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Hoping to disprove the conspiracy theory when I initiated work on my book--and to put the story to bed once and for all--I interviewed several close associates of Palin's, including her friends and political allies. I was anticipating, perhaps even hoping, that they would tell me conclusively that Trig was her child.
I was shocked by the response. One close friend of Palin's--a widely respected woman who had given birth to several children as well and who had close contact with Palin in Juneau up until the time of Trig's birth--told me that "Palin did not look like she was pregnant. Ever. Even when she had the bulging belly, I never felt that the rest of her body, her face especially, looked like she was pregnant." When I asked her point-blank if she was certain the baby was Palin's, she said, "No. I don't know what to believe."
The news of Palin's pregnancy came as a complete surprise to Palin's State Trooper security detail Gary Wheeler, a well-liked, 26-year veteran of the Alaska State Troopers who worked under several administrations in Alaska state government, both Republicans and Democrats. Only two weeks earlier, in late February of 2008, Wheeler had accompanied Palin back to Washington, D.C. for a Republican Governors Association Conference, where she had just met John McCain and his campaign manager Rick Davis, who was to be in charge of the vice-presidential nomination selection process. Wheeler remembers that Palin had changed into jeans upon her arrival in Washington, with no apparent revelation of pregnancy.
Wheeler also said that his wife, Corky, actually made fun of him when the news came out because he was supposed to be a "trained observer." Wheeler simply shakes his head: "I had nary an idea she was packin'."
As Wesley Loy of the Anchorage Daily News reported it at the time, Governor Palin "shocked and awed just about everybody around the Capitol" with her announcement.
This is at seven months.
Oh my friends this is very good stuff indeed! Do yourself a favor and click that link at the top to read the entire article, you will NOT be sorry!
Is anybody else having as much fun today as I am?
Blind Allegiance #9 on Amazon - with a bullet!
ReplyDeleteYou betcha...game on! Going viral on Twitter and the Internet.
ReplyDelete"Scharlott's initial contention that Palin orchestrated an elaborate "hoax" around the birth of Trig does not hold up to close scrutiny. It remains a premise, not a fact."
ReplyDeleteToo bad Dunn remains unconvinced. What could convince him given all the evidence that is already out there? How good will his book be if he cannot get to the bottom of this issue?
Yay. I'm SO relieved Dunn addresses this in his book!
ReplyDeleteNikogriego, I was upset when I read that as well, but if you read the entire piece, you will see that he admits he does not really know what to believe but wants her to produce the birth certificate. At the very least, he holds her accountable for her words and actions
ReplyDeleteI first read the piece on Phil Munger's site and left this comment:
I had a child born with juandice after my water broke. He was in the hospital for THREE days under treatment (which is pretty standard). Then he was sent home and I was told to come in again the next day to have him re-examined. Trig had juandice, a hole in his heart and was premature. A premature baby is in the neo-natal unit, which Mat-su Hospital did not have. So, how was he treated?! Palin then brought Trig to her office THREE days after he was born to show him off. If this is not a bold faced lie, then please tell me what is? If you don't want to use the word "hoax," then call it what it is a "LIE."
@2:26 - that's the "safe" position to have in terms of winning those over who have not yet examined the hoax. Dunn says he could not prove that she was pregnant, though.
ReplyDeleteComing from his background as an investigative journalist, Dunn is understandably drawn to those verifiable, "provable" instances in which Sarah's lies and deceits can be refuted.
ReplyDeleteLike many habitual liars, she has provided so, so many that it is challenging to call her out on each one in this passing parade of lie upon lie.
I believe that Dunn provides a valuable approach, by simply and directly refuting what is refutable. One by one he can build a case that is unarguably factual, and for that reason, compelling.
Blind Allegiance is currently number one on the "Bestsellers in Political Leader Biographies" list at Amazon!
ReplyDeleteWe are having a better day than quitter queen is.
ReplyDeleteI hought this was going to be on huffpo
ReplyDeleteI always maintained that she tried to abort the baby naturally, while having it look as an accident. Doing a speech, taking a plane ride etc.
ReplyDeleteShe tried to abort the baby and make it look like an accident. Doing the speech, riding in the airplane etc, on that day.
ReplyDeleteWell, RAM wanted Scarah to get more attention. Do you think this is what she had in mind?
ReplyDeleteBe careful what you ask for, RAM!
(Although we're all getting what we asked for, and it's even better than I'd hoped!)
Wasilla in the house, everywhere I go!
ReplyDeleteExcellent article by Dunn. I have to agree that the birth story put forth by Palin is terrible. I have never understood why it was accepted and actually applauded, when it indicates that she had horrible judgment and no love for the baby she supposedly carried. The real crime with the hoax (in my opinion) is the coverup by the repubs and McCain campaign (who I believe had to know). I don't care so much that she covered for her daughter. I care that McCain and the Repub party were so low that they would try to foist this nutcase on the American people. That, to me, is the biggest crime.
ReplyDeleteno woman hides her pregnancy -- even a first pregnancy -- from everyone. it's impossible. even with my first pregnancy when i thought i was pretty sly and no one knew i was pregnant, and when i announced it at 12 weeks, many older women who had had babies told me they had suspected. and it's not the belly bulge that gives you away. i can spot pregnant women now myself. it's in the way they walk and the way they hold themselves.
ReplyDeletethere are so many things that add up to palin not being pregnant, but the fact that not one person suspected she was pregnant (for the 7th time!) is probably one of the best indicators.
What I think is going to have to happen is a lawsuit to establish cause--probable fraud--in order to gain access to HIPPA-protected records on Palin's pregnancy. And nobody's going to do that unless and until she announces her candidacy for prez. At that point the press and political operatives will become as rabid about the pregnancy records as they were about John Kerry's battle records and Geo Bush's air force reserve records. Would you like that Sarah? Or would you like to clear the air now...and whatever conscience you may have.
ReplyDeleteBless Geoffrey for his persistence and integrity in pursuing all the info for his book. Will be buying his book as well as the other two.
ReplyDeleteScorpie
Gryphen, you are on a roll today....Loved all the posts!
ReplyDeleteHey! You cannot say "Geoffrey Dunn" without using the descriptor 'award-winning.'
ReplyDeleteIt is easier of you develop a macro that has it as all one word - awardwinningjournalistGeoffreyDunn.
Just another stupid book by another hating hater.
ReplyDeleteGod bless Sarah Palin. God bless the Star of the North, our next president.
The sun is shining but i can't get enough of this blog!!
ReplyDeleteIts interesting how $cara decided to hire tawd for "security"on her texas/wildride trip instead of the usual statetroopers.
The only thing that will solve this is DNA!!
Dunn has it exactly right. Sarah, first prove you birthed Trig. Then, explain your criminally reckless decisions on April 17-18, 2008. As a "pro-life" activist, you are obligated to do so.
ReplyDeleteOh, this is getting better and better. I can't wait until she is finally exposed as the fraud we have known her to be all along. The sea of pee-ers can continue to follow the yellow brick road but when they look behind the curtain they will see the pathetic woman who has been hiding behind it all along.
ReplyDeleteThe McCain 2008 campaign did not make the selection of Sarah Palin. They did agree under pressure at the last minute to go along with her as the V.P. nominee. John McCain and his loyal insiders intended Joe Lieberman to be the nominee. Party switcher bipartisan Joe Lieberman.
ReplyDeleteThere were others in the Republican party that did not support this idea. The religious right wing of the Republican Party. They were the ones that picked Sarah Palin for John McCain. The Republican Party was told: "If you pick Lieberman then we will go to our churches and tell our followers to stay home on election day. No grassroots turn out the vote effort, no volunteers, no campaign donations; all down the ticket nationwide." It would have been a Democratic victory of FDR proportions nationwide. That is how Sarah was the V.P. nominee in 2008.
The question is: Which of those responsible for telling McCain that Sarah Palin was the V.P. nominee knew about this pregnancy? The campaign to put Sarah Palin on the McCain 2008 ticket was already underway before the conception date of a hypothetical full term pregnancy ending on April 18, 2008.
That's one possible explanation for the silence from the McCain insiders.
teeluck @ 2:47/48
ReplyDeletehow could she purposely try to "abort" the baby when there was no baby to "abort" in the first place ?........myself, as a long time Alaskan, $carah's ALWAYS had my built in bullshit meter pegged/redlined. $he's full of shit and it's waaaay past time for the bitch to be brought down, goes for Cathy Baldwin Johnson/McCain and anyone else who's complicit with babygate as well. Troopergate, housegate, Matanuska Dairygate, any and all of 'em also too. Fuk her, fuk her all to hell...
Why isn't c4p talking about true Hollywood story I thought they wanted the media to talk about her?
ReplyDeleteHere is what I posted under the article:
ReplyDelete"Mr. Dunn: I'm puzzled by your taking exception to my writing Palin "likely" perpetrated a hoax. Your words: "Scharlott's initial contention that Palin orchestrated an elaborate 'hoax' around the birth of Trig does not hold up to close scrutiny. It remains a premise, not a fact." My word "likely," of course, means I am not trying to state a fact, but making a statement about probability.
"Are you suggesting it is unwise for me to use the word "likely" because you think it "unlikely" she staged a hoax? I imagine your instincts in the matter are exactly the same as mine -- that the odds are better than 50-50 (the common definition of “likely”) she is not Trig's birth mother. You no doubt have your reasons for not assigning a probability, and that is fine. But I do not think you have been fair to me -- I explicitly state that I cannot prove the case. For whatever reason, you have chosen to mischaracterize what I wrote."
Still, I find the piece very useful and I'm glad he wrote it.
Brad
Gryphen, we are all having a blast right along beside you. You are really good at this job, hats off to you again.
ReplyDeleteOf course, you have got the Heaths/Palins cousins all stirred up and they are trying to keep from humping their dog.
Dunn doesn't believe it either. You can tell he's focusing on the wild ride. Too bad.
ReplyDeleteWell, get ready for the trolls fairy tale of family eating at Red Robin, taking pictures, cousins having sex and Sarah just being herself and throwing a fit while trying to keep that crown on her bumpkit.
ReplyDeleteOf course, Toad is no where to be found unless you check out the massage parlors. He is getting the rubba dub dub with 3 men in a tub.
Mr. Dunn must not be much of an investigator or he would have found the person who swears Palin was pregnant on the treadmill. In fact, sounds like there was no overlap in his sources and Malley's sources.
ReplyDelete"Scharlott's initial contention that Palin orchestrated an elaborate "hoax" around the birth of Trig does not hold up to close scrutiny. It remains a premise, not a fact."
ReplyDeleteBut Scharlott never contended any such thing!
3 books coming out. Perhaps it will be a tsunami rather than a steady drip, drip, drip. Perhaps someone will finally come forward and bang the last nail in.
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to her pathetic, cowardly spin on all of it.
Me ...I am trying to have as much fun as you ... I just want it to go really, really mainstream. There are details in Mr. Dunn's article that I have never heard and Gryphen, you know that Daisydem has been here for a long time. I didn't even know what blogging was before Palin got tapped by McShame. You tell me when to uncork that bottle of champagne!
ReplyDeleteGryphen,
ReplyDeleteAre there any large roadside billboards in Wasilla or in Anchorage?
3:27: Does God bless liars? I suppose so, but isn't that one of the Ten Commandments? "Thou shalt bear false witness against thy neighbor." That's what I was taught anyway. So, even if He blesses her, like he does all His children, I wouldn't think he's very happy with her for breaking His commandment.
ReplyDeleteLinda,
ReplyDeleteExactly! I tried to hide a pregnancy too because I was afraid of losing my job (this was in the 70s). None of the guys guessed but a female coworker called me out at 3 1/2 months.
READ THE COMMENT BELOW from Progressive Alaska and go visit the same website and read the whole blog:
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
Until last night, I had no idea the possibility of this hoax existed. But as an RN, having read a bit about it, consider the following scenario. Bristol is pregnant, is supposedly transferred from one school to another but never attends the second school due to mono (or pregnancy). The plan is to put the kid up for adoption. In early Feb, Bristol has an ultrasound revealing the DS (nuchal fold/other abnormalities). The baby is unadoptable, and a scandal for the governor. After the ultrasound, Bristol is so upset she has a wreck just outside the clinic. SP considers her options and decides to fake the pregnancy to increase her pro life bona fides. Bristol goes into labor the day before the Texas trip. Security is cancelled, the waters break, and the wild ride occurs. End of story.
April 19, 2011 3:20 PM
http://progressivealaska.blogspot.com/2011/04/sarah-palins-version-of-trigs-birth-may.html
O'Malley lied quite a bit in her article OR she didn't even know what her own paper wrote. She was also very unprofessional and DEFENSIVE!
ReplyDeleteHey ManSOUR... What say you about the hoax of Trig? I know you have suspected all along since you've let that slip more than once.
Mrs. Palin is wearing an unusual ring on her left ring finger in the picture shown above. Was this picture taken after she was reported to have thrown her wedding ring into dead Lake Lucille after a fight with Toad? And before she could purchase new one so she could perpetuate the fantasy that the Palin family is solid and supportive of one another?
ReplyDeletePre ordered for Kindle! Cant wait!!
ReplyDeleteI don't think at this point that I cares whether one person believes the wild ride or believes she faked the pregnancy so there was no "wild" ride, just a ride or that she was pregnant and the wild ride endangered the child ... everybody is talking about it! Keep talking!
ReplyDeleteRegarding how this all played out with the McCain campaign, here's what I've always believed. . .
ReplyDeleteWhen they were "vetting" Palin, the campaign asked if there was "anything else we need to know" regarding the family. Drugs. Arrests. Problems at school. Anything. And, of course, Sarah Palin essentially said "Nope. Nothing at all."
So she's chosen by McCain to be on the ticket, and the Bristol/Trig rumors start almost immediately. It reaches a point of critical mass, and the family finally confesses that Bristol is pregnant.
At this point, the McCain campaign is stuck. They can't dump Sarah from the ticket, because it will look awful. They can't claim that Palin lied to them when they asked the question, even though she did. And they can't claim they didn't know, even though they didn't, because it would have revealed what a horrible job they did vetting her. They have no way out, so they essentially just have to say "Yes, we knew all along" and act like it was never a factor.
There is simply no way that anyone would knowingly choose a running mate who had an unwed, pregnant, teenage daughter at the time. It's just too much of a headache to deal with, and I honestly think the McCain campaign had to deal with it because they truly didn't know.
The comments over on "Business Insider" are outrageous for the most part, but one poster brought up an issue that hasn't been touched on before. He/she suggested that the media (mostly men) are loathe to discuss anything involved with giving birth. Yeah, they like sex and dream of sex with $P, but they don't want to think of a baby coming out of her body, much less icky leaking amniotic fluid. I believe that distaste contributed to the "spiral of silence" more than any other single factor.
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This:
ReplyDelete"in late February of 2008, Wheeler had accompanied Palin back to Washington, D.C. for a Republican Governors Association Conference, where she had just met John McCain and his campaign manager Rick Davis, who was to be in charge of the vice-presidential nomination selection process."
Did John McCain ever mention meeting Palin in February? Did HE notice she was PG?
*** Bristol is pregnant, is supposedly transferred from one school to another but never attends the second school due to mono (or pregnancy). ***
ReplyDeleteBZZZT. Try again. Bristol lived in Anchorage with Sarah's sister, attended West High. Thousands of witnesses.
Either way the TriG story turns out it proves she is an idiot. We already had an idiot in the WH for 8 years. If the American people are stupid enough to do that again, those who put her there deserve every bad thing they get. We, on the other hand, do NOT deserve it.
ReplyDeleteIf all the other 'gates' are fully exposed by the 3 books and the emails, then the only one being hurt by never having this particular one come to fruition will be TirG. Hopefully he will be loved and cared for and will never have to know.
I don't suggest that we give up on this, just that her ruination should be complete by September even without it.
I still want to know what happened to Ruffles.
Dunn's article is great. At the least I hope the wild ride story and tape of Palin telling it is widely spread. Her tale clinched it for me the woman's judgment is horrific and she is unqualified to even head up a bake sale.
ReplyDeleteDunn did an excellent job on this. The Palinbots are having fits over there leaving nasty remarks.
ReplyDeleteWe have never heard an impartial obgyn's take on SP's alleged pregnancy or the wild ride. We've heard plenty from moms, and their anecdotes are valuable. But they can vary; the comments on this very post include "no woman tries to hide her pregnancy", and also too "I tried to hide my pregnancy". I'd really like to hear what a pro would say about it.
ReplyDeleteThe state of Alaska needs to investigate Dr. CBJ and the hospital where Trig was born at. Somebody filed false insurance and medical claims and it needs to be investigated. What if poor Jane Smith filed false medical and insurance claims (during Palin's 1/2 term) and the state of Alaska paid the claims, would Palin expect the state go after Jane Smith? You darn tootin' Sarah would go after Jane like she went after Trooper Wooten.
ReplyDeleteKnowing Sarah and how she went after the boy who guessed her email, I'm a guessing Sarah would go after Jane Smith with both barrels a firing.
Re Bailey's book: I'm glad to see lots of confirmation about it today, because yesterday I thought it might be some sort of a hoax! Some questions I still have about it:
ReplyDeleteWhy Howard Books? (A "Christian" imprint?! I assume a significant portion of their target customers comprise Palin fans, so...gosh...that's really puzzling.)
Why is there no press release on S&S's or Howard's website, and no mention of the book in the "Upcoming" sections?
Why does the Amazon link say "Untitled-Sally-Smith"?
Why isn't the ISBN in the ISBN database?
How can it be published just two months after a "draft" was leaked?
And why is there always so much weirdness surrounding anything Palin-related!?!?
"Give Birth Using The Sarah Palin Method"
ReplyDeletehttp://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/give-birth-using-the-sarah-palin-method/
Palin Family Saying:
ReplyDeleteCash, Grass or Gas... Our Coochie Is Not Free.
This has been a GREAT day and a long time coming!!!!! This story is getting harder to ignore. It's almost time for the bots to switch from deniial mode to defending mode. This ought to good. I'm sure there will be some whoppers and Sarah must be gnashing her teeth tonight. Will she come out swinging, go on a binge with her substances of choice or continue with the charade squeezing every last dime out of her infamous run, throwing dignity to the wind? Hey, Martha Stewart did time and got right back into the swing of things barely missing a beat. Sarah may want to use her as a role model.
ReplyDeleteDunn is right Sarah has created a lose, lose, lose scenario.
ReplyDeleteShe put her unborn child at risk if she broke water and did nothing, or she lied about.
She either used false id and possibly committed insurance fraud when she snuck into the amnio clinic with an old Sarah Heath id,or she lied.
She is either willing to do what she demands of Obama or she is a screaming hypocrite. (Sarah, his mother was American therefore by law Obama is America, he doesn't need a birth certificate for that because the Republicans admit he is an American's son.)
She either gave birth in Anchorage or in Wasilla, or not at all,so she lied about at least one of those alternatives.
And who is the wrinkled eared baby?
And why hide the pregnancy if there was one, that is a deceit either of omission or commission.
Interesting the way Sarah puts it in her email. " instead of rga paying for staff, and/or rga (or state) paying...they can pay for Todd."
ReplyDeleteLooks like Sarah treated your Alaskan tax dollars as her personal bank account.
"Let them eat cake," huh Sarah?
Lo said...
ReplyDeleteThe sun is shining but i can't get enough of this blog!!
Its interesting how $cara decided to hire tawd for "security"on her texas/wildride trip instead of the usual statetroopers.
The only thing that will solve this is DNA!!
3:30 PM
If you know Sarah, it is hard to believe she passed up being escorted by an armed guard to Texas. Sarah loved her Secret Service and the attention she receives. Does anybody believe Sarah is going to pass up a studly uniformed armed Alaskan State Trooper following her around in Texas? It's like having a siren on her head and redlights on her ta ta's. Remember the Wasilla Turd at the Belmont Race Track with her falsies? She just loves the attention.
"the fact that not one person suspected she was pregnant (for the 7th time!) is probably one of the best indicators."
ReplyDeleteI've thought that, too.
Sarah had hoped that 2 yrs later the story of her hoa pregnancy would have gone away, without releasing her FULL medicla records she cannot run for pres. She will take the Cof Pee and her followers for every last dime, milking out these next months before spewing that she can do more out of office than in.
ReplyDeleteWhy would any mother continue these rumors instead of releasig their medical records, something that they had promised to do over 2 yrs ago anyway...the only reason is that SHE WAS NEVER PREGNANT WITH TRig.
Teeluck....please do not worry so much, that belly bumpit baby bump was ditched at the hotel in a Northern Dallas suburb and quite safe during Sarah's "wild ride".
I had a fullterm baby with a little jaundice and we had to go back to the hospital for tests in the a.m. and the p.m. for three days. Sarah Palin simply did not believe in Trig and was irresponsible in his care. No way would I have brought a baby to work three days old. She was tempting fate and obviously not concerned about his well being.
ReplyDeleteThe main premise of Professor Scharlott's research seems to be that the press was complicit in a cover-up, no matter which version of the story you choose to believe. The spiral of silence has been deafening.
ReplyDeleteOnly now, with the publication of his draft on the net, has this controversy surfaced in the media, not yet in the MSM.
I find the circumstantial evidence to indicate hoax. No matter which it is, hoax or neglect/abuse, it should preclude The Tundra Turd from any credibility in ANY political conversation.
There is an overwhelming amount of information about $palin's lies about to hit the fan. Maybe a couple of authors are a bit upset about being upstaged by an academic?
Sarah is either negligent or a liar. She is fucked regardless.
ReplyDeleteHas Geoffrey Dunne or Joe McGinnis seen the e-mail that a man wrote to then governor Palin? He spotted her in the Seattle airport on the evening of the wild ride. He didn't want to disturb her because she was reading a book! As a mother and a grandmother, most women are not calmly reading books while in labor. The only wild ride, they want is the drive to the hospital.
ReplyDeleteI'm getting sick and tired of people acting like, just because this has to do with a woman's "private parts," we should just leave it alone.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, this has nothing to do with Sarah's private parts, because she didn't actually carry and give birth to Trig or any other baby in April of 2008.
Second, can people just please GROW UP! This isn't a privacy issue and it isn't an issue of reproductive freedom. And it certainly shouldn't be a "back off, you're talking about a lady" issue. There's nothing wrong about discussing birth and pregnancy. It's not shameful to do so and it's not creepy on its face.
The ONLY reason Sarah was able to carry out this LIE, is because she is a woman and it dealt with her reproductive organs. If you dare question her, you're sexist and a creep.
Meanwhile, our representatives have no trouble discussing women's health issues (including our reproductive freedom..when, how, what if we get pregnant) all over the place. Fox news is talking about where women can get pap smears, but nobody better question Sarah Palin's obviously faked pregnancy.
To prevent future criminals from reproducing, Alaska should pass a law that if a Heath or Palin gives birth, they should be automatically spayed or neutered right there on the spot.
ReplyDelete5:38: "the fact that not one person suspected she was pregnant (for the 7th time!) is probably one of the best indicators."
ReplyDeleteExcept maybe Julia O'Malley and her "sources"? Otherwise, nobody.
Gryphen... I have had the happy feet for several days now
ReplyDeleteSarah.. you are so fucked, but you are probably too dumb to realize.
Does anyone else besides me remember a newsperson saying that while Sarah Palin was campaigning with old McFlubber that she answered the door of her hotel room/suite or whatever wearing only a towel?
ReplyDeleteIt might be worthwhile to ferret out that reporter for a little chat. Surely if old Sarah was really PG at the time a towel would not hide it! Nor would an egocentric prick teaser want to be seen with a 7 month PG belly.
Palin does Hannity tonight.
ReplyDeletePart 1: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html#/v/4653279/
sarah-palin-on-hannity-part-1/?playlist_id=86924
Part 2: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html#/v/4653278/
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Hey Brad @3:41. Well, the joint is ROCKING, yes? And you can take most of the credit. I like your response to Dunn. That comment of his about your paper, and the one where he talks about Palin fiercely protecting her kids...those two comments did not go down well with me. I'm glad you called him out on what he really believes, or the way he's leaning. Now go do that with Andrew Sullivan, who simply must stop saying he's never ACCUSED Palin of the hoax, just asked for evidence. Please, accuse away!
ReplyDeleteAnon at 6:06, your timing is off. The DS child had already been presented by the time she was on the campaign trail. You're thinking of the two reporters from [?] who were there to interview her, and she came out of the bathroom in a towel, sort of a preview for them I guess.
ReplyDeleteEven if the birth story proved out to be true, she should be investigated for abuse of her unborn child. She should be charged with knowingly putting air traveliers at risk, putting an airliner at risk of having to make emergency landing. For not going to a hospital immediately after leaking fluid. All this should be taken into consideration; and she was a public official, who is expected to obey the law.
ReplyDeleteShe put her child in an endangered situation. No one talks about that? WTH is going on here?
And her doctor should be investigated for malpractice.
"Does anyone else besides me remember a newsperson saying that while Sarah Palin was campaigning with old McFlubber that she answered the door of her hotel room/suite or whatever wearing only a towel?
ReplyDeleteIt might be worthwhile to ferret out that reporter for a little chat. Surely if old Sarah was really PG at the time a towel would not hide it! Nor would an egocentric prick teaser want to be seen with a 7 month PG belly."
@6:06, Sarah Palin was not pregnant when she ran for VP with McCain. Were you asleep in Fall '08?
5:40... Palin can indeed run for president without releasing her medical records.
ReplyDeleteShe ran for VP that way didn't she? We all know what "medical records" she released at the last minute -- a fabricated letter with a forged signature.
She got away with it. She always gets away with it.
@4:09 - Alaska law does not allow roadside billboards. Our highways are beautiful.
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ReplyDeleteWe have never heard an impartial obgyn's take on SP's alleged pregnancy or the wild ride.
Quite some years ago, my obgyn told me "if your water breaks, don't call me, call the hospital - then get in the car and get there ASAP"
It happened - and I did - and I still remember the nurse yelling at me that NO - you don't have time to take a shower - you can do that when you are here.
Too bad bloggers couldn't start over from the time Sarah gave the interview for that crazy birth story. If we could push back time and start over again, it would have been smart maybe to take her word, at face value. Instead of focusing on the fact she may not have delivered Trig and was lying, they should have called her bluff.
ReplyDeleteSo, bloggers and the mainstream media should have shown shock and dismay from the story. They should have cornerned her and insisted on asking why she would risk the life of her unborn child that way? Where were the Family Values people, the American Family Association, the Prevention of Child Abuse organizations, Society for Protection of Unborn Children, the Pro-Life Orgs, National Association for Down Syndrome? What kind of parents would be so utterly unconcerned and careless?
No one was paying attention at the inconsistent details of her story. They fell through the cracks. Where was the State of Alaska?
If an unknown woman took a chance like this with their baby's delivery, she would no doubt have the state intervene and immediately send her to a therapist or psychiatric evaluation. And certainly things like this probably happen a lot under the radar, especially with young women on drugs, in unstable conditions.
But this from a sitting Governor AND the sitting Governor's husband? What example did that set? Their callous display of recklessness, traveling like that without seeing a doctor is the most mysterious case in the history of politics.
Mr. Dunn must not be much of an investigator or he would have found the person who swears Palin was pregnant on the treadmill. In fact, sounds like there was no overlap in his sources and Malley's sources.
ReplyDeletelol. Like he's going to give it away for free when his book is on the way. The books will all be better than what the authors are disclosing in advance.
Somewhere there is a restaurant where the entire flippin' family in all it's xtian fecundity goes as a happy family group to eat out and be seen by their blog trolling worshipers. They leave the happy family compound where they happily enjoy each others company; and head out on the highway, looking for adventure, in whatever comes their way.
Their trucks are full of North Slope gas, and all the predators and prey you could eat have been exterminated from the air, so it's happy days are here again. Just last week someone caught the whole thing fiasco and it's on the internet now. Where's RAM? Is that Toad? See how many trolls and bots you can spot. OMG that can't be Joe Miller?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hirZFmRwXvE
I think Sarah was working with evangelists to concoct the best story imaginable that would sway votes from that crowd.
ReplyDeleteanon @ 6:48pm..
ReplyDeletebut wouldn't it be a hoot to erect a billboard on the opposite side of the railroad tracks next to $carahs driveway in a glitzy Las Vegas style ?
8)
4:46 if true then why where there rumors in the Anchorage craigslist, rant and raves saying Bristol was pg way before Sarah announced she was prego?? where were those rumors coming from???? ...SARAH did not birth Trig....
ReplyDeleteI also find it interesting that her security detail, Alaska State Trooper Wheeler, was so surprised about the supposed pregnancy. I guess that he didn't accompany Sarah to any prenatal visits.
ReplyDeleteKudos to the Business Insider for pursuing the case that when it comes to Trig's genesis, well, Palin had "no business inside her".
ReplyDelete6:14 posted:
ReplyDelete"Palin does Hannity tonight.
Part 1: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html#/v/4653279/
sarah-palin-on-hannity-part-1/?playlist_id=86924
Part 2: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html#/v/4653278/
sarah-palin-on-hannity-part-2/?playlist_id=86924 "
Oh jeebers. Sarah: YOU. ARE. NOT. JEWISH. Take that thing off!
And what the heck with the "They're negotiating with the losing party, the Democrats LOST in 2010"? (Paraphrase)
Democrats still hold the Senate and the Presidency (the VETO, jackass), negotiation is a given.
This moron is killing me.
Dunn is "investigative" enough to realize that both a pregnancy hoax or the proud re-telling of blatant disregard for the life of a fetus shows that Sarah Palin is insane.
ReplyDeleteAll a birth certificate would do is prove the true insanity of the wild ride from Texas.
Even Dunn must have looked at the video of Sarah Palin crossing her legs and leaning forward in the Newseek interview a mere 40 some days before the presentation of the 6+lb Trig. Palin's physical movements are impossible for a pregnant woman that close to term (in her 7th pregnancy, no less).
But Dunn "investigates" by interviewing people because he's choosing to ignore the obvious evidence.... guess it will sell some books for him... but not to me.
@ 4:46 pm wrote: "*** Bristol is pregnant, is supposedly transferred from one school to another but never attends the second school due to mono (or pregnancy). ***
ReplyDeleteBZZZT. Try again. Bristol lived in Anchorage with Sarah's sister, attended West High. Thousands of witnesses.
Ya'll otter Try again.
Yeah. So. "Bris' lived in Anchorage and went to West High. AFTER she disappeared from Wasilla high for several months. Most likely she gave birth sometime in late November or December 2007.
That birth didn't become a full tilt 'problem' for Sarah until the following spring when Mr. Kristol and others had packed Sarah's empty head with visions of being selected for VP. Hence the 'surprise' announcement (one day after McCain sewed up the Rep primary)that there was going to be an addition to Alaska's "First Family."
At this point, I wouldn't even accept a birth certificate. Palin has enough money and influence to get someone to forge an official Alaskan birth certificate.
ReplyDeleteI want DNA testing from an independent lab. For that matter, extend it to every single Palin family member, and include Levi. That way he'll know if Tripp is really his. And Todd will know exactly how many of his kids are really his kids.
Trying to make it through the Hannity interview. She's in AZ, and wearing the Star of David. Ugh.
ReplyDeleteAlso, on this Hannity clip, it seems they're hinting of a Trump/Palin ticket. Trump/Palin 2012: You're fired!/I quit!
ReplyDeleteholy shit
ReplyDeletepalin was on hannity , she wore a huge star of david and spoke all BULLSHIT. She is with Trump!
http://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/19/palin-guts-obama-he-has-lied-american-public-and-were-saying-enough-enough
ReplyDeletehttp://nation.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/19/palin-guts-obama-he-has-lied-american-public-and-were-saying-enough-enough
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mediaite.com/tv/sarah-palin-warns-gop-not-to-waste-money-on-cowboy-poetry-and-pretty-monuments%E2%80%99/
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53447.html
WHY did Bristol go to live with her sister in Anchorage?
ReplyDelete7:49, right on. And . . . was that her position when Obama won and Democrats had the House AND the Senate? All for us and none for you? Who writes this crap for her, and who buys it?
ReplyDelete7:51-your facts are wrong too.
ReplyDeleteThat birth didn't become a full tilt 'problem' for Sarah until the following spring when Mr. Kristol and others had packed Sarah's empty head with visions of being selected for VP.
See this article by Jane Mayer
"How John McCain came to pick Sarah Palin".
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=1
During her gubernatorial campaign, Bitney said, he began predicting to Palin that she would make the short list of Republican Vice-Presidential prospects. “She had the biography, I told her, to be a contender,” he recalled. At first, Palin only laughed. But within a few months of being sworn in she and others in her circle noticed that a blogger named Adam Brickley had started a movement to draft her as Vice-President. Palin also learned that a number of prominent conservative pundits would soon be passing through Juneau, on cruises sponsored by right-leaning political magazines. She invited these insiders to the governor’s mansion, and even led some of them on a helicopter tour.
The first cruise:
On June 18, 2007, the first group disembarked in Juneau from the Holland America Line’s M.S. Oosterdam, and went to the governor’s mansion, a white wooden Colonial house with six two-story columns, for lunch. The contingent featured three of The Weekly Standard ’s top writers: William Kristol, the magazine’s Washington-based editor, who is also an Op-Ed columnist for the Times and a regular commentator on “Fox News Sunday”; Fred Barnes, the magazine’s executive editor and the co-host of “The Beltway Boys,” a political talk show on Fox News; and Michael Gerson, the former chief speechwriter for President Bush and a Washington Post columnist.
The second cruise:
On August 1, 2007, a few weeks after the Weekly Standard cruise departed from Juneau, Palin hosted a second boatload of pundits, this time from a cruise featuring associates of National Review. Her guests, arriving on the M.S. Noordam, included Rich Lowry, the magazine’s editor and a syndicated columnist; Robert Bork, the conservative legal scholar and former federal judge; John Bolton, who served as the Bush Administration’s Ambassador to the United Nations from 2004 to 2006; Victor Davis Hanson, a conservative historian who is reportedly a favorite of Vice-President Dick Cheney; and Dick Morris, the ideologically ambidextrous political consultant, who writes a column for The Hill and appears regularly on Fox News.
Gryphen - can you delete Anon @ 8:11. That trash is disgusting.
ReplyDeleteSarah on Hannity again.
ReplyDeleteI didn't watch it and I have no desires to watch dumbass spew her usual garbage. But it seems to me, dumbass is getting pathetically desperate.
So now she's on the Donald Trump bandwagon because he's taking all attention away from her? Good Gawd that woman is a Retard!!
Palin is the most stupid person on the planet. Donald Trump is not running for President and he knows he doesn't stand a chance of winning the Presidency.
This thing is a certifiable nut-bag!
ReplyDeleteNo wonder she needs flying monkeys around.... They're just fodder for the crumbs-on-the-trail trick she's trying to pull, even on her own family....
"...the First Spouse is available...They can pay for Todd..."
ReplyDeleteAs if Todd was on state payroll. As if Todd was justifiable security detail under the Department of Public Safety.
Yeesh.
Even the dipatch is getting into it.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/baby-palin-enough-already
Look at this picture--the eyes.
ReplyDeletehttp://mediamatters.org/blog/201104190040
Of course Bristol is Trig's birth mother. The only thing I wonder about is which rocket scientist picked the name "Trig"?
ReplyDeleteDear God, please make my day. Please let Donald Trump put Sarah Palin on Celebrity Apprentice. Please let that happen and I'll never ask for anything ever again.
ReplyDeletePromise.
As a former flight attendant with several Alaskan-based carriers, I can guarantee you that if ANY woman was at high-risk of giving birth on a commercial airliner DURING FLIGHT, ESPECIALLY with a deformed fetus (for lack of a better term), she NEVER be allowed to fly in the first place - ESPECIALLY if her water has broke/leaking fluid.
ReplyDeleteWhy would ANY airline risk a woman giving birth (especially to a high-risk baby) on the floor of their airplane? Or diverting the airplane from its destination to the nearest airport with emergency services?
I've had a case where an infant went into cardiac-arrest and we hightailed it to Anchorage. The child was in an incubator with an attending nurse. We were somewhat trained for that situation (infant CPR) and the airline obviously gave permission to have the child transportated. (Unfortunately, the child died inflight despite our best efforts.)
I don't know the flight attendants personally on Sarah's 'wild ride', but if THEY didn't notice Sarah supposedly being 1) pregnant and 2) in labor, you can bet Sarah wasn't pregnant. Usually women at that late stage of pregnancy, if allowed to fly in the first place, need an extended seatbelt, which again, did not occur with Sarah. Plus, the flight attendants would have been notified of her condition.
Also, reading in the lounge in Seattle while waiting for her flight to Anchorage - nope, am not an RN, but it doesn't work that way in REAL life.
Occassionaly a pregnant woman will go into labor early on an airplane, but that is very rare. The woman obviously has permission to fly from her doctor - and the airline requires a release from the doctor when, again, a woman is in late stage of her pregnancy.
Just speaking from experience....Sarah Palin in one big LIAR and I hope to G*d, this tale of Trig's supposed birth goes viral. It is imperative that Sarah be exposed for the LIAR that she is and be regulated to the dustbin of history where she deserves to be.
There's a hysterically funny statement from Mrs P up on PoliticusUSA right now where she is claiming that the media is biased against birthers. I hope this means she will tackle the huge question of the Trig pregnancy with utmost fairness, openess and honesty. Ha, when pigs fly.
ReplyDeleteI don't see why vp candidates don't show medical records like the presidential candidates. VP is one heatbeat away from presidency. I would think it would be too late to view medical records if the time ever came that the vp became the president.
ReplyDeleteOrder Frank Baileys book on Amazon, lets get it above Breitbarts! So he can tell us (in whining voice) "you just go to hell".
ReplyDelete7:02 pm comment
ReplyDeleteThanks for wasting my time, that youtube video is of MadMax.
Good article.
ReplyDeleteSomething that may or may not have been mentioned...if SP is surrounded by security and staff everywhere she goes and has a busy schedule as would be expected of someone holding the office of Governor, when did she actually get to her well baby check-ups? I felt like I LIVED at the ob/gyn's office through both pregnancies. How would she sneak those visits into her schedule without ANYONE knowing where she was going and when?
@7:13 - I thnk that sounds mean and vindictive and not designed to further any political agenda except personal destruction. I also think it would backfire.
ReplyDeletePalin herself has refused to offer proof supporting her story that she gave birth to Trig. Whether it's ever proven or not, fact remains that if she did give birth to him, if the "Wild Ride" story is true, then she is beyond a doubt an evil person. If she's his birth mother, she placed the well-being of a high-risk DS baby way down on her list of priorities. It was more important to her to have a "baby born in AK" than it was to deliver a live baby.
ReplyDeleteSo take your choice, Palin supporters: Was she America's most callous, stupid, uncaring pregnant woman? OR is she a liar and not the birth mother of Trig? You can't have it both ways.
Makes no difference to me whether she is or isn't Trig's birth mother. I'm perfectly content to think that she's a disgusting, evil idiot. (Don't tell me to keep it civil Gryphen. I could have called her a much worse name).
Sharon1943
It occurred to me that if this story really gains legs, we may actually LIKE insurance companies for once.
ReplyDeleteSomeone somewhere submitted claims regarding this pregnancy. Hospitals are red-tape oriented. I can't believe no one billed for Trig's birth. If an insurance company strongly suspected fraud was involved, they could request records.
Sarah has surrounded herself with public affairs folks during her stint as Governor and since her resignation. If she did not like the rumors, she could have provided evidence to kill the rumors. If the rumors were about one of her children, most mothers would have done alomost anything to clear the kid's name. Sarah has every opportunity to clear the air on this lie and countless others. She could have disclosed the truth in her book or any number of interviews over the years.
ReplyDeleteWith the books written by Bailey, McGinnis and Dunne scheduled to be printed, all I can say is "Quitter Governor, games on!"
so I keep wondering about the details at the hospital after the wild ride...Palin said she was induced. Since her water had already broken, I assume she would have been given pitocin or something similar to progress the delivery. I would also imagine that she was given an IV. When I had an IV, the entire top of my hand was bruised for a good week or so afterwards. Maybe a medical professional could weigh in here.
ReplyDeleteAny bruising on Palins hands? Non of the post-natal pics I have seen show anything.
Kitty King on Apr 19, 4:25 PM said:
ReplyDeleteDump Trump/Sarah Gump 2012!
Trump: You're Fired!
Palin: I Quit!
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/sarah-palin-trig-birth-2011-4?page=2#ixzz1K4kUq0yD
I LOVE that comment!
Baustin, I had the same experience with brusing after my IVs and so has everyone I know who has ever had one.
ReplyDeleteAnd you are right, if they induced she had an IV.
Another thing, at the risk of offending any prudish folks, I must say that there is no way a woman would wear shorty shorts days after birth - those mattresses they give you as pads would NEVER work under those, ykwim? Additionally, I wasn't sitting comfortably for MANY days after childbirth, but she went to WORK on day 3? Nope, didn't happen.
My daughter has DS, and we didn't know until she was born. It was a moment that changed my life forever, and changed who I am in my heart. I had to learn so much about acceptance and faith and hope and LOVE - but before I could learn those things, I had to experience grief and fear and anger and sadness that was so overwhelming I couldn't function for days. I had to process it all. My eyes were swollen for weeks from the tears. How the hell can Sarah look so fresh faced not only after childbirth, but after having a baby that brings about so many different emotions? She is not human if she didn't experience them, whether she knew ahead or not. Nobody I know who has a child with DS, and there are many, sailed through the early days without missing a beat. NOBODY.
She did not birth that precious baby.
and another thing that keeps coming to my mind is the whole Mercede picture caption thing. Her explanation does not wash with me, she's lying. She called him her new baby brother. No matter how I try to spin that, it doesn't work for me. According to everyone, the families were NOT close, and yet...there were the Johnstons in her kitchen, and OMG Levi was at the HOSPITAL? Does not compute. Nope, not at all. There is so much more to this story, I feel. The Johnstons are more involved than we think, I think...
ReplyDeleteand will someone please ask her on the record where her "advocacy" is? She promised that if they won the election she would be the advocate for special needs...why has none of that figured into her nonstop "performances?" I do know that the answer is because she has nothing to speak of since a. she's done with her prop now that they lost and she has no use for him and b.she doesn't know what it's like to parent a child with special needs because she doesn't do that, his real parent(s) do. But I'd love to hear what she has to say about that.
ReplyDeleteShannyn Moore while on The Thom Hartmann Program just stated that she believed Sara Palin's statements about Trig being her biological child, and was only concerned because of the way Sara behaved extremely irresponsibly when it came to the "wild ride" and other negligent acts while allegedly carrying Trig. This was in response to Thom Hartmann's question about the Scharlott article. What's up with Moore? Does she really believe anything Ms. Palin says?
ReplyDeleteI wish Levi would step forward and step up as the father of Trig. I believe the picture of him holding the really tiny infant was on or shortly after Trig's real birthdate. The dating of that photo was changed. The photo of him with the hospital bracelet was publicized well before Tripp's birth. Bristol and Levi were forced into signing away their child. There would not have been any scrubbing of FB, pics of Bristol, nor any transfers of High Schools, 'mono' - if there wasn't a good reason for it. Bristol had a child during the period in question, SP has the miraculous Trig 6 week 7.5 mo pregnancy. Unless Bristol's baby died, she is the mother of Trig. To think they would cover up such a tragedy and then adopt another infant, this one with DS, is just too monstrous to contemplate. The fact that the MSM continues to suppress valid questions about this family is exactly what the Palins need to play their games. Probably the real story will never be known, but this 'conspiracy' has 1000x's the legitimacy as the one about President Obama's birth certificate (which HP promotes all the time), and deserves to be reported. Americans need the truth about all of these candidates in order to choose the most qualified leaders. HP is grifting, too! I see very little real 'news' presented anywhere. Everyone I know, including conservative Republicans have said if Palin gets elected - I'm moving to Canada! This blog is a reminder to seek the truth and speak out. Thanks for the great writing, the humor, and the hard work it takes to keep at it.
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