Friday, September 02, 2011

Afterbirth: Examining the other end of Sarah Palin's inexplicable pregnancy.

So we all know that Sarah Palin simply did NOT look pregnant even weeks before supposedly giving birth on April 18, 2008, as indicated by this picture taken on March 26, 2008.


And we also know that she somehow managed to balloon up to a much more acceptable size for a woman claiming to be almost eight months pregnant only two weeks later, as indicated by this picture from April 13, 2008.


And of course we have NO earthly idea how such a dramatic weight gain can be explained.

Okay well maybe we do.
However what I have never really explored is the dramatic weight LOSS that Sarah Palin seems to have experienced AFTER the "birth" of Trig. Yes, believe it or not, Sarah Palin is SUCH an amazing woman that not only did her pregnancy not show until right around the time that Trig was ready for solid foods, but she also managed to get right back down to her canned food throwing weight even faster!

At least that is what I had been told.  Finding pictures to prove it has been a little more challenging.

I did have this one from May 3rd, of Sarah and our good friend Mercede. But people kept saying that even though her legs look skinny, and she is bending over in a way that women who just gave birth fifteen days earlier simply should NOT be able to bend over, that you could not really tell anything definitive because the loose fitting sweatshirt kept you from seeing her postpartum. Oookay.

So I am assuming that if I had a picture from earlier that same day in which you COULD see her stomach that it might prove to the naysayers that she lost her "pregnancy" weight much too fast to be explained by 21st century science, right?

Will this do? This is from earlier the same day at the VFW Post in Mountain View.

Does that look two weeks postpartum to you?

What?  Too hard to see?  Here let me help.


Is that better?

You know she looks pretty darn slim to me, how about all of you?

But that is just one picture, hardly concrete evidence right?

So here is Palin only twelve days later, on May 15, 2008.

Right about here is where all of the Palin-bots come rushing over to say things like "Aw c'mon Gryphen!  Aren't you reaching a little? Why I had a girlfriend/wife/ co-worker/pet basset hound who lost all of THEIR baby weight in just a matter of days!  Perhaps Sarah Palin is just somebody who, due to her tight abs and dedication to running that nobody ever sees her do, is able to snap right back into shape. I am really a fan but THIS time I think you are barking up the wrong tree. Now if you will excuse me I have to call SarahPAC and get my check."

Well I am not an expert on pregnancy, but I do know that people don't usually "snap back into shape" faster with their fifth pregnancy than they did with their fourth pregnancy. (So you know what's coming right?)
The above is a picture of Sarah Palin from April 15, 2001, almost exactly one month after giving birth to future Palin family bodyguard, Piper Palin. Gee I guess her abdomen took a little bit longer to "snap back" in those days.

So let me see if I have this straight.

Sarah Palin suddenly announces to the world that she is pregnant on March 5, 2008 to the surprise of every single one of her co-workers, the journalists who constantly follow her around, her security staff, her entire family, and (if my sources are accurate) Todd Palin himself.

Then she starts wearing heavy jackets and long scarves making it hard to tell, if I may borrow a quote from Alaska Airlines spokeswoman Caroline Boren, "the stage of her pregnancy by observation."

However she seems to remain relatively thin until April 13th, when she suddenly balloons up just five days before "giving birth," which occurs only after she has been leaking amniotic fluid for almost eighteen hours and flown on a commercial airline from Texas all the way to Alaska.

Afterwards she simply leaves the hospital and resumes wearing her pre-pregnancy wardrobe as if nothing ever happened.

As if NOTHING ever happened.

So essentially Sarah Palin's ENTIRE pregnancy is encapsulated in this one GIF.

If GIF does not work, try clicking on it.

Have you EVER seen a pregnancy that even remotely compares to the Sarah Palin pregnancy?

And if you haven't (And believe me I KNOW you haven't) then what is the ONLY possible explanation?

194 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:43 AM

    Actually, I lost all of my post pregnancy weight in about two weeks. I was also in my early twenties, not in my forties.

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  2. Anonymous4:44 AM

    Oh good, let's parse yet more ambiguous photos.

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  3. Anonymous4:59 AM

    Hey - where is her big lumpy back fat? You know, from the extra-wide linebacker shoulder Texas conference photos? I would love to know how she burned that off in 12 days!
    On a serious note, I think the biggest mistake she made was doing the Gutsy interview for "insurance" purposes. The look at my big belly photos (it should be mentioned where/when those 2 photos showed up on the internet - anonymously in August of 2008) are completely out of place with the other pictures from the same time period. Fail.

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  4. Anonymous5:02 AM

    There are photos of her bringing Trig to work with her & Todd right after her birth (2 or 3 days later as I recall). There is NO freaking way she could fit in her clothes 2-3 days later. This has always been the nail in the coffin photo for me and I have always been talking about it and no one ever addresses it. So glad that you have done it;)

    Could she look much better 2 weeks later? I suppose she could so I wouldn't call her out so much for that. Although it is highly unlikely at her age.

    But then again everything associated to SP is always just so darn bizarre. Nothing ever makes sense.

    DebinOH

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  5. Anonymous5:03 AM

    Hey Gryph!
    Dude it IS possible to lose weight like that after a pregnancy. I know its a fact because less than a week after having my daughter I was back in high school jeans!

    Of course I was also diagnosed with Graves disease, had a pulse of 164, had to go on proprananol (sp?) to lower heart rate, and had to eat radiation pills twice: one time diagnostic, one time for treatment. After all that, I wound up on a thyroid supplement since the radiation killed my thyroid.
    But hey, like I said...it could happen.
    :: blank stare::

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  6. ManxMamma5:04 AM

    Great post Gryphen. Keep it up!

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  7. Punkinbugg5:05 AM

    Yay Gryph. You are making excellent points w/the post-partum photos. Wish we could find that video of the April 21 press conf.!

    Now for the critique -- let's think about that .gif. I think it speaks to your credibility if you photoshop the one thing we have (photographic evidence of her shenanigans).

    Naysayers will assume ALL evidence may have been photoshopped. What do you think?

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  8. Virginia Voter5:07 AM

    The bots are all on it, right? What is it, 5 am in alaska , 6 am in LA.

    I would also like to add that Sarahs perfect French manicure, and freshly painted toes are also not those of a woman who just gave birth to a premature infant with special needs . Newborns feed every two to four hours normally, preemies even more so. Most mothers would never be able to spare 2 hours to get their nails filled in time .

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  9. Anonymous5:09 AM

    You must have hit a nerve there Gryph! Is it usual that your first comments are trolls/Palins? Should be a fun weekend!

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  10. PalinsHoax5:12 AM

    Thanks for your post-pregnancy topic, Gryphen. It's about time someone viewed this aspect of her fanciful birth scenario.

    I'd also like to know more about $carah's flight DOWN to Texas before she gave her infamous speech, which she gave after leaking amniotic fluid.

    - Who saw $carah on the flight down to Texas?
    - What was the "stage of her pregancy" during this flight?
    - Why did Todd "can't have a fish picker born in Texas" Palin allow his wife to fly during the late stages of her high-risk "pregnancy".

    Any information you can provide on this portion of her phantom phiction is appreciated.

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  11. Don't forget the amazing claims-to-be-nursing woman, who never ever ever ever leaked onto her clothing or looked painfully swollen. I recall a picture of her in a white blouse with no sign of wet spots or of nursing pads under her shirt; a truly nursing woman would see that as tempting fate. Unlike most of her postpartum clothing, at least the sweatshirt she's wearing with Sadie would pull up easily.

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  12. Anonymous5:19 AM

    Why do her boobs look saggy and kind of big? I will say she looks a tad hefty. However, there are ways to appear bigger.

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  13. Anonymous5:20 AM

    That post-Piper-pregnancy pic looks like it came from an episode of "Sister Wives".

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  14. Anonymous5:21 AM

    Everyone is different post-pregnancy but Gryphen HAS posted a photo THAT SHOWS what Palin's body looks like after her most RECENT pregnancy (Post-Piper).
    This picture shows how SARAH'S BODY responds after a birth....get it?
    There's no way her body looks at all similar post-pregnancy after these two "ahem" cough...cough..."births".
    Hey Gryphen, what's the latest you hear from Fred?

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  15. Anonymous5:24 AM

    You may want to correct something. According to Frank, himself and other close staffers were told the 3rd.

    To anon 4:43, I too lost all my weight and then some in the following 2 weeks. I was 23 and delivered 6 lbs twins. Age matters.

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  16. Anonymous5:26 AM

    I want to know what she was wearing in that interview with Todd (red jacket). She looks massive for her petite frame.

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  17. Anonymous5:30 AM

    "Have you EVER seen a pregnancy that even remotely compares to the Sarah Palin pregnancy?"


    Gryphen, I have actually seen this type of short term pregnancy and post partum recovery before by other women and I'm going to go on record to say that you too has seen this pregnancy time line before. What Sarah has experienced is not new to me, to you or to your readers. I am willing to bet you one brand new United States of America five dollar bill that you have witnessed this short term miracle!
    Are you game Gryphen?

    Where have you seen this Godly miracle you might be asking yourself?

    We have all sat in the theatres and within a 2 hours period we have witnessed a skinny woman get pregnant, watched her stomach develop into a nine month fetus within 10 minutes, give birth, go through post partum and even take her child to school before you've finished drinking your soda and eating your popcorn. In some movies the baby has even grown to adult age, driven a car and even buried his or her 75 year old mother within 45 minutes of birth.

    Gryphen, I’ll tell you what, instead of paying me, I would be happy if you took my five dollars you owe me and take your child out to an ice cream parlor and treat your child to a cone with sprinkles as my treat.

    Thank you for all you do to keep this train wreck in the news and revealing the Lies of Sarah Palin and her family .

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  18. jadez5:31 AM

    well of course it all points directly to the faked birth.

    why the MSM avoids it still is the only question left.

    remember palin the mad, creates her own reality then moves on.

    now why was the wild ride even needed when she could just have claimed the same birth by say waking up in the middle of the night and presto a baby comes before dawn...and its done.

    well..you see by having the wild ride it Proves she was pregnant because if she wasnt then you cant have the wild ride.
    that is palin creating reality.

    and speaking of the dumb media..why has not a single one of them ever wondered why this woman who uses every child for publicty never had a single picture of herself in the hospital bed holding her gift from god?

    no one NO ONE in the media or politics believes this woman gave birth to trig.

    why then they wont say so?
    good and still the only question.

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  19. Anonymous5:38 AM

    Anonymous said...
    Actually, I lost all of my post pregnancy weight in about two weeks. I was also in my early twenties, not in my forties.

    4:43 AM

    Okay Willow, git back to your studies. Just because you are being home schooled due to your uncontrollable temper which got you kicked out of school does not mean you can spend the day reading The Immoral Minority.... and "YES" your sister Bristol is "HOT"!

    I would be hot too wearing two shirts - long sleeve wool shirt to be exact and thick long legged pants during a heat wave in sunny southern California at high noon.

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  20. Anonymous5:42 AM

    That May 15th video has her in that same skinny, black pencil skirt she is wearing at the governors' meeting in February, isn't she?

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  21. Anonymous5:46 AM

    Cute as that last graphic is, I recommend staying away from photoshopped effects. This one is done so well that it makes non-believers think the flat-profile photos of SP could be photoshopped too.

    The fact that the photos that show a non-pregnant SP are well documented does not matter to those who refuse to look into it.

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  22. Anonymous5:46 AM

    My friend is 33, nursed her baby, and gained about 25 pounds when she was pregnant. Before she was pregnant, she was very skinny, like size four or six. it took her about two months to get back to her normal weight, even with all the revved up metabolism from nursing. Plus, she wore granny panties and sweat pants for the first month...

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  23. Anonymous5:48 AM

    Ive always wondered WHY April 18th was chosen. It sincerely makes me believe Trig was born that day.

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  24. Anonymous5:51 AM

    I have a pictures of my wife being strolled out of the hospital in a wheel chair holding my 4th child with his siblings in ties, white shirts and their hair combed standing next to mom and her nurse.

    How sad, I guess Sarah must of lost those pictures of Trig.

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  25. Anonymous5:52 AM

    People who claim she lives on coffee and Red Bulls will try to make the case she'd lose her baby fat quickly. I'd then argue this little point with them: okay-dokey...so Sarah dear found out she was pregnant with a child who would be born with Down's Syndrome. So, let's see what steps she took PREnatally, shall we? The entire wild ride aside, when any sane woman would have gone to the nearest hospital in Texas after her "water broke", Palin's lifestyle prior to Trig's birth is suspect. Let's say, for the sake of argument, she IS Trig's birth mother (I don't believe that, however). EVERY SINGLE DECISION she made, if that's the case, indicate to me a woman who was trying to spontaneously miscarry. What's the word for that?? Abort? Yeah, a self-induced abortion caused by lifestyle. Women who don't want a child have tried it for centuries.

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  26. Anonymous5:55 AM

    Gryphen, did I win the bet?
    Anonymous 5:30 AM...

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  27. Anonymous5:59 AM

    does she have larger breasts right after she delivered? i sure did.

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  28. BAustin6:02 AM

    I remember something about the Palin kids being as surprised as anyone at the pregnancy announcement. But I have always wondered about Todd.

    Outside of the challenges conceiving due to age, a tubal ligation, and a husband on the slope.....I would imagine with TOdd sleeping on the couch and Palin shut off from the world in her bedroom, it would be entirely possible for Todd to go very long period of time without seeing Sarah nekked. I would not be surprised if she pulled one over on him too.

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    Gryphen please find the picture of Sarah returning to the office a couple of days after giving birth. She has a slim red jacket and a black pencil skirt. NO WAY she is post-partum.

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  29. "what is the ONLY possible explanation?"

    Jeanne and Shannyn say diet pills.

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  30. comeonpeople6:05 AM

    Again let's bring up her wardrobe in relation to being a "postpartum BREASTFEEDING mom".
    Easy Access is key, since with a newborn they are on the brest every 2-3 hours. I breastfed both my kids and exclusively wore button down cotton or flannel shirts or zippered sweatshirts (lived in Pacific NW at the time) or light cotton t shirts that lifted easily. I worked part time and absolutley had to pump every three hours or there was a real mess to be had, especially since I work with kids and could "let down" really easily at work.
    None of her post partum outfits I've seen ever ever suggest she was breastfeeding....and the simple reason is those boobies were dry as a bone as she birthed no kid on 4/18/08.

    (also too Tri-G's are notoriously harder to breastfeed, have a hard time latching on and sucking . So, if her got anyone's breastmilk, it was likely pumped). When and where was she pumping in these get ups? Does anyone recall her carrying a Medela brand "Pump in Style"? It looks like a large black handbag but is a stylish double breast pump? Anyone??? Was that Toad's job, right? Carrying her purses?
    Nope. Never happened.
    See Sarah, We mom's who have actually done it know that you are lying. Lie, lie, lie.
    Looks like the cat is soon out of the bag. I for one am happy.

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  31. Anonymous6:08 AM

    basset hounds are famous for their tight abs

    (Thanks for the grin, G)

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  32. Anonymous6:12 AM

    I absolutely believe that Palin faked her pregnancy, but none of these pictures or assumptions are enough to contribute to the proof.

    I was 41 and gave birth to twins, 5 weeks early, and after 2 months of bed-rest. I only gained 27 pounds, but my stomach still looked enormous, and had since around the 6 month point. (I might note that both my kids combined were 8.6 pounds, a little bigger than Trig).
    I lost every pound+3 within 2 weeks. I attribute this to both a fast metabolism and MAJOR post-partum anxiety (which, in Palin's case could be replicated by Red Bull or diet pills, I would think.) ;)
    To summarize, She definitely didn't give birth to that little boy, borne out by the myriad of other photos, her own words and actions, the lack of a Trig birth certificate, the lack of Trig being on the Matsu registry of births, the Wild Ride, etc.
    No need to cloud it with photos that could easily be read either way, depending on one's belief.

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  33. comeonpeople6:12 AM

    @Jadez:
    The wild ride only came up thanks to creepy Chuckles Heath. If he hadn't said Sarah's water broke to some reporter, and then some reporter asked Sarah about what her dad said, this story might never have had the "legs" it has. So, as much as Daddy Chuckles creeps me out, I do thank him for his comments, which took Sarah by surprise, and she improvised the Wild Ride "can't have a fishpicker born in Texas" story...and here we are!

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  34. Anonymous6:14 AM

    Looking at Sarah’s Thanksgiving day family picture, I’ve noticed that this picture was photographed before Aunt Molly bought her new boobs.

    Also, everybody who said that it seems like Bristol has always been pregnant needs to stand corrected.

    I do not see Bristol’s baby bump in this picture. Just kidding Sarah... LOL

    By the way Sarah, where is Track in the Sarah Palin Thanksgiving Day family picture?

    Is Track eating Thanksgiving dinner with his grandparents, the Menards?

    One more thing, if you enlarge the picture, I'm guessing Sarah's toes and fingers are not manicured or painted, she looks too tired to comb her ratty hair... just guessing again but it looks like Sarah must of recently given birth to a child for real this time.

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  35. Anonymous6:14 AM

    I agree, the GIF is stupid. Don't you want these photo to be taken seriously?

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  36. Anonymous6:20 AM

    Computer's running a bit slow, so it's hard to look for it now, but I know there's a picture taken roughly 3 weeks before the 'Gusty/ swallowed a basketball pic that is even MORE telling than the one in this post...

    Grannie Sarah is standing on the left-hand side of the pic, looking to her left/ahead,,, think she was wearing maybe a light-colored skirt, maybe a red jacket,,, and looking FLAT AS A BOARD in the mid-section.

    Anyone know which one I'm talking about?

    THAT one was the 'nail in the coffin' proof positive for me.

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  37. Dis Gusted6:21 AM

    the most amazing thing about that picture (besides not showing any signs of pregnancy) is the gauze square from lipo-suction is clearly visible on her abdomen.

    Can you think of ANY pregnant person that would have such a procedure at 7 months pregnancy?

    IF there were any remote possibility that she was pregnant at all (impossible) - this picture blows it all away.

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  38. Anonymous6:22 AM

    To be fair, Super Model Anna Freemantle returned to the runway last month only 9 days after giving birth to her second child at age 32.

    http://bit.ly/pD4yUy

    However, she does acknowledge going for walks and exercising immediately afterwards, and I have not heard reports of Sarah doing the same. Plus, she was at least a decade younger than Sarah and truly in peak shape before and during her pregnancy.

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  39. PalinsHoax@5.12a has posted something that has long been of interest to me, namely what did Palin look like on both ends of her trip Anchorage/Seattle/Dallas?

    I fly a lot - 50,000 butt-in-the-seat miles a year - often in First Class and I know those FC Flight Attendants have their eyes open. Not only can the airline be liable in an emergency birth, that medical emergency can cause distress to other passengers that a $50.00 voucher will do little to relieve.

    There is no way that a woman looking like she does in the Gusty photograph get on a plane without a lot of comment and concern. NO FUCKING WAY.

    Either coming or going, she'd have been noticed. So, I'd have to guess that she wasn't noticeably pregnant on either end of that trip. Or in the Seattle Alaska Airways lounge, where I'd guess she sat during the connection time.

    Also, I've given birth twice - once in my late 20's and again in my early 30's. I didn't nurse either son - so kill me, they turned out fine anyway! - and I don't think a normal woman after age 25 bounces back as quickly as a teenager or woman in her early 20's.

    But it's the airplane time that's convinced me something fishy's going on here.

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  40. Anonymous6:26 AM

    If she didn't fake her pregnancy then she intentionally tried to abort Trig on the wild plane ride from Texas. Is that possibility easier for you to accept Palin followers?

    That she abused a DS baby in her womb? Anyone who believes she was pregnant must accept the fact that she tried to abort Trig. I'm surprised they choose that option rather than her faking the pregnancy.

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  41. Anonymous said...
    People who claim she lives on coffee and Red Bulls will try to make the case she'd lose her baby fat quickly. I'd then argue this little point with them: okay-dokey...so Sarah dear found out she was pregnant with a child who would be born with Down's Syndrome....
    5:52 AM
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    You make very good points. Also worth pointing out would be the following.

    That this allegedly Christian woman who just loooved her little gift from God so much would guzzle coffee and red bull while breastfeeding a fragile special needs infant (caffeine for an infant with heart problems?) who likely also had problems with the sucking reflex (common to infants with Down Syndrome).

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  42. Holy Fuuuuck!!

    She is SOOOOO incredibly VAIN!!

    That, will be her undoing.

    Guaranteed!!

    Her boobs would still be engorged with milk. She'd be leaking all over those purty clothes. Think she's dealing with nipple pads? ha!

    I had a c-section so I can't personally attest to this, but moms- Isn't it true that you're wearing like "serious", um, "leakage protection" in the two weeks after birth? It's certainly not comfortable and it's certainly not how you "normally" are.

    Would y'all feel like dressing up in a tight skirt and biker boots for an extended period of time?

    Crossing your legs and leaning over for an extended period of time?

    Anyone?

    Oh, and your special needs newborn is home being taken care of by...?

    Anyone??

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  43. Anonymous6:29 AM

    Hey, I was back in my clothes 2 weeks after giving birth. However, I was hospitalized since I was 7 mos. with viral meningitis and sick as a dog!

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  44. @Anonymous5:48.
    IMO, April 18 was chosen because the legislative session closed so that she no longer needed to visible in Juneau and she was then going to the TX conference. That provided an opportunity for her to sneak back into town when reporters thought she'd still be in TX and to have the baby delivered during the night shift. By delivered I mean brought to the hospital from somewhere else.

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  45. Anonymous6:30 AM

    All of this is really easy to explain.

    As ANON238 says, a baby was born in February to someone else. The Baby We Know As Trig was also born to someone else earlier than April 18.

    In fact, ALL the babies we know as Trig were born earlier than April 18 to other people.

    Sarah Palin did not give birth in 2008 to anything but a big fat, crazy ass, madwoman lie.

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  46. Anonymous6:31 AM

    A bit off-topic, but there was a 7.1 earthquake early this morning in Alaska.....

    Gotta steal a comment from another site who said this:

    Why hasn't Pat Robertson come out and said this is a message to Sarah Palin to not jump into the race?

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  47. Anonymous6:36 AM

    @6:31:

    That was not an earthquake. That was Bristol getting off the plane from Los Angeles.

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  48. @Anonymous6:12.

    Yes, a real, sourced photo showing Palin looking obviously postpartum could disprove Babygate. I have never seen one.

    These are photos consistent with the fact that Palin was not postpartum. While perhaps not conclusive, they do contribute to truth in that they show what she looked like soon after April 18 and not a single one of them shows a typical, or I would say possibly, postpartum woman.

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  49. Anonymous6:39 AM

    I don't understand why Sarah allows this to continue. She could easily show Trig's birth certificate and this whole babygate thing would go away. She must be hiding something...why else wouldn't she show us the birth certificate? You know she wouldn't hesitate one second if she had the chance to prove a blogger wrong.

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  50. Anonymous6:39 AM

    What is with the MORE inappropriate footwear and bare legs - but a jacket , so it wasn't some great weather aberration. I'm in the lower 48 and if it's cold enough to wear a jacket, it's cold enough for pumps and nylons.

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  51. Anonymous6:39 AM

    Where are you getting "thanksgiving picture" from?

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  52. To Palinshoax at 5:12 a.m.: I don't know of any accounts of her flight down to Dallas, except that the arrangements (almost like a substitution) for Todd to accompany her were made at the last minute. This is documented in an email and I will have to look it up again but Sarah sends an email to Sharon Leighow, or Ivy Frye or whoever was making the arrangements and says she won't need staff or security to accompany her as Todd is available to go. I think that is the first sign of a scam re: the wild ride!

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  53. Anonymous6:39 AM

    The mind reels. If she did perpetuate this babygate hoax, and the evidence surely indicates that, then Granny Grizzly sure must be shaking in her 3-inch stilletos. Wonder if she'll actually honor all those upcoming screeching engagements? Can't wait to watch this denouement unfold.

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  54. I ALWAYS forget to mention this so here goes:

    I know there aren't TOO many airlines in Alaska so I'm trying not to be "too" conspiracy theory here, but it should be noted:

    Frank Bailey worked for Alaska Airlines.

    Alaska Airlines was in the "Wild Ride".

    Alaska Airlines would not DEFINITIVELY say they WOULD NOT let a EIGHT month pregnant woman on their flight without their knowledge.

    (I imagined they thought it would be IMPOSSIBLE for an 8 month pregnant woman to board their flight and they NOT KNOW about it. They had not yet met our incredibly shrinking Sarah.)

    In response to questions about Sarah they say something like, "It's up to the individual".

    Um, what about EVERYONE else on that plane?

    I call Bullshit.

    I think *maybe* Frank Bailey may still have some *friends/bribe recipients* working at AA.

    Or at the very least, maybe Frank helped to make that portion of the story "go smoother"...

    We know FB ain't clean in all this. He's been quite careful to paint himself in a very specific way, post-Palin world. I'm sure there are still many skeletons in his closet he would like to remain there.

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  55. Anonymous6:43 AM

    The other kids definitely speculated amongst themselves about a possible pregnancy.

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  56. Anonymous6:43 AM

    Keep up the pressure Gryphen. You're doing a great job and I commend your hard work and determination. I always look forward to reading your Palin posts and appreciate that you have not backed down one bit.

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  57. I had a tough time losing my pregnancy weight with my fifth child. I was very active, too.
    It eventually came off, but not nearly as fast as my other's.
    And when I got pregnant with my fifth, I was only 100 lbs. So my belly looked much bigger. I was in maternity clothes at 4 months!

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  58. JayKen Knotstirred6:48 AM

    Hi Sarah, Welcome Back!

    Quick question, Where's Trigs birth certificate?

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  59. Someone should create a video showing postpartum women in different stages (2 wks, 4wks, etc.) While there is more variation with postpartum women than with pregnant women, there are some common trends---and Sarah Palin did not display ANY Of them with Trig.

    I used to run support group meetings for pregnant and nursing mothers, and counseled hundreds and hundreds of new mothers. Some definitely lost the weight much faster than others, but I never, ever saw anyone go from pregnant to pencil skirts overnight as Sarah claims to have done.

    On the average, breastfeeding mothers definitely lose weight faster than their formula-feeding peers, due to increased metabolism. Certainly I have known some nursing mothers who lost a lot of weight very quickly. However, breastfeeding or breast-pumping moms who have lost weight tend to have a top-heavy figure, with disproportionately larger breasts.

    This is not the figure that Sarah presented after Trig's birth. Nor is there any evidence that she was breastfeeding other than her own word and a single press account at the time of her nursing her baby in the Governor's office. (BTW, it would be easy to fake a single discreet nursing in a sling--much easier than faking a pregnancy! Most people wouldn't want to look too closely at the allegedly nursing couple.)


    Women who exercise regularly tend to lose their pregnancy weight much faster. Sarah did claim to be a runner (although there are clearly some conflicting accounts about that as well). However, even the athletic moms that I have known took a little longer to regain their figures than Sarah supposedly did. And there is no way that she would have been able to run off that weight so quickly after the birth of the baby.

    First time moms and younger moms often bounce back into shape faster than older or more veteran moms. This is likely a combination of faster metabolism and the fact that younger/first time moms often have relatively fewer responsibilities. There is much variation. But I have never ever seen a mother in her 40s get back to pre-pregnancy size immediately after a FIFTH pregnancy.

    The other factor here is sheer fatigue. Birthing a baby, regardless of how you do it, is very hard work. (Think of running a marathon.) Induced labor (which is what Sarah claims) is excruciating. Being a mother of five,regardless of your lifestyle choices, is exhausting. Being a working mom is exhausting. Being the mother of a special needs baby takes a strong physical and emotional toll. Put all those together, and you should see a mother who, however brave or resourceful she may be, is not at her physical or emotional best.

    Instead, we see pencil skirts, photo ops, business as usual, and no sign from the Governor's office that Sarah stopped working, even within hours after birth.

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  60. OMG! TOTALLY forgot the crazy bitch claimed she was BREAST-FEEDING TOO!

    BAWAHAHAHAHA!

    I guess you didn't think you'd be seen as "nubile" ENOUGH if you resorted to formula like those "bad moms", right, Scarah?

    I LOVE the comments from the moms about BF.

    Word! BF is. a. BITCH!!!

    Seriously! As these lovely ladies have stated, newborns eat EVERY 2-3 HOURS! Yeah, fuck me is right! That means if it's 3AM, you go feed your baby, practically dead to the world.

    Well, maybe baby isn't really having it. Maybe it takes an HOUR for you to finish off your two boobies. It is now 4AM.

    Guess what? Baby needs to feed again at 5AM!! It's 2 hours from when you START!

    And then if you go to work, you MUST pump or your tits will blow up like achy bowling balls. Were all those conference people nice enough to stop their presentations when Sarah needed to pump?

    Fuck. You. Sarah. You. Lying. Sack. of Crap.

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  61. comeonpeople6:58 AM

    Look,
    WE all have a story to tell about what we could fit into post partum and when. Let's just concentrate on the big picture. Dragging the kid to an office at three days old? I was heavily padded three days later and walked like I had a mattress between my legs, was very sore and tired. Did Sarah even walk slowly or gingerly AS WOULD BE EXPECTED?
    All the information as a whole is what is important.
    100% impossible that she is Tri-G's birth mother.
    For the record it took me two months to fit into my pre pregnancy clothes. Pretty good as I was 34 when i had my first baby, but also a real nationally competitve athlete.

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  62. Anonymous6:58 AM

    What is all this "photoshop" talk? Gryphen didn't "photoshop" or alter anything in these photos, except to add captions.

    Try again.

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  63. This again is in response to PalinsHoax at 5:12 am: I was not able to copy and inbed it, but it is an email from Todd to Sarah, then Sarah to Janice Mason asking if the RGA (Republican Governor's Association) will pay for Todd's travel instead of her staff to accompany her to Texas! It is dated April 14, 2008.

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  64. Anonymous7:00 AM

    Oh, never mind. I see the growing belly effect.

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  65. Anonymous7:01 AM

    When I became pregnant with my first child I weighed 101 lbs. I am 5'1" tall. I was 30 when he was born. I was back in my regular little jeans within the first week. I attribute that to breastfeeding. However, I leaked every time I heard ANY baby cry so I doubt Scarah was nursing this child she claims is hers. If she was, she would have had an easy access shirt on and pads.

    When I had my second child two and half years later, I was 32. I started out at 101 lbs just like first pregnancy only this time, I showed almost immediately and it took me over a year to lose the weight. During that year, I breastfed her and I was chasing a toddler around so you would think it would be easier to lose the weight but it didn't come off.

    I have a picture of both kids pre-birth taken while I was wearing a bikini. My first child, I am 7 months pregnant and about the size of Scarah's fake belly. Again, it took a long, long time for me to show with that one as my ABs really were tight.

    The second child's photo was taken the morning of her birth and I am huge. No really, I am HUGE. I look like I am having twins. I smelled a rat the moment that vain woman paraded her skinny ass onto the stage in pencil skirt. There is NO way she was pregnant only a few months earlier with her 5th child and had ABs that flat so quickly.

    The nail in the coffin for me was that it was her 5th kid. It's possible with the first or even the second if the mom is young but the 5th?? And the mom is over 40 no less??? No way, no how.

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  66. Anonymous7:09 AM

    Dont you guys know that every time you mention Sarah Palin a kitten dies a horrible death?

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  67. Anonymous7:12 AM

    With everything that we now know about Sarah, would be an in your face move to have lipo while claming to be pregnant.

    Gryph, do you know if Shailey Tripp is in the bloomfield movie?

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  68. Anonymous7:14 AM

    6:22..the baby bump was on the flight, it was in the check-in baggage compartment on the flight down and most likely discarded before the flight back since it wasn't needed anymore.

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  69. Anonymous7:14 AM

    It's also telling that she wrote the birth announcement "from God" BEFORE she gave birth, yammering on about how easy it was blah de blah. Why, it's as if she "knew" it before it happened! $arah and her magical mystery birth.

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  70. Anonymous7:14 AM

    I was a physical fitness nut, and in super great shape. I was able to get into my jeans after two weeks after my first born. Not so, with the three children afterwards. I wear a sz 2-4 depending on styles and manufacturers. The "telling" physical change are boobs, after every single pregnancy- the first few months, my 34B is a 34DD. Boobs swell up a lot and they leak milk spontaneously. I always wore dark prints and layers in public, not solid colors or fitted tops. - Photos of Sarah at work three days after "giving birth" are the "nail on the coffin" photos in my view.

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  71. Anonymous7:15 AM

    Compliments to Gryphen for trying to prove the negative. Everybody has a different story about how quickly they could squeeze into their regular clothes following a pregnancy.

    For me, the most convincing lineup of pictures of Sarah are the one where she was as big as a house in previous pregnancies. This one is the gold standard, Sarah in her red shirt: http://malialitman.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/palin-pregnant.jpg
    Women do not carry smaller and smaller with each pregnancy.

    I like this picture of Sarah and Todd who just got married. Sarah isn't very far along, and you can tell that she's pregnant in this picture, even though she isn't wearing a scarf:
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_y1obSLk0ax4/S3KQT-0qVOI/AAAAAAAAE-Y/rMb97MtAdEs/s400/Palins+just+married.jpg

    This picture, was taken during Sarah's so-called pregnancy with Trig:http://www.feministe.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/parnell02-145x300.jpg which is why it is so hard to believe that Sarah is Trig's biological mother.

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  72. FEDUP!!!7:20 AM

    What *I* don't understand:
    In that April 13 picture, she looks HUGELY pregnant. That picture was taken the same day that legislation went on recess or whatever.
    SOoooo...
    All the legislators SHOULD have seen her that pregnant that day.
    YET... *crickets* from them! Not ONE has come forward and said ANYthing about this picture (at least not in public). Did she go into office that day with that contraption strapped-on, or did she only strap it on for the photo-op?
    Is there any way you can talk to any of the people in her office that day and find out, Gryphen?

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  73. Anonymous7:21 AM

    O/T

    Meghan McCain has written at the Daily Beast that the problem with Christine O'Donnell:

    "...promoted and lauded for her association with Tea Party values yet not vetted in the way someone seriously considering running for Senate should be"

    Meghan writing about someone 'NOT VETTED'!! OMG

    The same Meghan who continues to protect 'Daddy Dearest' who is guilty of the same crime in that he cared not about qualifications when he let the Wasillabilly loose on the nation for the 2nd highest position in the nation -- his interest was 'DICtated' by what was 'in the pants'.

    I doubt even on his deathbed, that the McCain family will apologize. Truthfully, for me, that can't come soon enough as he's lied about his Hanoi Hotel stay and everything he has done. He's a disgrace to the U.S. and Meghan follows in his footsteps.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/09/01/meghan-mccain-on-why-christine-o-donnell-s-book-troublemaker-is-such-a-flop.html

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  74. Anonymous7:23 AM

    I just read an older Malia blog where she lists many of SP's bs episodes, where a commenter said: "Keep it up, this chick is sub-human!"

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  75. Anonymous7:27 AM

    She looks as pregnant as Bristol did in Oct 07.

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  76. FEDUP!!!7:32 AM

    Also, too, for breastfeeding, you have to EAT something in order to get milk. She was on a steady diet of coffee and Red Bull and diet pills. Binging every few days does NOT count.

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  77. In confirming what the woman with twins said, I had 4.5 lb. twins as well at age 22 and was back to my pre-pregnancy weight in less than a week...actually a day after they were born and five pounds below that in a week. That, of course, had much to do with how much weight I lost during the pregnancy because of morning sickness. You couldn't even tell I was pregnant from the back, but from the front...oh boy!

    And since I always sign my comments, you can't accuse me of being Willow.

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  78. Anonymous7:37 AM

    Good god, someone believes she delivered because she said so on April 18th? How is that proof she had Trig? What a genius.

    Was Tracks birthday on April 18th?

    Palin has so many versions of things. Trig was born at Mat Su, trig was born in Anchorage.

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  79. Gryphen, the GIF king. That's hilarious! Calm down folks. It's easy to prove the critical pics aren't photoshopped.

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  80. Anonymous7:42 AM

    Jeanne and Shannyn can shove their denial of babygate up their wazoo. Hate to be cruel to them, but, I'm sorry, it's just retarded to think that a woman could fit into a pencil skirt the day after giving birth BECAUSE OF DIET PILLS. Diet pills aren't freaking Harry Potter magic. Uh..duh...it'd still take a few weeks to lose weight.

    Why why WHY are these women so stubborn in their refusal to see the very obvious truth that all of the "logic" they use to deny babygate MAKES NO SENSE...

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  81. Anonymous7:46 AM

    The pop start P!ink has insanely tight abs, and it's taken her more than 2 weeks to go back to normal. And those tight abs didn't stop her from looking very pregnant when she was!

    Tight abs my ass.

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  82. Cuckoos Nest7:46 AM

    I don't want people to start trashing Frank when I say this, but here's what I've gathered from my chats with him.

    1. He believes without a doubt Trig is Sarahs child biologically

    2. I am led to believe that he would support Sarah again if she begins taking responsibility for her actions. (Yes, he's an idealist. I believe he has a false sens e of hope for our leaders. Have you ever met a politician who takes responsibility for his/her actions? I have not.)

    3. His memory may be fuzzy which is understandable but he told me the Palins went to Hawaii in the spring 08. He said it was around the spring special session time.

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  83. Anonymous7:47 AM

    When there is picture evidence of her being as huge as the side of a frigging barn with her first pregnancy -- as more pregnancies progress, you don't get smaller with each pregnancy.

    She had 4 kids and two miscarriages. You don't go from 'as huge as the side of a barn' to being able to hide it for 7 months.

    Muscles have stretched and stretched again and again and they never go back to those 'younger days' when in fact you are by then in your mid 40's. By then gravity is setting in and many parts are closing the gab between them and the curb!!

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  84. Anonymous7:51 AM

    Like some other posters, I recall the return-to-work video clip to be the most eyebrow-raising.

    I believe it is 3 days after "birth" and she is shown jauntily walking toward whoever is filming. Todd is holding Trig until Sarah notices camera (when she grabs him). I don't know of any new moms who could pull off a PERKY walk 3 days after birth.

    She was also wearing slim-fitted black pants or skirt, not sure which but I remember it had a rather high waistband and she appeared flat and trim. Truly a miracle.

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  85. Anonymous7:57 AM

    In the released emails Erika has FORMULA on the shopping list and Palin also wants her to pick up some champagne, too

    http://rawdata.sarahsinbox.com/19984.pdf

    http://rawdata.sarahsinbox.com/19983.pdf

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  86. Anonymous8:01 AM

    Ok now I'm a bit late to the party but I have to ask why would she fake this pregnancy? Was the sole reason just to hide the fact that this may be one of her daughter's baby. Or was it that she didn't think the state of Alaska would approve of her getting pregnant so soon into office?

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  87. Anonymous8:04 AM

    I love these posts.

    In the real world, sarah struggled mightily with losing the postpartum lbs and regaining her trim figure.

    The Thanksgiving photo is proof.

    Another fact that does not need parsing of old photos also proves it: Bristol, the ¨hardworker,¨ the exercise demon who hardly broke a sweat during the DWTS sissy rehearsals.

    Bristol has the same struggle sarah had.

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  88. Anonymous8:09 AM

    You rock, Gryphen! Great post. Her chest looks very strange in those "postpartum" photos. It is reminiscent of the bizarro chest Bristol was sporting at the RNC. Was she trying to make it appear that she was lactating? Looks like whatever she was using slipped down waaaayyy to far.

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  89. Anonymous8:09 AM

    Taking into account the whole story and all the obvious red flags, it just occurred to me calling off the security when traveling to Texas is a very telling fact I didn't pay much attention to in light of all the other crazy things. If Sarah really was pregnant, would this be a time to eliminate security? No. Not when traveling with a precious gift from God.

    Also taking into account traveling with security was probably something her narcissistic self thrived on. She would have never called them off unless there was some scheme in progress.

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  90. Beldar Cairo Conehead8:10 AM

    Gryphen, your smug dismissal of the Screechy Wretch(tm) is going to come back to haunt you. You and all your communistic friends will be eating crow on January something or other when Granny Lulu is crowned QUEEN of America and there isnt a doG-Damn thing you can do about it!

    And stop harping on her faked pregnancy! YOu know as well as I do that MOST women fake pregancies at least occasionally. (Or am I thinking of orgasms... hmmmm...)

    What you have failed to realize is that sinking in popularity to 10% was always an essential part of the plan by TeamScreechy and YOU just werent smart enough to understand it! In the truest marvericky manner possible, she will rise in the polls beneath the radar of the lamestream media until one sunny day in early November 2012, KABOOOOOM!!!!, America wakes up to discover she is our new leader!

    You just watch now. Little by little, day by day, as America learns about who the TRUE Gristly Mama is, free from the distortions of the Chicago mafia Obama media thugs, her support will begin to grow. And grow and grow... Each day a little bigger than the day before!!! Not unlike the way - over nine months - a pregnant woman's body grows as her fetus deve... ok, bad example... But you get my point. 10% in September, 10.25% in October, 10.5% in November, 10.5% in December (because of the holidays) and on and on and on it grows until, if my math is correct, she will have nearly 100% support of the American people on coronatio... I mean, election day!!!

    And to the poster who revealed that The Grisly Momma has staffers who mock her behind her back: PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE tell Lou Sarah that she MUST hire ME to be on her staff immediately!! Because I make this solemn, public vow: I will NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER, NEVER mock her behind her back, as Thor is my witness, while I have an ounce of life in my body I pledge to always mock her directly to her face...

    And to you, Gryphen, I say: time to start hedging your bets a little, buddy boy, and back off the Witch from Wasilla. Because you know, if she gets elected Queen in 2012, she's gonna send Navy Seal Team 6 after your ass.

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  91. Anonymous8:19 AM

    I will believe Sarah is the birth mother when Chuck releases the video of Trig "popping" his head out.

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  92. Anonymous8:22 AM

    Sarah Palin’s Saturday Speech Will Be a ‘Full Throated Defense of the Tea Party’

    Two days before Sarah Palin’s much anticipated, on, off, and on again Iowa speech, details are emerging about what the former Alaska governor will say.

    A source close to Palin told ABC News that she’ll offer a “full throated defense of the tea party.”

    “Regardless of what she decides to do, this rally is for the tea party to kick off this campaign,” the source said, “this” being the 2012 presidential campaign.

    ABC News has also learned that Palin’s speech will reference themes from an Aug. 8 Facebook post called “Conquering the Storm.” It discusses the Standard & Poor’s downgrade of the nation’s credit rating and her solutions to the country’s financial woes.

    A source close to Palin told ABC News last week that her speech at Saturday’s “Restoring America” event will be a substantive, big-picture vision of America. Palin herself alluded to what she’ll discuss on Aug. 25, when she tweeted a link to a YouTube video entitled “Obama Lies 7 Times In Under 2 Minutes!” and wrote, “I’ll be talking about this and more on September 3rd.”

    Palin is slated to be the last speaker at the Tea Party of America’s Saturday rally, which will also feature the likes of Iowa Tea Party chairman Ryan Rhodes, radio host Tony Katz and Los Angeles-based comedian Eric Golub.

    Despite confirming her appearance at the rally on Wednesday after putting her participation in the event on hold, all is still not well between the rally’s organizers and Palin’s political action committee. A source close to SarahPAC told ABC News that her team is upset about how the Tea Party of America seemed to hype the event based on the chance Palin would announce her 2012 intentions at the rally.

    Palin to Meet Supporters Ahead of Saturday Rally

    ABC News has also learned that ahead of her speech, Palin will attend a Conservatives4Palin meet-up in Urbandale, Iowa, on Friday evening. It will be the first time Palin has attended a meeting of the independent group of supporters, many of whom are traveling from across the country to hear her speak.

    Conservatives4Palin was started by Palin’s current aide and speechwriter, Rebecca Mansour. Many of the group’s members are also trying to build a grassroots base for Palin through the group Organize4Palin.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/sarah-palins-saturday-speech-will-be-a-full-throated-defense-of-the-tea-party/

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  93. Anonymous8:24 AM

    From the comment section of the article:

    Sarah Palin doesn’t want the responsibilities of higher office but she is hell bent on getting even with President Obama. She has turned her political loss to a gravy train–but she does this by spreading her message of hate. She wants her family to be the American version of Royalty–but the titles she has earned for this recognition are: Queen of Hate; Queen Blah Blah;; Queen of Mean: Queen of Indecision; Queen of Greed or Cheerleader that is all Fluff and no Facts. $arah is polarizing and divisive and will parrot every negative thought that the Republicans or Tea Party leaders can offer. She is mean as a pit bull and cannot be trusted like a grizzly. Alaskans recognize how she tried to tear their Government down for her own personal promotion and polls say that over 70% of their voters would never want to have her elected for any office in their state. She spreads her hate wherever she goes–and takes no responsibility for her nonsense, claiming that she is a Christian. Her speech and actions show that she is more like the devil and should be feared for the destruction of our political system. She is like the mean girl who turns down a guy for a date–but wants to ruin the guy’s reputation and make sure that nobody else will go to the prom with him. Her skill is tearing other political figures down because in her sick mind she thinks this will make her look better. She isn’t smart enough to offer solutions so she hides behind the speeches that her agents write for her and the support that FOX offers her–but she lacks the intelligence to answer questions about what they have written for her. McCain’s staff members were right–she is good at self promotion but Palin is not a team player and she is very very dangerous because she goes rogue whenever it will line her pocketbook. Show Me the Money even trademarks her name so nobody but the Palin family will benefit from what she has to offer. Palin is very similar to Hitler–both very self centered and full of hate.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/sarah-palins-saturday-speech-will-be-a-full-throated-defense-of-the-tea-party/

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  94. Anonymous8:25 AM

    You journalist ARE SO FUCKING LAZY and INEPT! Do your job! Chicken shits.

    Scarah: You ARE an ugly SKANK!

    SHE HAD A tubal ligation after Piper (HANSON) was born!

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  95. Anonymous8:28 AM

    I don't believe Sarah Palin had such a small stomach late in her pregnancy and lost all that momma weight in a few hours after giving birth especially with her 5th child.

    We had 4 kids and I never recovered my pre-baby weight and even got bigger with each child and you should my wife.

    What? Men gain baby weight too.

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  96. Anonymous8:32 AM

    We have a WINNER!

    Ding Ding Dingbat comment award goes to--------

    Anonymous

    The other kids definitely speculated amongst themselves about a possible pregnancy.

    6:43 AM

    Dream On, unless you live it that cesspool, how would you know?
    -----------------------------------

    Excellent Post, Gryphen!

    My experience, with three kids, is the older I got, the more difficult it was to "bounce back", but I did. It's hard work, and we all know Sarah always quits halfway. Remember the full side photo of her first pregnancy? The one in the Oscar De La Tenta tm red maturnity blousson?

    Great comments, as well. I never even thought of the trip TO texas. Breastfeeding requires a rigorous schedule on top of caring for the newborn and other kids.

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  97. Anonymous8:33 AM

    "The Bravo special was supposed to be called 'Pray the Gay Back.' You get the Marcus Bachmann joke? Marcus Bachmann is one of my new favorite targets, he's Michele Bachmann's husband," Griffin laughed. "Okay, he's very anti-gay and LGBT rights, and it's odd, because if you look at him on YouTube, it's almost as if he himself... or, it's as if..."

    At this point, Ferguson jokingly warned Griffin, who boasts a large gay fan base and earlier in the show even called herself a gay man, to take care with her wording.

    "I would say that Marcus Bachmann reminds me of a lot of the type of men who come sees my live shows," she continued. "And he wants people to pray the gay away, and so I was going to call the special 'Pray the Gay Back.''

    Bravo, however, decided to go with the much more traditional title of "Kathy Griffin: Pants Off." TV execs, always going the conservative route.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/02/kathy-griffin-hints-marcus-bachmann-gay_n_946297.html

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  98. Anonymous8:41 AM

    Levi, when you were in Screech's bedroom showing her how a gun worked , did you see those soft porn pics of her and the girls in white undershirts? that would get your book to sell!!!!

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  99. Anonymous8:41 AM

    I wasn't saying he was born on the 18th because Sarah said so. I was asking WHY she chose that date. Chill

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  100. Sweet anny8:46 AM

    A tubal after Piper! Tubes cut, tied and CAUTERISED!

    Take all the pics you want, believe your lying eyes or not, up to you.

    SHE WAS, AND IS, PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF CONCEIVING!

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  101. Anonymous8:47 AM

    @Cuckoo's Nest.

    You are cuckoo. Frank Bailey is a cover-his-ass, lying-sack-of-faux-christianity, baggage-handler loser. His lies are as bad, if not worse, than Palin's, because he's an Enabler who CLAIMS to have a come-clean heart. At least Palin's hasn't tried that tactic yet.

    Once he drank the KoolAid, he would have believed Palin graduated college, loved Todd, cared about this country, and birthed babies squatting in the tundra.

    Totally cuckoo is right.

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  102. Cuckoos Nest - There was a special session in the fall. Is it possible Frank was confused? The emails document a trip to Hawaii then. Sarah felt guilty and left early, getting back just before the session started. The regular session went from mid-Jan. to April 13.

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  103. Anonymous8:52 AM

    Cuckoos Nest has a new source- Frank Bailey.

    1. He believes without a doubt Trig is Sarahs child biologically

    So what.

    I am led to believe that he would support Sarah again if she begins taking responsibility for her actions. (Yes, he's an idealist. I believe he has a false sens e of hope for our leaders. Have you ever met a politician who takes responsibility for his/her actions? I have not.)

    Yet 'another' 'commenter' with the 'every politician does the same thing' meme. Don't remember hearing from you before here Cuckoos Nest. What actions is it that Bailey REALLY thinks Sarah needs to take responsibility for?


    His memory may be fuzzy which is understandable but he told me the Palins went to Hawaii in the spring 08.

    I can think of a few reasons why his memory might be fuzzy, but he has all those emails to refresh his memory.

    Bring some real or people might question your information and motives. After I read the transcript of Frank's call to State trooper Lieutenant Rodney Dial concerning Trooper Wooten there was no doubt what kind of a man Bailey was. See pages 109 to 114 of Dunn "The Lies of Sarah Palin".

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  104. Y'all listen to what Daisydem has to say. She personally led me to what I think is one of the most significant stories in PARADIGM SHIFT, that of the mysterious traveling baby on 5/3/08. I think that baby was Ruffles, but I have never seen a photo that is clear enough or large enough to prove it. The photo from 5/3/08 shown with this post is a close crop of a larger shot from the Purple Heart Trail event. It is pretty obvious, although specifically unverified, that this Trig had to have also attended the bill signing at the Anchorage airport on the same day. Both of these events occurred before the famous kitchen photos were taken of Ruffles later that same day.

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  105. Anonymous8:58 AM

    Doesn't look like anyone's betting on Sarah at all...

    http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/?searchQuery=palin

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  106. Anonymous8:58 AM

    Sarah's comments here are so easy to pick out; they make no sense at all (making no sense at all is one of Sarah's most prominent traits).

    Here's one of them.

    5:48
    "Ive always wondered WHY April 18th was chosen. It sincerely makes me believe Trig was born that day."

    Come on Sarah, that 83 IQ of yours ought to be able to do better than gibberish like this.

    Here's a thought. Let's see that verifiable birth certificate with April 18th written on it. Then no one will have to wonder about anything.

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  107. Anonymous8:59 AM

    @ Palinshoax,
    I can just imagine Tawd like a kid on the flight with his head resting in Sarah's big pillow belly.

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  108. Anonymous9:05 AM

    Lynne...
    In confirming what the woman with twins said, I had 4.5 lb. twins as well at age 22 and was back to my pre-pregnancy weight in less than a week...actually a day after they were born and five pounds below that in a week. ...snip...

    And since I always sign my comments, you can't accuse me of being Willow.
    ----

    No, Willow posts more relevant material.

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  109. Anonymous9:07 AM

    In the standing photo with the hooker boots---WHERE ARE THE BOOBS!!!! She was supposedly nursing Trig, so there should be significant Boobage.

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  110. Anonymous9:10 AM

    Yes, you can lose weight like that within two weeks - even in your 40s - I did - but your hips don't shrink back for three to six months.

    You especially could lose weight like that if you went on diet pills (I didn't). I think the post-pregnancy pics are kind of supporting, but they are not "proof."

    The pre=pregnancy pics, to me, are "proof."

    MicMac

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  111. Anonymous9:10 AM

    Sometimes I believe sarah killed two birds with one stone by faking a pregnancy. Pro-life cred and keeping Todd from divorcing her. All reports indicate Todd is a good father, who loves his children dearly. sarah knew Todd would become attached to Trig, knew he would not divorce her until Trig was grown and knew Todd was chomping at the bit to leave her sorry arse as soon as the children were all grown. And sarah knows no other man would have her if Todd left, no other man would ever put up with her drama, and no other man would stick around after seeing her nude.

    She had to trap him into marrying her.

    Too bad Todd wasn´t as smart as Levi and dump sarah, like Levi dumped Bristol.

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  112. Anonymous9:15 AM

    Change the subject for a second.
    Did the Palins go to the Alaska State Fair?

    I haven't heard anything and if they did it looks like the Alaskan citizens and media don't give a fuck about them.

    Now I know why Sarah did not have an Alaska "Undefeated" movie premier. It would be too embarrassing for Sarah to have her debut and only the Palins, Heaths, Stapletons and whatever her name show up. You know Palin's real estate con artist bff who ran off with the dairy and trust fund money.

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  113. Anonymous9:19 AM

    aren't nursing moms really thirsty? Hey wasilla did you see Screech downing tonnes of water after Trig's appearance? SPeak up pals

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  114. Anonymous9:21 AM

    Hey Y'all don't you all know I'm super fit and I'm wonder woman and can bounce back from a preganancy just like that! You can tell I'm wonder woman from my super duper patriotic cuff bracelet which I wear on my right arm so it is photographed in every handshake picture, Screech LuLu

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  115. Anonymous9:24 AM

    If Screech really was in labor on the flight home from texas, do you think she would really take the chance of being an item on the news "Governor gives birth on plane, passengers horrified and delayed for hours" Knowing how concerned she is about her appearance do we really think she would risk being seen by 200 hundred passengers lying down in the aisle screeching and panting and pushing while she gave birth?
    Yeah, I didn't think so either.

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  116. Anonymous9:28 AM

    Great job Gryph! Keep up the pressure she's sure to implode...more and more people are believing she faked it, at least in my circle of friends. Those photos of her are damaging even if the lamestream media doesn't want to address we on the blogosphere are doing our best to expose her for the fraud she is.

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  117. Anonymous9:32 AM

    In my opinion, the problem has always been her taking Trigg to work with her 3 days after his birth.

    I've worked in a NICU, and they advise keeping premies and infants with special needs away from people, not taking them out in public, arranging with the doctors when making appts to have the first appt in the day or the last one, or to come in from a back door - so everyone in the waiting room isn't coughing and sneezing around them.

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  118. Anonymous9:32 AM

    I loather Palin, but you got to admit - she faked a pregnancy and got paid for it, plus she snookered money out of her palin-bots to make her a millionaire - nice gig if you can get away with it. She's the biggest fraud..

    now..my mother did give birth after a tubal litigation, but that was only because back in those days they tied tubes,instead of cauterizing and burning them as they do now.

    So things are entirely possible, but it Grannie Screech's case, she flat out lied.Her uterus does deserve to be the topic of discussion, because it's an example of the fact that she's a fraud and corrupt to the core.

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  119. Anonymous9:37 AM

    I'm a petite woman and when I was pregnant with my two kids I didn't show till around 7 months then I ballooned out looking like I had a basketball belly...anyway, I was always small breasted and all of a sudden I had boobs which everyone noticed. No way did Sarah carry Trig in her belly and no way did she nurse him. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out she faked it, ask any women who has ever been pregnant. SARAH PALIN YOU LIE!!!

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  120. Anonymous9:37 AM

    WATCH OUT PALIN!
    CHENEY SPEAKS OUT!!
    "WHY DID SHE RESIGN?"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/02/dick-cheney-sarah-palin_n_946770.html

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  121. I remember Tranny Palin telling the media "I'd just like to escort that Neanderthal back to the cave," when the subject of working and having a newborn wouldn't mesh came up.
    Just WHO was Tranny CAVING in to by returning to work only 3 days after "giving birth"?!?! WHO wants to leave their baby and go back to work so soon? Someone afraid of being looked down upon for shirking her duties to mother a baby? Someone who faked a pregnancy and just wants to get back to directing her cabinet to attack naysayers and bloggers??!!?
    Never mind the jumbo maxipad diaper in the crotch of your pants, leaking bubbies(Hell, my boobs leaked when the CATS MEOWED)and bulky nursing bra and pads, soreness, exhaustion, and all the other postpartum goodies....WHAT kind of "mother" WANTS to go back to work 3 days after giving birth?!?! I didn't see that baby strapped snuggled up to her at all times! Despite all of the above, I was absolutely mesmerized and in LOVE with my newborn. NO WAY was i going to get busy with work when I could be simply holding and staring at that little love for the first couple weeks at least. I didn't go back to work for 6 months!
    That broad....this WHOLE wacky thing is just other-fuckin-worldly!!! The batguanno-ness of it all has kept me on the fence...that, and those photos that came out in People of Sarah and the newborn trig-I think they were outside by the lake? In those photos Sarah looked totally puffy in the face, totally an all too familiar postpartum bloat. (I can’t find those pics now) But with everything that has been surfacing the last couple months...I've been knocked off that fence into the BabyGate lawn.
    I know….ramblin’ on….

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  122. Anonymous9:50 AM

    This from the Nick Broomfield post bears reposting on this post:

    Anonymous 5:18 PM said...

    I think that the Anonymous Writer has struck a nerve when people write here, demanding an explanation, wanting to know where the information is coming from.

    Let's see how that demand for the truth works. Joe McGinniss moved next door to Sarah Palin, and she accused him of spying on Piper in her bedroom (even though photos proved that such a sight line from his house to hers was impossible). That didn't stop Sarah from making a rude accusation, based on no substance.

    Sarah has told some other tall tales, accusing boys in Juneau High School of issuing threats of rape against her daughters, while those threats were never reported to the police or the school authorities. Did anyone demand to see Sarah's proof then?

    The proof that we would like to see is proof of Trig's birth. Anon wrote that he was born sometime before Valentines Day, 2008. The writer claimed to have seen photos of Trig in the hospital around that time. Prove the writer wrong. Sarah must have the same proof that every parent has in their box of memories: the matching plastic hospital bracelets that identify parents and child with date of birth and other information. My kids are much older than Sarah's and I still have those ID bracelets.

    http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2011/08/more-about-nick-broomfields-documentary.html

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  123. Anonymous9:54 AM

    8:22 AM listed the roster for Palin's big screech tomorrow.
    Talk about D List.
    Z list is more like it.
    Eric Golub writes for Breitbart.
    He's also the guy who wrote a gushing, gushing , over the top guest column
    at the Washington Times
    a few weeks ago after meeting
    his idol , Palin ,
    at the Iowa State Fair.
    It was cringe inducing to read
    and he must have been near tears or even in tears after his experience.
    Golub made the Heaven's Gate cult seem normal in their worship of Marshall Applewhite.
    Have the C4Pers started wearing the purple shrouds and Nikes, yet ?
    It's only a matter of time.
    Christine O'Donnell would have been a
    step up for tomorrow's Palin panel ,
    no wonder they dumped her.

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  124. Anonymous9:56 AM

    I wasn't able to shave both legs for the first couple months post-partum, let alone govern a state!

    But, off course she had Todd for that purpose ...

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  125. Anonymous9:57 AM

    OMG, tomorrow is the day that the 'MeAgain' anonymous poster will return and give us some more juicy details on 'Juicy' Palin et al.

    Cannot WAIT for the fallout from that. The bots are working overtime trying to dissuade us from considering that what they are saying is truthful which leads me to believe that they are, since there is such a push to discredit. Wonder what the next bombshell will be?

    Sarah, you will not get away with what you think you have gotten away with...too many people are now wise to your hoax.

    The MSM may not be covering it, but it's ALL OVER THE NET, everywhere I read when you are mentioned, it is common knowledge that you lied, and lied and lied again, that Trig is NOT your biological child, that you faked your pregnancy, that you are an ignorant, hate-mongering opportunistic skank, who shows up in pubic unclean, vile and disgusting right down to your TOES.

    EWWWW, I have to go take a shower when I think of the gunk that must live under those toenails...

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  126. Anonymous9:57 AM

    tweet from @talkradiohost Anchorage Alaska
    As I've been saying for months, #palin will not run for #potus. I stand by that. #tcot #gop #tparty

    THAT pissed off the bots.

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  127. Gasman10:00 AM

    THIS is the issue that will blow Palin straight to hell. At some point, someone who has enough visibility will push this issue hard enough and the media will begin to say, "Yeah, WTF is up with THAT?" THEN when Palin begins to get peppered with questions the shit will hit the fan. The media is simply incredulous to the possibility that any sitting governor could be bat shitty enough to fake a pregnancy or that she could have pulled it off. She is and she did.

    If this delusional bitch would fake a pregnancy, imagine what she would do with the codes to our nuclear arsenal. For the good of our nation, the truth about Palin NEEDS TO COME OUT.

    In a post Palin world, maybe the press will be more skeptical about everything that every politician does or says. THAT would be a very GOOD thing.

    In the meantime, Gryphen, keep up the pressure. At some point water will overtop this dam. I think it is getting close.

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  128. Anonymous10:05 AM

    Ok now I'm a bit late to the party but I have to ask why would she fake this pregnancy? Was the sole reason just to hide the fact that this may be one of her daughter's baby. Or was it that she didn't think the state of Alaska would approve of her getting pregnant so soon into office?

    8:01 AM


    *** she did it to cover for Bristol's pregnancy. However, most people believe Bristol gave birth to Ruffles.

    She did it because her BFF, Gina Loudon, ADOPTED a DS baby and furthered her career. SP (or Todd & Chuck) decided to kill two birds with one stone - they would cover Bristol's pregnancy AND further SP's credentials as a SUPER mom.

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  129. Anonymous10:08 AM

    In that Thanksgiving picture, Sarah and Molly both had just had babies, Piper and McKinley, but Molly looks in much better shape than Sarah. If that is a Thanksgiving picture, that was six months after the birth of Piper.

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  130. Anonymous10:11 AM

    Muscles have stretched and stretched again and again and they never go back to those 'younger days' when in fact you are by then in your mid 40's. By then gravity is setting in and many parts are closing the gab between them and the curb!!

    7:47 AM

    of course Sarah was very much aware of her flabbiness and sagginess. That's why she had lipo-dissolve - it's quicker than dieting and exercise.

    Add to that, bouts of depression that require self-dosing home remedies (chuckle)and pick-me-ups, and you get a woman that looks like Sarah does now. Joan Rivers looks better.

    Let the truth come out Sarah and get it over with before it kills you. Hey....I know. Fake your death! That's been done, I know. But you could do it....We'll give you an elaborate goodbye and it'll be over. You can live your life out in obscurity.

    That's lucky for you considering all the fraud you crapped on the lower 48 with.

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  131. Anonymous10:12 AM

    I don't see a difference in the 2001 picture and the other "post partum" ones. She looks big in all.

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  132. Anonymous10:26 AM

    Oh good, let's parse yet more ambiguous photos.

    4:44 AM

    Ok,ya got some?

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  133. Anonymous10:31 AM

    "Seriously! As these lovely ladies have stated, newborns eat EVERY 2-3 HOURS! Yeah, fuck me is right! That means if it's 3AM, you go feed your baby, practically dead to the world.

    Well, maybe baby isn't really having it. Maybe it takes an HOUR for you to finish off your two boobies. It is now 4AM.

    Guess what? Baby needs to feed again at 5AM!! It's 2 hours from when you START!"

    My experience exactly! I remember reading the baby would nurse every two hours, and sweet jeebus, it was exactly like this! Nursing all the time for the first few months. And, Down's babies do have a hard time with nursing — it would be even harder to get going.

    Head back to govern the state in three days? No way.
    The third day is usually when breasts blow up and begin delivering milk. VERY uncomfortable and the least likely day for a trip to the office. Also, the third day was a day of hormonal mood swings in both my pregnancies.

    Palin made her way back to the office to burnish her creds for the VP nod. Todd, just as much a part of the hoax, would have made this possible. Just like he sat waiting in the car for her while she was being interviewed by ex- Gov. Murkowski for the Senate job she didn't get — Todd knows where his paycheck comes from. He will never divorce her.

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  134. Anonymous10:34 AM

    Palin's pro choice VP cred would have been fulfilled whether she lost or had the baby. She actually would have loved the giving birth on the flight scenario. It would have been great publicity. This is a woman who can't get enough of that!

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  135. Anonymous10:36 AM

    8:10 A.M. - Is that you Chuckles?

    OMG, you are seriously delusional. Sarah Palin couldn't get elected even if she got a brain transplant in the next year. She is not smart enough, her looks are fading and her boobs have shrunk. The sound of her voice is worse than nails on a chalkboard.

    The only thing you are right about is the fact that she would send someone to kick Gryph's ass. This is EXACTLY why she isn't fit for office. She is a grown woman stuck in a 13 yr old body.

    No brains, no boobs, no looks = no presidency.

    Thanks for the laugh though.

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  136. Cuckoos Nest said...
    I don't want people to start trashing Frank when I say this, but here's what I've gathered from my chats with him.

    1. He believes without a doubt Trig is Sarahs child biologically
    ~~~~~~~~~

    Yeah, sorry Cuckoos Nest, ain't no way, ain't no how.

    If Frank hadn't had e-mails to back up certain statements, NO ONE would have purchased his book if it was simply off of his "recollections" or "memoirs" of his time w. SP.

    Not a Single. Person. in the Palin world can be trusted.

    FB still has quite a bit to "prove" to a lot of people.

    Whatever. Twixt him and the Great Beyond.

    Good luck, dude.

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  137. Cracklin' Charlie10:47 AM

    Ramble on, RunninL8,

    Ideas from new additions to the lawn are always interesting!

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  138. Anonymous10:52 AM

    What does it matter if Bailey really believes the queen was pregnant? He is a man and he was a man with fantasies that the queen was the chosen one.

    The reason I didn't (or don't) feel any sympathy for him is because I don't really believe he has had a come to Jesus moment about SP. All he has to do is look at her record and see that she was & will never be the person he believed her to be.

    Of course, being a good little christian I am sure that he will totally believe she has changed as soon as she announces that she realizes that she has been wrong. Of course, that will never happen anyways.

    Frank Bailey in my honest opinion is as bad as Sarah Palin (I believe his wife is the same too). In the book he relates a moment when he & his wife were leaving the Palins. I can't quote it right now because I don't have my Kindle but it proved to me that they are all nuts.

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  139. Anonymous10:57 AM

    @4.44am "parse?"

    really?

    the only Palinite with that kind of vocabulary (ie post-7th grade) was RAM.

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  140. Wow, so much!

    1) I believe the red shirt photo of fatty newlywed Sarah is fantastic. She's got her arms crossed across her BIG belly. You can tell she's kind of standing back on her heels. She is FRUMPY and DUMPY lookin- b/c that is EXACTLY HOW u FEEL @ that point. You wonder how your body go so far from the sexy thing that got u into this "mess"! (j/k- not ALL babies are a "mess", Payliars!)

    2) To 8:01- To ask "why" is to go down the rabbit hole.

    I believe that it WAS to protect Sarah and Brisdull. Sarah's entire reputation was based on being "Christian and conservative".

    As GOVERNOR, she supported an ABSTINENCE ONLY program in the Alaska school system.

    It would have been a DOUBLE BLOW (no pun intended!) to her: both on a personal level, and as a leader.

    HOWEVER, that all went out the window when J. McCain came a-calling! This was the Opportunity of a Lifetime, and NOTHING - Not even Knocked up for the SECOND TIME Brisdull - was going to get in Sarah's way.

    3) 9:05 - Back off of Lynne. She's cool. Just cuz we may be jealous she's pretty, well-spoken and can drop baby weight like a fighter!! (Damn, girl!)

    She was simply supporting another side of the argument which is ALWAYS important. Any lawyer will tell you that they need someone to argue the OTHER side so they know where the Holes in the case are, capiche?

    It's like a Devil's Advocate thing...But Lynne is one of *our* Devils.

    Please don't be so fucking Rude.

    Thanks.

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  141. Anonymous11:02 AM

    @8.01 Palin had to fake the pregnancy because Bristol already was pregnant with her second child by April 2008. (ruffles, tripp) Two babies born to an unwed high school dropout doesn't sit well even in fundie families.

    Trig - the rentababy-- was DS for convenience sake. He would be less likely to squawk about being adopted as he aged. AND Palin could trick her doctor into locating and supplying a DS baby by saying she was doing it for Christian reasons.

    just my opinions.

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  142. Anonymous11:06 AM

    Gryphen, if Todd didn't know she wasn't pregnant, wouldn't that mean that whatever they were trying to cover up, he was unaware of? That would seem odd.

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  143. Anonymous11:17 AM

    O/T Tomorrow, President Obama will get a boost toward his reelection.

    Tomorrow's the day Quitter makes her "surprise" announcement that she's running for president. She has put out fake news leads to make people think she's not going to announce but that's just the typical theatrics we now expect from Quitter.

    The primary themes of her campaign will be diversion, confusion, disorder, obscurity, blame-game, self-victimization, dodging, and the ever-favorite: lying-her-ass-off.

    White hoods off to the Quitter!

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  144. Anonymous11:20 AM

    The photo that truly does this argument no favor is the April 8th photo. It is out of focus making it difficult to visually identify the subject. The photo also looks horizontally "flattened" or "squished".

    I've said this many times on this blog and others; this photo should not be used to prove any sort of point.

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  145. Accente11:23 AM

    I always thought that with you so sure of this story would go only one of two ways . Either you will be shamed after DNA proves it was her kid or you will be always remembered for unravelling the biggest hoax inspite of so much opposition and also this being a sensitive matter . I now think that its the latter . But again , without DNA , nothing is conclusive for even the rational mind.
    all the best

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  146. RunningL*: Awesome. You nailed it. Someone else said "You're in a cocoon of love with your newborn" ~ Especially if you are breast-feeding. It is truly an incredible and intimate experience (which is it's ONLY saving grace! HA! I seriously could only do it 2 months, but I'm proud I tried and glad I did.).

    I totally agree: WHY is it such a point of PRIDE that she LEAVES her SPECIAL-NEEDS NEWBORN (sorry for the caps but it's emphasis~and maybe a lil shouting...)?????

    Other-worldly it is. It's like there are SO. MANY. LIES. from this WOMAN/MOTHER/MAYOR/GOVERNOR...not ONLY could you not LIST them ALL, but you really, truly would have difficulty believing that any person with the above "titles" could be so. incredibly. deceptive. in public.

    Mind-boggling is why we are all addicted to seeing this wretch go down.

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  147. Anonymous11:34 AM

    Did you see this website? Funny stuff.

    http://sea4peepee.blogspot.com/

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  148. Anonymous11:35 AM

    Palin only wears her hair down in the 'belly' shot. Don't want our face looking too slim now, do we?

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  149. Anonymous11:41 AM

    10:36
    no worries, beldar's totally tongue in cheek, absolute satire, comes across as a totally deranged 'bot which obviously fooled you


    8)

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  150. Anonymous11:41 AM

    Oh dear... poor Caribou Barbie is not gonna like this (seems Darth Vader Cheney has joined Karl ROve in taking a few smacks at her loosey goosey attitude towards fulfilling the responsibilities of elected office)....LOL

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/02/dick-cheney-sarah-palin_n_946770.html

    Something tells me, she's headed for a rough ride the next three weeks.

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  151. One other fact....I asked a plastic surgeon (sort of kidding) if he would do a tummy tuck right after the c-section since I was open anyway, he said NO until at least 6 months, so she didn't get tucked right away after Trig either. to explain the post-partum thing.

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  152. Anonymous11:50 AM

    hmmmm:

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/09/02/140148288/cheney-id-still-like-to-know-why-palin-quit-as-governor?ft=1&f=1001


    Aurora

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  153. Anonymous12:03 PM

    Okay...I'm SP's age. When I gave birth in my 20's, I could wear my normal jeans up until birth, and actually wore them home from the hospital. Why? They were low cut and buttoned bellow my BASKETBALL BELLY. I was asked two weeks after I gave birth, by a gentleman that really meant well, when I was due. My belly was really still quite large compared to the rest of me.

    btw.....I am an active 50yr old grandma that would put SP to shame and could run circles around her.

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  154. Anonymous12:14 PM

    OK Nail in coffin: Every woman knows that by your 2nd or 3rd pregnancy, your uterus swells right away and usually pops out as a round soccer ball by 12 weeks or so, then you get bigger over time, and are really showing and looking like you'll deliver any minute by around 6 months. This is from a petite, thin woman, and with my second I was huge in the front but still looked fairly fit elsewhere. Definitely had jelly belly for a few weeks postpartum and I did nurse, which shrinks your uterus faster, but we know Sarah didn't.

    Also consider how self absorbed Sarah is, she would've been talking about every symptom, every pound gained ad nauseum before and after the baby, but Nothing! Not even emails discussing it. I'd love to know where she ditched the pregnancy suit, maybe in the hotel garbage!

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  155. Anonymous12:15 PM

    That pic of her on March 27 looks like she could be wearing some type of girdle to reduce the size of her waist. Women do lose weight during pregnancy, especially if they are anorexic and living on diet pills. It IS possible for her to be smaller after a pregnancy than before it. This whole discussion makes no sense unless you can come up with a credible reason that she would fake a pregnancy.

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  156. DominionistEscapee12:25 PM

    Re: the question of how Todd could be surprised by Sarah's pregnancy announcement...

    I read speculation somewhere (and I apologize that I no longer remember in order to give credit where it's due) that things may have unfolded like this:

    February: Bristol has a baby. Sarah wants to adopt the baby, but Bristol and possibly Levi--if he is, or believes he is, the father--refuse.

    March: Sarah forces Bristol's hand by publicly announcing her (Sarah's) pregnancy. Bristol has to pretend the baby is Sarah's or face the specter of publicly humiliating her mother. From everything we know, this is exactly the sort of "Sophie's choice" situation into which Sarah excels at putting people, especially her children. Bristol may be rebellious, but she's not strong enough (and why should she be, as a teenager raised with these head games?) to defy her mother publicly, especially when said defiance would entail calling her mother out as a manipulative liar.

    In this scenario, I can see Sarah not telling Todd in advance either because a) the announcement/scheme was an impulse decision on her part, and/or b) she didn't want him to try to talk her out of it and/or warn Bristol. If this is what happened, then Todd had the same choice Bristol did--either stand up for his child or publicly call out Sarah for lying (and lose his power as the shadow governor, the chance to be the US VP's spouse, etc). Maybe he was furious at Sarah; maybe a certain fridge on Lake Lucille sustained some new dents; but once he signed on to help perpetrate the hoax, he turned that rage outward to anyone who dared question Sarah.

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  157. Anonymous12:25 PM

    8:01 asked: "Ok now I'm a bit late to the party but I have to ask why would she fake this pregnancy?"

    Well, let me share something I heard recently on the radio... It was a lengthy interview with a Christian conservative woman talking about politics. At the end, when the interviewer finally asked who the woman wanted for president in 2012, she said she liked Bachmann and Perry, even Herman Cain. But her true pick was Sarah Palin. Why?

    "Because she respected life enough to give birth to her special needs child."

    THAT is why Sarah Palin would fake a pregnancy. It's like a secret handshake between her and a million delusional abortion nutters, who refuse to look beyond or scrutinize this one simple "fact."

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  158. Anonymous12:37 PM

    I don't see a difference in the 2001 picture and the other "post partum" ones. She looks big in all.

    10:12 AM

    ---------------------------

    Get glasses Alice

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  159. Gryphen, there is no reason why a recently postpartum woman would not be able to bend over Sadie and the baby the way she was in that picture from Sadie's Facebook. It would probably be a little uncomfortable if she had had a c-section, but a vaginal delivery- no real problem.

    However, the slimness of her shoulders argues that she is not postpartum. Sorry to the people who will claim they never changed a size during their pregnancies, but Rachel Zoe aside, most women put on a few pounds overall, besides the belly.

    The shorts are completely incredible. Honestly, after birth, things are feeling pretty loose and tender there, and there's usually some vaginal flow that requires sanitary napkins, not tampons. I could see longer shorts, but not the ones Sarah is wearing.

    The hair and makeup- Sarah probably would be vain enough to ensure that her daughter's boyfriend's birthday is celebrated with a full makeup job and updo, but I think most new mamas would say, "Eh. He's lucky to get a cake."

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  160. emrysa12:45 PM

    great post gryphen, post-pregancy hasn't been explored as much as pregnancy. that may 3rd photo is damning, I have not seen that one before.

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  161. cckids12:47 PM

    Too true, Gryff. For me, as always, the "nail in the coffin" pictures are the ones from her earlier pregnancies. Because I'm one of those women who just don't show that much--not such tight abs, but a really long torso, giving the baby lots of room to "hide". I've NEVER shown much, with any of my 3 kids, though I showed much more with the two born after I was 30 than with the one born when I was 20. But for Sarah to show so much less with her fifth PG? To quote many Mel Brooks movies "BUUULLL!!

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  162. Anonymous12:49 PM

    I weighted 90 pounds when I got pregnant. I had the ultimate tight abs as was a ballet dancer and very, very toned (waist was a 19). I started to show around 4 1/2 months. Being so tiny (5'2)tall, my stomach was the first thing you saw. I gained 40 pounds. After the baby, much of the weight dropped off, but it took a while for all of it to drop. I was in great shape, 22 years old, but in two weeks time, I still had at least 15 pounds of pre pregnanacy weight. And this was my first child. So I have real trouble believing those lies of Sarah Palin regarding her birthing Trig. She must think everyone but her is stupid.

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  163. Anonymous12:52 PM

    I was as big as Sarah w/ Track (the red shirt photo?) and lemme tell you - I was still that big 7 days later after I had my second. I did know a younger woman that looked fabulous after she gave birth, but ffs, she was young and it wasn't her fifth!

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  164. Anonymous12:57 PM

    "As GOVERNOR, she supported an ABSTINENCE ONLY program in the Alaska school system."


    Too funny and sad, the Retarded Special Needs Governor of the Great State of Alaska who pushed for ABSTINENCE ONLY program in the Alaska school system had her underage high school daughter knocked up not once but twice and her other underage high school daughter had several pregnancy scares and her oldest child knocked up his girlfriend and on top of that Sarah and her mother was knocked up before marriage.

    What the fuck is wrong with that dysfunctional family.

    Then the eldest grifter daughter went out and scammed money by promoting abstinence only between being dry humped on national tv and her real humping with male friends Ben and Gino.

    There she was, Bristol dry humping on DWTS with Sarah and Todd sitting in the front row watching and clapping just four feet away from Bristol while Todd was trying to hide his woody.

    What a sick family I tell ya just sick, oversexed and perverted.

    Now I hear Bristol, who is a moaner during sex, has homemade sex tapes and Todd is out there pimping and nobody really knows who fathered which child with Sarah. Nobody is 100% sure who fathered Bristol's kids.

    Sarah, tell us again about your family Christian values and what you stand for!

    Maybe the Alaskan Childrens Protective Service should intervene and remove Piper and Bristol's children from that sick sex den before they become a statistic.

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  165. Anonymous12:58 PM

    Just found this pic. It's the same place, same event just from a different angle. A worse angle actually. I was going to save it into my archive of Palin pictures, but I'm not actually at my compter at the moment so I thought I'd just post the link here instead.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Sarah_Palin_seated.jpg

    It shows less, but someone might find it interesting.

    -Nick G

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  166. Anonymous1:35 PM

    What kind of a nut would have liposuction when they were pregnant? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. So much for her "tight abs" that she's always bragging about. Who would perform liposuction on a pregnant woman? What a crock!

    When Sarah concocted her "wild ride" story, she didn't take into consideration how insane it sounded to every woman who had ever had a baby - and most men who weren't over-dosing on viagra. Sarah only has an IQ of 83. She just doesn't have the brain power to see the holes in her manufactured reality tales.

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  167. Anonymous1:49 PM

    Don't forget that when Sarah told the story that she was on the stage in Texas, after having given her speech, she was walking off and Rick Perry said "Where you goin'? To have a baby?" And she said "Yes and I did have a baby later that night". Which would have been April 17th. But WHOA! The story prior to that little slip was "I had Trig the next morning". Which was April 18th.

    Now ladies, who has gotten even momentarily mixed up about whether one of your babies was born "that night" or the "next morning"? Or whether the birth was April 17th or April 18th?

    The woman is a liar. And a stupid liar at that.

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  168. Anonymous2:14 PM

    What scares me is the fact that she may show the birth certificate some day just to make fools out of all of us.....

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  169. Anonymous2:26 PM

    I have had 4 babies. It took longer, after each birth, to lose the baby weight and "get back to normal" (i.e., the uterus shrinks back to normal size so you no longer have a big pouch in front). I am petite - probably either Sarah's size or a bit smaller. With my 4th, I looked like I was 4 months at 8 weeks. My doctor thought it might be twins because my uterus was larger than expected. No, it was because it was my 4th. I would add, I always looked like I'd swallowed a watermelon. I did not "waddle". At 6 months I looked like I was ready to give birth, according to a male friend (much to the embarrassment of his wife! ;).

    Sarah Palin is a fraud. And a stupid one at that. Good thing for her, our media is enabling her and our general populace is clueless. Probably won't work out for her for much longer, though. Wink!

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  170. Anonymous2:26 PM

    She went to the meeting in Texas. Okay, people saw her there and what did THEY think? Did they think she looked pregnant? It seems we have never heard from them, but only people from after she left Texas. Has anyone from there in Texas been interviewed?

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  171. Anonymous2:26 PM

    Interesting look back:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20060506014223/http://www.palinforgovernor.com/index.html


    Aurora

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  172. Anonymous2:32 PM

    As per the reason why she did all of this, here's my two cents, and I think it's a pretty good two cents and it's a theory that's been cobbled together based on insights by others on this blog.

    Brisdull hid her pregnancy as long as she could. Maybe she finally spilled the beans and Sarah finally realized what happened October or November 2007.

    Brisdull is pulled out of school in Wasilly and put in school elsewhere...This is the "homeschool" portion of her life.

    She has the baby in February. (Which means she would have been about five months preggo when Sarah discovered it...) The baby has FAS.

    It's one thing for Sarah to reveal that her daughter had a baby...A lot of fundies have teenage pregnancies in their families...A lot of them actually see no problem with this...Remember, when it came out that Brisdull was officially pregnant all the fundies were so, so "proud" of her. Yeah...But, anyway, it would be another thing for the teenage daughter of the governor to give birth to an FAS baby. This baby is Ruffles. I have no idea where this baby is.

    Granny freaks out. She sees her political future circling the drain...And she was supposed to be a contender for vice president!!!

    Sarah convinces Brisdull to put Ruffles up for adoption...Meanwhile, SHE gets on the horn with CBJ and tells her she was thinking of adopting a special needs baby. Could that be arranged?

    She announces she's pregnant.

    Brisdull and Levi get back together. She gets pregnant a SECOND time...

    Please feel free to correct me...I don't feel like looking up when Brisdull went into hiding...

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  173. WatchingandWaiting2:56 PM

    With my first baby I did lose all the weight within 2 1/2 weeks -- on the scale. Looking at me was something else entirely. Even in my 20s, you just don't snap back like a rubber band.

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  174. Gasparilla3:17 PM

    @ Accente, who argued for DNA testing to "shame" all us Tri-G truthers.

    Yes, we need DNA testing, but we need it along WITH a valid birth certificate and medical records.

    If the Trig hoax is the longstanding political plot I believe it to be (Frank Bailey, p. 209, _Blind Allegiance_, dates Palin's first talk of pregnancy to early 2006) then it could have been carried out using IVF and surrogacy. Remember the "Snow Flake Babies" that were all the rage among the Religious Right back then?

    That way Sarah (and her Dominionist handlers) could make certain that the baby (babies) had Down Syndrome, and were born at the appropriate time to use as props to win over the Right-To- Life Base.

    It is as easy to select FOR DS as to select against it as most IVF couples do.

    Even if (as several Wasillans have asserted here) Sarah had a tubal ligation after the birth of Piper, if she still had her ovaries, her eggs could have been harvested, frozen, then used to implant other surrogate mothers (including Bristol?).

    Genetically plausible DS "political prop" babies could serve as Right-to-Life "street cred" for Palin if it became necessary for her to share the ticket with someone like McCain or Romney who otherwise lack appeal with Fundies.

    So, I suggest we consider all possibilities and ask for multiple lines of evidence, not just DNA, before accepting Sarah as Tri-G's birth mother.

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  175. Anonymous4:00 PM

    Gasparilla 3:17:

    So, I suggest we consider all possibilities and ask for multiple lines of evidence, not just DNA, before accepting Sarah as Tri-G's birth mother.

    -----------------
    Well, thanks for puttin the brakes on that! I DID happen to be on the verge of being ready to conclude that Sarah IS Trig's real birth mother and immediately feel the need to start concocting a whole different conspiracy theory that Trig was bought or ~mysteriously acquired~ as a frozen DS embryo and implanted in Sarah's uterus by CBJ. Brilliant.

    Are you JOKING? That's a good one. "...before accepting Sarah as Trig's birth mother."

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  176. Anonymous4:00 PM

    Gasparilla 3:17:

    So, I suggest we consider all possibilities and ask for multiple lines of evidence, not just DNA, before accepting Sarah as Tri-G's birth mother.

    -----------------
    Well, thanks for puttin the brakes on that! I DID happen to be on the verge of being ready to conclude that Sarah IS Trig's real birth mother and immediately feel the need to start concocting a whole different conspiracy theory that Trig was bought or ~mysteriously acquired~ as a frozen DS embryo and implanted in Sarah's uterus by CBJ. Brilliant.

    Are you JOKING? That's a good one. "...before accepting Sarah as Trig's birth mother."

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  177. Anonymous4:04 PM

    What an interesting thread this has been. People are accusing Gryph of photoshopping pictures (he didn't), claiming to have lost baby weight within days (possible, but only rarely, and many of them had extenuating circumstances), calling out Jeanne and Shannyn for things that Bailey said (don't attribute what Jeanne is reporting to coincide with her beliefs, they may not be the same), and a whole bunch of speculation about breast feeding.

    I find the last of these the most amusing. Whether or not $P had Trig (she did not), I always disbelieved her claim to have breastfed him. From the inappropriate clothing to the lack of breast engorgement to her incredible vanity, breastfeeding just didn't fit with her persona. If the woman kept her pregnancy quiet because she was afraid of what the Neanderthals in the legislature would say, she surely would not have talked about breast feeding, which implies fecundity and personal information on a level much more revealing than the fact that sex leads to babies.

    I do have one scenario to dispute with some of the posters, however. Several people have stated categorically that you MUST pump if you are breastfeeding. No, that's not necessarily true. I went back to work 4 weeks after delivery and tried to pump during the day, but the conditions were unsanitary and I couldn't save the milk and just didn't feel comfortable. So, I just waited until I got home and fed the baby right away and throughtout the night as needed. She got formula during the day. We continued this way of dual feedings bottle and breast until she was a year old. The bonding at the end of the work day was wonderful and I was sooo glad that I didn't have to give it up. Maybe I was just lucky. Anyway, wanted to tell my story.
    ~physicsmom
    P.S. I started out wearing nursing pads to work for a while, but I was able to drop them after a week or so.

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  178. Anonymous4:07 PM

    I watched that video of the wild ride interview back shortly after Palin walked out on the national stage. The clip started with the Palins walking into an open area and stopping for photos before walking over to where lights were set up for the interview. She was wearing a red jacket and her husband was carrying Trig. She was walking and moving normally, at a faster pace than just strolling. I suspected at the time that she was wearing heels because she was walking on a tile floor and she was not standing that short next to her husband. Perfectly normal.

    I tried to find that video later, but couldn't. But I have seen a photo from that interview. She's wearing that red jacket and fixing Trig's cap, which she did several times on the video, too.

    Not taking maternity leave was a red flag, too. I took a paid maternity leave after that new law Reagan signed went into effect. But my sister in law took an unpaid maternity leave shortly before that law went into in effect. To look at Palin, women don't need maternity leave, or at least paid maternity leave. During one of Palin's campaign rallies, I heard her say something like, 'I'm not your mama.' And that she takes care of her own. She's like Rubio.

    I suspect Palin did not take maternity leave just in case her hoax was outed. And it will be. The world will see, either now or later.

    Thanks, Gryphen.

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  179. Anonymous4:27 PM

    In the March 26th photo she does look like she is carrying some extra weight.

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  180. Anonymous4:29 PM

    Please no more mothers telling us here how it was when they had their baby. Do you know how boring those stories are. In the work place we run when a woman starts telling everyone their birthing story.

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  181. Anonymous4:36 PM

    I also agree with a previous poster that stated Gryphen needs to show why she would want to fake a pregnancy during her term as Governor. Also don't you think something this big would have gotten out by now. Too many greedy people. I know lots of people in the valley and they know lots of rumors about everyone and they have never heard any credible sources say she actually faked a pregnancy

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  182. Anonymous4:45 PM

    Gryph,

    The 'afterbirth' pics and commentary really don't add much to the babygate conversation IMHO. As expected, the mom war stories have surfaced to counter some of your argument. I could easily add my own which would not support your conclusions on this angle either but I won't. Suffice to say that there are many women, even with several previous pregnancies and in their mid to late 30's who are able to drop the baby weight quickly and appear to be toned and back to their normal size (wearing somewhat fitted clothing) within just a couple of weeks...without clothes a different story!

    The strongest evidence and argument to me are the pre-Gusty and Gusty pics. There is no way a flight attendant could have stated that they were not aware of the stage of her pregnancy once you look at that Gusty pic. There is simply no way she could have sat on a flight of several hours without getting up frequently for circulation and/or bathroom visits as a woman at that later stage of pregnancy. Add to that the alleged labor and she would have been out of her seat more than in it, the flight attendant would have noted that and would have either notified the captain who would have diverted the flight to the nearest airport or refused her boarding on the next leg of the flight. But the fact is, she didnt wear the prego suit and thus she looked like any other non-pregnant passenger. I challenge any passenger on that flight to come forth and state under oath that they saw SP in the state of pregnancy we see in the Gusty photo. No one has come forward yet and no one will.

    And I will remain poised in front of this computer tomorrow for the much anticipated 'Anon' posts.

    sheesh

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  183. Anonymous4:53 PM

    Speaking of HUGE boobs, Brisdull's BOOBS at the RNC were the actual lactating BOOBS.

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  184. Anonymous4:53 PM

    2:14
    ain't happenin', wouldn't be legitimate anyhow if $he did.
    That kid Trig is not $carah's
    $carah's a fraud

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  185. Gasparilla5:52 PM

    Sarah NEVER gave birth to any of the infants known as Trig. The photographic evidence is conclusive.

    But she could have donated DNA. This is a possibility to keep in mind, however remote it may seem.

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  186. emrysa6:14 PM

    Aurora at 2:26 pm sez:

    "Interesting look back:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20060506014223/http://www.palinforgovernor.com/index.html

    thanks for that link! never seen that before. that's a pretty um, plain and cheaply produced website, but interesting nonetheless.

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  187. Thanks Sarah vs. Sarah. Your comments in my behalf made me smile. Very nice. Anyway, losing weight because of morning sickness during pregnancy isn't exactly "losing weight like a fighter." Not that I wasn't pleased about it however....

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  188. Anonymous6:49 PM

    10:08- it was Easter dinner

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  189. emrysa6:52 PM

    anon @ 4:36 pm sez:

    "I also agree with a previous poster that stated Gryphen needs to show why she would want to fake a pregnancy during her term as Governor. Also don't you think something this big would have gotten out by now. Too many greedy people."

    gryphen does not need to show motive here. furthermore, less than a handful of people needed to be party to the story of "Tri-G," so it is not so strange that someone in the know hasn't blurted it out - yet. someone might get desperate for money, but that is another story.

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  190. Anonymous8:30 PM

    Here's the motive if you need it spelled out - when she was Governor, a pregnant teenager would probably have meant the end of her political career, full stop. She certainly would have disqualified herself from any consideration for a Republican White House campaign. Sarah had been dreaming of that for years.

    She only admitted that her teenage daughter was pregnant, publicly - and nationally - around the time of the VP nomination because she had absolutely no choice; her daughter had gotten knocked up (probably for the second or third time) and there was no hiding it!

    At that point she used Bristol's pregnancy to supposedly prove Bristol couldn't have carried Trig (we know they fudged the dates, misrepresented Bristol's Tripp pregnancy), so therefore she was proving that she, Sarah, DID carry Trig herself. The second pregnancy was used to cover up her faking the first.

    A faked pregnancy by a VP candidate - are you kidding me?

    Sarah's whole life seems to be one huge morass of lies. It's quite a prison that she lives in.

    As for greedy people exposing this, you have to realize that she lived far enough away for GOP goons to go up and both scrub computers and scare everyone to death who might talk. Confidentiality contracts were drawn up, blackmailing (w/potentially humiliating or incriminating information) was probably employed, to keep people quiet. It worked, especially as long as people were scared of the Palins themselves and also the Republican Party. Now both are less intimidating, I would imagine.

    The slow trickle of truth is going to turn into a roaring river.

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  191. onething9:19 PM

    I'm not disagreeing in general, and of course she did not ever look pregnant, but I am surprised that people say you can't bend over two weeks after giving birth.

    I weighed myself the day after giving birth to my third child and I weighed ten pounds less than when I had gotten pregnant.

    Of course, I *did* look pregnant. Very pregnant, as is normal for a thin woman. It's just that it was very hot and I got a stomach bug a couple of times and was losing body fat even while the baby was growing.
    I could definitely bend over and my legs were thin.

    Of course it helps to be young.

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  192. Anonymous9:44 PM

    I'm glad someone mentioned the tight abs. That's what of the things that point toward Palin faking the pregnancy. She just said and did things that no pregnant woman says or does.

    Like how many women who don't gain much weight during pregnancy says it's due to "tight abs"? Who says that?! A typical response would be morning sickness, or my mother was small too, or something like that. WHO THE F*CK SAYS "TIGHT ABS"?!?!

    She's so full of shit.

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  193. Anonymous6:08 AM

    Are those dents on the stainless steel fridge in the photo with Mercede? Hehe

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  194. I wouldn't believe SP if she said there was sand at the beach. I do feel sorry for that little boy, whoever his parents are. He was used as a political prop. So sad that he can't be with a family that truly loves him and wants to take care of him. What will happen to him when he's no longer useful to his "mother"?

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