Kansas House Speaker, and proud Christian, Mike O'Neal. |
House Speaker Mike O’Neal, R-Hutchinson, forwarded to fellow Republicans an email that refers to President Barack Obama and a Bible verse that says “Let his days be few and brief.”
But the speaker’s office said Tuesday that the email was referring to the president’s days in office.
The email, which has been posted in various places on the Internet, refers to a bumper sticker that reads “Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8.”
Psalm 109:8 says, “Let his days be few and brief; and let others step forward to replace him.”
The email states: “At last — I can honestly voice a Biblical prayer for our president! Look it up — it is word for word! Let us all bow our heads and pray. Brothers and Sisters, can I get an AMEN? AMEN!!!!!!”
I am always astounded at what low esteem supposedly "Christian" people hold their God.
Not only do they believe that God is sitting around waiting for them to make a request so that HE can jump through their hoop when they snap their fingers, they also seem to believe that he will commit murder on their behalf simply because they want him to.
Is this their God, or their prison bitch?
Personally I would not spend a great deal of time worshiping a deity that could be so easily manipulated, nor one lacking any recognizable moral compass. Remember THIS is from who Christians believe they get the commandments which dictate how they are to live their lives.
How long do we have to wait before Christians, or even members of the Republican party, speak out against this kind of hate speech? How long?
Update: I apologize, when I posted this I left off part of Psalm 109.8 which was not contained in the e-mail, but which such a good Christian as House Speaker O'Neal must surely know. It went as follows:
9 Let his children be fatherless,and his wife a widow.
10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg:
let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
THAT is what is contained in Psalm 109.8, and perhaps that helps to explain my outrage.
“How long do we have to wait before Christians, or even members of the Republican party, speak out against this kind of hate speech?”
ReplyDeleteIt is who they ARE.
Fuck them!
Romney made a huge gaffe today. In a speech today, he said:
ReplyDelete"I like to fire people"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#45929548
A gift for ads!!
Don't care what anyone says this should be Treasonous!
ReplyDeleteSo if our President is re-elected, and their candidate loses - then God is not on their side?
ReplyDeleteI'd rather believe it is the Christians who believe this nonsense that THEY are not on God's side.
As a Christian I find this man totally repulsive. The so called Republican Christians are the biggest hypocrites I have ever seen.
ReplyDeleteWhat a jackass! I actually have seen that bumper sticker, but I do not own a Bible and figured I didn't want to know. When I see the jerks driving the vehicles,I could surmise that it had to be something like this.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree, Gryphen...the whole concept of this king of loving, caring "God" is beyond me.
I abhor that Tebow jerk for this reason. We just lost a beautiful little 7 year old girl in this area who suffered a horribly painful cancer death. What kind of "God" would worry about who wins a "game" played by millionaires, but lets a child suffer so?
O/T ... oh happy day!
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I am sad for my christian friends who can only sit in horror as their religious beliefs are hijacked over and over again.
ReplyDeleteThis guy feels safe giving public voice to his hatred. Sarah Palin's speeches were like a drug for guys like this.
ReplyDeleteEVIL, to the core. .Another hateful evil Repub.
ReplyDeleteIt's a little like what happens when a million monkeys play on typewriters, if you search the bible long enough, you can find just about anything to justify what you want. I remember when I was in grade school it was popular to combine:
ReplyDelete"Judas went and hanged himself." with "Go thou and do likewise."
These so called Republican Christians cherry pick passages out of the Bible and use them to wish death on someone and when challenged, their out is simply to say that they were just quoting the Bible. Truly disgusting.
ReplyDeleteI'm so glad I am not a christian. Just watching and listening to all these Republican who profess to be christians - do nothing more than make me sick to my stomach and be even more thankful that President Obama is running our country. He is so kind, polite and respectful of others - something they assuredly are not!
ReplyDeleteWe are speaking out. Some people are not listening.
ReplyDeleteIn fact there are Christians on this blog who are speaking out against this stuff. Are we heard here? No.
ReplyDeleteMaybe someone should do the same for this horrible creature and the rest of the Republicans who believe this way.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of weird Republican beliefs and practices, see this...
ReplyDeletehttp://freethoughtblogs.com/rockbeyondbelief/2012/01/02/400-crazy-rednecks-shoot-guns-to-scare-away-the-tree-witches-insane-footage/
good god?!? that's always been my question of "christians". you gonna waste that prayer on a game? money? not world peace? starving orphans? continent of africa?
ReplyDeleteyour petty wish for the day is really what you want your sky wizard (in case that day someone listens)
REALLY....
I don't get it...never have...
I will say with some reservation that the headlines you have come out with of late are rather misleading and disturbing...
ReplyDeletewhile I would like to believe them, I can't after reading the posts that follow...
I have been a long time reader of this blog and a sometimes commenter...
Am a leftie for sure and despise what the repugs are doing to our congress...
But I am centrist enough to be appalled by some of your sensational grabs for attention of late...
The headline of this post is a good example...
It's one thing to call them (the repugs) out on their blatant inconsistencies and outright lies, but it's another to twist words to match your view Jesse,
"let his days be few and brief" can be interpreted in more than one or two ways...
Those words are not much different than Mitch McConnell stating his goal in his term is to make President Obama a one term president..
I think you jumped over the frantic edge with this one in particular. Do I like what O neal said? NO... do I LIKE that other rethugs have made similar comments? NO. And I do not like that Democrats, leftists, progressives, whatever you want to call yourself or selves, are twisting words and their possible meanings to make a headline to gain more readership...
The meaning in Oneals email was not ALL that clear or cut and dry... "reading between the lines", ie making an assumption doesn't do "our side" much favor if you aren't spot on, and in this case I'm not convinced that you are.
I don't think Mr Oneal was being positive in any manner, but am not convinced either that he was calling for the death of our president.
Your headline is inflammatory with NOTHING to back it up, quit making us liberals look crazy, republican FOE NEWS crazy.
I generally agree with you but hells bells the comment was ambiguous enough to NOT go all death of Obama over.
Troll haters, quit now, cuz I am
NOT one. Just excercising my freedom of speech in a place that I generally really LIKE, but have an issue with the use of language in the headlines.
I'm just sayin tone down the flaming headlines when ya can't back em up, tends to discredit you.
Pointing out that you're speaking out, without actually SPEAKING OUT, doesn't count.
ReplyDeleteThis Old Testament hatred is exactly what Christ was a change from.
ReplyDeleteSo actually these folks are not Christ followers at all, they are worshipers of the teachings of the Old Testament.
They literally chose the dark side.
Psalms is not meant to be read as one sentence out of the whole. This is what it says:
ReplyDeleteDo not be silent, O God of my praise. 2 For wicked and deceitful mouths are opened against me, speaking against me with lying tongues. 3 They beset me with words of hate, and attack me without cause. 4 In return for my love they accuse me, even while I make prayer for them. 5 So they reward me evil for good, and hatred for my love. 6 They say, "Appoint a wicked man against him; let an accuser stand on his right. 7 When he is tried, let him be found guilty; let his prayer be counted as sin. 8 May his days be few; may another seize his position. 9 May his children be orphans, and his wife a widow. 10 May his children wander about and beg; may they be driven out of the ruins they inhabit. 11 May the creditor seize all that he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his toil. 12 May there be no one to do him a kindness, nor anyone to pity his orphaned children. 13 May his posterity be cut off; may his name be blotted out in the second generation. 14 May the iniquity of his father be remembered before the Lord, and do not let the sin of his mother be blotted out. 15 Let them be before the Lord continually, and may his memory be cut off from the earth. 16 For he did not remember to show kindness, but pursued the poor and needy and the brokenhearted to their death. 17 He loved to curse; let curses come on him. He did not like blessing; may it be far from him. 18 He clothed himself with cursing as his coat, may it soak into his body like water, like oil into his bones. 19 May it be like a garment that he wraps around himself, like a belt that he wears every day." 20 May that be the reward of my accusers from the Lord, of those who speak evil against my life. 21 But you, O Lord my Lord, act on my behalf for your name's sake; because your steadfast love is good, deliver me. 22 For I am poor and needy, and my heart is pierced within me. 23 I am gone like a shadow at evening; I am shaken off like a locust. 24 My knees are weak through fasting; my body has become gaunt. 25 I am an object of scorn to my accusers; when they see me, they shake their heads. 26 Help me, O Lord my God! Save me according to your steadfast love. 27 Let them know that this is your hand; you, O Lord, have done it. 28 Let them curse, but you will bless. Let my assailants be put to shame; may your servant be glad. 29 May my accusers be clothed with dishonor; may they be wrapped in their own shame as in a mantle. 30 With my mouth I will give great thanks to the Lord; I will praise him in the midst of the throng. 31 For he stands at the right hand of the needy, to save them from those who would condemn them to death.
If you read the entire thing, you realize that the part(s) used against President Obama are the words of "wicked and deceitful mouths." More nasty cherrypicking by evil fake Christians who indeed speak words with "wicked and deceitful mouths."
Imnofred, I want good Christians to point out that the passages used aren't just cherrypicked (same word I used in my first comment) but taken so out of context as to be blasphemous in my view, assuming I were a Christian instead of an atheist. You folks need to point this particular point out over and over, not just on liberal blogs, but on every Christian site you can find.
ReplyDeleteNo surprise. Recommend reading Thomas Franks "What's the Matter with Kansas: How the Conservatives Won the Heart of America."
ReplyDeletekey words: Brownback, Koch Bros., Boeing.
Frank has other books* out about conservative politics, which are worth reading if you're interested in understanding politics. Note too, Frank was born and raised in Kansas.
*The Wrecking Crew
Pity the Billionaire
as someone who, because of my work, has been targeted by people like this, I can state with assurance that imprecatory prayers are used in one context: death of an enemy. It is not invoking the Old Testament to hope that someone is not re-elected. This a-hole and anyone who defends the use of an imprecatory prayer are the absolute antithesis of a person of faith.
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ReplyDeleteIn fact there are Christians on this blog who are speaking out against this stuff. Are we heard here? No.
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For you my friend: The Christian Left
http://www.thechristianleft.org/gallery/gallery
The are on twitter, Facebook and have a website and they are sick and tired of these RWBullshit. Join them. I urge all Christians who are a"mad as hell" to join them.
Disclaimer. I'm not a Christian but I've begged many peeps who are to stand up against these 7 mountain dommioninist hypocrite fakers!
I am a Christian and this man does not speak for me. I very much disagree with Obamas policies which are harming America in my opinion, but I have to respect him and honor him as a child of God just like EVERYONE else. I am a Republican who works with the poor and tries to enable them to rise out of poverty with dignity not entitlements. I will not vote for Obama and look forward to bringing back some pride and exceptionalism to our country and will do what I can to state that those wackos do not speak for all Christians.
ReplyDeleteAnd "Liz:" Rather than offering your view on possible ambiguity in the words, do a little reading on imprecatory prayers, particularly this one. Knowledge is a wonderful thing.
ReplyDeleteLiz 4:23
ReplyDeleteTone it down
Not a fucking chance. With all the guns and ammo these flipping psychos have bought and stock piled. The guns they've carried to rallies of Obama's.
That quote IS MEANT TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT Gryphen posted in the title of this blog post.
You've been hiding under a rock if you haven't seen and read it. Google it and open your eyes.
Oh LIZ, what a self-righteous rant!
ReplyDeleteI think you protest MUCH too much.
Read the REST of Psalm 109, in complete context:
8 May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership.
9 May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.
10 May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes.
11 May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.
12 May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children.
13 May his descendants be cut off, their names blotted out from the next generation.
14 May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the LORD; may the sin of his mother never be blotted out.
15 May their sins always remain before the LORD, that he may blot out their name from the earth.
Go back to your fake Xtian cave.
When "douchebag" is too mild, I step up to "fuckwad". But even fuckwad is too good for that douchebag fuckwad Onesl. Finally, the conservatives have done it! They've caused me to run out of curses to assign their worthless carcasses. Don't worry.... I'll think if something!
ReplyDeleteThe person who wrote that this should be considered treasonous is right, in my view. In fact, it's almost blasphemous to deliberately distort Bible verses in this way.
ReplyDeleteYes, I'll speak out against it, as I have done repeatedly to anyone who will read or listen. It's hate speech, going by the name of "imprecatory prayer," as popularized by Peter J. Peters, (the evangelist/conspiracy nut) and other faux Christians. Sadly, people who used to be recognized as fringe idiots have almost become mainstream, thanks to the GOP.
G.K. Chesterton, the great English writer and philosopher, who converted from the Church of England to Roman Catholicism, made this observation: Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has never been tried.
What else would you expect from a pig but a grunt?
ReplyDeleteCan't say as I disagree with your outrage. I'm outraged by this also.
ReplyDeleteBut to your point that Christians think that God is sitting around, waiting for them to put in a request, I heard Rush say on his show that he wondered if God would be listening to the Steelers game (sorry, I forgot who the Steelers were playing), and if he WAS paying attention to the game, Rush wondered which team God would be rooting for.
Are we now at the point where some people think that God is paying attention to FOOTBALL??? Really?
(Sigh)
Sorry LIZ! Gryph is RIGHT ON...and Queen Bitch probably has voodoo dolls in her bedroom.
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ReplyDeleteThanks for posting the full text.
I remember the outrage on sites where they sell the t-shirts and stuff where many wrote and were successful in some cases having them remove the items with this text on it as it was clear what it was directed at.
Anyone who tries to defend he 'didn't mean it' is clearly living under a rock.
Ugh, this dude will probably be voting for Newt Gingrich. The GOP candidate that's all about family values, faith, and freedom fries.
ReplyDeleteThank-you for posting the entire rank. THis really needs to go viral, because it has been going around "those" circles for quite a while.
ReplyDeleteKansas Republican legislator blasts Speaker O’Neal
ReplyDeletehttp://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/09/kansas-republican-legislator-blasts-speaker-oneal/
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/jan/03/statehouse-live-speaker-oneal-forwards-anti-obama-/
Don't these spiritual morons realize that what harm you wish for another will come home to roost instead?
ReplyDeleteHeretics, the lot of them.
M from MD
What a coward this fucker is. Because if you're going to push such vile sentiments, you should at least have the courage of your convictions and say "Yeah, that's what I meant."
ReplyDeleteBut this POS is too afraid to do that.
Because he knows exactly what kind of outrage he'd get - even more than he is now. And he doesn't want to risk it. Yet HE has no problem calling for the death of a fellow human being and the destruction of his family.
Fucker.
Coward.
6:03, sad that I know this, but the Steelers were playing the Broncos, and Rush Limbaugh's comment was that he wondered if God would be for Roethlisberger or Tebow. It's actually the one thing Limbaugh has said in the last 20 years (since I've been old enough to know better, in other words!) that I agree with. The worst anyone can say about Tebow is that he's annoying, preachy, maybe naive. This is still far better than Roethlisberger, the accused rapist.
ReplyDeleteI posted the Limbaugh quote on my FB page after the Broncos won (I live in Colorado). But I added the caveat that it was a football game, not a moral competition, and I think God is concerned with bigger and more important things. The SNL spoof of Tebow, which I thought was borderline offensive, did do a great job pointing out the sad fact that many American so-called Christians pray a lot more about their sports than about world hunger, etc.
And we were taught in my high school that imprecatory prayer (although that term was not used) was absolutely biblical and appropriate. I don't even remember against whom our imprecatory prayers were targeted at that time, but this passage from the Psalms were given as an example. I am trying now to find my way back to Christianity, albeit a more liberal, compassionate form. I'll check out that Christian Left website someone posted.
I do not Claim to be a religious scholar. I am merely a person raised in the Presbyterian church. THat said as a Protestant, I am fed up with the "born again" Christians deciding who is a "Christian" and who is going to hell or not based on personal opinion or the OLD testament.
ReplyDeleteTO the best of my knowledge the Christian faith is grounded in the teachings of Jesus Christ recorded in what is commonly known as the "New Testament". The "Old Testemant" of the Holy Bible is a record of the teachings of the Jewish people PRIOR ro the birth of Christ.
How can a anyone claim to be a "BORN again CHRISTIAN" while advocating religious teachings that PRE DATE the birth of their personal Saviour Jesus Christ?
Just saying, this does not make any sense. And then use the same illogic to advocate racism and murder?
What would Jesus say?
Why I’m leaving the Republican Party…and Endorsing President Obama
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Gryphen, One small correction on the title:
ReplyDeleteStay KLASSY Kansas (as in Klansmen)!
This guy is suppose to be a CHRISTIAN???
ReplyDeleteWOW!....All I can say is....He's going to Hell!
What I really want to say...for once I will keep it to myself....you're welcome "benign comment" person.
Thanks, Sleuth 1, for posting it in context.
ReplyDeleteThe "righetous indignation" some Christians are tossing Gyrphen's way for this post is just sickening.
Gryphen didn't send this impecatory prayer in an e-mail, imho, Gryphen is being more virtuous, by far, by not going further. Everytime a post like this goes up, everyone's knee-jerk overreation is voiced from the highest mountaintop.
What "Entitlements" for the poor are people talking about? Dignity can get one only so far, when you're hungry and poor, dignity doesn't feed you. When you have no clothes and it's cold out and you have no home, dignity doesn't do much.
A society is judged by the way it treats the weakest among them. Health Care, Education, Food Stamps, welfare, and social security aren't a hand out, they're a hand up.
I'd rather be called a nasty liberal than a compassionate conservative anyday.
Hilarious!!
ReplyDeleteI watch Rachel Maddow online and the first segment (Can Huntsman make his mark....) -- the first statement out of Rachel's mouth was that 'Today, Todd Palin endorsed Newt Gingrich!!!!!"
Rachel rarely did segments on Palin so I found this hilarious -- so much so, I choked on the drink of soda I had taken!!
Liz at 4:23
ReplyDeleteI knew which verse had been used the minute I read the headline of this post. For over three years, that "prayer" has surfaced on blogs, on Facebook, on bumper stickers. A preacher in Arizona and a preacher in Texas both preached sermons on it - sermons that supported the "prayer". It's nothing new but it is still very disturbing.
While the "meaning of O'Neal's prayer" may not have been apparent to you, Liz, it was definitely apparent to me. I've gotten too many emails forwarded by "christian" friends that contain a reference to Psalm 109:8. It is and was a dog whistle to all of the "christians" out there who are familiar with it and who share the sentiment.
Gryphen, I appreciate you taking a stand on this. Your headline is on target.
When a guy in office shows his penis in a text...he is asked to resign in shame.
ReplyDeleteBut when a man in office prays for The President and or his family death and or torture, he is called a CHRISTIAN.
Please call the Secret Service.
ReplyDeleteAre these the same creeps that adulate and cheer on Tebow? Classy, indeed.
ReplyDeleteThe coward doesn't need to admit his intention. He made it perfectly clear that he meant the prayer to include the context of the Psalm when he wrote the directive:
ReplyDelete"Look it up — it is word for word! Let us all bow our heads and pray. Brothers and Sisters, can I get an AMEN?"
There should definitely be some head-bowing...in shame!
Check out the Sojourners for Christians who seek to follow Jesus.
http://www.sojo.net/
I can't even remember how many facebook friends I've unfriended for posting that psalm. Who needs assholes like that in their life!
ReplyDeleteThanks for adding the rest of the Psalm. What a coward that man is trying to backtrack on what he REALLY meant in his forwarded email.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, the media will be sure to not cover any Christians who do speak out against this filth, as the media has decided the rightwing monsters who are hiding behind the faith to look respectable are the authoratative speakers for the faith.
Anonymous 3:44 said..."I'm so glad I am not a christian. Just watching and listening to all these Republican who profess to be christians - do nothing more than make me sick to my stomach and be even more thankful that President Obama is running our country. He is so kind, polite and respectful of others - something they assuredly are not!"
ReplyDeleteWell, just remember, Barack Obama is a Christian. One who evidently takes Christ's teachings to heart, which is probably one reason why he is the kind, polite, and respectful one, and they are not, even if they claim to be Christians.
3:44 PM
LIZ, I totally respect your opinion, you have every right to express it, but I have to disagree with you that this post takes a sensationalistic view of what this Republican forwarded. Because as Gryphen pointed out, the quotes after the original quoted Psalm absolutely infer the original one is talking about a person's death.
ReplyDeleteOf course, it's possible he never actually reads the Bible so was totally ignorant of what that quote meant, which would still make him a typical rightwing fake Christian who never cracks open the very book he exorts everyone else to follow.
LIZ said...
ReplyDelete..."let his days be few and brief" can be interpreted in more than one or two ways...
...I think you jumped over the frantic edge with this one in particular. ...The meaning in Oneals email was not ALL that clear or cut and dry... "reading between the lines", ie making an assumption doesn't do "our side" much favor if you aren't spot on, and in this case I'm not convinced that you are...
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Sadly, Liz, this post is not exaggerating the meaning of this prayer. This has been around since the President was elected. It is called "imprecatory prayer", and yes indeed, many people use Psalm 109 to call for the death of the President.
http://www.politicususa.com/en/sergeant-prayer-obama
Many more examples are out there.
You wrote: How long do we have to wait before Christians, or even members of the Republican party, speak out against this kind of hate speech? How long?
ReplyDeleteReplace "Christians" with Muslims in that sentence, then "Islam" for Republican party -- sound familiar?
Christianists are terrorists.
@ LIZ --
ReplyDeleteUnderstand your criticism -- but it's the irrational people who take these cues to heart & act on them in their own ways -- violently. E.g., Tuscon redux...
These Biblical words justify anything. E.g., The Crusades...
Judging all Christians by the actions and words of a few self-righteous hypocrites is basically the same as me judging all Alaskans by the actions and words of the Palin clan. If you will promise to quit equating me to this Kansas Republican, I promise not to assume you are anything like Sarah.
ReplyDeleteThere is an old hymn that states, "They will know we are Christians by our love." That is how you can tell the true Christians from those who claim the name but do not walk the talk. True Christians are not praying imprecatory prayers or requesting wins in football games or on reality shows. Their prayers relate to healing the sick and providing comfort after disaster. Their prayers are for their leaders to be granted wisdom, not death. Their donations are to food pantries or to help Rwandan orphans, not to political parties. And they try to abide by the words of Jesus: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
Unfortunately, too many people try to recreate God in their own image, with their own petty views of the world. The true nature of God can not be pidgeon-holed in this way, but it doesn't keep them from trying.
This needs to be said again, because it is as important as the actual words used against our President. The phrases the anti-Obama fake Christians are cherry-picking are within the section that is in quotes. That is the section that the prayer says is from "wicked and deceitful mouths..." The fake Christians are so ignorant in their hate that most of them apparently don't realize that they are playing the part of the "wicked and deceitful mouths" instead of the good man asking for the protection and blessing of his Lord. When you see or hear this phrase used against our President, stand up and say to those who use it that they are the wicked and deceitful mouths and are going to fucking hell because of that.
ReplyDeleteBarbara Carlson said...
ReplyDeleteChristianists are terrorists.
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I like the term "christianists" for those who are busy pointing fingers at others for their alleged sins and inciting hatred, war, and bigotry. As opposed to real Christians (and there are many) who actually, you know, feed the hungry, care for the sick, comfort the dying, clothe the naked, etc.
"Not all those who say Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom, but only those who do the will of My Father."
I am going to be sure to use the term more often.
This makes me sick to my stomach!
ReplyDeleteThe Republican party is a sick, sick monster in the United States of America! I fear we are going to end up with mass harm being done within and to our population - by each other!
I also worry for our President and his family. President Obama is doing one hell of a good job in spite of the Republicans/obstructionists. He will have my vote AGAIN.
Anon 3:15. Romney's words are taken out of context. He clarified in the next sentence what he meant. Using the sound bite is political games 101.
ReplyDeleteIf they specified psalm 109.8 isn't that limited to the 8th verse and not 9 and ten you included? My bible skills are rusty so I may be wrong.
ReplyDeleteI love God, and I am a follower of Jesus' teachings.
ReplyDeleteAnd I abhor these hatemongers, like this preacher, and Palin.
I live in Fl. and this just came up on facebook. I hope God forgives you sir. You should be fired! Your kind of hateful thinking is why this country can't move forward with tolerance. Shame on you.
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