Thursday, May 05, 2011

Laura Novak interviews Professor Scharlott about photoshopping and those famous Sarah Palin pictures.

March 14, 2008 photo with "Correct Camera Distortion" applied.
From Laura Novak's blog:

Professor Scharlot: Palin supporters generally try to ignore or belittle photographic evidence. Julia O’Malley, on April 14, in an Anchorage Daily News article with the headline “Make. It. Stop.” wrote this about my research paper titled “Palin, the Press, and the Fake Pregnancy Rumor”: “I read Scharlott's piece. It contains lots of innuendo and some widely-circulated Photoshopped pictures. What is missing from his investigation: facts.”

Notice her use of “Photoshopped” – the implication is the photos are deceptive. But in the case of the above photo, what deception can she possibly be referring to? The picture comes from her own newspaper! If she wants, she can probably go straight to the photographer who took the picture and get a copy from his or her hard drive, just as it was downloaded from the photographer’s camera.

She wrote that my investigation lacks “facts.” (The paper has over 40 footnotes, so it’s brimming with verified, factual information.) But a photograph is also a “fact.” Can she look at the above picture and honestly say she thinks Palin might be seven months pregnant in it? In her article she wrote that Palin’s baby bump was obvious. What baby bump?

Novak: Allow me to interrupt here and say that “obvious” is the last word I would use about this photo. I don’t know what the truth is, but there is no “obvious” pregnancy here.

Professor Scharlott: Exactly! In that same vein, I would like to invite Justin Elliot of Salon, who on April 22 wrote an article with the presumptuous headline “Trig Trutherism: The Definitive Debunker,” to exam the photographic evidence presented here. And after he examines it, I’d like to know if he still feels 100 percent sure Sarah Palin was in fact pregnant with Trig. If his answer is yes, then I’d like him to explain what he makes of this photograph?

I have a doctorate in mass communications from a top school in that field, the University of Wisconsin-Madison, which means I’m a trained researcher. My research has been published in numerous peer-reviewed academic journals. I teach a senior-level college class on research methods. I’m an empiricist. I believe truth can be discovered and verified. And this picture that we have just examined objectively exists, and its truth value can be assessed. Here’s my bottom line from my examination of the photo: I am at least 95 percent confident that Sarah Palin is not seven months pregnant in that photo.

I was also struck by the dismissive nature of Julia O'Malley's use of the term "photoshopped." I remembered thinking "which pictures is she referring to?"  Because none of the really important photographs which demonstrated that Sister Sarah could NOT have been pregnant, were altered in any significant way, EXCEPT that they were occasionally lightened to bring out more detail.

Then it kind of dawned on me that THIS was how people who accepted Palin's version of events were able to completely dismissive the evidence that all of US found so compelling and impossible to ignore.

As a matter of fact the photoshopping accusation was also levied against my post entitled "A Tale of Two Babies by Sarah Palin."

There were some who simply could not comprehend after looking at this picture...


..why the ear deformation is no longer evident  in this picture.


So they automatically assumed that it MUST be the result of some kind of photo manipulation.

However as I carefully illustrated in my post, the picture was taken directly off of (Palin best friend) Kristan Cole's website. The ONLY thing altered was to block out the young lady's face who was holding the child. (And NO that was not one of the Palin kids.)

So personally I am quite interested in learning what Professor Scharlott's expert opinion is on a variety of the iconic photographs which prove, at least to those of use living in the reality based world, that Sarah Palin was NOT pregnant in 2008. And did NOT give birth to a child in April of that year.

And then I would absolutely love to hear a response from Justin Elliot of Salon.com, as well as Julia O'Malley.

108 comments:

  1. Anonymous7:11 AM

    I have given up on the wrinkled ear being a clue that babies were switched. I read that it could be caused by the ear being bunched up in utero and that this kind of deformity could straighten out on its own.

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  2. President Man-Child needs to send in the Navy Seals to scrape around on the bottom of this barrel.

    In the interest of national security as long as he doesn't offend pregnant women everywhere.

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  3. Anonymous7:14 AM

    I have read many of Julia O'Malley's articles. The "Make.It.Stop." article was the first one I had read that was patently absurd. Perhaps she was directed to put it out there. I don't know how she could even sign her name to it.

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  4. Anonymous7:19 AM

    So here's what's interesting about the whole "it must be photoshopped" dismissal:

    If the photo is NOT photoshopped, then the truth it reveals places clear doubt on Sarah Palin's claims of pregnancy on that date.

    Otherwise, what utility does the photoshopping explanation have to the argument?

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  5. The deformed ear photo was originally pointed out to me by a doctor. I consulted several other doctors as well and ALL of them said the ear deformity was NOT the result of being crumpled in utero.

    Nice try though.

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  6. Anonymous7:26 AM

    Oh Effie, don't you have anything constructive to do? Maybe take a course in critical thinking, that would fill your empty life.

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  7. Anonymous7:27 AM

    Photoshop can be used to deceive - and the verb "photoshopped" implies, and is commonly a shorthand for, deceitful photographic representation. In this instance however, Photoshop was not used to deceive, but to illuminate the TRUTH. Shadows from a jacket and a scarf were worn to try to hide a non pregnant belly by physically obfuscating Mrs. Palin's midsection. Nothing about this picture was changed to deceive. It was merely lightened to show what was there - or not there - under the shadows.

    @@ eyes rolling, people. Good try, Palin defenders. It's not going to work forever.

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  8. Anonymous7:35 AM

    Effie @ 7:11am is such an 'effin' fool. Does Effie not have anything better to do, than sit at his/her 'effin' 'puter' waiting to 'effin' jump in as soon as there is a post -- I guess always 'effin' trying to be the 'effin' '1st' to comment is so 'effin' important to those C4Peers. They always make such a BIG 'effin' deal about it.

    Maybe 'effie' should go get a real 'effin' job, or find something else better to do with her 'effin' screwed up mind and sad, pitiful, 'effin' life.

    What an 'effin' waste of oxygen she/he must be!!

    Effie!! Get 'effin' real -- get a life!!!
    Have an 'effin', happy Cinco de Mayo today. :o)

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  9. Anonymous7:36 AM

    This lady should explain how they think the photo of Palin in the black jacket and skirt outfit could possibly have been photoshopped. There is no way. We have the darker version and we simply turned the light up on it.

    Her abdomen is flat. No doubt about it.

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  10. Anonymous7:38 AM

    Isn't interesting that the people defending Palin here use the "it's been photoshoped" reason to claim that Palin WAS actually pregnant, yet I'm betting big bucks that those very same people will take as fact the obviously photoshopped photos of bid Laden's body as absolute truth.

    Nothing like making the narrative fit your belief, regardless of facts or factual evidence. You'd think they're heads would explode! - Hedgewytch

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  11. Anonymous7:47 AM

    Anon at 7:19. Extremely good point and one that needs to be driven home with a hammer. Also, one that the Palinbots need to realize is a huge trap for the unwary. (Them)

    Saying that this or that photo can't be relied on "BECAUSE IT IS PHOTOSHOPPED" means two things:
    1. They are pretty much conceding that the photo shows a non-pregnant person... but it can be safely ignored because it's been altered. This leads to the second point which is:
    2. If the photo could conclusively be shown to NOT be altered, then they are stuck acknowledging the fraud.

    Lightening a photo by using an "adjust" setting on a photo software is NOT "photoshopping." It's no different than, for example, turning up the treble or bass on your stereo. You are not adding anything to the music that's already physically present on the CD - you are just adjusting settings on your stereo to make parts of the music more or less audible.

    Lightening a photo is exactly the same. The data you see when you adjust it is there. It's already in the picture. It exists. You are simply adjusting the way the computer data already present in the picture displays so you can see some details better.

    This photo is a critical critical piece of evidence. It is from an unimpeachable source - the Anchorage Daily News. It is of a known event that happened on a absolutely known date, and other photos and videos of the event exist from other sources. It was taken by a professional photographer. It was taken more than a week after Palin announced she was seven months pregnant. And it shows no signs whatsoever of pregnancy. It was taken from slightly below Palin and from the side - a perfect angle for us to see that there's nothing under that flat panel skirt.

    There's not a lot of ways you can spin that. Saying it's "photoshopped" is a lie... it's not. And if you say it's photoshopped and it's proved not to be, you're stuck.

    The only real option for the 'bots on this one (since they can't question either the date or the source) is to fall back on the old tried-and-(not)true... which is that "some women just don't look pregnant." (Five weeks before they give birth to a six pound child.)

    I for one ain't buying it and never have.

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  12. Gryphen, the "give them enough rope" approach to moderating sure works with the cretinous "I want to be first" troll your blog has attracted. You can sense it's angst. Who might it be? I love it.

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  13. Anonymous7:48 AM

    Ears can bend and be folded a bit in utero. It's important to realize that this photo was taken more than two weeks after the alleged birth. By that point any "birth folding" should have long since passed.

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  14. Anonymous7:52 AM

    What is the date of that first photo? Trig seems smaller than in the photo showing him with the Heaths at the hospital when they presented him as just being born.

    Gryphen, what do the doctors you have spoken with have to say about his changing size?

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  15. All photographs are Photoshopped in that they are digital files processed in Adobe Photoshop or in another photo editing program. However, the adjective "Photoshopped" has come to commonly mean manipulated or altered in such a way as to effectively change the content of the original image captured by the camera.

    The distinction between the two uses of the word is obvious, but given the amount of routine manipulation going on, both professionally and by amateurs, it needs to be restated.

    Just for the record, I am the photographer who first lightened the shadows on the March 14th 2008 photo for Audrey of Palin's Deceptions. I used the shadow/highlight tool in Photoshop, which does nothing but opens up shadow detail.

    I have said this before elsewhere, but given that the photographs we are looking at are almost all 72dpi jpegs (very low resolution), it would be difficult to prove that someone has or has not made significant alterations to the content of any of the particular images in question. That said, the provenance of the images--taken, for instance, from generally reliable sources, makes it unlikely that anything has been changed.

    In the March 14 photo there is some slight lens distortion due to the photographer using a wide focal length from a low angle, but it is not enough to exaggerate, one way or another, Palin's apparently flat abdomen.

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  16. Anonymous7:56 AM

    @ Effie

    Sarah Palin is mentally unstable (as discussed by McCain staffers). Her account of the birth of Trig is absurd.

    There is absolutely nothing you can do or say to change that situation.

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  17. Robert Dillon took some photos on February 26,2008 (less than three weeks earlier than the image at the top of this post) of Palin in Washington DC, while she was there during the Supreme Court's hearing of the EVOS case. I believe he took several of Palin next to Cordova Eyak artist Mike Webber's Shame Pole, which had been brought from Cordova to DC by Cordova fishers to support their public presence there during the USSC hearing.

    I published one of the photos at Progressive Alaska back then, but Dillon took several.

    He now works for Lisa Murkowski. When he got his job with Lisa, he took down his site. Possibly somebody knows Dillon and could persuade him to release all the images he took of Palin on February 26 2008 in DC. Maybe Lisa herself could encourage Robert - who is an excellent photographer - to come forward with the images Dillon has of Joe Miller's BFF.

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  18. Anonymous7:57 AM

    Hate to repeat myself, but:

    1. Where is the birth certificate?

    2. Why doesn't Palin sue Griffin and the many others who have said point-blank that she's not the birth mother of Trig?

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  19. Anonymous8:01 AM

    Why didn´t the people who were ¨vetting¨ sarah scrub this March 14, 2008 photo? Maybe they tried, but sarah overruled them? ¨No, it´s a good picture of me. I look so good. You meanies have already erased too many of my favorite pictures already. I look pregnant in this picture. Look at my smile! Darn it, I look so pretty, even pregnant. No one will notice it´s really binoculars and not a baby anyway. It stays, or I´m not helping you guys!¨

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  20. Anonymous8:01 AM

    At last, the Courney Love of politics is where she belongs: in the political bargain bin. Cast off. Picked over. And finally tossed aside.

    Did she really believe she was more than a passing fad?

    Palin, pussyfooting, and the photo — remember when we cared?
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/palin-pussyfooting-and-the-photo--remember-when-we-cared/2011/03/03/AFh7PoqF_blog.html

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  21. Anonymous8:02 AM

    At least Effie, 7:12, is now acknowledging Barack Obama is President. That's a step in the right direction. Keep on coming Effie, pretty soon you'll be one of the good guys!

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  22. Anonymous8:06 AM

    The Spouse's Luncheon photo/video is not photoshopped. And we know that there is an additional photograph because someone called Gryphen for info about it. I hope Dr. Scharlott is able to add that photograph to his list of facts.

    Sarah Palin carried 4 other babies to term: Bristol, Track, Willow, and Piper. Sarah Palin was active in her community and her church. Many people have photographs of her pregnant. Yet, there is no rush of defenders displaying "proof" that Sarah doesn't look very pregnant at 7-9 months.

    Where are the photos of slender Sarah with insiginificant baby bump?

    C'mon you friends of Sarah Palin. Step up to the challenge and show everyone what Sarah's pregnancies are like.

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  23. Anonymous8:07 AM

    Gryphen, do we have to read the churlish, offensive racist rants of "Effie"? As someone who is mixed race, I urge you to please not let racism thrive on this blog in the comments. Thank you.

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  24. Anonymous8:09 AM

    Blogger Effie said...

    "President Man-Child needs to send in the Navy Seals to scrape around on the bottom of this barrel.

    In the interest of national security as long as he doesn't offend pregnant women everywhere."

    Hey fuck you big time. His name is President Obama. Fuck you and get off of this blog. Melly

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  25. mommom8:17 AM

    OT---
    """A famous New York strip club company has applied to become the only one to do business in an Atlantic City casino.

    If the proposed Scores-Atlantic City location in the Trump Taj Mahal Casino""""

    Wonder how the GOP "base" will react.

    http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/atlantic-city_pleasantville_brigantine/article_5f99aab2-b563-11df-82d5-001cc4c03286.html

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  26. Anonymous8:22 AM

    Stop this now! President Obama needs to send SEAL Team Six in here to make you take this photograph down. Do you know how hard it is getting for me, a palinbot, to ignore this picture?

    Sincerely, the only way I can continue to love Sarah is to ignore reality. That´s why I do it, so I can keep loving Sarah.

    WhatÅ› wrong with that? What is so terribly wrong with wanting to continue to love someone? I am not a robot. If I want to open my heart and replace Jesus Christ with Sarah Palin, it is my business and no one else´s concern. Who needs the Bible when I have Team Sarah and C4P? I can worship whomever I wish. The last time I checked, America was still a free country.

    Deal with it.

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  27. ManxMamma8:23 AM

    Effie 7:12 - You're an ass.

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  28. Anonymous8:25 AM

    Effie,
    Why don't you racists just say 'boy' when you refer to the President? Using 'man-child' isn't exactly concealing your true meaning.

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  29. Anonymous8:28 AM

    I know! I know! In the ADN photo,she was pregnant with Trig and she usually had an obvious pregnancy bump but in that photo she is slender because she . . . accidently left him home that day. Um, no, that doesn't work. Sorry.

    Never mind.

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  30. Anonymous8:30 AM

    Julia wants facts then get them from palin - birth certification, pictures of her being preg without a jacket and scarf on - if Julia is to believe that palin is telling the truth then find out the facts and print them. Pretty simple for a reporter - go ahead be the big saver of palin's pregnancy - you can't Julia because the facts of the fifth pregnancy do not exist. Palin lied to you and the rest of the world, deal with it and start reporting the truth.

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  31. Heck, the guy in the middle looks more pregnant than WGE.

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  32. Anonymous8:40 AM

    Here's another of Webber's images:
    http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/thumbnailfull/2008-9-6-11-40-43-4b81da1d68e041aba5a70b1da25db69d-4b81da1d68e041aba5a70b1da25db69d-2.jpg

    That straight hemline gets me. Either she's wearing a maternity skirt--possible, or there's no belly there to distort the hemline. Of course, we know she isn't wearing a maternity skirt in the later photo discussed by Novak today.

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  33. Gryph, I have made what I think is an interesting find regarding the ears.

    1) today show from the campaign, at minute 18 you will see an older version of ruffles

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j76vvbTjQTo&feature=related


    2) SPA show: second 24 start looking at Trig's ear, I believe this kid is also Ruffles
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cwFWzoKwUs&feature=related

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  34. Anonymous8:50 AM

    The only thing I would point out is that ears can crinkle like that. I think it was Regina who discussed this as well. There's too much of an obvious progression of growth for there to be 2 different babies. And too many people saw the infant regularly for that to have happened.

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  35. Anonymous8:56 AM

    Effie @7:12 Please tell us your accomplishments in life that surpass those of "President Man-Child". You must be one of the trolls that have over taken the HP.

    I do not expect an answer but why do you enjoy being such a miserable person?

    Bill

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  36. Anonymous8:57 AM

    Did someone just accuse Effie of having an empty life, when there are people whose lives revolve around Sarah and just Sarah? Who needs a life? Most of the country have enough to do in their own lives. Take a page out of Jon Corbetts book. He recently said all the malicious blogs are quite sad. It is never right to slander someone with lies and innuendo. People need to act maturely and compassionately. And maybe not assume things they know nothing about.

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  37. Anonymous9:02 AM

    You must already have Julia O'Malley's response, as it, also, too, was sent to me by mistake. (It didn't take long- Hi Julia!- R-U-Lurkin?) Since we can't post images, the text is below for all to read.

    Make. It. Stop.

    I SAID MAKE!!!IT!!!STOP!!!

    WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT STOP???

    This is getting ridiculous.

    Mr. Lou Sarah has called several times and tells the publisher that all the ads can be PULLED!!! THAT COSTS OUR PAPER MONEY!!! He reminds us it has happened before!

    Any communications received from Lou Sarah or other well connected powerful people are of course completely confidential ( and let me assure you that there's no conspiracy to spiral the silence- though you won't believe that!) but in general I can be rather specific about what is meant by all of this. Here are a few examples anyone can understand.

    Miss Suzies, Moon's House,first we print stories abut them and the next thing you know...NO MORE ADS! More recently Shooter's Billiard Parlor; FIRST WE PRINT SOME STORIES, AND THEN NO MORE ADS AGAIN! Is the connection becoming clear? Some even might say that publishing negative coverage about advertisers and businesses in the area is BAD BUSINESS for a newspaper!

    SO. NOW. YOU. KNOW. SOME. PREVIOUS. CASES. WHERE. OTHERS. WANTED. IT. TO. STOP.

    Once bad press gets started, one can never tell what the final outcome might be. The loss of advertising money can be long lasting, and affect surprising things not seemingly related to the stories published. A well known marketing case study performed by some newspaper publisher a few years ago has the proof. It is based on some events in Alaska, also, too!

    After noticing that ad revenue for the rolodex category of office supplies had been zero (not steadily shrinking, not falling off a cliff, but ZERO!) our paper decided to hire someone to INVESTIGATE the cause of this money hole sucking our profits. What was found proved what was already known before the investigation started. That's how it usually works with strongly held beliefs and talking points searching for support.

    It was determined that statewide the rolodex market had been destroyed. They weren't even stocked in any stores. There was no rolodex advertising either. Another classic chicken and egg thingee. The most important facts found for this were a large of stories in the media concerning an entertainment venue named the Chateau and a rolodex. These stories went on for years. The sad chain of events was: bad stories about a rolodex, no more rolodex ads, people stop buying rolodexes, and now it is to the point that anyone under 25 years of age in the entire state of Alaska doesn't even know what a rolodex is!

    For a significant number of older Alaskans the phrase "Your name is in the ROLODEX" is enough to cause a blood pressure spike. That was found to be because of the bad press coverage, also, too.
    Even more surprising is that now rolodexes have such a bad reputation that their existence is sometimes DENIED in a preemptory fashion.

    Of course, now that all those stories have been printed, the bad coverage for rolodexes can't be undone. Too late for rolodexes, but the lessons have been learned by so called 'journalists' all over the country: let the advertisers and important people write their own stories! They have people on staff that used to work for newspapers and tv stations, so they can get the 'news' out just like everyone wants. If that's too hard, at least be sure to let them have some input.

    Mr. Sarah has also offered to consult with other papers, possibly a cruise seminar can be organzed this summer. Mr. Sarah costs about $100,000 plus expenses, but if we get enough 'journalists' and 'editors' he'll throw in some remaindered books (at 5% off the cover price!) to use as subscriber premiums.

    SO. CAN. YOU. MAKE. IT. STOP. YET. NOW. THAT. YOU. KNOW. WHATS. REALLY. GOING. ON?


    The preceeding is satire.

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  38. Gracious, the way the trolls jump on the ruffled ear posts, one would think you are onto something, Gryphen.

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  39. Anonymous9:13 AM

    To the person who posted those links of trig, that is ruffles, as well as the one and only trig. There are many many people who have watched trig grow from the beginning. To switch between babies would have been impossible. In the pics of trig from mid march, he has the same weird ear shape.

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  40. Anonymous9:16 AM

    All due respect to Regina, baby cartilage simply does not change that rapidly all by itself -- there are only 4 to 5 months between the Ruffles picture and the Sept-Oct campaign pictures. And that does still not explain the hole. As for "so many people" viewing the baby in those intervening months. . .well, we don't have much photographic or written evidence one way or the other. No follow up human interest stories in ADN, etc. As to candid photos, well, there was the baby shower and the Ruffles photo taken in the kitchen. All others were posed - grandma and grandpa and Trip in the hallway at MatSu and the official baby photos and the photos three days after birth in the office in Anchorage. . .nothing really new showed up in the People Magazine article in early September. Which is really kinda wierd when you think about it. The Alaskan Governor has a special needs child born, yet there are not any human interest stories following Trig's life and development, and how the Governor balances her duties as a special needs mother?? Not until the nomination, then all hell breaks loose. I find this strange, this lack of record on Trig from May to September, very strange. It is as though he went underground.

    MicMac

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  41. Anonymous9:19 AM

    Sarah looks 7 months pregnant to me in that picture. It's hard to see her stomach because she was wearing a long scarf. Get over it now people. You should all know by now that this story is never going to go anywhere. Case closed! Epic FAIL on the part of the pajama wearing bloggers!

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  42. Anonymous9:21 AM

    Also, apart from the shower/kitchen photos, every other photo of Trig during those "lost months" are either deliberately "hazy" (the official professional baby pictures) or he is in a hat covering his ears or entirely hidden in a sling.

    MicMac

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  43. Anonymous9:21 AM

    7:47, you said it much more clearly than I tried to at 7:19, pre-coffee!

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  44. Anonymous9:30 AM

    Listen, some visitors here can attempt to frame posts and comments on this blog and others as solely mean-spirited, etc.

    Go right ahead and continue with that tactic, but I think the vast majority of Americans now have some understanding of the complete cynicism and recklessness by the McCain '08 presidential campaign in putting our nation's welfare at risk, simply for political power. They put her on the ticket without truly understanding anything about her, other than she had a "spunky" personality and was an attractive female. They knew she was sympathetic to their corporate interests, and that's all they needed to know. This careless act was INEXCUSABLE and genuinely unpatriotic.

    We are motivated by one thing, and one thing only. To make sure Sarah Palin never gets that far politically again. If it means exposing her massive fraud regarding the fake pregnancy, if it means pointing out that the woman cares more about plastic surgery than about reading books and educating herself beyond Big Oil and Fundamentalist talking points, if it means showing the chronic incoherence in her public statements, her general arrogance, and her total disrespect for anyone with whom she happens to disagree, so be it.

    But stop trying to act like we are just mean and immature. Anyone who would blindly follow someone like this is immature, and certainly doesn't care in any way for their fellow citizens.

    This woman is a poser. She is fake. She is just a spoiled person who still cannot accept that she is not going to get what she wanted.

    She is manipulative and devious, and clearly lacking in true compassion.

    As an example, how could her beautiful daughter have been driven to change her appearance like that? If she were a loving and attentive mother, Bristol would not have done that. I have a 22-year-old daughter myself, so I know what I am talking about.

    Just one sign, in a string of many, many signs, about the REAL Sarah Palin.

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  45. Anonymous9:30 AM

    Effie .. President OBAMA needs to send Seal team into Palin complex in Wasilla.. to arrest the traitors living there.

    and seize all medical and birth records.

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  46. Anonymous9:44 AM

    OK, Karen, this is an incredible find re Trig's ear, or else my eyes do deceive me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cwFWzoKwUs&feature=related

    Do you remember the article about Palin, I think sometime in 2010, that said she delayed a trip East for a day or so because Trig was having minor surgery?

    If this is Trig, and he had recent surgery on his right ear, then he is not the child we've known as Trig for the last 2+++ years. Because the Trig of the last couple of years did not need ear surgery.

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  47. Anonymous9:46 AM

    I agree: "It is never right to slander someone with lies and innuendo. "

    But how about "slandering" them with truth and facts?

    Just explain how SP can have that flat profile right before giving birth? Hmmmm?

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  48. Anonymous9:46 AM

    8:50--There's too much of an obvious progression of growth for there to be 2 different babies.

    Unless of course they're twins.

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  49. Anonymous9:59 AM

    "Schoolmarm" troll alert @8:57AM.

    "It is never right to slander someone with lies and innuendo."
    ---------------------------------
    They sure scramble to protect their queen when this subject is touched.

    Hey anon @8:57, "it is never right to slander someone with lies and innuendo." Pass that on the your queen.

    Delicious irony.

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  50. Anonymous9:59 AM

    @Anon 8:57

    I have never, ever assumed to know the truth of Babygate. As a mother of three, this curious American does have a host of questions she'd like answered about all the statements Sarah herself made.

    You see, it's not Palin's private business when she makes it public, and it was indeed HER who made it public. If she had any brain cells working, she would have said NOTHING. Instead, she spun a ludicrous yarn that any person who's given birth knows is a lie or criminal endangerment.

    So don't accuse me of slander or lying. Sarah put herself here, and it's the height of arrogance to think she's above being questioned.

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  51. Anonymous10:00 AM

    @8:57;
    Yeah, what you said. How dare they hold our Sarah to her own ethics and standards! How dare they smear our Sarah with her own photograph! How would they feel if someone shoved a photograph of them like this one in their face? They probably wouldn´t like it. That picture is nothing but a lie, innuendo and needs to be removed from the Internet.

    Every time itÅ› posted I refuse to look at it. Ha! Ha!

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  52. Is Effie the old Ram, the BFF of Tammy Bruce?

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  53. Anonymous10:11 AM

    Sean looks the most pregnant in the photo.

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  54. melissa10:12 AM

    Anyone seen the article Gawker did on Bristol's changing face?

    http://uk.gawker.com/5798691/bristol-palins-face-looks-different-doesnt-it/gallery/?skyline=true&s=i

    At least one palinbot has already shown their idiot colors. Check out the comment made at 11:25am by naynay5585. Either s/he got Gawker confused with Jezebel or s/he has just been cutting and pasting the same comment over and over again on various sites.

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  55. Anonymous10:15 AM

    anon at 9:19

    Get over it now people. You should all know by now that this story is never going to go anywhere. Case closed! Epic FAIL on the part of the pajama wearing bloggers!


    What will you say when Levi drops the bomb on Sarah and says Trig is his and Bristol's baby?

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  56. Anonymous10:18 AM

    So is Effie short for Fuckie?! Superdouche!

    Scarah & Co has already come here and stated "That if we knew the real truth, we would feel sorry for her"...She wasn't pregnant. Some other familial tragedy. And that 'may' have worked to her benefit if she had just said she adopted a DS child. But no! Queen twitterquitter used Trig as a political prop and conned the whole country! She is a sociopath on the lose!

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  57. Gasman10:25 AM

    THIS issue will be the one that delivers the coupe de grâce to Palin. I also believes that she knows that this will finish her off. She cannot contain this any longer and she cannot rebut it. Notice how silent she has been in response to the renewed scrutiny of her faked pregnancy. What can she say?

    I'd bet that Palin is shitting bricks over this. She's not sleeping, she's not eating, she's not drinking. She's in a semi-catatonic state moaning that it's all about to come to an end. The defense put up by her apologists has been so laughably ridiculous that each new explanation simply prompts more questions.

    This issue is NOT going away.

    But Palin is.

    Pack your bags bitch.

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  58. Anonymous10:47 AM

    @9:19;
    Sarah looks 7 months pregnant? You might as well say she looks seventeen months pregnant.

    Okay, Sarah Palin does not look pregnant in that picture.

    You can take it down now.

    (Please)

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  59. Anonymous10:57 AM

    "Nice try"

    Gryphen, I believe that Palin faked her pregnancy. Switching babies is just a bridge too far for me to go. It may or maynot be true, but when I play the theory in my head, I feel very comfortable saying that based on all the information I have seen, I believe she faked the Trig pregnancy, but that is as far as I can go. Further than that and I just remind myself too much of a birther.

    You seem to assume that someone who does not agree with you on every piece of the theory is somehow trying to, what, destroy the theory? That is just wrong and you risk alienating those of us whose own reasoning sets a limit on what parts of this we can buy into.

    Don't forget we are stronger together and we should not disagree amongst ourselves about the details.

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  60. Personally, I prefer the SQUARE PILLOW pictures - absolutely NO WAY to explain that cushion!

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  61. Anonymous11:07 AM

    Is it just me? Every time I see that photo, I see the gold ring above the other women's head. It looks like a halo, and that SP is turned, admiring the other woman who is holy! :-)

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  62. Anonymous11:09 AM

    If people don't want to consider a faked pregnancy, it's ok with me.

    They just have to explain why they'd consider for political office a person like Sarah Palin.

    Sarah Palin boasts of boarding a transcontinental flight after an amniotic fluid leak without a prior medical check during a high-risk pregnancy at 35 weeks and avoiding medical facilities equipped for neo-natal intensive care.

    Is that the kind of decision maker that is capable of the presidency of the United States or is that the kind of person that is mentally unstable?

    Sarah Palin is UNFIT for public office.

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  63. Anonymous11:11 AM

    I just noticed something. The picture of the ruffles ear baby shows a baby with slightly blue hands...sign of cardiac defect. Where is ruffles now??

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  64. Anonymous11:11 AM

    Her arms are bent at the elbow, and her hands (clasping her Blackberry, of course) are near her waist. The scarf falls at approximately her navel. There is no noticeable abdominal swelling consistent with advanced pregnancy. She is not pregnant.

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  65. Anonymous11:22 AM

    Ms. Laura Novak is very beautiful and intelligent. Professor Scharlott is very intelligent and handsome.

    There, I said it. Now you can take the photograph down

    Iḿ waiting.

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  66. Anonymous11:23 AM

    Gryph is onto something based on the immediate troll response. There is an extra hole in ruffles ear. I love Regina but the extra hole is not the same as simple ear ruffling. It is a classic FAS feature which is why Sarah would need to switch babies.

    Carrie

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  67. Anonymous11:28 AM

    That's definitely not Ruffles, 8:46. That's yet another Trig to add to the collection. His ears are nothing like Ruffles' ears, or like conventionTrig's ears. The ears of all three babies vary quite noticeably in size, shape, and position on head.

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  68. Anonymous11:28 AM

    Gryph-

    You don't have to tell us (unless you want to), do you have any theories on what may have happened to Ruffles?

    Carrie

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  69. Laura and Prof. Scharlott did a great job! The beauty of the March 14 photo is that it's right there on the ADN website. ANYONE can lighten it and see that the apparently flat belly isn't due to photo manipulation.
    http://www.adn.com/2008/03/14/v-gallery/345168/parnell-to-battle-young-in-republican.html

    http://litbrit.blogspot.com/ did a similar post awhile back showing how to lighten the photo. Sorry, I don't have the direct link to the post.

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  70. Anonymous11:36 AM

    Exactly anon @11:09. ANd let's not forget that if $carah gets anywhere near a run for office.

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  71. Karen - I don't see a deformed ear in the video you linked. The video is still a GREAT find! It highlights Trig's importance to Palin's appeal and shows us how she set herself up as an anti-abortion hero.

    “He’s only six months old and often sleeps through his appearances but Trig Palin is a fixture on the campaign trail and drawing crowds of his own.”

    Sarah's pregnancy is NOT a private family matter. Palin turned him into an icon and herself into a hero.

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  72. slowhand11:45 AM

    If that ADN photo had been photoshopped, the woman in the blue shirt would have had her halo centered . . .

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  73. Anonymous11:46 AM

    it's so sad :( that they were so ashamed of that little guy that they photo shopped her pregnancy and his ear pictures. that is sick stuff.

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  74. Anonymous11:50 AM

    Sarah is a fucking fraud....always was and always will be.

    I SO hope she puts her ineptness out there to run - she won't know what has hit her. She thinks it's bad now....I'm sure Dems and Repubs have so much on her....

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  75. Anon 8:50 - I'm not at all sure that Regina/Palingates tried to make a case that Ruffles had crumpled ears that were corrected. In fact, I came away from the post with the opposite reaction.

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  76. Anonymous12:05 PM

    I think bringing up the ear-two-baby theory discredits the more obvious conspiracy of a faked pregnancy.

    Sarah appears to be insane and there seems to be no limit to her scheming ways, and she enjoys employing TRICKERY,but I think the main story for now is her phony birth story. Any "complications" (ear folds and extra babies) can unravel later if the main lie (that Sarah birthed Trig) can finally be proven.

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  77. Anonymous12:06 PM

    To 10:57 - Palin would have HAD to present a smaller baby, just that once, to the crowd at the shower, as the real Trig would have been way too large to be believable as a premature newborn. Look at that picture of him in the hallway on the presumed day of birth, held by his grandparents. He is a moose. Also fine to trot him out to the office three days later, all wrapped up in a blanket, for distance shots by a photographer. But to be passed around at a baby shower? His size would have been an instant giveaway.

    Hence, Ruffles Rent A Baby. Possibly a child with some ear deformity that had been given up and in transition into foster care. Not at all unusual for such a child to have a temporary placement with a family for a matter of days or weeks, prior to permanent placement into foster care or adoption.

    That's what happened to me when I was a baby. And with Palin's hospital and church connections, not at all hard to pull off. I think it was Ruffles who was ready to be born and/or borrowed out quickly, when Paling got that call to come back from Texas and make the "pick up" in the dead of night when few witnesses were around.

    MicMac

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  78. Anonymous12:07 PM

    And for all we know, that baby could have been ready in Anchorage, then taken by car up to Wasilla that night.

    MicMac

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  79. Betsy S12:27 PM

    Ruffles was an FAS baby. His/her ears were markedly
    deformed. The Trig that appeared at the RNC was obviously a DS baby, but quite cute for his age. His size was much larger than a baby born in April, some four months earlier than his first major public appearance not in a hat or covered up in a sling. Gryphen, I think I've said this about five times now. Also that the GOP is stringing along the possibility of SP running in 2012 until her gaffes (and food-stained clothes, dirty hair and too-big shoes) are so unacceptable to the public that Jeb Bush will seem like a Godsend.

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  80. Anonymous12:33 PM

    Julie is a wack-a-doodle! In the first photo, the only person even remotely possibly pregnant is Sean Parnell and we all know this not to be the case. Sarah was not then pregnant and did not give birth to Trig. Come on now Sarah - when are you going to tell the truth! We're waiting!!

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  81. Anonymous12:33 PM

    That kind of ear deformity is NOT caused by a bay being "bunched up" in utero! Sorry! Ask a pediatric ototologist and you will see...

    From a pediatric audiologist...

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  82. Anonymous12:36 PM

    Julia O'Malley's articles are terrible. They aren't well researched , there is a lot of opinion and a "shame on you" mentality that should be not present in a piece of serious journalism.
    Then again, it is Alaska. No offense, but your education system there is not exactly top notch. Is she a trained journalist? I find that very hard to believe. Not that education is always important, but doing careful fact checking in an objective manner IS IMPORTANT. In her last article she came across as a 14 year old stomping her foot in a temper tantrum...

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  83. @Karen. Good catch. On the first one btw you mean second 18, not minute 18, and yes that is Ruffles with the extra hole into the ear canal that was later repaired, as I recall seeing on the Palin Peyton Place site. Wonder when this video was made?

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  84. Anonymous12:39 PM

    Effie, that is probably just about the DUMBEST comment I have ever seen on any blog anywhere. Are you retarded??
    Because honestly, you are a complete moron, but if you are retarded, I'll forgive you.

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  85. Anonymous12:41 PM

    I agree with some of the posters Jesse. Letting EVERY SINGLE blog post in is not necessarily a good tactic. I was very offended by the people describing Bristol yesterday with the "ride them hard and put up wet" comment. It isn't funny and honestly Bristol nor any young woman, even a stripper, does not deserve that.
    Then you let racist comments like this clueless Effie post her. Effie is a truly stupid piece of trash. Why post things like that? To prove Palinbots are white trash? We already know that....

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  86. Anonymous12:47 PM

    Anon 8:30, that is a great idea.

    Why don't we challenge Julia as well as Justin, Dave Weasel, Jason Sarcastic Linkins and whomever else is SO ABOVE even looking at factual evidence to do an actual interview with Sarah and ask her about the wild ride.

    Surely any of them can read Sarah's own words describing the wild ride and know something is amiss. Do any of them have children ? Would they risk the lives of their premature high risk infant like that?

    Since they have been so supportive of Sarah, I bet she would be glad to sit down with them and do an interview to settle this once and for all. Sarah could provide Trig's birth certificate. Dr. CBJ could be interviewed and a DNA analysis could be done.

    Then everyone can shut up about this story and we can all move on

    What do you all think ??

    Maybe Laura Novak could do an interview with Sarah Palin and Professor Scharlott. This is getting kind of old already and the most suspicious thing is that Sarah doesn't just provide truth so we can all move on.

    Surely Justin, Julia, Dave and Jason wouldn't be against doing a factual interview with Sarah? They haven't done one yet.. Maybe vagina girl in England would like to join them... They love reporting on each other, but none of them have gone to the source ? I wonder why that is?

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  87. Anonymous12:49 PM

    Anon 8:50 - THE EAR IS NOT WRINKLED - it is DEFORMED. Please believe what ear doctors (otologists) and other specialists say over lay people...
    It is a genetic malformation - NOT wrinkling!!

    Are you the Palin fairy troll again?

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  88. Anonymous12:56 PM

    Billie Joe Armstrong Talks IDIOT, Palin, and More!

    s for his thoughts on Sarah Palin, he commented, "I listen to the shit that comes out of her mouth, and I'm just in awe. These are Sunday-school teachers becoming politicians. Mike Huckabee? He's the guy that diddled you while holding the Bible. He's so soft-spoken, so Mr. Rogers. Palin is thesame-it's this sneaky way to make Americans feel comfortable, but you know they're rotten to the core."

    http://broadwayworld.com/article/Billie_Joe_Armstrong_Talks_IDIOT_Palin_and_More_20110418

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  89. Anonymous1:31 PM

    Anon 7:11, No, you couldn't have read
    "...the ear being bunched up in utero and that this kind of deformity could straight out in time." Not in any credible medical journal, you couldn't. Ear specialists have looked at the photos & commented, "NO WAy."

    SHARON TN

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  90. Anonymous1:48 PM

    Those of us who live in Alaska know how small Wasilla is...

    Isn't it interesting that in the 4 years since this supposed fraud occurred, not one person has come forward to say, "I was a med tech, I worked in the delivery room and I saw Bristol deliver Trig...."

    But HIPAA...

    But nothing. If there were a shred of truth to this, some anonymous source would have leaked it by now. Bristol's partying, Track's school bus incident, Willow's weed buy, all this stuff has come out ..... but nobody who lives within a thousand miles of the hospital has ever said a word, even off the record.

    "But the rumors are all over...."

    They come from here and places like this. It self-sustains, just like the stupid divorce story and IRS investigations that never happened.

    Meanwhile, the whole gang here pours over the same old internet photos and makes the same leaps of logic, a giant game of reach-around and daisy chaining.

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  91. Anonymous1:51 PM

    Gryphen, I have posted some pics of Trig's ears over at Palingates. Thanks Karen for the videos you posted earlier.

    Please note the positioning of the ears relative to the distance from the mouth. They were using different babies.

    http://palingates.blogspot.com/2011/05/sarah-palin-feels-blessed.html#disqus_thread

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  92. "I have a doctorate in mass communications from a top school in that field, the University of Wisconsin-Madison, which means I’m a trained researcher. My research has been published in numerous peer-reviewed academic journals. I teach a senior-level college class on research methods. I’m an empiricist. I believe truth can be discovered and verified. And this picture that we have just examined objectively exists, and its truth value can be assessed. Here’s my bottom line from my examination of the photo: I am at least 95 percent confident that Sarah Palin is not seven months pregnant in that photo." Thank you Dr. Scharlott for pointing out the necessity of education and research, thank you also for your courage. Research is the backbone of most professions. Without it practices can't be based on the truth and people can't keep up with current events. In Alaska there are many including nurses, doctors, politicians, reporters and many others who do not know this. It seems rejecting education, science, information, facts, and obvious logic is a part of the culture. That is how the politicians, incompetent professionals and less than mediocre journalists thrive here. Julia O'Malley is not an investigative journalist, she does fluffy pieces with obvious agenda and slant. She works for the ADN what else would we expect. I loved her pieces about people in the community, but the one on the incarcerated addict left out a lot of important facts about what really goes on with the DOC. I believe O'Malley is controlled by those in the government here or is so naive she just buys whatever they tell her. Perhaps she is in denial about "babygate", often when people encounter a scenario that is too monsterous to comprehend this happens. Anyone who is from an alcoholic family knows about this. When you bring up some awful thing from your childhood a parent will often say, "That never happened." For someone like me who highly values information and truth the lack of the ability to look at the photos which have been checked and double checked for authenticity and clue into the fact that Palin was not pregnant is baffling. It is some kind of group denial.

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  93. Anonymous2:00 PM

    OMG - just watched the ABC clip. They REALLY do not want to show her face. They totally filled it with old footage. And then there's old white guy Neil Cole at her side, looking around bored....

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  94. Anonymous2:03 PM

    Anon 8:50am - who were the people who "saw the infant regularly," pray
    tell? Were you one of them?

    Sharon TN

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  95. Anonymous2:09 PM

    MicMac:

    Please, please, please stop perpetuating the absolute MYTH that Sarah "got the call to come back to Alaska" that night.

    They took their ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHTS. There was never any time when they planned to do anything other than leave "hurriedly" on an "earlier flight". They used their original flights home, which were booked as ROUND TRIP tickets through the governor's office. You can easily verify this with her travel records and vouchers. Even if that wasn't the case...at the time Sarah said Todd was "checking on earlier flights"...there were NO MORE flights to ANYWHERE in Alaska that you could still book for that day.

    The "wild ride" was obviously planned well in advance.

    Two things that I have always been SURE would cause the media to "break" this story- the fact that they took the originally booked flights (thus proving they were psychic about her "labor" or there WAS never any labor) and the fact Todd stopped and bought two 20oz Diet Dr Pepper sodas and two snickers bars on the way to Mat Su. Your wife is in labor with a preemie who is known to be extremely fragile medically and you stop for CANDY AND COKES???? I don't think so.

    These two issues scream "faked birth" to me (as does the fact that Sarah was calmly reading a novel while "in labor") yet I never see any of the blogs touch either of these items. Palingates/Patrick mentioned it at some point but it has never been made into the big story I believe it IS.

    If Sarah took her ORIGINAL flight home (and she did) then her tale of waking with a "strange sensation low in her belly" has about as much truthful value as...well, anything else she makes up and then parades out her piehole.

    The stopping for snacks could be explained away as a STUPID but plausible- Todd could say oh, well, we needed to make sure she was fueled up for the arduous process of pushing out our apparently invisible baby!

    But the flights? NO explaining that away...NONE.

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  96. Anonymous2:10 PM

    I canceled my long time subscription to Salon because of Justin Elliott's article, and you can be sure I let them know the reason why.

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  97. Anonymous2:11 PM

    No twenty year old gets their face re-worked unless they have been a car accident or been disfigured. -

    Bristol has low self-esteem issues? There are other ways to change and reinvent oneself.. As someone suggested, how about college?

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  98. Anonymous2:44 PM

    Sharon in Tennessee this is Laurie in Tennessee.

    What right do you have to say that I did not read what I did? The response I have received from my honest statement of MY belief that there is not enough evidence to convince ME that there is/was two babies used is disappointing.

    You all being fanatics about this is what discredits us all. I don't have to believe everything you believe to still be part of the group of people who want this story to stay a constant pressure on Palin and the media until the truth is revealed.

    I thought only the right wing insisted on groupthink. Although I might agree with others on many things, I will never give up my right to form my own conclusions.

    The intolerance I have found here toward my own particular variation of the Palin sham is a very unpleasant surprise.

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  99. Anonymous3:28 PM

    Laurie and Sharon in TN - Please continue to post comments. We don't all have to agree 100% all the time. Don't let the Palins divide us. Their polarizing corruption spreads like a virus. It's catching. Thank you.

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  100. Anonymous3:30 PM

    @2:10 - I canceled my subscription to SALON 10 years ago, and stopped reading them when Joan hired Camille Paglia--and Paglia fawned over Palin.

    IMHO, Salon hasn't been good since the late 90's. There are, of course, exceptions on their staff--writers who can think and gather evidence/facts. But Justin Elliott ain't one of them.

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  101. Anonymous3:35 PM

    @1:48, Bristol-as-Trig's-birthmother is only ONE theory.

    Trig's birth mother is likely someone else altogether who had her baby a few months before. The Trig introduced at the hospital by Sally and Chuck was no preemie. No medical staff could connect an unnamed mother with a random baby born on an unknown date.

    But good try.

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  102. Where did we learn that Todd stopped for sodas and candy on the way to MatSu? must have missed that.

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  103. Hi Guys, For what it's worth, I don't know what to think of the idea that there were two Trigs, one with ruffled ears and one without. That is not a slight toward Gryphen's research at all, just my saying (to myself) that I don't know the limits of medical intervention in a case like this (among others things). So, while I think it might be true, I have no idea how *likely* it is to be true. So let's all keep open minds and be totally accepting of all points of view.

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  104. I have never believed that this kid and this kid are the same kid, but they're both clearly identified as Trig Palin.

    The first picture was taken in July 2010, and the second in October 2010 -- surely the child pictured couldn't have changed his appearance so remarkably in so short a time -- hair color, natural pattern of hair growth and degree of fineness/coarseness of his hair, shape of eyebrows, complexion, shape of the INSIDE of the ear...

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  105. Anonymous10:51 PM

    There is no way SP had Trig. The beautiful Alyssa Milano isn't even six months pregnant and she is bigger than SP was days before she gave birth. I am a mother of three and I can't tell you that those pictures prove she wasn't pregnant.

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  106. Anonymous4:36 AM

    @1:48 - right you are, no one has come forward and said this was a fraud yet no one has come forward and said it was true - the liars are in the middle - palin and todd and dr cbj - and their evidence ??? Not convincing at all. As long as palin continues to go public with her lies then we will continue to go after the truth. If palin sat down and shut up, keep quiet, went back to private life then that would be different but as long as she continues to make speeches and appearences, then she is fair game.

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  107. Anonymous6:19 AM

    I never understood how that tiny baby being bottle fed at the shower at 3 days old became that giant kid Bristol is holding at the convention in early September. He has DS, not gigantism.

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  108. Anonymous11:56 AM

    Looking at the top picture of the 3 people standing there, I do not have a problem with Sarah Palin saying that she is 7 months pregnant as long as the other two people standing with her admits they are 7 months pregnant too.

    The other two people look about the same size as Palin.

    Word to Sarah, just don't stand next to a 7 month or even a 3 month pregnant lady. It may make you look like a liar.

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