Courtesy of The Daily Beast:
What began as a peaceful protest with reggae music and colorful rainbow peace signs in support of the global Occupy movement ended in what can only be described as total anarchy and urban warfare on the cobbled streets of Rome on Saturday.
Less than an hour into the organized demonstrations, which started at La Sapienza University with students legitimately protesting education cuts and their bleak future, a single car exploded on the Via Cavour not far from Rome’s historic Colosseum. From that moment on, chaos reigned and the Italian capital turned into a battleground.
Police say more than 500 anarchists—many who justify their violent acts under the mantra of those known as “black bloc”—infiltrated the otherwise peaceful protests. They were easily identifiable by their face masks and motorcycle helmets, not to mention the Molotov cocktails and paper bombs in their hands. One group known as Total Black was particularly ominous, dressed in all black with only their expressionless faces exposed. As the peaceful crowd shouted and waved their banners about joblessness, education cuts, and the dire state of Italy’s economy, the darker movement slowly stole center stage, breaking windows and torching cars.
At one point during the march, peaceful protesters took megaphones and urged the anarchists to go home. “Please, this is a peaceful demonstration against legitimate government issues,” one woman yelled. “Go home, let us protest in peace.” Moments later, the peaceful protesters started kicking and pummeling the violent faction among them. “Go home!” they yelled, turning and spitting on them.
Still, the anarchists persisted until they reached the final police barrier in Piazza San Giovanni. There, police used water cannons and tear gas to keep them at bay until they could be cornered and arrested. Those who escaped started new scuffles throughout the city. The peaceful protesters tried briefly to renew their momentum and finish their demonstration and vowed to take to the streets again next week so their voices could be heard.
This has always been a concern for the protestors that others would infiltrate their ranks and start trouble that they then would get blamed for thereby sabotaging the movement.
We saw the same thing happen, on a smaller scale, in DC.
The OWS protests, and their European doppelgangers, have to stay vigilant to protect their brand and keep troublemakers from giving the authorities reason to treat them all like criminals. Not an easy task I know, but one well worth the effort.
And while they are doing that, it is up to all the rest of us to make sure that the truth is reported instead of the lies that those working against this movement are desperate to disseminate.
As I understand it, the "black bloc"/"black shirts"/whatever they call themselves these days are basically plants of Berlusconi's, dropped into various peaceful protests to commit random acts of violence and thus justify police action.
ReplyDeleteRead into him a bit; loathsome as many of our hypocritical nutjobby scandal-coated American politicians are, in many ways Berlusconi makes 'em look like choir boys...
So the ignorance of US protesters is infiltrating other countries. Greaaaaaaat.
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We had a somewhat similar thing happen last year in my town. No torching of cars or anything, but Anarchist Black Bloc faction took over an International Workers Day march one evening. They came in at the tail end of the march, and started writing graffiti and symbols on buildings, and breaking windows, causing THOUSANDS of dollars of damage to local businesses, some of whom were just barely hanging on. Hooligans, cowards, thugs -- that's what they are. They are disgusting. I wondered how long it would take them to infiltrate the Occupy movement. Sometimes I wonder if they're in the pay of rich corporations.
ReplyDeleteOccupy protesters heckled Rupert Murdoch during a speech he was giving on Friday in San Fran about technology in education.
ReplyDeleteWow - Murdoch talking about technology in education -- Is his plan to include 'phone hacking'???
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/15/rupert-murdoch-heckled-sesame-street-video_n_1012812.html
Even though this protest occurred in Italy, the conservatives in this county, especially Fox News, will associate it with the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations. They may even use it to say whats going to happen next in our country, or to say they are connected to the same organizers in our country. Cantor will also use it to add additional fear to his earlier statement about "the mob" and how he fears them.
ReplyDeletegryphen, I would be cautious of any global protest publicized by the daily beast.
ReplyDeletewe've got the 'agent provocateurs' here as well.
ReplyDeletehad them in the 60's anti-war protests too.
It Is To Be Expected.
http://gawker.com/5850025/right+wing-rabble+rouser-leaks-thousands-of-occupy-wall-street-emails
puck 3:50
ReplyDelete'Black Bloc' is not exclusive to Italy. They are worldwide and will travel to events such as the G20, etc. to wreak havoc.
There were a number of them arrested at the G20 when it was held in Toronto - which was a disaster. The Bloc were burning cards, smashing windows, etc. and then unfortunately, many joined in like copycats. Most at the event had no clue as to Black Bloc - but sure do now.
In fact, at 'Occupy Toronto' today, the police were on alert for them as has been seen on video, they show up in street clothes to appear part of the peaceful events, but then change into full black with masks, etc. and start the chaos from within making it appear that it's from within the peaceful demonstration.
There were 2 arrests in the Toronto financial district where Occupy Toronto originated until they marched and located to a park some distance away. The two were carrying hammers which is odd to carry in a deserted financial district on a Saturday but they were stopped before they may have attempted anything. It's not known if in fact they were black bloc. No info has been released yet.
Gryphen my friend....with these "Anarchists" I have a more cynical opinion....these "black bloc" people....are government agent provocateurs....I think it started at the 1999 Seattle WTO meeting/protests/riots.
ReplyDeleteWe must get beyond the Democrat & Republican party corruption, and look at the fact that both parties are controlled by a "unseen force"....I would like to call this force the New World Order....
I want to leave some links so you & anybody else can see what I mean.
(1/4) Seattle WTO Riots exposed
(2/4) Seattle WTO Riots exposed
(3/4) Seattle WTO Riots exposed
(4/4) Seattle WTO Riots exposed
On agent provocateurs....
Police Provocateurs stopped by union leader at anti SPP protest
Dan Dicks Exposing Agent Provocateur On MTV
A very interesting film from Canada....
The Nation's Deathbed - Full Film
I hope you post this Gryphen....I think the the "Occupy" protesters around the country will be Infiltrated by these "Provocateurs" In the future....
Thank you again Gryphen.
anarchy only works on the small scale. it cannot work in a country of over 300 million people. unfortunately.
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ReplyDeleteanarchy only works on the small scale. it cannot work in a country of over 300 million people. unfortunately.
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Unfortunately protesting and waving signs is also as ineffective in a country of over 300 million people.
On Facebook, Palin changes her affiliation from "Republican" to "Conservative."
ReplyDeletehttp://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/10/15/sarah-palin-changes-facebook-profile-from-republican-to-conservative/
Palin's party affiliation change also here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049552/Sarah-Palin-changes-Facebook-profile-Republican-Conservative.html
ReplyDeletejust finished listening to the rogue on media that i loaned from my library, great book! Nice to hear the G mentioned and this now 'defunct' blog.
ReplyDeleteFor those that have not bought or cannot afford to buy the book, check out your library!
RE: Palin's Facebook status change.
ReplyDeleteJust last night on C4P everyone was in agreement that they didn't know WHEN she changed her status from Republican to Conservative, but they all agreed that given the fact that they were talking about it that it would be ALL OVER the Sunday news shows. From seeing all these links it looks like they were correct.
Crazy person is still dominating the news, and with something she did perhaps a month ago.
Last week I was saying that I admire how the protesters have (for the most part) been very peaceful.
ReplyDeleteI said to my B/F, "If they can just keep the anarchists out of it..."
::sigh::
So the ignorance of US protesters is infiltrating other countries. Greaaaaaaat.
ReplyDeleteUgh.
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You say protesters like a repug says femenist.
It is up to the people to take to the streets when so many have been convinced that voting against their own best interest is patriotic, just so the super rich can become the uber rich.
I really don't have any patience for your ilk tonight...why don't you go hangout on fox message boards or something.
@5:45 I'd take Alex Jones with a grain of salt. He is currently trying to discredit the OWS movement. He is a Libertarian, and tried to co-opt OWS with an Austin, TX End The Fed March, and supports Ron Paul. This is also where Glenn Beck came from, the John Birch-Cleon Skousen-Koch Bros. school of thought. He also helped ruin the 9-11 truth movement, and is a "controlled opposition" shill. He took over an Austin protest last year that gun show supporters were having, and they were shocked as shit when they asked him to speak and he shouted them down. It's on You-tube, and after seeing that I wouldn't trust anything he says. But yeah, you just never know who is who. Kinda like how Moveon.org took on a heavy anti-war stance against GWBush, but once Obama got in office, they "moved on"(just ask Cindy Sheehan). If you go to Moveon.org now, the OWS protests are their new cause, and no doubt the means justifies the end. Everybody's got an agenda. I do know that there is an anarchy movement here in the states, mostly Pacific NW, but I don't know if they are involved yet in OWS. Now my big concern is the Anonymous group who helped launch OWS, remember Empire State Rebellion? Who is Anonymous? What is their agenda? No one really knows, that I can figure out. I doubt the elites are hiring provocateurs at this point. I think that they are scrambling to figure out how to handle this, or else they just don't give a fuck if we all starve and kill each other. It's historical, whatever it is.
ReplyDeleteI do think the black bloc are hired by some kind of elite. It is too suspicious the way they show up in various countries at legitimate and peaceful demonstrations.
ReplyDeleteno one is talking about 'anarchy'.
ReplyDeleteunless of course youre a bankster
who is pissed people are Removing Their Money from your bankster operation.
if that is 'anarchy'...count me in.
find a state credit union.
fuck wallst.
As I've been reading IM and other stuff, I've been listening/watching the livestream of "Rock out to “A Decade of Difference” concert" on Yahoo for President Clinton.
ReplyDeleteAs I type this, Bono and Edge are performing.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/the-difference/rock-decade-difference-concert-215603256-20111014.html
btw...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/1 ... ells-Fargo
Thu Oct 13, 2011 at 06:10 AM PDT
San Jose: Millions Withdrawn from Bank of America and Wells Fargo!
PACT and Most Holy Trinity Catholic Church announced that they were withdrawing up to $4 million from their long-time banks and transferring those funds to local credit unions.
I went to the protest in Seattle today and it was great fun! No violence or arrests. I wanted to share some of the pictures.
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I love the guy with his arm around a police officer with a sign that says:
My community police officer pays more taxes than GE
and...
Only Boehner's tears trickle down.
AliCat
occupy anchorage article
ReplyDeletehttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44917710/ns/local_news-anchorage_ak/#.Tpp9T7KyAw0
I tend to think that the 8 arrested in PDX for refusing to allow traffic on Main Street were Anarchists. They are gone, say they're coming back, but I hope they won't have an influence. Anarchy will not help the cause.
ReplyDeleteFalse flag.........?
ReplyDeleteSarah changes her affiliation from Republican to Conservative...
ReplyDeleteJesus she's getting desperate for attention. Won't be long before she's flashing her tits at passing buses - anything to get someone to notice her.
Like the repubes say when they march and teabag with their guns or signs saying "I came unarmed, this time" the government should be afraid of the people. Uprisings are good. You know, unless it is a bunch of young hoods, fags, blacks, and poors, then uprisings should be illegal. Silly teabaggers, marching to protect the rich, just like they always have. Viva la revolution, y'all!
ReplyDeleteAnd these people demonstrates the prevalent misunderstanding of anarchism. It is not at all about ultimate destruction, but rather that all should govern themselves, and as a result, live peacefully in the world with others.
ReplyDeleteAnarchy is not tantamount to chaos.
Anarchy is not a boogeyman.
They ought to read a little.
I learned so much about how to protect yourself at protests, by reading pages at the anarchists page prior to the Iraq war.
ReplyDeleteI was one of many hundreds of thousands around the world protesting the build-up in Iraq. My boots just happened to be in Seattle.
I must have been to 7 or 8 protests prior to the war, and then after it started.
Some turned very violent. I was in one where the police "herded" protesters into a dead end, stopping or altering the route. Police then refused to let people go. People were calling the mayor on cell phones.
My mom was watching at home as TV news copters filmed from above. As soon as one person stepped off the curb because there was no other choice, it was on.I barely got out of there without my conflict with the police turning violent.
The first time I saw an "un-arrest" I thought I was going to have a heart attack. I had read of them, but never seen it. I didn't know what to think or feel about it, BECAUSE it was a non violent protester they had arrested, who was then "un-arrested" by a group of three dressed in black.
I don't know if the anarchist movement was ever it's own entity or if the black bloc is tied directly to them, but I believe that they are dropped into various peaceful protests to commit random acts of violence and thus justify police action.
So how do peaceful protesters counter-act that?
*note*
I have seen jack booted thugs in the SDP, but I have also seen officers crying and saying, "I am sorry, I don't agree with this."
They are not "anarchists"; they are fascists who create chaos at any left-ish demonstration in these parts in order to discredit it (I live in Italy). The protesters who want to march peacefully get into fights with them.
ReplyDeleteThey never show up at right-wing events, let me tell you, so right there that tells you who might be backing them.
And anyway… to call someone an "anarchist" should not be an insult, and it does not denote violence. "An-archism" just means without a "head"… real democracy is "an-archic" in most ways.
It means self-rule.
emrysa said...
ReplyDeleteanarchy only works on the small scale. it cannot work in a country of over 300 million people. unfortunately.
5:46 PM
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Unfortunately protesting and waving signs is also as ineffective in a country of over 300 million people.
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UNFOrTUNATELY VOTING IS ALSO INEFFECTIVE in a country with over 300 million people.
Someone on some website said the protesters would be better off writing letters to their representatives. Yea, whatever. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has written to one & gotten an "I respect your opinion, but I disagree, and I'm the one who makes the laws, haha!" letter back. Sometimes they send a pre-written letter "thanks for writing" and the "we'll get back with ya." Writing the idiots makes no difference, unless they are already planning on doing whatever it is you want them to. Plain and simple. If you aren't including a generous donation, don't bother with them. Fuckers.
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