I think this is a great idea.
You can find the timeline here.
After looking through it if you believe you have a photo to add, one that you can date accurately that is, please leave a link in the comments section, or e-mail it to me (Gryphen2009@yahoo.com), and I will send it on to Jen.
You know the saying, "It takes a village?"
Well it takes a community of dedicated truth seekers to get to the bottom of Sarah Palin's infinite lies.
I am a person that must have a visual (image) in order to grasp meaning or comprehension from what I read. I am very analytical, and perspicacious in researching a subject matter, but even after coming here to read for the last three years, I was mortified by the information given to us by you Gryphen in the last few days concerning the time lines of two, or may be 4, etc. babies. I was unable to visualize the time periods with their corresponding events. So I am very thankful to Jen and you, for this presentation, it is, “Utterly Superb. Bravo!” Everything just fell into place. This timeline and one of Sara like it can definitely bite the Palins in the…. I would definitely buy a CD just to collaborate.
ReplyDeleteCan someone help me with this?
ReplyDeletehttp://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/30/political-pictures-sarah-palin-piper-palin-tiara/
better angle
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/palin-family/
The best I can come up with is this is sept 1st (ish)(before the weird padding in the black/charcoal dress)
Gryphen,
ReplyDeleteI have been collecting pics of Palin. I think everyone else has. I'm sure the ones I have are the same as everyone elses, but the point is that I don't absolutely know this. PLEASE start a time line for Palin so that everyone can upload all the pics we have. Any new person coming to this Palin baby thing then has an easy way to get started with it. Curating it would no doubt be a bit of work, but I think you could easily rope some people in to help you.
-Nick G :-)
She is definitely pregnant in that Oct '06 photo. No 16-year-old has a gut like that normally.
ReplyDeleteI beleive the child she is carrying there is the older Tripp we see her parading around LA with a pacifier in his mouth, who is now almost 4 years old.
Her first born.
Here is another from a blog dated 9/1/08
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ericedmonds.com/2008/09/palin-distraction-chapter-1.html
Why is the Secret Life picture in 2011?
ReplyDeleteThat was early March 2010.
I have like 48000 pictures of Bristol with correct dates. But alas, what's the real point in this?
Secret life of the teen was in 2010. Before DWTS.
ReplyDeleteHey Gryphen, guess what? It takes a village to raise Sarah's kids too. Old fertile Mytle can sure make most of the babies, but she sure doesn't like raisin them or whatnot.
ReplyDeleteShe'll pick out her convenient WalMart provided favorite color combo (cause she can't match to save her life) jammies and sit and watch her stories on teevee while the kids burn mac'n'cheese to eat.
Wait til dad comes home in two weeks from the slope or go to Chuck and Sally's, or anyone of your auntie's or any of the real bball or hockey mom's houses while I daydream about being anything but a mediocre human being.
So what kind of inspiration does this inspire for her oldest daughter? Her aspiration is to have a baby of her own, before she even graduates high school or becomes a legal adult, so she can care for two toddlers.
Whatever the story with these Palin women, they sure as hell have some nerve.
I'm sure Jen put a great deal of time & effort into compiling that time line, Gryphen, and she should be commended for all her hard work. I'm disappointed, however, that there is not more substance to it. Let's hope she receives additional photos and information, as per your request, to flesh it out a bit.
ReplyDeleteGreat idea. Someone at Laura's blog is doing a Levi timeline too, to make sense of the pictures you posted yesterday.
ReplyDeleteWell, it's a great idea, but the photos cannot be enlarged or clicked on?
ReplyDelete(ahem)
ReplyDeleteI don't know, I think early on, Bristol has the belly of a normal teenage girl who loves life and loves ganging out with her friends drinking wine coolers and whatnot.
Levi is a liar. How come he never says how he and Bristol were broken up while they were having all that sex she talked about.
And Bristol played powderpuff football that one time and was on the basketball team for a couple weeks. She was a supreme athlete who has such amazing control over her body, she can make her belly and breasts any size she wants any day of the week. I talked to the bus driver of the #32 in Des Moine who knows a hair dresser in Tuscaloosa who's best friend in Los Angeles heard that thing Bristol said about the DWTS rehearsals being super easy. That's a fact.
You're just an immature person who judges other people you don't know and is only spreading immature viscous lies out of your own immature curiosity. I'm glad I don't know you and I find you guilty of being immature and weird.
Bristol is blunt and loves life. Stop being curious about her. Stop talking about her. She just wants to hang out on her reality tv show, be a spokesperson for not having sex, talk about how she got pregnant that one time, and lay out her entire sexual and dating history in interviews and a book. Stop talking about her abstinence, her pregnancies, her love life, and her sexual history. That's her private life and whatnot.
The Secret Life of an American Teenager is misdated. It was 2010 not 2011.
ReplyDeleteThis is a great idea and exactly what is needed to clear up the convoluted lies and distortions spewed by the palin family. I hadn't seen the running on ice picture until today. She is definitely not pregnant in that picture.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait to read the idiot troll posts from Bristol and Sarah. You know they can't resist a babygate post. Hey Bristol since we all know you're reading here let me ask you this: Why did you name your son after Todd's prostitute? You'll answer me unless you're a coward like your mother. And where IS Tri-G anyway? He's been missing for awhile. Not seen in any photo with his "mom" Sarah. That's weird huh? You know all she has to do is provide DNA samples from the whole clan to clear up this little issue. Why does she refuse? What is she hiding? Hmmmm
ReplyDeleteThanks for doing this Jen. Based on the pictures, she certainly looks prego at the end of 2007 (October NYC trip), at the end of 2008 (Sept., Oct., Nov. pics), and in early 2011 (during DWTS).
ReplyDeleteGreat idea and great work JEN. Thank you!
ReplyDeleteAwwww, thanks Jesse!
ReplyDelete-Jen
(ahem)
ReplyDeleteHow come you're not talking about how Obama pulled the wool over everybody's eyes and faked a pregnancy?
To (ahem) at 4:55: viscous lies? The kind that spread gooey ick all over everything and disgust everyone who comes within a couple of feet of the viscous liar? That kind of viscous lie?
ReplyDeleteAhem at 4:55, that was pure gold.
ReplyDeleteAnd, (ahem)@4:55, the "belly fat" that comes from drinking too much alcohol and doing too many drugs and eating too much Taco Bell accumulates at the waist, not below the abdomen, as a pregnancy does. Bristol Palin appears to be pregnant in a photo taken in Sept. 2007. What are the odds...
ReplyDeleteI'm looking at the 9/03/08 RNC photo, where it's often speculated that Bristol Palin is wearing padding.I don't remember the actual outline of a bra showing before. Is it another position from this session that we usually see? There's definitely some sort of padding bulging out over the cleavage and above it, though it doesn't go all the way up to her neckline, where the fabric is quite relaxed.
ReplyDelete(ahem), you've been cracking me up. Thanks.
I'd love to see someone do a calendar analysis (spreadsheet? graphs?) of all the time periods, known and speculated, and dates, whether firm or contradictory. Would need meticulous sourcing, with notes on how the dates were calculated, so that we could pin down the different dates Sarah gives for Trig's fetal age at birth. Would probably require heavy use of gradients for the speculated date ranges.
Amanda,
ReplyDeleteThat picture was taken at the December 4, 2006 governor inauguration ceremony.
http://www.alaskastock.com/resultsframe.asp?txtkeys1=todd%20palin
I've been the broken record saying that blue-sweater Trig is the same baby as blue-black jumper RNC Trig. This makes the "little boy blue" photo important because Trig is clearly quite young, and I think can be distinguished from the photos of Ruffles, including the two photos in Frank's book.
ReplyDeleteBut G's choice of photos for this post is interesting: I believe this is the last known sighting of Ruffles, on August 29. Days later at the RNC we had the debut of Trig2/"RNC Trig" -- the designated/procured prop baby. The case for two babies in this time frame is laid out here:
http://www.palinpeytonplace.com/2-babies-1-surgical-repair---presented-by-sarah-palin.html
The key photos are at the very bottom: the babies resemble each other but there is NO WAY those ears are the same. You can find the RNC photo on the Web at higher resolution: blowing it up reinforces this conclusion.
I'm starting to think there were four babies: Tripp1 born to Bristol earlier than advertised, Trig1 (Ruffles) born to Bristol 2/08, Trig2 born to someone in March/April 2008, stand-in Tripp born to someone 1/2009. The mystery is where the doppleganger babies came from -- Banyan's IVF theory is one possible answer, at least for Trig2. The other mystery is where these babies went. Presumably a borrowed healthy Tripp2 would have simply gone back home; like others I fear that Ruffles did not survive. (Look at the photo on G's post, and the photos in Bailey's book: do these show a sleepy baby, or a severely hypotonic baby?)
Kat
Everytime there are pictures of this baby his feet are bare. I always notice this- a child doesn't need shoes until they walk, but need socks or botties. (their feet get cold)I'm sure the airconditioning was going durning the RNC. This is a special needs baby. SAorry but my opinion is that there are very few teenage boys that would take such an interest in their girlfriends mothers baby- going to the hospital and all when they will be at home the next day.
ReplyDeletebristol reminds me of lindsay lohan in a way - a pretty young girl with potential who has followed a self-destructive path
ReplyDeleteat least bristol is just a lying grifter, not a drug abuser
The timeline is a great idea, for all the players involved. But I must take exception to the placement of the pic of Bristol in the basketball uniform. There's no way that basketball player is older than the girl in green sweater. The basketball player looks to be about 14 years old. I think this one is out of place, possibly date altered to establish her time at school in Juneau.
ReplyDeleteAhem, you RULE!
@4:55 am, ahem: What a brilliant piece of satire. It takes genius to work the word "immature" into a sentence three times, and four times in a short paragraph. That's not immature; that's the give away that this is great humor. Bristol was an athlete for several weeks, so unlike any other DWTS contestant, she gained weight and rehearsing was easy for her. And, to mimic being a real troll or Bristol herself, one would have to add that Bristol has written a great work of fiction, got pushed around the dance floor in numerous costumes, and she can read a speech if it is written in short, simple words.
ReplyDeleteIn the place where Me Again posts from time to time, someone wrote a wonderful piece of advice to Bristol. She should take the money that she has been lucky enough to be handed for having so little talent, get professional therapy, and take her kid(s) as far from Alaska and her dominating mother as possible.
However, Bristol would have to want to change, grow, mature and lead a normal life. I don't think that she knows what's normal. If no one else will say it, I will. Bristol has been abused and it will affect her for the rest of her life. Abuse can be mental as well as physical, and given what she has been through with Sarah, giving birth when she was an immature teen and humiliated on the public stage during the 2008 campaign, Bristol will need therapy to prevent her own kids from following in her footsteps. If she doesn't break the cycle, it will be repeated.
Thanks colacarat... I was hoping!
ReplyDeleteAhem~comedic gold! Thank you.
Hi Sarah, Welcome Back!
ReplyDeleteQuick question, Where's Trigs Birth Certificate?
'dedicated truth seekers'? lol. Straight up whackdoodles is more like it.
ReplyDeletei would like to see the focus of this timeline broadened to include all of the hinky stuff that has been said/done by any of them, all of them(in the palin camp) through photos/links and quotes. it would be easier to visualize. kind of a 'oh she said this here and then said the opposite here' kind of thing. i'm having issues with the sole focus of this timeline being bristol for some reason. all of these kids are messed up and i feel bad for adding to dysfunction.
ReplyDeleteat least bristol is just a lying grifter, not a drug abuser
ReplyDelete6:23 AM
that you know of.
Could Tripp be the result of the camping "trip" in the tent?
ReplyDeleteHonestly, this timeline confuses me more than ever. Compare 10/18/10 to 10/28/10 - it looks like she lost a LOT in the stomach area in ten days. I'm assuming the photo credits are correct, since the are professional photo services, but geez!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the photos, guys! Even if it shows us strange information, it's like a science experiment - the more data we collect, the more we can figure out!
- Jen
Anonymous Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete'dedicated truth seekers'? lol. Straight up whackdoodles is more like it.
6:52 AM
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I've been a huge follower of Palingates and then this blog for the past year and a half (it's been my hobby)annnnddd... I'm sorry but the past week's babygate stuff just seems creepy to me.
It seems unlikely that there's an elaborate cover up and, in that event, I can't help but now consider the Palins private citizens. It seems a bit too looky-loo to scrutinize photos that seem to be the same kids. I... just don't see the issue and think this is a bit overboard.
I swear, I'm not trolling, just wanted to post that the new timeline gives me an icky feeling.
Heather in Chicago
thank ahem for the belly laugh this morning -- do you remember catfood tweets? they were AWESOME. ahhh. thanks again. laughing is good for the soul.
ReplyDelete@ Ahem--- You are hysterical- I've been enjoying your comments sooooo much!
ReplyDeleteThank-you, especially today because it's my birthday and I love to start the day with laughter.
RE: the time line-- I think it's a great idea. I hope, however, that we are not asking Jen to re-invent the wheel. I hope that Jen knows there are a lot of resources available at PD. Also I think there's a number of flickr accounts with this stuff. I believe ProChoiceGrandma has some great stuff in her account.
ALSO- the BP photo with the small belly bump in the light green sweater seems wrong for 2006-- I think it's 2007 (I know this has been disputed). Look at the inaugural photo a few months later with the yellow sweater where the bump is gone. I think it's (fall) 2007 because we know that's when BP was on that NYC J-Lo show where she was definitely concealing a belly bump in a large white blouse
Also, too, just yesterday, Politicalgates had a great photo essay following up on IM's post. There are some very important photos there, including one of BP at the (Philly ?)zoo looking very pregnant (or recently post partum) in 7/08. Check it out.
I enjoyed the link provided by Amanda @ 3:35 a.m. that was originally posted September 1, 2008. Please read the comments. A lot of them were from people who did not buy the Palin myth from the get-go. Like most of us.
ReplyDeleteThank you for undertaking this task, Jen. My two cents worth: refrain from personal commentary. Stick to date and other factual advice. You do not KNOW Bristol was a breastfeeding mother at the RNC. Let the pictures speak for themselves.
ReplyDeleteMy opinion:
1.)Breastfeeding is not for everyone. Breastfeeding does not create gargantuan, oddly-shaped bosoms, just somewhat bigger than usual ones.
2.)Knowing what we do about the parenting and personality strengths of Palin women, it is unlikely they would ever bother to pump or lift a shirt and offer a boob. That's what nannies and bottles were invented for!
Either way, opinion based commentary is a distraction from the photo timeline.
Thanks!
Thats not a good time line and it dosnt show some of her worst pics. I call TROLL -E
ReplyDeleteI have like 48000 pictures of Bristol with correct dates. But alas, what's the real point in this?
ReplyDelete3:37 AM
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Surely that's a typo. Did you mean 4,800? I can't imagine there's anyone as insignificant as Bristol with that many pictures of her. A president, A list celebrity or sports player probably doesn't even have 48,000 unique pictures. And this is a 20 year old girl we're talking about, not exactly a person who's been around awhile.
Nice Timeline. It's probably a good idea to get all these things organized and easy to have access to if the truth of the Palins suddently spills out. Media will be beside themselves trying to scoop up easy-to-understand timelines.
ReplyDeleteNotice how the major news stations this past week rarely mention Palin. Now that the fluff and trifle players have been eliminated, the serious contenders are dominating the news. Sarah's gig is over.
I'd like to see a more definitive date for the green sweater pic too. Audrey's case for 2006 is based on circumstantial evidence, e.g. a campaign button on Todd's jacket.
ReplyDeleteA bunch of folks went through the Wayback machine archives of the gov's website recently; did that photo show up?
Has anyone ever simply asked the photographer, Marc Lester, for a firm date?
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete'dedicated truth seekers'? lol. Straight up whackdoodles is more like it.
6:52 AM
I may be a whackdoodle (did you mean whackAdoodle), but i'm a very PISSED whackdoodle.
... PISSED that you hoaxed us, $arah ~ you ignorant slut!
(h/t to Dan Ackroyd)
OH, for the love of God, "ahem" is a parody troll! How is it that someone who comments here frequently doesn't know that?
ReplyDelete"I can't help but now consider the Palins private citizens."
ReplyDeleteOh, that's rich. Considering the amount of public funds that were expended on providing police escorts for Sarah's Wacky Constitutional-alooza this past summer, it seems to me that that "private citizen" owes some money to some local jurisdictions.
@Amanda
ReplyDeleteThe photo of the Palin Family that you inquired about is from Dec 1, 2006. It was made during her inauguration as Gov of AK.
Slightly OT, but I just found another picture of "RNC Trig" in the blue sweater that he is wearing in the pic with Willow that Kernel put online:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.alaskastock.com/preview.asp?image=351PL%20AN0023D001&imagex=65&searchnum=0002
This is always such a sad picture to me - Bristol learned just a couple hours earlier, after flying all night under the guise of celebrating her parent's 20th anniversary, then being driven to a two-bit hotel, walking into a room where her mother stands, surrounded by strangers, then having her mom tell a bald man standing there, "You tell them."
ReplyDeleteAt which point Steve Schmidt tells Bristol and her sisters that their mom is running for the vice-presidency. How would you feel as a pregnant 17 year old? All the pictures from that fateful day in Ohio show the terror on Bristol's face.
Look - I can't stand what she became - a fame and fortune chaser (although we have to remember she learned from the best of the best). But on that day, she was simply a young, unwed pregnant teenager whose mother had worked incessantly that summer to keep her out of view so all the silly V.P. chatter could continue unabated.
I see these pictures and I feel sorry for her - she knows it's only a matter of hours before she becomes the second most famous unwed pregnant woman in all of human history (second to the Virgin Mary).
Hey Sarah: cool mothering you got going on there.
Have you seen what Levi said about Bristol naming the baby Tripp"? I posted it here:
ReplyDeletethepalinplace.blogspot.com
"at least bristol is just a lying grifter, not a drug abuser"
ReplyDeleteThere are therapy options for drug abusers. I don't know of anything that can cure lying and grifting.
It's always fun to drop by and see who (ahem) has taken in today. Thanks (ahem), every day you teach a few people that they need to lighten up!
ReplyDeleteThanks, Jen! And thanks, Gryphen.
ReplyDeleteGlad you posted that photo on the post, Gryphen. That was just a few days before Bristle walked out on the stage with her boyfriend stuffed after the announcement was made that she was five months pregnant.
Where's that huge chest? She has her arms wrapped around holding that baby. Where's that big baby bump?
I think she's about the same size as she was in that fair photo taken on 07-19-08 by Alaska Dispatch where she's wearing a brown zipped up jacket with her hands in her pockets.
I think she faked that pregnancy to cover-up for her mother. How else can it be explained that she went from small chested to huge in just a matter of days? And in that photo of her getting off that bus wearing that sweatshirt showed a much smaller chest, too.
Another thing that bothered me was her walking fast across the ice in that video of 12/10/08. She was not big, like she was still wearing that same prosthetic prop and she was walking like she was not pregnant at all. She could have zipped up that jacket. Yet, it was announced that she gave birth to a seven pound baby three weeks later. I don't think so. Look at that photo Jen has posted, that white shirt snug below that jacket. I just don't think she was pregnant at all.
Keep up the good work!
I still think everyone is giving the Payme's too much credit. They are not smart enough for all this subterfuge. If you keep it simple, I think things fall into place. These people are NOT smart but do have access to blocking files and destroying evidence.
ReplyDeleteBri$stol and Levi have a child when she is 16, pregnant at 15. (Tripp) They may or may not have been 'made to marry'. Maybe that marriage was annulled after Baby #1 was sent away. Picture of young Levi in awe of his first child. I believe the Johnson's have knowledge of this birth.
Bri$tol is angry that the baby is taken away and starts acting out. Drinking heavily, partying, etc.
Baby #2 is a result. I think this is the baby $carah wanted to adopt and is also 'Ruffles'. $carah makes plans to fake a pregnancy and claim this baby as her own. Ruffles is a fas baby and $carah realizes she cannot adopt it, but the idea of a 'DS, walk the walk baby' has been planted. $carah continues plans to fake a pregnancy. I think the Johnson's were in on this pregnancy also. His original name may have been Triggy or Trigger (triggy-bear)
Ruffles is either too ill to survive or needs constant care and is gone. Picture of older Levi looking at second baby, he looks more mature and also has a look of sadness that wasn't present in pic #1. I think they already know how bad Ruffles health is. He may actually be the one with heart problems and $carah throws that into her story for drama.
Rumors start to circulate that Tri-g is Bri$tol's. A plan is made so that $carah can survive not being vetted for VP. Bri$tol fakes a pregnancy to cover for Tri-g. She, in return, get's baby #1 (tripp) back.
He is brought bk into the picture and made to give the impression that he is a year younger.
The Johnson's are/were coerced into going along with all of this (warning shot is Mom's arrest). Computers scrubbed by McCains thugs to cover their asses. I think they were also told that they would be given access to Tripp once it was all over and were lied to. This accounts for the feelings of betrayal and anger. There is no telling what or how many legal papers Levi has been talked into signing. They were all used and used well.
There are not millions of babies. There are Bri$tol's two and $carah's one (adopted). Although $carah may have used stand ins for Tri-g and I think Bri$tol had another baby (DWTS). The original story is about 2 babies and $carah's inept attempt to cover them up with a third. She screws up everything she touches by having to go that extra mile for the drama..
@ 3:37, do you really need someone to answer that for you? Really?
ReplyDeleteNo, you are just being annoying.
Go away.
Outstanding way to present this subject - as to the timeline photos - to match your comments. Should the same thing be done w/sister Sarah?
ReplyDeleteThanks for your hard work, Gryph. This will be the matter, when proven, that erases Sarah, Toad and Bristol from the face of the United States. Those poor little ones - having to read about all of this when they are adults.
Heather in Chicago,
ReplyDeletePlease, by all means, go elsewhere if you are offended or - gasp! - made uncomfortable by all this. Go ahead and consider the Palins "private citizens". They are. However, they are private citizens who are con artists and fame whores. Bristol is fair game. She made a lot of money pretending to be abstinent. She was paid a lot of money to be on that stupid dancing show and is now filming a reality show. She - like her mother - has NO intention of retiring from the public eye. So, sell your concern act somewhere else. Or send SarahPac some money if you feel so terribly concerned. I'm sure Sarah would be more than happy to accept it!
Wow, Amanada 3:30am...very interesting photos...so here are pictures AFTER the GOP huge-boobed-weirdly-pregnant looking Bristol and now she's skinny and doesn't have barely any boobs and doesn't look pregnant at all? Wowie. These 2 pics are a smoking gun proving that Bristol was NOT pregnant at the RNC convention.
ReplyDeleteExcellent initiative and effort, Jen!
ReplyDeleteThe Jan. 10 2011 TMZ photo was reported as taken in AZ (not LA), shopping for the new house. It may be one of those photos that can't be verified by date or location.
There's a date type on the description of Oct 18 2010.
I'm sending you some more photos via Gryphen.
@ 8:39
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to tell, but that baby's eyes look blue to me.
From the angle, it's also hard to tell if he has the crossed eye, I think maybe he does. He also looks DS to me.
He's got a perfect little ear, not like the other "Trig" that has the pointed long bat-wing ears.
a great video of the various Trigs
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_tMn7hMrKM&feature=player_embedded
features batwing ear Trig, protruding tongue Trig, animated Trig, thick neck Trig and thick lip Trig
All have similar but different looks.
Thanks for all the feedback, guys. I did use Audrey's date for the green sweater pic, and the AP correction date for the basketball pic. Obviously it's harder than it should be to pin down dates for these pics.
ReplyDeleteI feel sorry for Bristol too - especially looking at her when she was younger. She doesn't know she's about to get thrown from Momma's train. My sole reason for creating this timeline was not to isolate her, but to try to see when she might have been pregnant so as to help explain all these mystery babies.
My grandmother behaved similarly to Sarah in a lot of ways, so I feel sorry for Bristol as the daughter of a mentally ill person who rolls all over her, too. But that does not mean that I don't want to try to find all the pieces to this puzzle - I'm hoping that the more information that is gathered, the easier the hoax will be to prove in the absence of hard documentation like birth certificates.
-Jen
DWTS was an interesting time. One day Bristol had a typical body, albeit chunky. The very next day she was at a speech engagement with a belly flatter than my AA breasts.
ReplyDeleteAnon 7:52, I was exaggerating. But I do have over 500k pics. Sad I know.
ReplyDeleteIf a picture is worth a thousand words then this graphic is worth ten thousand.
ReplyDeleteAmidst all the discussion over who Trig's mother may be, some of our readers have stepped forward to gently remind us that a crucial message may be lost in the debate - the one message upon which this blog was founded. That message: Given the evidence, it is highly, highly suspect that Sarah Palin gave birth to the Trig Palin.
http://palindeception.blogspot.com/
How many words is THIS picture worth?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/37361020@N07/3448633965/
-Jen
hey i just suggested this the other day good work!
ReplyDeleteNot to beat a dead horse, but Nicholle Wallace broke the news of the VP annoucement, not Steve Schmidt. Though, personally, I think Todd caved slightly on the plane ride to Ohio. The Palin kids were pretty calm the whole time in Ohio. They weren't completely taken aback by the news.
ReplyDelete7:25 AM:
ReplyDeleteI believe you when you say you're not trolling. But, I do have a question. How does viewing pictures of the people & events of 'Babygate(s)' make it worse (or more 'icky' as you say) than reading written accounts that are not in a convenient timeline? Are you saying that showing pictures suddenly makes everything ickier and crosses some line of propriety for you?
Just remember, it was the icky factor that kept certain MSM members on the left from daring to question the veracity of Palin's wild ride story and everything that led up to it, even if if meant covering up perhaps the greatest hoax ever perpetuated upon the American public.
You're free to your opinions of course but your sudden u-turn (going from Avid reader of Palin conspiracies to 'leave them alone it's all private' attitude) leaves more questions than answers.
Great timeline, Jen! And to those of you who are saying it doesn't have enough content, etc, give it time. The site allows you to add items whenever you want, and I'm sure content will be flowing in now.
ReplyDeleteI'd also like to see one for Mama Grifter. You know that one will be good!
re: Allison @8:57
ReplyDeleteI know that there are several blogs that we are all visiting every day. I ALMOST did not go to Allison's blog (being on overload, myself).
BUT - I HIGHLY encourage everyone to visit her blog - especially enlightening are her quotes (with opinions) from Levi's book, "Deer In The Headlights."
Good stuff, new stuff - I recommend!
thepalinplace.blogspot.com
@11:06, you are wrong. It was Steve Schmidt. Documented in more than one book.
ReplyDeleteOK< we've hit the frickin' motherload!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/37361020@N07/sets/
I think Levi is lying about surgical procedures to try to cover up for her face/body changes due to pregnancy.
ReplyDeleteok after checking that timeline:
10/23/07 - pregnant;
04/28/08 - not pregnant;
07/19/08 - pregnant (face weight gain)
09/03/08 - more than 5 months pregnant (someone said other day they think she tried to look less pregnant, I agree)
10/14/08 - About to drop any day
11/04/08 - That baby must be trying to get out by now!
12/10/08 - Not pregnant
At least 3 kids.....
By the way: is the ''godson'' still living in L.A.? Wonder what words he/she has been learning: 'Godmother'?
Anon @ 8:39 am:
ReplyDeleteWow. A new baby in Blue Cardigan photo.. & from another angle, a side shot, the baby does look different than on the plane.
Well done..
And Piper in that tiny designer jacket, just like Mom..
Wonder how much that cost?
Wonderful timeline, Jen.. a lot of work, thank you :)
Anon @8:52
ReplyDeleteGeoffrey Dunn in The Lies of Sarah Palin, quotes Steve Schmidt as saying Sarah asked him to tell the girls and that he "walked into the room where the three Palin girls were...told them their mother was selected to run for VP...and that THERE WAS NO REACTION from any of the three girls. That they just looked at him. And that he couldn't wait to get out of the room".
That makes me shudder to think of it. Why wouldn't Sarah and/or Todd tell them? Close, loving family? I don't think so.
(ahem) You're comments are cracking me up. Hilarious.
@11:20, in response to your post regarding the "ick" factor anon, I felt that way when the research on social security numbers and babies was being discussed in comments, especially when specific names of babies who had died were mentioned with their ss#. That being said, if we were only trying to uncover the truth about the offspring of a young teen mom and her teenage boyfriend, the ick factor would be totally understandable. The sad truth is this is about children (Tripp and Trig both) who have been used like designer handbags, neglected in some instances, pushed in our faces as distractions and defenses against legitimate criticism and inquiries and lied about SO Blatantly FOR BOOKS AND SPEECHES GENERATING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS by a woman who actually wanted to be President of our country. All while saying hateful, deceitful rhetoric that is very dangerous for our country. So, fuck "ick." Let's find the truth.
ReplyDeleteI think that it would be helpful if all the different stories/contradictory "info" are listed on the photos. Clearly Separated and the Source clearly stated. For example, the Burchell prom photo should also list "DITH book caption reads Bristol 2 months pregnant" (I think that's what it was, going from memory)
ReplyDeleteThe Lies of Sarah Palin by Geoffrey Dunn, pg.197, quotes Steve Schmidt being asked by Sarah to tell the girls that she'd been chosen by McCain.
ReplyDeleteTrying to give links when possible about "facts" so that everybody and Sarah also, too, can check it out.
Gryph, check out the link at12:09.. that deserves a front page post on your page, it really is that important.
ReplyDeleteI'd bet that the Palin kids were so used to being used as Political Props already. $arah used them when she ran for Mayor, Lt Gov., and Gov.
ReplyDeleteThey were probably not shocked by anything Mommy Dearest did, all the while using them.
IMHO, I would not doubt that she would use guilt on them if they rebelled in any way. They are her kids, so they know what kind of crazy they had to deal with all the time.
Sharon,
ReplyDeleteYou're right! That quote of Schmidt sounds all "Children of the Corn", no?
Just to avoid confusion..
ReplyDeleteAmanda @ 3:30 am's great photos of slim Bristol wearing a corsage & white top: tho dated 2008/10:
As colacarot says @ 6:19 am.. that photo is from Dec 2006, governor inauguration ceremony..
If you miss colacarot's post, it is easy to get the wrong impression .. and try to compare the heavily padded Bristol at the 2008 convention c the slim girl from 2006.
I have been thinking about black/blue jumper baby some today, and I'll have to look a bit more, but there is something about black/blue baby's neck that looks different. He doesn't have the same thickness in his neck as other, known photos of Trig, or even other photos of Trig(?) at the RNC.
ReplyDeleteI think that black/blue baby is Tripp, and that he is about 4-5 months old during the RNC.
So I was thinking, if that was what Tripp looked like at 4 months, what would Trig have looked like when he was 4 months old? I think a 4 month old Trig might resemble the Trig in a picture that was on the cover of People magazine, that featured Sarah, Piper, and Trig in an outdoor setting. Sarah and Piper are dressy in black, and Trig is very small, and dressed in a red onesie. It suddenly occurred to me that he was dressed for Christmas. Counting back 4-6 months from Christmas 2007, I arrive at a birth month of July to September of 2007 for Trig.
Please, please forgive my lack of links. I know not how to do these things.
Talk about eyes that are glued wide open by fear...
ReplyDelete1:33 PM this is 11:20 AM:
ReplyDeleteWell said!
Everyone check this link out:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/37361020@N07/sets/
It will blow your socks off.
Well, I'm just not seeing a DWTS pregnancy. Plus, we were thinking she looked possibly pregnant all the way back in May of '10. Which would mean she was at least two or three months pregnant by then. And if that were so, then there is no way she could have stayed in DWTS till end of November. So I think that she just got fat, in spring of '10.
ReplyDeleteWell, we forgot about that and began focusing on an early pregnancy in September, when she started DWTS. And, to some extent she did seem to get a bit bigger, but not much. Then, in the photo timeline there are TWO photos dated 11/24/10. In one she looks no more pregnant than in May or September, and in the other one, the only one that actually looks definitely pregnant, she looks 5 or 6 months. I just don't know that spandex can hide a pregnancy that well.
Meanwhile, back in October of '08 there is the famous Walmart pic, in which she's wearing the gray sweater and looks like she's really pregnant, about 5-6 months. Then, later in December in the walking on the ice picture, she has a blue puffy vest jacket on with front pockets and hands forcefully in those pockets in front of her abdomen - and despite the puffy material and the hands pushing out in front she looks no more pregnant than she looked two months earlier in Walmart. And definitely not someone ready to deliver in two weeks.
Based on that photo, I don't believe Tripp was born on Dec. 27.
@ (ahem): You are saying the sex life of Bristol, who has made a small fortune talking about her sex life, is private – did I get that right? Logic is not your strong suit. And if she has been pregnant only once, I'm a virgin.
ReplyDeleteLook, you can't have it both ways. And with the myriad deceptions of the public she has taken part in, the claim we are violating her well-deserved privacy becomes ludicrous. Go ahead – make my day. Tell me no deception happened at the RNC where her bust line could have competed with Dolly Parton's.
anon@926, that's basically the scenario that I and others have suggested in light of the Tank report. Not millions of babies: 4 babies, two born to Bristol. I do think there must have been a stand-in Tripp, if the real Tripp was older and hidden away until he could be plausibly reintroduced. Recall that Bree Palin comment that a couple of us have discussed: the person who claimed that Bristol had *one* baby, and that "Tripp" was only being "borrowed, as needed." In retrospect it sounds like the poster had some connection to the borrowed baby. What she might not have realized was that there WAS a "real Tripp" waiting in the wings.
ReplyDeleteOne thing that hits me: there are probably a fair number of people out there who know bits of the truth, but not all of it. The poster above had inside knowledge about borrowed Tripp, but no awareness of Real Tripp. There must be people who know about Ruffles (where he went) and RNC Trig (where he came from), but they wouldn't know the whole story. I wonder also too about anon432, who seemed to have inside medical info -- did she really know that (real) Tripp was born in 1/09, or could she have drawn inferences from records of a baby that was a stand-in? Laura had a recent post talking about the possibility that the truth might be known to only a tiny handful of people. I think it's a good point: the WHOLE truth might be known by a tiny number of people, and many people might have been fed fictions that they believe are -- and are hiding as -- the "real truth." But there have to be people out there who know pieces of the puzzle.
Kat
Bsharlott (Brad),
ReplyDelete(Ahem) is tongue-in-cheek...parody...snark. She (he?) makes us chuckle on a regular basis.
All is well.
I keep re-reading the October 9, 2007 email from Sean Parnell to Sarah Palin.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.crivellawest.net/palinAll/pdf/21746.pdf
What if a minor child was found to be several months pregnant -- or even delivered a baby -- on October 9, 2007, without parental knowledge or supervision and no prenatal care? And what if the minor child's name was Bristol Palin?
THAT WOULD be an urgent "OCS-infant" matter for the governor to address when she was in a "quiet place to think and talk," as Parnell advised in the email. I can almost see Parnell's hope (prayer) expressed in the message that Sarah had already been contacted so he wouldn't have to be the one to break it to her.
Thanks Jen, and Gryphen. Great Job!
ReplyDeleteAnd "Ahem" - please don't stop!!!! You've got it to an artform.
RE Bristol
I've never seen a teenage girl so dazed, confused, and lost as this girl. Not just the pregnancies, but she just lacks the basic social skills of a girl her age. In interviews, she's always giving stupid answers that no teen would say.
For a girl that Levi says wanted to get away from her mother and family, she doesn't act that way. She follows in her mother's footsteps in every detail except anorexia/bulemia. She craves attention, she gets plastic surgery to make herself feel better and look worse, she ghostwrites bullshit books for money and poses as something she's not.
She's been sexually active since she was at least 15, and has three to four pregnancies.
Don't get me wrong, the photos are great in the time line, but watching her in the candies "situation" video, on the view, and GVS, she comes across as a bimbo. She's always playing with her fingers, very aware of her skirt hems and posture, sashaying from side to side and speaking in valleygirl monotone from rote.
I guess we're as sick as the lies we keep.
My daughters and their friends are able to converse with adults in a meanigful way, give appropriate answers, and carry themselves with poise and grace.
Anon 5:41
ReplyDeleteI think that email from Parnell to Sarah in October 07 had something to do with Sarah being told that Bristol was pregnant for the second time.
amanda said...
ReplyDeleteCan someone help me with this?
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/30/political-pictures-sarah-palin-piper-palin-tiara/
better angle
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/gallery/palin-family/
The best I can come up with is this is sept 1st (ish)(before the weird padding in the black/charcoal dress)
...............those photos are from when Sarah was elected Governor of Alaska -- not the VP nominee
Cool. Thanks for the level responses to my ick-factor questioning.
ReplyDeleteAs for why the u-turn, well, I've always been skeptical about the Trig pregnancy, but the recent post about multiple babies just seemed beyond Occam's razor. It just hit me that analyzing these photos if there's nothing there is akin to a Bigfoot hunt except it's real people.
I dunno. I guess having her drop out of the race and rapidly and satisfyingly decrease in relevancy and power has made me less angry. Also, the main thing is I don't think that the conspiracy could possibly be as complicated as proposed.
Or could it?
Carry on, it just occurred to me that it might be far fetched, and in that case it's kinda icky to gawk at photos.
"Carry on, it just occurred to me that it might be far fetched, and in that case it's kinda icky to gawk at photos."
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Photo evidence is generally the first thing collected at a crime scene, for it tells a story, and in this instance, documents timelines.
Sarah Palin had to drop out of the race because too many questions are being asked and she can't / will not answer them.
ReplyDeleteToo many skeletons in her closet.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeletea great video of the various Trigs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_tMn7hMrKM&feature=player_embedded
features batwing ear Trig, protruding tongue Trig, animated Trig, thick neck Trig and thick lip Trig
All have similar but different looks.
10:09 AM
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Is it just a coincidence that someone started this channel and posted two videos depicting the Palins in a favorable light on October 10, 2011?
Are there 0 followers because we are the only ones looking at it?
colacarat: oops.
ReplyDeleteonething said...
ReplyDeleteI don't believe Tripp was born on Dec. 27.
I agree and here's why:
http://thepalinplace.blogspot.com/2011/10/allisons-own-thoughts-on-palin-johnston.html