After dismissing a couple of requests for an interview on the Joe McGinniss e-mail kerfuffle I am about to grant an interview with somebody who does NOT have an agenda to protect Sarah Palin while at the same time destroying Joe's credibility.
Hopefully that will be made available sometime next week, and will clear up a number of misconceptions.
Update: I thought this would be a good place to insert Tina Dupuy's excellent review of Joe's book:
The book does illustrate how she rose to fame. It demystifies why Sarah does the things she does (spoiler alert: she’s a narcissist).
I compiled the list of Sarah Palin’s media feuds, mostly because it’s hilarious. What I’ve observed about her is she never takes the proverbial high road. So of course she’s threatening to sue McGinniss’ publisher. The greatest defense against slander is the truth. And truth is something Palin has feuded with more than anything else.
The Rogue paints a more complete picture of Sarah than has been written before. It’s a quick read. It’s also a sincere love letter to the state of Alaska. There are things that are interesting if we needed to find something politically damaging to her (we don’t). For example, she raised taxes when she was mayor of Wasilla. Sales taxes even. She signed off on a half cent sales tax increase to pay for a stadium in Wasilla. I talked to a colleague of one of the lawyers who vetted Palin for the ’08 election (check out that unnamed source) and he said Palin was brought on because she was thought to be a moderate. She had worked with both Republican and Democrats in her state and in her city to get things done. And then she became the campaign Kraken with a quarter million dollar wardrobe accusing her “enemy” of pallin’ around with terrorists.
What’s interesting about Joe’s book is that he really illustrates just how much of a mirage Palin has been to her supporters. Her perfect appearance on the horizon is diminished with each step closer to her. Which is why Republicans are not clamoring for her to run for president. The right can no longer dismiss all criticism of Palin as just liberals who hate her for not aborting her Down Syndrome child. No, now the right suspects she's incompetent too. They now agree with us. As they say in the south, she ain’t right. And instead of being a divisive figure – she’s bringing left, right and in betweens together in their mutual disdain for her. Poetic.
Now THAT is a review from a journalist who actually read the damn book!
Gee I wonder if Tina now has second thoughts about her out of hand dismissal of babygate?
Crooks and Liars, right place to talk of Sarah Palin, has it's review of Joe's book...enjoy!
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This is great news! US media behaved shamefully towards Mr McGinniss.
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ReplyDeleteAll my absence means is that I have been stuck working in anchorage all week when I had only expected half a day. I'm too old for this!
I have heard both of Sarah's speeches are getting hacked to bits, constantly being altered. Sarah wants to bring up Brad's reward in the "not running" speech; she wants to have her eyes fill up with tears and emotionally crow "there are even people trying to make money off my special needs baby" but of course her handlers don't want her to bring it up at all because it would only expose the seriousness of the pregnancy to a wider audience. She's going for the C4P jugular-- "as a mother, I cannot continue to see my children attacked".
Same old story, different day.
-MeAgain
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Wow good interview.
ReplyDeleteI read Joe McGinniss’ The Rogue: Searching for the Real Sarah Palin. I read the whole thing. Cover to cover. It was not sensational. It was not tabloid-esque. It was not trash. It was what the cover claimed – the search for the real Sarah Palin.
ReplyDeleteShe has this thing with telling the truth – she doesn’t do it. Nearly ever. She just, as she says about others “makes stuff up.” This personality trait has been documented over and over again in the press. Perhaps this is why Palin reflexively attacks - not the message or the messenger – but the entire medium and whole idea of journalism and mass communication...often on national television.
So it’s a legitimate question: who is this woman?
Thanks to a sadistic editor from The Atlantic (she’ll say I volunteered, which is exactly what a sadist would say), I watched the entire two-hour misnomer Palin infomercial, The Undefeated at RightOnline this year. That was not the real Sarah Palin. That was 120-minutes of dog whistles and patriotic stock footage which tens of people ending up paying to see in the theater.
I don’t understand the immediate dismissal of McGinniss’ book by the left. It’s weird. Keith Olbermann decided to side with Palin’s opinion of the tome on Real Time with Bill Maher on Friday. “But most of the stuff in there, why is it relevant, what’s the point of it, and how well-sourced is it?” asked the host of Countdown.
First off: anonymous sources, while they may not be the most optimal way to write a book, are very common. Journalists often “protect their sources,” some have even gone to jail for it. And for someone who’s as vengeful and vindictive as Sarah Palin, it’s more than understandable people wouldn’t want their names used. Alaska is a small state (as far as people go). Also, the entire book is not anonymous. Plenty of people risked the wrath of Sarah to dish about her to McGinniss.
The filmmaker of Sarah Palin – You Betcha, Nick Broomfield, came across the same fear of retribution if anyone they interviewed said anything negative about the Palins. So asking how well-sourced a book about a bully is, candidly, siding with the bully.
The only new and notable thing in Rogue was Sarah hooking up with Glen Rice when she was in college and a short anecdote about her doing cocaine. Two things that make her seem much more appealing and credible than anything she’s ever said publicly or had ghostwritten about herself.
Everything else in the book is corroborated by other reports, witnesses and sources. There are plenty of people who have said she’s not really into mothering. The book Game Change talked about her temper and her odd dietary choices (caffeine and little food). She’s not an intellectual, as evidenced by…EVERYTHING that’s ever tumbled out of her mouth. McGinniss’ book mentions her reading People magazine. It answers the question: “What do you read?” with the real answer, “Nothing.” She also billed the state for staying in her own home, was taken to task for abuse of power and lying etc. These are not new revelations.
The book does illustrate how she rose to fame. It demystifies why Sarah does the things she does (spoiler alert: she’s a narcissist).
I compiled the list of Sarah Palin’s media feuds, mostly because it’s hilarious. What I’ve observed about her is she never takes the proverbial high road. So of course she’s threatening to sue McGinniss’ publisher. The greatest defense against slander is the truth. And truth is something Palin has feuded with more than anything else.
The Rogue paints a more complete picture of Sarah than has been written before. It’s a quick read. It’s also a sincere love letter to the state of Alaska. There are things...
http://crooksandliars.com/tina-dupuy/thoughts-mcginniss-sarah-palin-book-rog
Tina Dupuy weighs in on The Rogue. Finally some FACTS from the Left.
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...What’s interesting about Joe’s book is that he really illustrates just how much of a mirage Palin has been to her supporters. Her perfect appearance on the horizon is diminished with each step closer to her. Which is why Republicans are not clamoring for her to run for president. The right can no longer dismiss all criticism of Palin as just liberals who hate her for not aborting her Down Syndrome child. No, now the right suspects she's incompetent too. They now agree with us. As they say in the south, she ain’t right. And instead of being a divisive figure – she’s bringing left, right and in betweens together in their mutual disdain for her. Poetic.
The Rogue in short tells this truth: Alaskans feel duped. They’re pissed. They’re talking. And Joe was taking notes.
His conclusion, what he’s said in the lead up to the book being released is that Palin is a phony. Something Alaskan knew before the rest of the nation had to ever think about pit bulls in lipstick.
The hostility to McGinniss’ book from the left, I do not understand. Sorry guys, read the book and not just the NYT review.
http://crooksandliars.com/tina-dupuy/thoughts-mcginniss-sarah-palin-book-rog
this interview is the reason I love being Canadian, awesome intelligent newscasters bringing us the facts night after night, so much better than the yelling and sensationalized 'newscasts' in the US
ReplyDeleteQuestion:
ReplyDeleteWHAT did McCain know (re Palin) and WHEN did he know it?
Will Nicole and Steve tell us?
Hi Sarah, Welcome Back!
ReplyDeleteQuick question, Where's Trigs birth certificate?
Thanks for the Canadian CTV coverage. It was a good interview, wasn't it?
ReplyDeleteYes, we Canadians saw through her schtik from the get-go. We're still dumbfounded as to how this heartless and incompetent individual rose to such prominence in your country. Sad, really. But it looks like there may be some light at the end of the tunnel. Definitely a September to Remember!
Want to have some fun, go to gretawire, the loons over there are frothing at the bit.
ReplyDeleteImpressive interview -- US media should be shamed.
ReplyDeleteWe're not afraid of her up here. ;-)
ReplyDeleteHear, hear for the Canadians!!
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable that John McCain would do this to America, knowingly running with a mentally ill person on his ticket.
ReplyDeleteJohn may not have originally known Sarah Palin was disturbed, but it was eventually brought to his attention that she is mentally sick and not qualified but to John it was too late and he went for it anyway and he lost because Sarah was just a plain sick unfit mother and a two bit special needs self serving con artist.
I am reading Joe's book right now. I wasn't going to buy it because I figured that it wouldn't have too much new information. But, I have to say that I am shocked how our press has treated him so I went out and bought the book in support. Glad that I did, it's a great book. I may buy Dunne's book also, too even though it is older.
ReplyDeleteAnything to help support the truth. Go Joe (& I.M.)
Just watched the interview. Thought it went very well. You could tell though that Joe, having just spent the last week going through the idiot mill of U.S. media promotion tour, was a bit wary as to how questions were going to be framed to him.
ReplyDeleteI think the Dupuy review is better than the Canadian interview because it identifies the nature of the Palin beast rather than focusing on the tabloid stuff. I want to learn more about her lies in office than her poor mothering skills. I prefer to understand that she does not have a successful record as a mayor or governor than I relish learning about her sexual encounters as a young unmarried woman or her use of recreational drugs some time in the past.
ReplyDeleteAnd I think that until it is proven that Palin faked her pregnancy then I believe that particular story needs to simmer on the back burner lest it make the tome seem like a gossipy far fetched rag. Like it or not, people tend to roll their eyes at the idea (even for Palin) to have faked a pregnancy and by retelling the theory discredits the messenger.
Glad you will be interviewed!
ReplyDeleteJoe looks tired. I imagine it is grueling to do a book tour without private jets and security guards and such as you-know-who does it. Of course, he actually writes his books so there's that additional stress.
I wish our media would get over itself and do real journalistic work with higher ethics and more sensitive, intelligent hosts.
If I were younger, I would move to Canada. At least there people are polite and inquisitive in the highest sense.
Thanks for the links, and I look forward to reading your interview. I'm curious to read your views on the whole matter.
ReplyDeleteI thought it was a good interview, but not as good as advertised. I would call her neutral and objective. She was supportive of Joe's position/writing. Not Ed Schultz supportive of his friends. But sympathetic and supportive of Joe.
ReplyDeleteTHere is a way to interview and be neither supportive or sabotaging.
I don't know how much I care. I might be okay with her being supportive. I'll have to think about it. I'm glad she wasn't antagonistic like Olberman! I just don't think it was completely objective.
Lucy
Just had a funny thought...the Palinbots gather to erupt as one directing vile emails and threats to anyone who says anything slightly derogatory about their Sarah. They must be going nuts now...their targets now numerous, everywhere, even all over the world, coming out of the woodwork.
ReplyDeleteGee, they can't kill 'em all, or even threaten them all. They've tried faithfully to bottle and contain any perceived threat to their queen; oh no, The bottle exploded! Shards falling everywhere, secrets escaping right and left. What to do, what to do. Too late for damage control. Will they still follow her like lemmings, or is a tiny, little light flickering on in some of their heads: OMG she's a fraud!
A lie's a lie. yes there may be some truth to Joe's book, but there are definitive and obvious lies.
ReplyDeleteI watched them both and found them enjoyable. You put in over 3 years doing research and helping others take this (insert whatever here,there are so many)person down and I thank you. I hope you don't lose out or get marginalized as she goes down. When she starts the tailspin it will happen fast,then she will be nothing but a footnote.
ReplyDeleteI use tailspin as I am thinking of a Doung and the Slugs song verse,"it's over, Kaput,except for the tailspin;save your dialouge for the old men in the pool room" from the son "TOO BAD". It should be her theme song now.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzocrN1zUE8&feature=player_detailpage
Gryphen,
ReplyDeleteIn respect to the pregnancy issue:
1. are there pictures of Bristol during the winter months of 08?
2. Does DWTS make contestants do a physical? Would Bristol have to disclose any serious illnesses? Wouldn't having Mono for those 4 or 5 months in 08 when she changed schools and lived away from the Palin's home need to be disclosed?
3. I think the reason why Palin didn't take any maternity time was if she was found out, she wouldn't have committed a crime against the State for falsifying employment records.
4. Did Palin use her insurance to pay for the pre-natal care or the delivery of the baby? How was the birth paid for. If insurance did pay, and it came out Trig wasn't hers, she would have committed insurance fraud. I think I heard or read somewhere that she paid for the delivery with cash and didn't file her insurance.
So she is evil, that is for sure. But smart enough to keep herself out of jail should her plan fail. Just looking for the evidence or lack there of, that Sarah gave birth to Trig isn't enough. There are other ways of proving her a fraud...lets start thinking out of the vagina...
Hi Gryphen! As a Canadian, I commend Beverly Thomson for a very frank and candid interview with Mr. McGinniss. It was no holds barred and blunt,the right questions were asked. Canadian journalism is quite different than their American counterparts, not so tabloidy. Hopefully, it will make many more people aware of $arah and her twisted and distorted views and her quite apparent lack of gravitas. $arah's facade is crumbling very fast; she will crack very sooon...
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ReplyDeleteI just finished Levi Johnston's book, "Deer in the Headlights: My Life in Sarah Palin's Crosshairs". I was truly surprised. It was a very good read and I'm recommending it to my spouse. I'm recommending it to you too (but anti-hunting folks might not appreciate quite as much).
I purchased the book at Anchorage's Barnes & Noble a few days ago. When you first enter the store, McGinniss' book greats you in a sea of red. But, I already read that one. I expected Levi's book to be next to McGinniss' but not so I had to search it out (There's a pile of them on the customer service counter mid-store.) I hid the jacket of the book as I waited in the check out line because of, you know, the embarrassment. The checkout person asked if I wanted Levi to sign it as he'd be in the store in a few days for a book signing. Slightly amused, I declined the offer. Thankfully she put the book in a bag without asking.
Then I read it. My point is, it's a good book. You don't need to be embarrassed to buy it like I was. Unlike other Sarah Palin books I've read, this one makes you feel like you're sitting right there in her Lake Lucille house, experiencing all that dysfunction in person. She's some piece of work. Uses her kids to a degree I wouldn't have thought possible. Despicable.
I have a rare day off, combined with a rare mildly sunny day. I'm going to lounge on the deck with my book and get a few more chapters in today.
ReplyDeleteHave you been contacted yet by "Ms. I'm Too Busy This Week/Month To Email Gryphen But I Have Plenty Of Time To Read Various Forums And To Write Long Teasing Posts"?
ReplyDeleteTHIS is where her fall began in earnest:
ReplyDeletePalin's use of 'blood libel' and Reagan comment in statement on Tucson shooting
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2011/01/palins_use_of_blood_libel_and.html
I don't know why the US Press is so cowed. I know it's great to get the scoops but how about some integrity? Journalists are supposed to be annoying, they're supposed to ask irritating questions of the elites and the establishment and yes, even the President. We can respect each other and public servants and what they do - but the Press is supposed to bring the truth to the people.
ReplyDeleteThe Sarah Palin issue has shown the US Press to be cowardly poseurs too scared of being labelled "liberal" to do their jobs. This woman was never vetted properly by the McCain team and the media was shut out - there should have been howls of outrage from Editorial Pages all across the country in 2008.
The US dodged a bullet alright - but only because millions of Americans said thanks but no thanks to McCain and Palin!
Everything Palin says is projection or untruth - so if she says that the media attacked her unfairly, the opposite is true. She was unprepared and blamed everyone else who had the gall to point that out. Palin should never been allowed to stay on the ticket let alone be given the amount of air time she's had over these 3 years.
I got to thinking about Babygate, and how Joe left out the Tale of Two Babies, thinking it was too much, and just stuck with the alleged Pregnancy Hoax.
ReplyDeleteMy husband doesn't like SP, but considers this all byzantine intrigue about someone who's irrelevant and he doesn't care. But when I showed him the pictures of the two babies, he is different. He thinks it's curious and unexplainable.
My daughter came home and I started saying something about Babygate and the two babies, and she started to roll her eyes. Her dad stepped in said "Hey, she's even got me believing the two babies."
I think the Tale of Two Babies is easier to believe than the Tale of a Pregnancy Hoax. There is more concrete,hard-to-refute evidence for the Two Babies story.
We all latched on to the Pregnancy, probably because it came first. But I wonder if the Tale of Two Babies isn't more convincing?
Just wondering. I suppose she could come up with some humanitarian excuse about protecting her child. But how would she explain the picture of a very young Levi at hte hospital. and and and...
Maybe next should be a complete book not about the pregnancy, but all the pictures of the baby after his birth, that make no sense.
Lucy
Republicans start to pour cold water over Sarah Palin White House run
ReplyDeleteGrowing list of conservative activists and Tea Party figures dismiss idea of former Alaska governor running for nomination
For months former Alaska governor Sarah Palin has played a "will she, won't she" game over a potential run for the Republican presidential nomination and the right to battle President Barack Obama for the White House.
But, in a strong sign that a run is increasingly unlikely, a growing chorus of Republican figures have now dismissed the idea or openly spoken out against it.
The development reveals a chasm between Palin and many senior figures in the party leadership. But, more worryingly for her supporters, conservative activists and Tea Party figures have also started to turn against Palin running for the nomination.
Criticisms have become much more acute since Palin recently gave heavily hyped speeches in Iowa and New Hampshire, but failed to declare if she was running or not. "There is a difference between talking about running and running. She did not announce, and that sends a strong signal that she is not running," said Scott Reed, a top Republican political consultant and former campaign manager for Bob Dole in his 1996 White House bid.
Reed said that Palin seemed content to give passionate speeches to her fan base but had failed to come up with any concrete policies or set up a viable ground organisation for a future campaign.
"She has not fleshed out her policy positions. She has not set people up in the early states. That suggests she is not serious," Reed said.
That chimes with a growing list of senior Republican party figures who have poured cold water on the idea of a Palin run. South Carolina senator Jim DeMint, one of the most powerful figures in the party and a Tea Party stalwart, has openly dismissed the idea of Palin becoming a late entrant to an already hotly contested race. "It doesn't appear that she is going to run," he told CBS News.
Other party operatives have been even more critical. Karl Rove, the Republicans' campaign guru during the Bush years, said Palin might be too "thin-skinned" to survive a campaign. Other popular right wing media figures have gone much further. Firebrand author Ann Coulter even called her "the Obama of the Tea Party" in a reference to the fanaticism of her supporters. "We used to all love Sarah Palin … for her enemies. I'm starting to dislike her because of her fans," Coulter said on Fox News.
Similar sentiments have been voiced by right-wing talk host Laura Ingraham and highly influential conservative Republican blogger Erick Erickson. Erickson was particularly brutal in his attack on Palin's supporters.
"I decided Sarah Palin was not going to run and I moved on … unfortunately as I found out, and as others are starting to find out, moving on from Sarah Palin is like leaving Scientology," he said, before complaining about the numerous online attacks he had received from Palin supporters.
It is a remarkable turnaround for Palin. Ever since John McCain tapped her as his running mate in the 2008 election she has been an electrifying figure for American conservatives. She has long been a darling of Tea Party activists who often assumed she would make a bid for the nomination. But not any longer....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/14/sarah-palin-republicans-white-house
Republicans start to pour cold water over Sarah Palin White House run
ReplyDeleteGrowing list of conservative activists and Tea Party figures dismiss idea of former Alaska governor running for nomination
For months former Alaska governor Sarah Palin has played a "will she, won't she" game over a potential run for the Republican presidential nomination and the right to battle President Barack Obama for the White House.
But, in a strong sign that a run is increasingly unlikely, a growing chorus of Republican figures have now dismissed the idea or openly spoken out against it.
The development reveals a chasm between Palin and many senior figures in the party leadership. But, more worryingly for her supporters, conservative activists and Tea Party figures have also started to turn against Palin running for the nomination.
Criticisms have become much more acute since Palin recently gave heavily hyped speeches in Iowa and New Hampshire, but failed to declare if she was running or not. "There is a difference between talking about running and running. She did not announce, and that sends a strong signal that she is not running," said Scott Reed, a top Republican political consultant and former campaign manager for Bob Dole in his 1996 White House bid.
Reed said that Palin seemed content to give passionate speeches to her fan base but had failed to come up with any concrete policies or set up a viable ground organisation for a future campaign.
"She has not fleshed out her policy positions. She has not set people up in the early states. That suggests she is not serious," Reed said.
That chimes with a growing list of senior Republican party figures who have poured cold water on the idea of a Palin run. South Carolina senator Jim DeMint, one of the most powerful figures in the party and a Tea Party stalwart, has openly dismissed the idea of Palin becoming a late entrant to an already hotly contested race. "It doesn't appear that she is going to run," he told CBS News.
Other party operatives have been even more critical. Karl Rove, the Republicans' campaign guru during the Bush years, said Palin might be too "thin-skinned" to survive a campaign. Other popular right wing media figures have gone much further. Firebrand author Ann Coulter even called her "the Obama of the Tea Party" in a reference to the fanaticism of her supporters. "We used to all love Sarah Palin … for her enemies. I'm starting to dislike her because of her fans," Coulter said on Fox News.
Similar sentiments have been voiced by right-wing talk host Laura Ingraham and highly influential conservative Republican blogger Erick Erickson. Erickson was particularly brutal in his attack on Palin's supporters.
"I decided Sarah Palin was not going to run and I moved on … unfortunately as I found out, and as others are starting to find out, moving on from Sarah Palin is like leaving Scientology," he said, before complaining about the numerous online attacks he had received from Palin supporters.
It is a remarkable turnaround for Palin. Ever since John McCain tapped her as his running mate in the 2008 election she has been an electrifying figure for American conservatives. She has long been a darling of Tea Party activists who often assumed she would make a bid for the nomination. But not any longer....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/14/sarah-palin-republicans-white-house
HAH!!!
ReplyDeleteAccording to Nielsen BookScan, McGinniss moved 6,000 copies in the first week.
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ReplyDelete"A lie's a lie. yes there may be some truth to Joe's book, but there are definitive and obvious lies."
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Could you be more specific, please. We keep hearing that refrain over & over but no one ever says what those lies are. Perhaps you could compile a list for us.
10:12 AM
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So, she's going to get all teary, huh? "As a mother, I cannot continue to see my children attacked?"
Look in the MIRROR, You Heinous. Just whose fault is this, hmmmmmm? We aren't attacking Trig, we are attacking YOU for the lying, cheating, grifting fraud you ARE!
Did you expect full adulation, Queenie? At the name of Sarah, every knee should bow? That's JESUS, honey, JESUS! Not YOU!
Oh, PLEASE cry! BIG tears! Make that mouth quiver GOOD and hard, shake that voice, ball your fists, stomp your feet. How UTTERLY presidential!
You asked for it, you know. You wanted to play with the big boys? Naw, you just wanted the money and attention. We're breathing down your neck, honey. ENJOY!
By the way, when they say in the South, "She ain't right" it doesn't merely mean she's incorrect. It means she isn't right in the head.
ReplyDeleteMalheureusement (unfortunately) the people who hand over their hard earned cash to the Great SarahPac Charade need to see interviews like this.
ReplyDeleteBut they have their fingers in their ears going "Na, na, na, na, I'm not listening, I'm not listening."
Ok whatever. Should make them all the more angry when they do figure it oot.
The Greeks have a saying--a rather harsh one: "If you're stupid enough to get ripped off continually, you deserve it."
A nod to P.T. Barnum today
~Canuck~
I have never heard one person, liberal or not, say that they hated Sarah Palin for giving birth to a Downs baby. She started that myth, and kept it going. Just because we support the RIGHT to a safe abortion does not mean we've ever had one, nor want to. Nor that we think it is the best choice. We, unlike, the right, think the decision belongs to the woman and the doctor. Period. The conservatives are masters of manipulation, and they thought they found their perfect spokesmodel in Wasilla. She should have kept her mouth shut.
ReplyDeleteI am a first-generation, first born American citizen. born in Minnesota of Canadian parents.
ReplyDeleteThat said, in Canada I am also considered a citizen, as well as United Empire Loyalist.
I am very proud of my Canadian Loyalist heritage.
I wish I could go back.
I remember one of the early posts on IM or one of the AK blogs when a fellow told about having a conversation with Curtis Menard, Jr. The man had asked Curtis about Sarah and reportedly Curtis has said the woman who pure evil. The man regretted not asking for details because in a few months Curtis had his plane accident.
ReplyDeleteEXCELLENT interview.
ReplyDeleteHow novel. An interviewer who can read a book and ask intelligent questions.
I'm beginning to see it in a different light -- that possibly the 'left' media is looking to the 'right' to take the lead in that you don't have to convince the left this woman is a stunned whacko.
ReplyDeleteIf the 'left media' does all the pointing out of it - all the rethugs do is then prop her up and say she's a victim. They won't give a damm that the truth is being spoken - they'll just trash the 'left' for going after her. Standard operation for the right.
If the 'right' gets the message out there, there is not the room that she can call out 'victim' in that it's 'her own' calling her out.
During the Monica Lewinsky affair (ancient history by now) Hillary Clinton wagged a finger at the media, chiding them about a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (1998). Maybe she was right, and we should have listened to her.
ReplyDeleteI was amazed at the terrible reception that Joe's book got, not to mention the (lame) threat of a lawsuit. There have been other books, and the same material has appeared in the National Enquirer. No lawsuits. Also, not much publicity. This time, it's different.
Some time ago, there was going to be a biography of Ronald Reagan on network TV, something that would show the real Reagan, warts and all. There was a huge outcry, and the biography was cancelled. Randi Rhodes explained that all it takes is for a few advertisers threatening to pull their millions of dollars of ads from the network to make a network cave into presssure. She said that the same threats applied to advertising on the major network and cable news shows. Let's be honest about Glenn Beck. He lost advertising. Money is power, and major media is part of the big corporate structure of power and influence.
It don't think that it takes too much to figure out what's behind this terrible attack on Joe. Powerful interests need Sarah Palin as their attack dog. Even if she does not run, she wants to influence politics, and much of the media is dumb enough to fall for her stunts. She does know how to get attention. If Joe's book is taken seriously, Palin loses her influence. Murdoch has already invested millions in her.
Foreign media can be influenced by Murdoch. He has influenced the elections in England. However, foreign media takes a much more objective look at our politics. They saw right through Bush at a time when no one in the US was allowed to criticize him (or risk being called a traitor). They knew that Palin was a laughing stock the moment that McCain picked her. H.L.Mencken say that you will never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people. Sarah Palin's stardom is an example of that.
@10:42 I'm old and I want to move to Canada. It's just a hop and a skip from my New England home. And my mom (aged 90) says "Get a place big enough for me too! Customs keeps stopping my pharmacy orders at the border."
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ReplyDeleteBy the way, when they say in the South, "She ain't right" it doesn't merely mean she's incorrect. It means she isn't right in the head.
11:45 AM
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And polite southerners say "bless her heart"
"Meaning God help that bitch, she ain't right in the head"
Translated to "Yankee"
It means that bitch is Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs"
:)
"she became the campaign Kraken..."
ReplyDeleteBest description ever of the ex-Governor.
@11:23,
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@11:23 "Mr./Ms.-I've-got-to-know-right-now-because-it's-vital"
ReplyDeleteWhy so impatient?
I love how DELICIOUSLY slow this is all unfolding? There's a lot of crazy to unbottle and deserves it's own cathartic fizz.
$arah should keep her panties on (see how i sexualized that).
Anon 10:45
ReplyDeleteI just don't think it was completely objective.
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Really - are you serious?
The interview was in Canada and just in case you might not realize -- Palin is not a part of the Canadian Political Arena up there. In Canada - she's a joke the the U.S. 'right' and MSM propped up and now doesn't know how to get rid of her.
SHE'S A U.S. FUCKING PROBLEM - NOT CANADIAN. Clearly the interviewer did her homework and read the book - something the U.S. MSM could learn from - and in the end, she doesn't give a flying crap about Palin.
Jut remember folks--fifteen years or so ago, the Patron Saint of All That's Irrational and her theocratic backers would have gotten away with this steamin' pile of Dominionist garbage through illusion and lies, with no way for the public to vet it even if they cared to. Thank whatever force is out there that we have an Internet, wide open access, people who are curious and can think for themselves, and our intrepid bloggers and authors. Stuff is spilling over from the 'Net, and the usually disinterested are actually starting to listen...in shock, but they're listening! (And I'm sending 'em here).
ReplyDeleteBristol Palin will rue the day she took on the 'gays'
ReplyDelete'It smells like the Tea Party still'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DkHhNxgsZo&feature
Anon @ 12:06pm--
ReplyDelete"Randi Rhodes explained that all it takes is for a few advertisers threatening to pull their millions of dollars of ads from the network to make a network cave into presssure. She said that the same threats applied to advertising on the major network and cable news shows."
X2. Randi has said this MANY times, which is why she refuses to sell out to TV.
Wow!!!!
ReplyDeleteThanks for this link. I was watching the whole show when you posted this and hadn't gotten to this part yet.
1) Beth READ the book. An interviewer who DID HER JOB.
2) She knows SArah is full of shit.
Thank you Beth and Canada!!
This is how intelligent people have discourse about the absurd ridiculousness of Palin's pregnancy and birth fairytale.
American MSM: Wake up and smell the coffee please. Time to go to work.
"She ain't right!" you got that right.
ReplyDelete"....she wants to have her eyes fill up with tears and emotionally crow "there are even people trying to make money off my special needs baby".... "
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to fake tears. She's going to have to think of something that would really make her sad, like, "It's over. What am I going to do now?".
She is Abby Normal.
ReplyDeleteThe entire Conservative Media machine can SUCK IT. Hannity, Rove, Coulter, Ingram, Limbaugh, Malkin - all of these people and more - backed Palin, courted her and treated her like she's a qualified candidate. Bollocks.
ReplyDeleteThey called us crazy, they implied we hated Trig (we don't - we just hate the way he's been used as a prop), that we hated America and every other manner of hideous slander on an entire group of people who didn't share their idiotic views.
And now some of them are back tracking. Well F@%K YOU to all of them. They helped create, support and push this nightmare of a woman on all of us. And not just Americans - the world too! This idiot is going to South Korea for heaven sake! Haven't they enough problems? What with sharing a border with North Korea??! She spoke in India - like they don't have enough issues already to deal with at home, they gotta deal with Screechy McMoron and her entourage of flying monkeys. And Todd. UGH!
Palin went to Haiti too! As if those poor people didn't suffer enough already. Geez.
Even Nicole Wallace and Steve Schmidt were trying to make false equivalencies like Obama was JUST as polarising as Palin. WHAT??! You mean the guy who's done every thing he could to compromise with the Republicans? Even as they disrespect him constantly and at every opportunity? Even as the Tea Party continue to taunt him? Yeah....it's the same thing. How ridiculous are these people?!
So....as I've said....F@%K each and every one of those Conservative Media, Tea Party and GOP Operatives who cheered Palin on. You can shove your regrets and revelations now where the sun don't shine. We always KNEW she was a fraud. Despite all the lies from Fox News etc.
And by the way guys - she's YOUR problem now. Don't be trying to pawn off your Kraken (well done on that one, Tina) to us Lefties and Liberals. We don't want her - never have! She's poison - and she's allll yours. Have fun with that.
"The hostility to McGinniss’ book from the left, I do not understand. Sorry guys, read the book and not just the NYT review."
ReplyDeleteThank you, Tina Dupuy!
" Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteThis is great news! US media behaved shamefully towards Mr McGinniss.
10:03 AM"
It ain't working on the sane people. We know a fraud when we seen one. Only the nutters (2%/population) see this as a major win. HAHAHAHA rotf
Delusionaut (Game of Life @1:15PM) appears to have missed it's hook-up with Hale_Bopp. It thinks it's sane. Poor soul.
ReplyDeleteI have rarely noticed Canadians and Australians weighing in on our U.S. issues like you have on this subject. And you are right -- what a nutty country we must be to have let this happen. I am ashamed that you -- and we -- have to address such a shameful set of issues.
ReplyDeleteAnd there is worse to come. Unless everyone follows the lead of our MSM and either denigrates or ignores McGinniss, Dunn, the documentary, and all the other info that points to the huge Palin Baby Hoax that symbolizes all the rest of it. They would like us to just forget it and move on.
What did McCain know and when did he know it? McCain would just love for that question to go meekly away. So would the MSM, for not investigating/covering it and their own dereliction of duty.
McGinniss is doing really good interviews. I can see that he is strategically right to say "I don't know" re the Palin Baby Hoax. But I just wish he would hold up the Mar 14 or Mar 28 photos of a way too flat-profile Palin -- way too flat to display a watermelon-sized belly or give birth 3 and 5 weeks later. Just look at those photos.
There is absolutely no question that Sarah is a sick, sick person, but what is sicker and far more evil than Sarah, is the way that money and corporations and INDIVIDUAL billionaires and religious extremists have all but gotten away with this entire fiasco.
ReplyDeleteShe was the willing vessel that sold her soul for the need her narcississtic nature demanded, but those mofuckers played it to the hilt, books, reality shows, cocooned interviews, remote studios, all of it shielded the public from knowing more about this dangerous woman.
She may have lay dormant, with the seeds of her insanity left parched, but then along came Bill Kristol and whatisname Paxton and Baby Graham and it was like dumping 'SuperGrow' on those seeds and creating a massively mutant form of what was once only a blip on the national screen.
Obviously, for Alaska, it wasn't that way, since they had already begun to recognize the horror of this woman and her family, but for us in the lower 48 that had NO CLUE it was like having ice cold water dumped on top of your head when she opened her mouth at the RNC convention. There, in front of that microphone, was borne one of the most despicable political creatures this country has ever had to suffer through.
The combination of the theocratic, narcissistic, grandiose, politically corrupt, attention starved, vindictive, pathologically lying, self serving qualities, packaged inside that winkin', flirtin', youbetcha mamagrizzlyin', gun totin', lip lickin', thigh strokin', special needs mama with the hot hubby and passel of kids, with the dazzlin' smile, just out of the bed messed up style, all contained in a teeny, weeny little woman with big titties, well damn, the 'perfect storm' arrived to bowl over the hungry, horny, old white boys, the lost souls, and those who were ripe for patriotic propaganda, delivered in hooker heels and short skirts. This was their 'dream cum true'.
That we came as close as we did to having them be successful sends absolute chills down my spine.
A Hamilton, Ontario television station just aired an interview with Joe McGinnis. It was pretty much standard fare with the emphasis on the more salacious revelations in The Rogue. Joe did very well and, by now, he is used to handling these superficial comments and questions. He was able to explain why he included the Rice hook-up and the oil barrel cocaine snorting - to point out the hypocrisy of Sarah Palin. Maybe because the station is close to the border and has a fair number of American viewers, that the level of professionalism was sadly lacking in this particular program. The pair of hosts were trying to be provocative; instead they came off as lightweights. Still, it does bring attention to the book.
ReplyDeleteThanks "MeAgain" for posting!
ReplyDeleteThe Canadian Press - ONLINE EDITION
ReplyDeleteMcGinniss says people quoted in Sarah Palin book have been threatened
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/world/breakingnews/mcginniss-says-people-quoted-in-sarah-palin-book-have-been-threatened--130812658.html
I wonder if Sarah will read the latest letter she got from "God" when she tells the WORLD that she is not running for POTUS because, well, you know the excuses. Whether or not she will cry... maybe Glenn Beck's "vapo rub" in the eyes trick will work for her too. That's one performance I don't want to miss. Of course, she could just announce on FB and Twitter....then (?) she will go away? Please?
ReplyDeleteGryphen, it would be really interesting to have a recap of the Menard issues and Sarah ... Anything new? why did Menard’s mother keep supporting Palin and does the Menard family admit Track is theirs? I find it so interesting Sarah was visited by Mr. Menard before he was killed in the plane crash. Something seemed strangely bizarre in their relationship from the get-go.
ReplyDeleteWe have seen the face of the anti-christ,, and palin is its name
ReplyDeleteInterview:
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely Fantastic!
Joe KEPT ON POINT and got exactly what needed to be said out.
Pathetic he had to go to a foreign country to get a fair shake.
Anonymous @ 10:46 am said...
ReplyDelete"A lie's a lie. yes there may be some truth to Joe's book, but there are definitive and obvious lies."
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And the truth is the truth. Lots & lots of truths in Joe's book. And the truths about Palin are NOT pretty.
Well, it's pretty horrific, pretty disgusting, pretty reprehensible - how such an imbicile as Palin used and abused her few talents. (Talents that came with push-up bras, push-out tummies, spastic tongue, stained clothing, floppy shoes and disheveled hair.)
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to fake tears. She's going to have to think of something that would really make her sad, like, "It's over. What am I going to do now?".
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She could always borrow some of her buddy Beck's Vicks.
I really empathize with the desire to move to Canada. My daughter, a first generation American, has already gone. She left when Bush got in for a second time.
ReplyDeleteBut I chose this country and I'm damned if I'm giving up on it yet. As long as all of you guys exist, I have hope.
"She ain't right."
ReplyDeleteAin't THAT the truth.
yeah that was a good interview gryphen, thanks for posting it. she was polite and appeared to have read the book! what a difference between her and so many of our talking heads.
ReplyDeleteLucy at 11:28 has a great idea. Bring out the Two Babies again. Ruffles was on the cover of U S Star for goodness' sake! There was the tiny baby Levi was holding, and that huge Central Casting thing the crafty Heaths were holding. Ruffles on Facebook in the Palin's kitchen looks/looked nothing like giant Trig hauled out at the RNC!
ReplyDeleteThanks for these links! This is how a good interview is done, and I'm glad Joe addressed the wild ride in context of her poor mothering skills and babygate.
ReplyDelete"IF those are family values, I'm glad they're not my family values" was my favorite response of his.
This should go viral, and shame on our media in the lower 48. Sarah may be yesterday's news, but the truth matters and has to be exposed, lest we ever let it happen again.
Every book is like a piece of a puzzle as seen from different perspectives.
On a good note, I lent my kindle copy to someone who's doubted me on the whole Palin controversey. I left on "most highlighted" feature, she's six chapters into the book, plus chapter 19, and she's changing her tune.
She bought the image Sarah projected hook, line, and sinker. After seeing her on GVS, she's open to changing her mind, and seetheing mad she allowed herself to be duped.
The tide is turning, but I still doubt she'd vote for President Obama.
@10:24 AM
ReplyDeleteAs a Canadian living in the US, I think that the law in Canada that says that news programs must tell the truth has a lot to do with it. The right wingers tried to get Harper to repeal that law Candadian law and Fox news was ready to expand into Canada. They failed to do so and Rupert's boys changed their minds. Fox news cannot succeed without lies.
Lucy is correct - the two babies are indeed so visible and fully documented.
ReplyDeleteBut it is a difficult story to tell, because who can work out what it is about?
And, alongside that, there is the odd pregnancy of Bristol which - as the Palins Deceptions blog pointed out - did not show consistent progress. Very odd. As if it was fake too ... but why? And why do Trig and Tripp look the same age?