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The idea of Piers "phone tapping" Morgan calling Joe McGinniss out on "tabloid journalism" is the height of hypocrisy.
Anyhow Joe has some interviews with much more reasonable, and professional, journalists coming up today and tomorrow.
Below is the schedule he sent for me to share with all of you.
Tuesday, September 20
“American Morning” 7:00 AM – 8:30 AM
“Inside Edition” 9:00 AM to 9:45 AM CBS-TV
"Book TV” 2:00 PM to 2:45 PM C-SPAN
“Hardball with Chris Matthews” (between 5 and 6pm) MSNBC-TV
The Alan Colmes Show 10: 15 PM Fox News Radio
Wednesday, September 21
“The View” TIME TK Hit Time (b/w 11am and 12pm)ABC-TV
“The Joy Behar Show” 4:40 PM to 5:00 PM Taping CNN HLN
“The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell” TIME TK Hit Time (between 8 and 9 pm) MSNBC-TV
(I will provide the rest of his schedule later.)
By the way for all of you who are currently reading "The Rogue" THIS would be the thread to express your opinions. By the way that is "express your opinions" NOT viciously attack Joe McGinniss!
I'm on like page 92, just at the part about the peephole. I am filled with an overwhelming sense of gratitude to Joe for writing this book. I hope that eventually the journalism world comes to its senses and realizes that this woman has been getting away with much too much for much too long.
ReplyDeleteI was also amazed to find that this book drew me in as do my favorite fiction books, making the real world seem fuzzy and making my return to my everyday life seem strange. I didn't expect it would be so well-written - I don't read too much nonfiction and Dunn's book marked the start of me reading more nonfiction than fiction.
Beautifully written....pulled me right in.
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ReplyDeleteYesterday after my husband and I watched the interview I did a comment on one of your other articles - so I won't go into that again.
I am just feeling really sad today at the way Joe was treated yesterday by Piers Morgan. It truly was shameful - but Morgan knows that. He is such an arrogant ass. All he wanted to do was discredit Joe - without even having read the darn book!! I hope the rest of the week is better for Joe.
Pat Padrnos
I started to watch the Morgan interview last night but it was as rude and vicious an attack as I've ever seen! Murdoch-bot, Palin-bot all rolled into one. I'll not watch Piers Morgan again - ever!
ReplyDeleteI thought Joe did very well against the phone hacker Piers Morgan. Joe held his own.
ReplyDeleteGryph,
ReplyDeleteJust dropped a Jackson into your pocket for your Tuesday Moneybomb!
Keep up this important work! And lock your doors at night!
I wish Larry King could have stayed on the air long enough to interview Joe. I remember hearing King interview Joe years ago on the radio about Fatal Vision. Larry asked intelligent questions and let his subject answer fully.
ReplyDeleteThis jerk Morgan interrupted Joe, talked over him, all with an air of patronizing contempt--total waste of time. I don't know how Joe maintained his professional composure. I wanted to throw something.
Morgan's reputation as an arrogant, pompous ass is well-deserved.
I can't stand to watch any of the interviews because the trend in the msm so far has been to eviscerate Joe. It's like a drum beat now, and each one's picking up the rhythm: trash Joe--trash Joe--trash Joe. Maybe it makes them feel all saintly and pure, despite the fact a few weeks ago they were giggling at Congressman Weiner's underpants 24/7. And Chris Matthews will probably interrupt Joe constantly, too, and ask "hardball" questions; it's what he does.
ReplyDeleteI only saw the first 3:45 minutes that is linked to the video. So far, it looks like Joe held his own. Guess I'll have to look on youtube for the rest to see what everyone else is talking about. Trust, bad interviews, good interviews. . . in TV world, it's all the same. Publicity, publicity, publicity.
ReplyDeleteJoe will be just fine.
McGinniss Reveals the Real Sarah Palin: The “Wild Thing”
ReplyDelete...The book has been longer than a year in the making. Joe not only did research into the real Sarah Palin, but he went to Alaska to uncover the truth about this “hockey mom”, this “barracuda”, this “pit bull wearing lipstick,” this “millionaire,” and this “quitter.” Joe’s presence caused Palin to reveal the barracuda, the pit bull, the mama grizzly, in her. Her reaction was to attack Mr. McGinniss by calling him a child-molester? . Only Sarah Pain could suggest that Joe McGinniss was invading her home, while sitting on the back deck of the home he was renting, while SHE took a picture of him.
http://malialitman.wordpress.com/2011/09/20/mcginnis-reveals-the-real-sarah-palin-the-wild-thing/
I can't wait to see how Joe deals with Elizabeth H. on The View. She will definitely try to play the "sexist" card!
ReplyDeleteThere are a few people who saved us from Sarah...Katie Couric, Tina Fey began the end, and Gryphen and the other diligent bloggers took up the fight, and now Joe is finishing the job, along with the yet to be received 'Fred' and Nick B. Life is good.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous @ 7:09..
ReplyDeleteYou wrote the exact words I was thinking.. Joe did well in the interview.
Joe is an articulate & thoughtful..
I actually thought Morgan was salivating there for a moment.. trying to get his spin in.
Having spent a good deal of my life living in rural, western North Carolina, my husband and I often say Sarah Palin for VP would be the equivalent of the mayor of Bryson City, NC, making the national stage. Half way through The Rogue, I see that our perception is pretty much spot on. I think the reason journalists don't get it is because people who have never experienced such a rural culture can't conceive that much of what goes on there could be real. They have no concept of a place like Wasilla, so it's easy to chalk it all up to grandiose rumor and innuendo. This fact has allowed Palin a free pass for a long time. It's truly appalling that she's made it this far. No wonder she always has that look of self satisfaction on her face. Believe me, no matter what happens, Palin is very proud of herself, and her ego is all she cares about. I wonder if she has any idea that it might not last forever, and if so, what that will be like for her. I have a feeling going back to Wasilla is not acceptable to Sarah Hollywood.
ReplyDeletewell..joe should have known thats what morgan does to everyone.
ReplyDeletefor some reason he thinks its his job to try to make guests look bad.
i have told you all that even though fox news lies distorts and just makes things up..the other media supports everything they do because its all about corporate power and keeping people dumb.
morgan isnt fit to carry Larry Kings jockstrap.
ReplyDeleteJoe McGinniss was very professional while Piers was very unprofessional.
ReplyDeleteJust finished the book. It was excellent.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe what Joe went through, even in just the first week of living next door to the Palins.
ReplyDeleteI mean, I knew it was bad because we saw the facebook post and all the hysterical threats and accusations, but reading it from Joe's point of view is making me kind of sick to my stomach.
Reading how they stacked the deck against the hospital to cut off access to legal medical care makes me sick.
Reading about how she ran her Mayoral campaign makes me sick.
And it's not new information, a lot of it. I read the campaign stuff in Geoffrey's book, but somehow, in Joe's book, it is far more vivid and viceral.
*sigh*
She's gotten away with so much, and she's done so much evil, I'm beginning to think there will not be any kind of cleansing moment where she is held accountable.
This, too, makes me sick.
Whether people really know how to read is a serious question. I expressed some of my concerns with my post, "Waiting for 'The Rogue' -- Do we know how to read?" Now, Tucker Carlson has got into a fight with Greta Van Susteren, who, apparently, doesn't know anything about quotation marks! The story is interesting, because it's a story about how "conservatives" are at each other's throats over Joe McGinniss' new book:
ReplyDeletehttp://palinquestions.blogspot.com/2011/09/waiting-for-rogue-tucker-carlson-has-to.html
http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/20/thedc-morning-carlson-explains-to-van-susteren-how-quotation-marks-work/
Didn't you hear? Piers Morgan is a flaming pussy liberal, Ted Neugent said so!
ReplyDeleteI watched Piers last night and although I'm not a fan of his, I really think he did what he had to do, and that Joe Mc came off very well as a result. Piers would have been accused of soft-balling Joe if he had behaved in any other way.
ReplyDeleteI feel that Joe handled the line of questioning very well, and was able to head off some of the criticisms flying around with ease. I actually think Piers HELPED him more than hurt.
Gotta go....my copy just came!
“Sarah Palin has lived an outrageous life, and all I did was talk to people about it,” he said. “When I was comfortable with the veracity of what I heard, I put it into the book.”
ReplyDeleteWhen asked if there as anything likable about Sarah Palin, McGinniss could only think of one thing.
“I lived next to her and of course I never looked at what was going on on the other side of the fence, but I knew that a lot of the ducks on Lake Lucille went over toward the Palin dock, and I can only think that that’s because she was feeding them. And feeding the ducks would be a nice thing to do,” McGinniss said.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63914.html
Well, it's unfortunate that Piers is outraged, considering the kind of media outlets he has headed up in the past. However, I think Joe held his own, and I'm not going to hate Piers Morgan, either. No matter who he has on, he tends to ask them the questions that people are most interested in. May not have been the case this time, but I've thoroughly enjoyed Piers grilling the hell out of other past guests. I'm sure he would do the same if Sarah Palin was on his show, too.
ReplyDeleteCNN is still on the air?
ReplyDeleteI too disregard CNN as a news worthy channel, But I did lower my standards last night just for Joes interview, As hard as Morgan tried he couldn't get the reaction out of Joe that he depends on to be a gotcha commentator, The more I see Mr McGinniss in these interviews the higher his credibility ratings go especially after the pre interview hit pieces that were launched against him by pro Palin forces
ReplyDeleteAnon 7:25 am: "She's gotten away with so much, and she's done so much evil, I'm beginning to think there will not be any kind of cleansing moment where she is held accountable.
ReplyDeleteThis, too, makes me sick."
I understand how you feel. But the truth is, Sarah Palin's actions may make ultimately end up making larger ripples in the universe than just her personal accountability will. For one thing, I honestly believe that her histrionic cries of "death panels" made people realize how ludicrous the Republican opposition to health care reform was. It got passed, didn't it? I also believe her "Obama pals around with terrorists" accusation turned a lot of moderates and independents off to the McCain/Palin ticket, which spared us from their taking the White House. Finally, if she keeps up her current bashing of Republicans, it looks like she's going to put a deep fracture in that party. No doubt she's a troublemaker who sows discord wherever she goes, but it tends to have a nice unifying effect among the sane in this country.
@Jude, I have only watched Piers Morgan one or two other times, and he was not out to attack the guests (whoever they may have been), so I was very surprised at the tone yesterday. I felt Joe was somewhat taken aback and I think it got really strange when they went round and round about what he was inferring and what he was suggesting v. what he had actually said. The whole thing was a disappointment. However, until I read your comment I hadn't realized what a loss it was to lose Larry King, who, despite whatever his opinions may have been, didn't tread on people and actually had a conversation with his guests. What a shame and what a waste.
ReplyDeleteLittle bit OT here, but I discovered Piers Morgan's Twitter account is now locked. I'm not sure when this happened. Wonder if it had anything to do with last night's interview. I'm sure all the Palinbots were furious that Joe was there. Just one of life's little mysteries I guess...
ReplyDeletePersonally, I think it could have been better written. It felt choppy. But there's was a lightness to it.
ReplyDeleteFinally, Sarah Palin has to put up - or shut up
ReplyDeleteTHE next two weeks will determine the future of Sarah Palin. She has promised to make her mind up on whether she will run for the Republican nomination by the end of this month, and this week Joe McGinniss's devastating portrait, The Rogue, will be published.
That's quite a combination - and could lead to either the end of the Palin phenomenon or the beginning of its next and more lethal stage.
The initial reaction of Palin's husband, Todd, to nuggets of the book leaked to the National Enquirer suggests that, whatever happens, there will be fireworks.
...By chance, while looking for a place to stay when he was researching the book in Palin's home town of Wasilla, he was offered the rental property next door. Hardly believing his luck, he said yes - and got a blast of pre-publicity, courtesy of the Palins. Sarah accused McGinniss of spying on her and her kids, while Todd built a high wooden fence to obscure any view.
But McGinniss was not there to spy on the Palins, even if his location got under their skin. There's no evidence he ever behaved anything but impeccably. But once the news spread, almost everyone he met in Wasilla offered him a gun for self-defence. He declined.
What McGinnis found was a climate of fear of the Palins in Alaska, especially in Wasilla. The people he met had grown up with or worked for the Palins or knew them closely, and they were prepared to tell the true story: a woman of no executive skills, bored with government, incapable of mothering, connected to the most extreme versions of evangelical Christianity, invariably in one mood swing or another, and vicious and vindictive towards anyone who got in her way.
The gossipy bits of the book -
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/finally-sarah-palin-has-to-put-up-or-shut-up/story-e6frg6ux-1226142078735
I was on the fence about pre-ordering for my Kindle until I read your review. I've followed IM and others for years now and feel I know quite a lot as it is on the subject. I am three chapters in and so glad I bought it. I have already heard the "I can't believe you paid good money to read about Sarah Palin" comment twice today. Most people have such distaste for her, I can see where they're coming from. I consider it money well spent and will be sharing it with others as soon as I finish. Definitely a good read!
ReplyDeleteJust sent you a few bucks - thank you for all your efforts in exposing the fraud that is Sarah Palin. I'm awaiting my copy of The Rogue and hope to catch up with the rest of you!
ReplyDeleteKaren from California
I agree fully with justforpostinhere@7.29a. Morgan asked the questions he HAD to ask and McGuinniss did a fine job answering them. I thought it was a win-win situation.
ReplyDeleteI had ordered the book but then cancelled and ordered it in the Kindle version so I could begin earlier in the day. (UPS gets delivered very late in the day in Santa Fe). Good so far.
OOps, and send me the follow-up comments. I forgot to check that in my comment.
ReplyDeleteThis morning's "interview" on CNN was conducted by two women who seemed appalled by the salacious leaks about Palin and kept implying that McGinniss's book was all about sex and drugs. Clearly they hadn't read it, and clearly they didn't hear him when he said the Enquirer had printed only the juicy, personal parts.
ReplyDeleteAll of the reviewers, so far, have discounted his work by attacking him for moving next door to the Palins, while not reading his explanation for doing so.
I await some serious reviewer or interviewer looking at the extreme religiosity of the Tea Party and Palin's role in it. That's why people want to know about Sarah Palin: she's still a force in our politics, even is she herself can't ever again win a public office. She's powerful and crazy, and all information about her should be available for public scrutiny.
I'd like to see Joe bring up the media's complicity in Sarah's mythology and turn the tables on the next broadcaster whose intention is focused on attacking the messenger. It's unfortunate most of the interviews are short with limited time for Joe to get to the overall themes rather than specific incidents.
ReplyDeleteJoe will face the same type of interview on The View if Barbara Walters is there...probably even worse. She'll remind us all how she's met the Palins and they're just too wonderful.
Despite the complaining about anonymous comments, I'm surprised at how many people DID speak on the record. Too bad so many reviewers focused on the salacious bits rather than the truly insightful material.
ReplyDeleteIt's also striking how prescient early Frontiersmen editorials were about her Reign of Error as mayor. It was all there in front of us, the whole time. . . .
Must....resist... temptation...to peek.... at Chapter 19.
You know, I would never call Piers Morgan a prick or similar derogatory name but he didn't do a good job of interviewing the author about his book. (I learned that trick from Sarah.)
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin is an expert at playing the victim. If she had been on the receiving end of the Pier Morgan treatment, she would be screaming "foul" "Sexist" and "lamestream media." It is to Joe's credit that he handled himself well.
ReplyDeleteThere are people who watch CNN who never read about Sarah Palin on the internet. He was exposed to a new audience. Those people who love Sarah will be delighted that Joe was attacked. Those people who dislike Sarah will feel sympathy for Joe. The reason that he was there was to promote book sales. Let's hope that he was successful in reaching more people and selling his books.
No less an authority than Walt Monegan believes what Gryphen and other bloggers have said all along about Track's army enlistment. Is there anything the Rogue didn't lie about?
ReplyDeleteLike other dedicated readers, I'm sending a little PayPal love your way today, G, just to show my appreciation.
I don't think Piers Morgan was picking on Joe. I watched the preceding interview, waiting for Joe, and he did the same thing to her. It's just his modus operandi - ask questions (and making it sound like something sinister or incompetent or weak or... is going on); answers are a nuisance.
ReplyDeleteJoe has long been one of my favorite writers. HIs books are always easy to read and like another poster already said, pull you right in. Making it a fast read.
ReplyDeleteOn chapter 5 at the moment, I think this may be a book I will read many times and will still be able to pull more context out each time.
Little Rabbit
Someone earlier posted: "Little bit OT here, but I discovered Piers Morgan's Twitter account is now locked. I'm not sure when this happened. Wonder if it had anything to do with last night's interview. I'm sure all the Palinbots were furious that Joe was there. Just one of life's little mysteries I guess..."
ReplyDeleteWell, wouldn't it be just karma if everyone who is still soft-balling Sarah while trashing Joe and his book STILL ended up getting multiple threats from the bots? So that perhaps, just once, the media could get some comprehension of what is still going on in Wasilla – and the scene Joe described in his book?!
How Palin Haters Help Palin
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I'm on Chap 4 or 5-- so far nothing new about Palin that I hadn't sussed out on my own. (Why must men research what women knew by instinct?)
ReplyDeleteBut the part that chills me most is Wasilla. I'm sorry for those of you who are kind, upstanding, good people who live there, but frankly, it reads like hell on earth.
A dead lake, homeschooled children kept from public scrutiny, people who don't want a police force. I could go on, but no amount of scenery would make me want to live with Wasillians for neighbors.
Palin was created by the place she comes from. Why should we expect her neighbors to out her? The lower 48 welcomed her with open arms, and the media should be lynched for it.
Watched the Morgan interview last night (against my own better judgment!) and Piers didn't fail me - he was his usual pompous, contemptible a$$!! Joe held his own and came across very well, in spite of Morgan.
ReplyDeleteDisagree with justforpostinhere - Morgan didn't do what he had to do. There's no excuse for his rudeness. He needs to learn how to interview.
On the other hand, Mike Pesca, filling in for Leonard Lopate on WNYC did a good interview with Joe yesterday. You can listen at wnyc.org (http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/2011/sep/19/). He didn't agree with everything Joe said, but was respectful and asked good questions.
Patiently waiting for my copy to arrive to read it for myself.
Morgan is a reality show judge. McGinniss is a well-educated journalist who's weathered many professional earthquakes with aplomb.
ReplyDeleteThat's what our media is.
Just finished it - a sprightly read. She's nuts.
ReplyDeleteFor those of you lamenting the exit of Larry King, perhaps you don't remember how he and CNN's shill for big pharma, Dr Dupka, tried to do a hit job on Michael Moore and ganged up on him after his documentary, "Sicko," came out.
ReplyDeleteGotta protect all those big pharma advertising dollars spent at CNN!
justforpostinhere said: "I actually think Piers HELPED him more than hurt."
ReplyDeleteYep, he gave Joe an opportunity to defend himself from the media's current pearl-clutching on behalf of Sarah Palin. And unlike Sarah Palin, Joe had the guts to take the hits and defend himself. The woman doesn't even have the courage to participate in the GOP debates! By the way...why isn't the media making a note of that? It's quite relevant and has nothing to do with her sex life.
If anyone reads this book , and Dunn's, with an open mind, they will find this woman and her followers not only deluded and ignorant, but extremely dangerous. I do not understand why the MSM is only covering the salacious parts of the book which are a very minor part of the portrait which unfolds of a very very dangerous ego driven demagogue.Joe has done the world a favour by exposing the myth of the folksy hockey mom for the reality of what she is. I shudder to think of what might have happened had John McCain won and then died while in office.The first nation to have crossed her would have suffered terribly while the hawks cheered her on. The book is very well written and the narrative carries the reader along effortlessly.
ReplyDeleteTwo For Tuesday!
ReplyDeleteEveryone PLEASE go to the main page of Immoral Minority and click on the PayPal "donate" button on the upper right sidebar!
If Gryphen has ever helped you feel like you're not alone in the fight to stop Sarah Palin's corruption, lies, and tirades against the innocent, PLEASE consider donating just $2!
Of course you can donate any amount- other ideas include skipping a small luxury like a daily Starbucks and donating the cost to Gryphen. He really deserves a little payoff for his YEARS of tireless effort.
Let's do it guys! Make it a banner day for Gryphen!
"Finally, Sarah Palin has to put up - or shut up"
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/finally-sarah-palin-has-to-put-up-or-shut-up/story-e6frg6ux-1226142078735
I've always thought it was a huge mistake for Joe M. to rent the house next door to the Palins. May have been a convenient location for him, and his motives may have been pure, but it still opened the floodgates to stalking accusations, starting with the number one publicity whore herself, on down to just about every MSM outlet that now feels duty-bound to raise the stalkking issue whenever Joe's book is so much as mentioned. Joe then is put on the defensive, having to defend himself against the stalking charges, while Sarah comes off as the victim.
ReplyDeleteUndoubtedly Joe's book would never have received a positive reception regardless of where he stayed in AK, because it makes the MSM look bad. But it was Joe himself who gave them that specific ammunition to use against him. Bad call on his part.
And don't anybody call me a troll, please. I don't see how everybody isn't thinking the same thing. He really really REALLY should have known better than to move in next door to the Palins when he was conducting research on Palin. And considering that Joe is a smart man, I can't believe this reaction took him by surprise, so I really have to wonder why he sabotaged himself.
Obviously Mr. Morgan is infatuated with the Queen of the teabaggers and CNN was infatuated with itself over the teabaggers debate. The lamestream media just cannot admit how lamestream they really are. Morgan was extremely rude and I doubt he read the book.
ReplyDeleteJoe held his own quite well and I'm looking forward to every interview. Tell CNN how you feel about this on their P.Morgan blog:
http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/19/rogue-author-joe-mcginniss-im-so-sick-of-sarah-palin-right-now-i-hope-to-never-hear-her-name-again/#comment-33499
I'm on the part in the book where Palin has gotten rid of John Cooper, and she's attacking Irl Stambaugh and Ellen Emmons.
ReplyDeleteIt was downloaded on my Kindle-for-PC reader at 11:29 PM PDT last night -- I'm nearly 1/3 through the book! At the bottom of the screen it says "30% Location 1495 of 5166".
I must say, it looks like Joe McGinniss scoured the archives of every blog including IM that concentrated on debunking the Palin myths since August 2008 (and some, before).
Then he evidently transcribed what he found into his book after verifying the information via interviews or examining official or news records.
I don't recall reading the "salacious" stuff that the National Enquirer reprinted from the book on any of the blogs, though, so McGinniss must have found a few more folks willing to talk.
Other than that, so much of what I've read so far is old news to me, as it is to every other "regular" here and elsewhere, but the value of the book, of course, is that everything gleaned these past 3 years is all in one handy place.
According to Amazon Best Sellers Rank, "The Rogue" is:
#2 in Best Sellers in Women's Biographies (Jaycee Dugard's book is #1)
#3 in Best Sellers in Political Leader Biographies (Cheney's book and a book about "an American family in Hitler's Berlin" are #1 and #2).
#58 in Books
#119 Paid in Kindle Store
The book seems to be moving up all the lists rapidly.
But the heart of the story is more revealing. Palin seems consumed with ambition, but strangely uninterested in the business of government or, indeed, any deep knowledge of any difficult subject. She never drops a grudge. She sees no distinction between public office and private gain. She has lived a lonely life as an adult teenager, coming straight from work to skulk in her room, taking trips to department stores rather than going to meetings, her children left to fend for themselves.
ReplyDeleteIt is a pitiable profile of a lost soul, who combines white-knuckle delusions with the bizarre practices and doctrines of the "dominionist" movement, seeking to expand Christian control over secular society. And she believes in witches - she had herself protected from them by a minister in her old church.
And, yes, the story of her last pregnancy is so bizarre it deserves a full chapter. She declared it at seven months, to universal disbelief from everyone, including her own staff. It is rare that a governor's pregnancy is immediately dismissed as impossible on the record in the local paper by her political colleagues. Photos of her in this period are rare (a handful exist and in some she barely looks three months pregnant).
At eight months, she agreed to fly to Texas for a speech. At 4am in a Texas hotel her waters broke, she says. Nonetheless, she gave the speech at noon, full of jokes, writing in her book the unforgettable words: "Big laughs. More contractions."
She refused to go to the nearby children's hospital to deliver a child who was already diagnosed with Down's syndrome, but travelled all the way back to Alaska to her local hospital, on two long-distance flights. The crew are on record as having no idea she was close to giving birth. Two days later she was back at work. Months later she was holding up "this precious child", Trig, at the Republican convention like a scene from The Lion King.
I've never believed this story.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/finally-sarah-palin-has-to-put-up-or-shut-up/story-e6frg6ux-1226142078735
I'm finally able to send you some real cash so you won't have to keep drinking that virtual beer anymore. But you'll still have to manage to get by with the virtual Champagne though.
ReplyDeleteThanks for everything you do.
For those of you lamenting the exit of Larry King, perhaps you don't remember how he and CNN's shill for big pharma, Dr Dupka, tried to do a hit job on Michael Moore and ganged up on him after his documentary, "Sicko," came out.
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Dupka? LOL
If you're going to attack someone, maybe start with getting their name right.
Lest anyone misunderstand my post at 8:02, the "Rogue" whose lies I referred to is Palin herself--not Joe's book by that title.
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to seeing Joe on Lawrence O'Donnell tonight.
To the poster who noted Larry King's treatment of Michael Moore--I wouldn't nominate King for sainthood, but his interview of Joe McG re Fatal Vision was exemplary.
I just returned from my local Barnes & Noble in Hadley, Mass., which would happen to be local to Joe McGinniss. There is a table with a sign 20% off New Arrivals with about eight copies of his book. Adjacent to that is a Bargain Books table with a higher stack of Sarah Palin's Going Rogue for $5.95.
ReplyDeleteSince I have rarely seen any more than one or two of her books at any time in the store, I wonder if they were brought in for people to buy both.
I had expected to see a display with a Local Author table but there wasn't. I suspect his book may sell better on an ebook. I'll be reading a copy on my Kindle as I did Dunn's book.
This area, called the Pioneer Valley, has five, well-known prestigious colleges in a small radius. A lot of highly educated people live around here, e.g., other than Joe McG, Rachel Maddow for one.
Western Mass. is the bluest part of the state. Sarah Palin isn't on the radar. Yet, what many have failed to understand is Sarah Palin is dangerous to our civil, political discourse.
Gryphen..enjoy the donation.
ReplyDeleteYou earned it!
Piers Morgan is a tool. I've been boycotting CNN since they propped-up the Teabaggers with a legitimate "debate." Wolf Blitzer was positively and embarrassingly starstruck and sycophantic. I wrote to their "news" department to say "Here's a news flash for you. I'll NEVER watch CNN again." I made an exception to watch Joe McGinniss, and what a disappointment! Joe did OK under the circumstances, but Piers is such a dolt. I'd like to ask Piers: "What did you know, and when did you know about Murdoch's phone hacking?" Crickets?
ReplyDeleteReposting this because it's worth reading a second time. Look what happens when the media has some perspective:
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
But the heart of the story is more revealing. Palin seems consumed with ambition, but strangely uninterested in the business of government or, indeed, any deep knowledge of any difficult subject. She never drops a grudge. She sees no distinction between public office and private gain. She has lived a lonely life as an adult teenager, coming straight from work to skulk in her room, taking trips to department stores rather than going to meetings, her children left to fend for themselves.
It is a pitiable profile of a lost soul, who combines white-knuckle delusions with the bizarre practices and doctrines of the "dominionist" movement, seeking to expand Christian control over secular society. And she believes in witches - she had herself protected from them by a minister in her old church.
And, yes, the story of her last pregnancy is so bizarre it deserves a full chapter. She declared it at seven months, to universal disbelief from everyone, including her own staff. It is rare that a governor's pregnancy is immediately dismissed as impossible on the record in the local paper by her political colleagues. Photos of her in this period are rare (a handful exist and in some she barely looks three months pregnant).
At eight months, she agreed to fly to Texas for a speech. At 4am in a Texas hotel her waters broke, she says. Nonetheless, she gave the speech at noon, full of jokes, writing in her book the unforgettable words: "Big laughs. More contractions."
She refused to go to the nearby children's hospital to deliver a child who was already diagnosed with Down's syndrome, but travelled all the way back to Alaska to her local hospital, on two long-distance flights. The crew are on record as having no idea she was close to giving birth. Two days later she was back at work. Months later she was holding up "this precious child", Trig, at the Republican convention like a scene from The Lion King.
I've never believed this story.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/finally-sarah-palin-has-to-put-up-or-shut-up/story-e6frg6ux-1226142078735
8:38 AM
Sarah the SEX SYMBOL...the Marilyn Monroe of the New Millenium. :o)
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I'm not much of a tv person other than the news and Colbert/Stewart/SNL/60 minutes (wish I had more time for Maddow) so I hope the report that he's going on Colbert is true.
ReplyDeleteI'm patiently waiting for my copy of the book to arrive this afternoon. Watched the CNN interview and cringed at the ridiculous squabble over Morgan putting words in Joe's mouth. I agree with Joe that NE publishing only the sordid bits ahead of time tainted the coverage. If only the next interviews could move past the sensational and get into substance. However, I thought it was incredibly disingenuous of Joe to complain about NE "stealing the book" and publishing snippets ahead of the actual release. Really? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, after Joe sent out the entire manuscript of "Blind Allegiance." Otherwise, he came off well, but that whine was completely hypocritical.
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I think Joe did fairly well and didn't get his spine up despite the badgering (there's that 'still spine' again!) It was just so obvious that Piers hadn't read a frickin chapter of the book himself and disappointing that all he cared about was that Joe had lived next door to the Palins and that he had written about sex, drugs and possible bulimia. That all just points to her hypocrisy. Nevermind all the stuff that truly points to her character and how it would be so dangerous for America should she gain higher office.
ReplyDeleteIt will definitely be interesting to see him on Chris Matthews. Matthews has certainly taken his own hits by the koolaid crowd, so his handling of this will be tricky. He's always somewhat belligerent even though he has mellowed some since around the time Russert died.
Speaking of that, could you imagine what a treat it would have been seeing Sarah Heath interviewed on Russert? Talk about a shellacking!
@ 7:19 #3:
ReplyDeleteRight ON!
As we in Alaska know, there are many big turds in the little bowl communities up here.
The Palin klan is living proof, with Chuck H. leading the way.
No wonder Sarah is such a pathetic mother. Look at Sally.
No excuse, though.
Anonymouses at 7:41 AM, 8:29 AM, and 8:38 AM, did you notice who the author was of the piece in "The Australian"?
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Our old friend Andrew Sullivan. Nice to see his point of view is worldwide.
At least I'm ASSUMING it's him. I couldn't find a print of this article on his Daily Beast blog.
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Speaking of Andrew Sullivan, he's pretty incensed about Howard Kurtz and others who've panned "The Rogue" presumably without reading it (to be charitable about their motives). Perhaps they were just repeating the "orders from headquarters" meme to trash the book.
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/09/unattributed-crap.html
Just finished the book. Excellent read!!
ReplyDeleteHi Sarah, how's that narcissistic, delusional nutsy thing working our for ya? Also, too.
When the subject of an investigation and book lives a tabloid life, how else would a book about that person/family read? Think of the old saying, "you can't make a silk purse out of a cow's ear." It is what it is, and the Palins are the personification of living a tabloid life.
ReplyDeleteLoving the book. Going to lose time working today.
ReplyDeleteSo right about the Piers Morgan connection to the Murdoch/News of the World scandal, Gryphen. Why is it a surprise to us that he, and CNN (sellout news outlet, par excellence) would push back on JM? Sarah is their gravy train and they are going to protect that 'til the end.
ReplyDeleteI am not nationalistic in the slightest, but is this guy even an American at this point in time? Why do we have a British TV personality on such a prominent US-based CNN program, anyway? I do like CNN international when I am on the road overseas, it's far better, but why did they bring Morgan in when Larry retired? Shouldn't he be on one of CNN's international shows?
I found myself annoyed that he and that goofy Quentin Crisp would be consulted on our political events recently, as well. It just seemed inappropriate that they were put on the same level as the American pundits (not that I have any respect for them, but at least they are commentating from the "inside", in that context).
I realize TV news talking heads cover the US over in the UK, but they should be covering us FROM the UK, imo.
Just because Morgan speaks English doesn't qualify him to preside over the old Larry King time slot! All very weird. I don't trust him in the slightest.
I am in the middle of chapter 6 and am so enraged by the behavior of the Palins that I had to come here to regain sanity and strength enough to read on. She is just a symptom of a larger epidemic of greed and disdain for the diminishing number of REAL Americans undazzled by wealth and celebrity.
ReplyDeleteI've always felt Palins were lucky Natl Enq didn't move next door.
ReplyDeleteJust did my $2+ for tuesday. Thanks, Gryphen for all your hard work.
physicsmom, I chuckled when I read your pot/kettle metaphor about Joe.
ReplyDeleteI used the very same terms in a comment on Joe's blog this summer after he chastised some of his posters.
Joe's response to me was that it was his stove. Priceless.
Not getting much else done today,
ReplyDeletehooked by the book.
I had ordered this book and after reading some reviews was not looking forward to reading it - sleazy gossip not really being my thing. It arrived on my Kindle, and I thought - OK I'll read a few pages - and several hours later I was still reading. (I'm in Europe BTW, so have a headstart)
ReplyDeleteI'm beginning to wonder if any of the reviewers have actually read the book!
The salacious bits are few and far between. That most reviewers choose to ignore the very chilling dominionist aspects of the Sarah phenomenon is rather frightening. It makes you wonder if at least one of the seven mountains has already been scaled.
This is for Track and Bristol:
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Just wish someone in that "strong" family cared enough to protect those poor children throughout the years.
9:45am
ReplyDeleteI found myself annoyed that he and that goofy Quentin Crisp would be consulted on our political events recently, as well.
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I'm not sure who you're talking about, but Quentin Crisp was a courageous, talented man who has been dead for some time.
The Awl in a review of The Rogue posts an article wherein it claims Palin did not apply for a commercial fishing license for at least half of the years she claimed she was fishing:
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MicMac
Gave up on CNN when they 'wondered aloud' whether there was any truth to the birther rumors concerning the President. Noticed ABC and CBS local newscasts doing the same and also 'wondering why he wouldn't just submit his birth certificate and get it over with'. ???? No one bothered to check that he had done that long before. Blitzer confirmed any doubts about where CNN lives when he dubbed the GOP/TP as their partners. I watched the interview only because it featured Mr McGinniss and all it did was reconfirm my opinion that CNN is Faux lite. Two perfectly good tv jobs that could have been given to out-of-work Americans was handed to an out-of-gas Brit graduate of the Murdoch school of right-wing dogma.
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU JOE! AND THANK YOU GRYPH :-)
ReplyDeleteThis one of John Stein's daughter in laws: I remember all that mayoral campaign, Palin-BS like it was yesterday. ALL TRUE!
John Stein & Karen Marie (RIP) are good people: The Paylins are NOT good people. I guess SHIT DOES floats to the top!
SHAME on McCain! I am glad John Stein's voice has reached a much larger audience through Joe's book!
"Yet, what many have failed to understand is Sarah Palin is dangerous to our civil, political discourse."
ReplyDeleteI think she has already done an enormous amount of damage to our political discourse. She has made it permissible to say some of the most vile things anyone can possibly imagine. She made it permissible not to negotiate ever. This may eventually go away but I think we will have a very long haul getting this out of our system
hudson - Bingo! Well said.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone ever wonder why the ‘Left MSM’ is pushing back so hard on this book? My guess is they want BUBB (bballer – you betcha) to enter the presidential race.
ReplyDeleteJust a thought.
I must apologize. I wrote an earlier post about Piers Morgan's Twitter account being locked, I just checked it now and it's back to normal. Have no idea what happened there.
ReplyDeletePeople the reviews on Amazon are starting to come in. Head on over there with your input and don't forget to write your own review as soon as you are finished reading the book. Can't wait for my copy to arrive!
ReplyDeleteJust finished the rogue by Joe. A very good read. Lots of thoughts about everything. Horribly dysfunctional family. Drugs, drug personalities on top of that. Sarah's soul is so empty and hollow, all she has is the painted public face. No, I do not feel sympathy for her.
ReplyDeleteSarah needs to be institutionalized I think and Todd needs anger management bigtime.
Also read Levi's book, and as someone coming from a hunting family, I think he tried to give a lot of background on who he is, but his book is very poorly written, especially the latter part. I would like to hear more about his family and his Mom,as Sadie was going to tell us about her problems.
He may not be telling everything about the Palins, but I think he tried to get his story out there. He reminded me of Alaska and what it really is more than anything Palins reality show could have done. I had an aquaintenance whose father was a Park ranger in Alaska and who spent a few weeks each year back with Native friends. His stories line up with Levi's about what Alaska is--a beautiful, wild frontier that most of us will never experience. This was all back in the 70s when the pipeline was being built.
I think Levi needs to stay out of the Palin cesspool, try to spend more time with his son away from them, and just go on with his life.
I recommend both books. I am also going to to get Joe's other book about Alaska.
Piers was just being himself- and Joe handled it well without getting too defensive.
ReplyDeletePiers did hit on the one thing that takes away from the book- which is Joe's next door visit.
Hard to not see that as a little stalkerish.
As long as Joe can get past that part of the story- he's in good shape.
But it is about making money- and Joe has woven the fabric of the media right into this little story. Touche' !
Correction: Anon 10:52am
ReplyDeleteBUBB (bballer – you betcha)
Should read:
BBUB - (b.baller - u betcha)
Isn't it funny how reviews from Australia and Canada revel in what the book reveals and don't try to 'shoot the messenger'. Possibly, the media in this country might want to take a few moments to examine their proclivity for dollars and hits vs. journalism.
ReplyDeleteThe question they should be asking is how did this women get so close to the White House?
anon @ 10:52 am sez:
ReplyDelete"Does anyone ever wonder why the ‘Left MSM’ is pushing back so hard on this book?"
they're pushing back on the book because everything that joe wrote IS WHAT THE MEDIA SHOULD HAVE TOLD US 3 YEARS AGO. joe's book makes them look bad. joe's book is a blatant example that they gave her a pass and were asleep at the wheel. they're defending themselves, not the quitter.
I think we can all agree that the MSM does have vested interests in protecting certain businesses and even certain politicos.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I fear that the answer for poor interviewing and reporting is much simpler and more frightening: laziness and incompetence.
It is obvious to most of us when an interviewer or reporter hasn't done his or her homework. They simply mouth the lines someone else has begun spinning. They grab headline, a sound bite, or an attitude and run with it believing that in doing so they are coming across as "with it," on top of things or competent.
For those who read and comprehend what they read, who question and research, those reporters and news "hosts" are clearly frauds.
I hope you do as I do - write emails or letters calling out the slackers, complaining about the inconsistencies and superficial redundancies.
However, some days I totally despair that it does little good. Networks, particularly cable news networks seem more focused on making sure they have controversy (which they often hype), photogenic front people (reporters, hosts and guests), and a lightness about topics.
I am so tired of so-called journalists prattling on about their own opinions rather than asking follow-up questions, doing their own research, and concentrating on presenting news as objectively and thoroughly as they can. Entertainment and sensationalist news has overtaken the market place.
Glad Joe was able to get through what many regard as bias grilling in one piece, with dignity and his message in tact. How many other competent journalists being interviewed by hacks can say the say, though?
Thank goodness of the integrity of many bloggers which helps offset the bias and lazy intellects of the networks.
On page 50 right now.
ReplyDeleteRemember when Sarah whipped everyone into a frenzy
about Joe being next door? She is truly a dangerous lunatic. Joe captures the lunacy of Little Red Frightening Hood trying to get the villagers to pitchfork
him.
Back to reading . . . .
I watched the Piers Morgan interview yesterday. It was more of a UK style interview where the counter view is put to the guest and there are follow up questions. It's just one particular more aggressive type of interview style.
ReplyDeleteJoe wasn't perhaps ready for that. It's not so common in the US. He should get ready though. He needs to think of a concise way to the answer the questions about him moving in next door to Palin and then move the interview on to the substance in the book.
If he gets a lot of push back from the right then this will affect the type of questions he is asked by the mainstream people. It's just the way it is. Strategise and plan Mr Mcginniss. :-)
-Nick G
I just saw Joe on Hardball.... He obviously didn't have enough time but got some real data out on the air.... The thing that bothers me is Mathews saying he believes that Palin will matter in the upcoming election, she will not run but try to play 'king maker' and run the country thru Perry if he is elected...
ReplyDeleteTHAT'S SCARY.......
So far I'm liking the book - although we've heard most of the stories before, there seems to be a little more depth and a little more in context with the character of "The Valley" and, of course, now we have Joe's word that each item has been verified by several sources.
ReplyDeleteI'm waiting to get to the part where he shows what really made Sarah quit - I'm betting it was something more deeply unethical than that which has already been described.
Amazing, also, too, how McLeod got most of the credit for ethics charges, as well as the brunt of vilification, when Zane Henning filed three of the ethics charges that stuck.
I didn't like how he made Jay Cross sound like a hick - I've known the Crosses for many years and I don't think he sounds like that; characterizing Jay as having a good sense of propriety and a heart of gold is accurate, though.
PS - I donated to your Tuesday Moneybomb, too, Gryph, because I so appreciate all the work you've done all these years. Thanks, again, for your persistence.
ReplyDeleteHope others join in the Tuesday Moneybomb!
As a journalist, Sarah's nickname could have been: Big Baller, Shot Caller
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ReplyDeleteI fully agree with you.
Just watched Levi on Dr. Phil..holy shit bat man, I was shocked at how great he did, he came across as a very caring mature adult. Mercede and Tank were also on..Tank said Sarah does tell him what to do. I came away feeling so bad for Levi and Mercede..it's just sad!
ReplyDeleteWhat 1:17 PM said!
ReplyDeleteI just reviewed the book on Amazon - gave it five stars. If you want to read and vote on my review - which would be good because I'll probably get a lot of "negs" from Palin-fans, look at the "Five Stars" and "Jill Meyer". That's me!
ReplyDeleteI watched P Morgan interview Joe, and it was blatently obvious he was stuck on stupid. Joe did hold his own, but Piers comes off as a jerk. I've sworn off CNN, they're morphing into "Fox News Lite", and my opinion wasn't changed by watching this.
ReplyDeleteI pitched in, wish it could be more, Can't thank you enough, but I try my best to pass the link to your blog around as much as I can.
I watched Dr Phil and I felt so bad for Sadie. She seemed so disheatened but willing to go the distance to defend her brother and their family. I wish Levi took your advice early on. Hunting and Hockey are admirable pass times, but honestly, after being screwed over by Sarah and Bristol, I wish he'd ignore the stupid agreement he signed and, at the very least, Call Bristol out on her allegations of him being a "gnat" and implying date rape.
I got Joe's book at midnight, and read through the entire book in one sitting. I read "going to extremes", and "fatal vision" and was blown away. He knows his craft, and delivers the goods like no one else can.
This book is a masterpiece written in a way that just takes you in and immerses you into the madness Palin has swirling around her. I expected it to be good, but being saturated with all things palin, I thought there wouldn't be much thats new. Boy, was I wrong. I'm surprised at the new nuances and facts he reveals.
I'll be sure to read it again and share it on kindle until my hard copy arrives.
I don't see a problem with Joe's decision to rent the house, or how it makes any difference whatsoever on the outcome of the book.
ReplyDeleteWhat it did was give Sarah the opportunity to play victim, to smear Joe's reputation and to add "suspense" to he unreal reality show. From what I can tell, there's one small window, and if Joe's intentions were untoward, he'd have to be on the peak of his roof to look in. I guess Sarah never heard of "shades" "curtains" "blinds" or "window treatment".
So Todd and his buddies built a privacy fence, and she hails it as an example of what should be done along the border.
She's all about freedoms, except when it comes to renting a house. He didn't break any laws, and in the end, it showed the true Sarah's vindictiveness and obsession with all things nafariously sexual in nature.
I hope he gets interviewed by someone like Charlie Rose, he's a seasoned commenter who does his work, reads the book, and calmly interacts with his guests. Even Oprah knew her stuff and did great interviews. Barbara Walters flip flops too much, but I can't wait to watch Lizzy Hasslebeck's bot head explode.
so the bots think breitbart/palin/bannon have something big -- a "game changer" -- that may have something to do with mcginnis. course they called the movie a game changer and i don't think any sane person thinks that, but . . . will be interested to see what bombshell they think they have, and how they will drop it...
ReplyDeleteI've read about half the book and it has been hard to put down.
ReplyDeleteIt's extremely well written.
What strikes me the most is not the already revealed so-called shocking items, but the continuous narrative that reveals the character of Sarah and Todd. Nearly every sentence contains a small brick or some mortar that builds a wall of shame. They are truly despicable people.
Gotta put in a word of thanks to John "The Senator" McCain for allowing this wretch to be foisted on America.