteGo out of your way to befriend Muslims.
Learn about them, learn from them.
That flag means mutual respect.
The truth destroys Neocons.
signed, US Navy veterans
Orange County has a lot of very wealthy people and they are very conser.a.turd. I know a few people who live in OC they aren't very nice. I am sure that not all people in OC are like those tea-haddist.
ReplyDeletei have followed your blog since palin crawled onto the national scene. it helped to know there were others as shocked and saddened and scared when she gathered momentum. but i have never commented. this video scares the crap out of me. this behavior takes me back to the riots after MLK was murdered. i was a boy on the south side of chicago and the riots made me feel like the country was falling apart. the fact that the country overcame that moment in history is the only reason i can see this video and hope that this is just the worst of us and not representative of the country.
ReplyDeletepeace
America needs a Hate Crimes law to put a muzzle on these types of people and that Westboro Church of Hate
ReplyDeleteI had to stop watching after only a few seconds. Who are those freaks waving my flag?
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