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| If any Obama or any other politician wants to run with the spirit of that ad, go for it." |
"I just want to say that the spin stops with you guys, and there is no spin in that ad. On this I am certain.
l am certainly not politically affiliated with Mr. Obama. It was meant to be a message about just about job growth and the spirit of America. I think all politicians will agree with it. I thought the spirit was OK.
I am not supporting any politician at this time.
Chrysler to their credit didn’t even have cars in the ad.
Anything they gave me for it went for charity.
If any Obama or any other politician wants to run with the spirit of that ad, go for it."
Okay I buy that, but I think it STILL came off as supporting Obama's bailout of the auto industry.
And I am not alone, apparently Turdblossom feels the same way:
"I was, frankly, offended by it," Rove said on Fox News Monday. "I'm a huge fan of Clint Eastwood, I thought it was an extremely well-done ad, but it is a sign of what happens when you have Chicago-style politics, and the President of the United States and his political minions are, in essence, using our tax dollars to buy corporate advertising and the best-wishes of the management which is benefited by getting a bunch of our money that they'll never pay back."
Seriously? The REPUBLICANS are upset that there might be a little quid pro quo between Chrysler and the Obama administration? Aren't they the ones who invented selling influence to big businesses?
After all what are those 4 billion dollars in subsidies to the oil companies, which the Republicans fight tooth and nail to retain, if not an insurance policy that the big energy companies will continue to finance the GOP reelection campaigns?
Okay so MAYBE Eastwood did not make a pro-Obama commercial. But you know what? It was close enough for me.
The Republicans are again on the wrong side of thinking Americans yet again.
ReplyDeleteBoy, those Repugs don't want the truth to get out, do they? Can't give the people hope and give a shout out to the American spirit and the concept of everyone working together. No, we can't have that! It would destroy their message of despair.
ReplyDeleteThe Republicans are afraid that there might be just a tiny bit of success of some kind anywhere which might be credited to the President. If that happens their dastardly plan to destroy America and blame it on Barack Hussein Obama will have FAILED.
ReplyDeleteEastwood, who is pro-choice and pro-marriage equality is just getting even for Reagan using his, "go ahead, make my day" line.
ReplyDeleteOkay, here's the thing, if GM was doing great and selling so many cars, then why did this ad have to happen? Why did they spend many hundreds of millions of dollars on ads during the SuperBowl? We bailed them out, they made 4 commercials to be shown during this game; at a cost of $2.7 million per thirty seconds. They spent upwards of 20 million bucks for their ads. A company that was bailed out (and yes mostly paid us back) spending that kind of money on ads seems like there might be a deeper problem and we might be asked to give them a leg up once again.
ReplyDeleteI see them perhaps struggling, even in the face of the bailout. I see Detroit as a harbinger of overpriced American goods that can't keep up with foreign competition.
A world economy is the only solution, one that does not pit country against country. We all need to ability to purchase the highest quality merchandise we can can afford and if GM can't cut the mustard then it's too bad. I really hope that America doesn't have to foot the bill for these commercials.
Would Karl Rove tell Eastwood to his face how offended he was by the Chrysler ad?
ReplyDeleteIf Obama didn't bailout the auto industry we would have had many more unemployed. The Repugs don't like this ad because Obama did save the auto industry.
ReplyDeleteI have two words for Karl Rove: FUCK YOU!
ReplyDelete@3:29 The ad was in support of Chrysler, not GM. Although GM seems to be doing very well, and I believe, has paid back the bulk of its loan from the government. And, has managed to employ several thousand workers, not just at its plants, but in the manufacturing industry which supplies GM with products such as foam, steel, electronics etc.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of whether or not Eastwood did the ad knowing that it might be perceived as helping the President with his message, I doubt very much that he wants anything to do with today's version of the GOP.
i'd like to see how Karl Rove looks at 80. It won't be pretty. It's not pretty now.
ReplyDeleteThe ad itself is politically innocuous. The reason behind the pro-Obama interpretation is that it's message flies in the face of the narrative that is currently being driven by the GOP - that the United States is failing.
ReplyDeleteSo basically in today's political climate, it is anti-Republican (and pro-Obama) to state that the United States is still a great nation, and that things are getting better. This fact lays bare the desire of the GOP to drive this country into the ditch on Obama's watch.
It disgusts me as an American that they are willing to allow the country to fail in order to win a political contest.
"Would Karl Rove tell Eastwood to his face how offended he was by the Chrysler ad?
ReplyDelete3:30 PM"
I think Ham Loaf probably fantasizes about being humiliated by Eastwood.
"Do you feel lucky, punk?"
"No sir. Please don't hurt me with that big gun! I promise to be a good Ham Loaf."
Heh heh... you can tell Clint Baby is a Repubican because he would never include the title 'President' when talking about President Obama.
ReplyDeleteOr ~ maybe... it's all an act :)
Anon @3:29--I don't know how you can have a world economy that does not pit country against country.
ReplyDeleteIt was a very well done ad. I don't see how any thinking person can see the ad and not remember the bailouts and who was against them (Romney).
Hey Gryphen! Baldy gave you a shoutout on RAM's Fakebook post today!
ReplyDeleteShe posted a ridiculous Happy Birthday to Ronald Reagan and she posted that picture of herself on horseback when she was at the Reagan Ranch last year...
You remember that speech...it was when Beefalo debut her new and godawful chin! And we got a look at what RAM looked like (shudder).
Maybe your post from yesterday inspired her!
You so own that bald headed hick!
Congrats buddy!
Here's the link for those who have the need to vomit!
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150540360408435
To 3:29: GM is now the biggest car seller in China, and China has tens of millions of potential car buyers. It is the favorite luxury model among all luxury cars sold there. I think most Americans are ignorant of how popular American cars are in other countries and the degree to which the quality of Japanese cars has deteriorated over the past few years. If we can compete in China, we can compete elsewhere. The Super Bowl was the best single opportunity for any American car manufacturer to get the message out there that, 'yes, we can' (compete).
ReplyDeletehttp://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/01/buick-excelle-is-chinas-best-selling-car-in-2011.html
IMO, the animus against the auto industry was really nothing more than an anti-union effort wearing a different garb. After all, none of the squealers against helping GM or Chrysler were saying a word about bailing out the banks – even though GM and Chrysler created jobs and the banks, by destroying the housing market and crashing the stock market, actually destroyed jobs. Different rules once again, for the very rich and for all the rest of us.
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/01/buick-excelle-is-best-selling-car-in.html
the spin doctors are hurting my head today. according to usatoday, chrysler paid back all but 1.3 billion early. i'm not sure why 1.3 billion was not paid back
ReplyDeletehttp://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2011-06-03-chrysler-bailout-government_n.htm
just scanned the last little bit and apparently, government owns the rest of the amount in stocks, but is not going to sell them off anytime soon. so why would rove, a dc regular (he should know politics, right? read the paper?) not know that gm paid back their bailout early? why would he insinuate that they mooched on their deal and is spending willy nilly? if someone can explain, i would appreciate it.
3:29 - Such words of wisdom from someone who thinks 20 is the equivalent of "many hundreds".
ReplyDeleteAn out-of-place question, but am I the only one who can't get to comments after the first 200, even though the post shows > 200 comments? The "show newer posts" button seems to have disappeared(?) I've tried accessing the site from three different browsers. What am I missing?
ReplyDelete(I would post this in the recent thread with >200 comments...but I'd never see the answer!)
Clint…don’t…back…down. You can eat Turd Blossom’s lunch any day of the year. Don’t let this Right Wing Slime Machine end your illustrious and unparalleled career! They are undeserving of anything but scorn.
ReplyDeleteI don’t know Eastwood, but could any friendly person pass these thoughts to him?
Go to Hell, Republican obstructionists! The more you talk, the more I donate to Democrats.
ReplyDeleteSigned,
A former Republican, from Detroit
clint loves sarah
ReplyDeleteIf Rove was offended by it....can we see it over and over again.....can we..can we.....
ReplyDelete3:29 pm. Had the US auto industry collapsed, this country would have suffered an economic depression from which it might never have recovered. The auto industry is not just the Big Three, it's auto suppliers all over the country. It's every big box store and every supermarket where people whose work, one way or another, depends on income from every segment of the auto industry. I'm from Michigan and I've seen the devastation that 8 years of Bush economics did to the auto industry before President Obama took office in January 2009. Our son's house value plummeted by 1/3.
ReplyDeleteRemember back during the oil crisis of the first Bush Administration when the Republicans pushed a bill to give a tax credit to people buying Hummers (gas guzzlers) for their businesses? What President Obama did made good economic sense and saved this country. Now it's up to GM and Chrysler to produce products that are worthy of our trust. I think that they can.
Eastwood has said he is 'not a fan' of Obama. I take him at his word that this was meant as a pick-me-up for the country and not a political ad, per se. I think the irony that Republicans were so instantaneously offended by a pro-American middle class worker ad, though, is rich indeed.
ReplyDelete"Chrysler to their credit didn’t even have cars in the ad.
ReplyDeleteAnything they gave me for it went for charity."
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Did you hear that $carah Payme Paylin? Mr. Eastwood dontated his earnings from the ad to CHARITY.
Why don't you double what Eastwood donated and give to a reputable charity? No, not the Paylin Constant Hand-out Gimme Gimme Gimme Charity.
Say, how about donating to a Down Syndrome Charity - you know in honour of the son that you did not give birth to.
@4:14 PM wyandotte said...
ReplyDeletejust scanned the last little bit and apparently, government owns the rest of the amount in stocks, but is not going to sell them off anytime soon. so why would rove, a dc regular (he should know politics, right? read the paper?) not know that gm paid back their bailout early? why would he insinuate that they mooched on their deal and is spending willy nilly? if someone can explain, i would appreciate it.
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I can answer your question. The R's will do anything, including bringing the country down, to be in power. Lie, cheat, steal is their mantra. They have no shame.
Well, well, well...the Rethugs have stepped in it again. It was a positive and wonderful ad and all they saw was dirty politics. They should know all about that. All they can do is project. I find this situation hilarious!
ReplyDeleteLet's Stay Together!
Obama 2012
Alicat
@3:53 PM Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI think Ham Loaf probably fantasizes about being humiliated by Eastwood.
"Do you feel lucky, punk?"
"No sir. Please don't hurt me with that big gun! I promise to be a good Ham Loaf."
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I love the Ham Loaf! It looks EXACTLY like him. Bwahahahah!
Alicat
sarah is on Greta again..this blog owns her..changed her hair, got rid of the weeds and dog sled and turned down the fire!!!
ReplyDeleteAfter the dirty tactics Rove used to get W into office, he should shut up and get out of the public sight. He is a disgusting person, who stoops really low to get what HE wants.
ReplyDeleteTOTALLY O/T
ReplyDeleteI was just thinkin'...
If Sarah Palin kept her pregnancy with Tri-G a secret until she was 6 MONTHS pregnant, then who was telling her to abort her pregnancy?
Are people in her circle pro-choice or, upon discovery, did they know ahead of time what kind of mother Palin would be and advised her to do the kid a favor?
Just thoughts...
Congressional Republicans clearly feel that doing something about job growth is not their responsibility.
ReplyDeleteaahhh...Gryphen, you sure know how to get to me :)...my first and last celeb crush has been Clint Eastwood....It was a hard thing ( no pun intended) for my future hubby to live up to.
ReplyDeleteThe republicans, with Rove now as their spokesperson, are offended by any popular person saying publicly that we should work together as a nation. Their offense, coupled with their bullying to enforce it, is an admission by conduct that they do not believe in working together with anyone, ever, on any constructive project, but only in yapping on the sidelines with ongoing negativity, and playing 'I'm better than you'. That republicans now view what used to be called civic duty and cooperation in a negative light shows just how far the GOP has fallen. Rove's school-yard level of response made the whole situation look even worse for republicans than it did originally. Once again, the republicans see boogeymen where none are present, thus making themselves looking all the more paranoid and delusional – and proving by their own conduct the correctness of their opponents' view/position.
ReplyDelete@4:56 - clint no longer loves sarah, not for a long time.
ReplyDeleteLORDY LORDY I NEED A 40!
ReplyDeleteJust watched Baldy on Greta "VanCrookedFace" and the woman looks half dead! WAAAAY to much eye makeup on....she looked like a RACOON! I guess Beefalo is on strike...because Baldy was wearing her straight wig with the bangs in her face...but the ends were chopped off and you could see two different colors!
I can't figure out WTF she was wearing...it looked like she got her jacket from the Janet Jackson "Rhythm Nation" Collection! It was some kind of vomit green and it had the military buttons, with boxy shoulder pads...but since Baldy probably weighs a buck oh five and she has that lollipop head thing going on (big head, stick body) she looked like a little kid wearing her mama's clothes!
Her Manny Tranny face is getting worse! She's doing so much Meth/Crack/Redbulls(??) that all that weight loss is making her NOSE look HUGE! She's going to need another nose job soon!
Hopefully when she gets her nose fixed they'll take some fat from her head and make her a top lip!
Oh and her smile was on the frizz again...but the maniacal smile did make an appearance when Greta brought up President Obama and she started wiggling in her chair in excitement while bashing the President!
She had the flames of hell going in the background and she's replaced that other raggedy vase with a new one...it's red and had some dried up looking fake twigs and flowers sprouting out of it...the flag was peeping out like it was afraid it would catch on fire if it got to close to Baldy...she looked like she has dragon breath!
The interview was less than 10 minutes and Greta didn't look pleased! At one point I did think the camera would pull back and we would see Roger Ailes standing there wheezing and holding up a pistol to Greta's head because her mouth was even more twisted than usual!
At the end of the interview Greta mentioned that Baldy would be giving the Keynote screech at CPAC and Baldy looked like she was going to throw up...but then Greta hurried up and ended it by thanking her...so she didn't have to respond!
If you're wondering why I haven't mentioned what she actually said in the interview...it's because she said the same damn shit she said last week and the week before that and so on and so forth!
One more thing...Beefalo, Wallow, and RAM...ya'll need to do an intervention! Baldy does not look good! She looks like Demi Moore....before she went to REHAB!
It was perfect that it was a Super Bowl ad since such a wide audience saw it. It does not matter what the Repubs say. American viewers hopefully know the DNC doesn't have the bucks to buy 2 minute Super Bowl ads. Turdblossom offended? HA! That's rich.
ReplyDeleteGina..she did look like the walking dead, maybe she's going for the Elvia look. I thought the same thing about the Janet Jackson puke green jacket with the military buttons..where does she find these clothes??
ReplyDeleteUm, OK, but what about this Karl?
ReplyDeleteChrysler Pays Back Rescue Loan
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DETROIT — Chrysler paid back on Tuesday $7.6 billion in loans from the American and Canadian governments, paving the way for its Italian partner, Fiat, to increase its control over the Detroit carmaker.
This was last year, dumbass...Chrysler REPAID the loans. They are hiring people again. This was a success!
Of course, Fox and you will NEVER admit Obama is smart, so you have to lie, and lie, and lie.
Thank you SO much for the $arah on Greta (yuck) report!
ReplyDeleteYour posts are thingies of beauty.
So anyone who makes a commercial saying something positive about America, is making a pro-Obama commercial? Sounds about right to me!
ReplyDeleteObama 2012!
Still laughing at the horribly misinformed concern troll @ 3:29. I see several posters have already set her straight. Good job guys. You gotta love how much this ad has repubs panties in a wad! If Karl Rove is wee-wee'd up then I'm happy!
ReplyDeleteFrom all indications Eastwood is a no bullshit tolerated kind of guy. Didn't he get elected mayor of the small town he lives in some years back?. I'm pretty sure he's libertarian. I loved the Eastwood commercial and thought it played off the chrysler commercial from the 2011 superbowl.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EbLkmDi5_M
Eastwood is a Republican from way back (1951), voted all Republican over the past thirty years except for Ross Perot. He and Reagan were tight. George H.W. Bush wanted him to run as his VP. Voted for Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1952 and 1956, Richard Nixon in 1968 and 1972, Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984, Ross Perot in 1992, and John McCain in 2008. Not exactly a flaming Liberal Democrat. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000142/bio; He now describes himself as Libertarian. http://www.ranker.com/list/actors-republican-actor-and-conservative-actors-list/famous-conservatives; http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/40-celebrities-who-are-republicans
ReplyDeleteWhat's really great is he is putting America before politics. Clint from what I am told is a republican who has yet to vote Democrat.
ReplyDeleteNow for him to say anyone can use it if they so choose says a whole lot about where his priorities are..
Many in the GOP don't like President Obama more than they love the country.
Last week it was "don't care about the poor and now this..
Karl Rove is such a disgusting POS. The Republican hypocrisy of it all makes my head want to explode. He's complaining about a 2-minute commercial while they have a 24-hour propaganda machine called Fox News. WTF???
ReplyDelete--Melanmoney (a proud former Detroiter who's father worked for Chrysler for 40+ years)
Republicans were outraged at what they considered a corporate ad for Obama’s campaign — and a high-profile endorsement of his $12.5 billion taxpayer-funded auto industry bailout.
ReplyDelete“I was, frankly, offended by it,” President George W. Bush’s political guru Karl Rove told Fox News Monday.
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BOY !!! If that isn't the 'pot' calling the 'kettle' black !!
So I guess 'corporations are people too' only applies when it benefits the Republicans ?!?!?
Anon @ 6:20 - To make your point even stronger, she said in one of her folksy screeches that it was 7 months and she did 'just to see how long she could do it'. Sure thing Palin, no one in the family would notice cranky moods, weight gain, doctor appts, swollen feet, prenatal vitamins on the counter, etc. And if the 'oh so close' family wouldn't notice, how could we expect her co-workers to notice she was 'with child'???
ReplyDeleteIt's enough that she's such a delusional bitch, but a lying one too!
Oh dear, poor Rove...facts are annoying aren't they:
ReplyDeletehttp://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/06/its-halftime-in-america/?hp
"A world economy is the only solution, one that does not pit country against country."
ReplyDeleteOkay fuckwit, you go to India and see how almost all of the people live. A winger pal of mine got back from there and has changed her tune, which used to sound remarkably like yours. She now appreciates the safety net that helps those who cannot help themselves, the unions that keep jobs in the USA, and the work that progressive political people are doing to try and make the USA strong internally after nearly being destroyed by the regressives (GOP in case you didn't know). She saw first hand what a third world country is like, the halves in huge houses with dozens of servants, and the have-nots in hovels.
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ReplyDeleteAn out-of-place question, but am I the only one who can't get to comments after the first 200, even though the post shows > 200 comments? The "show newer posts" button seems to have disappeared(?) I've tried accessing the site from three different browsers. What am I missing?
(I would post this in the recent thread with >200 comments...but I'd never see the answer!)
4:25 PM
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No, you are not the only one, others have noticed. The only work-around I (and others) have found is to be sure on the main page, to click on the title of the post, and then only that post will show with all of its comments available on the same page, along with being able to click for comments over 200. I hope Gryphen can figure out what is wrong with the separate comments page.
Isn't this the beauty of the Free Market? They can use their money and resources to influence policy or support a politician? Isn't Chrysler a person too?
ReplyDeleteDidn't George W. Bush use public money and his Administrators to influence the media to support NCLBA? And two decade long costly wars?
Didn't Freddie Mac use their congressional charter to leverage their portfolio by betting against homeowners? Didn't Newt Gingrich profit from both Fannie and Freddie by providing "history" lessons?
Karl, shut the fuck up.
He is a disgusting person, who stoops really low to get what HE wants.
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Snakes can't stoop, seeing as how they already crawl on their bellies.You have to realize, An ant's belly looks like a cloud to Karl.
The Republicans are really upset because the inspiration of the advert is what Obama is all about, and it shows right through Eastwood's words, even though Eastwood's intent was not to be political, and that is the truth!!!
ReplyDeleteThe Republicans are upset because the inspiration in this advert is what Obama is all about. It shines through, even though Eastwood was not trying to be political. Very revealing on many levels.
ReplyDeleteSounds like the Republicans are mad that a commercial was made telling the truth about the car industry coming back. Everyone knows that the President helped achieve this. The Repubs have worked so hard to keep the truth out of the media, and now this. Sheesh! Can't a repub catch a break? Hopefully not.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous@4:25 PM - Yes it happens to me,too. Not sure why it changed, but I am able to access the comments beyond the 1st 200 by clicking on the "Link to this post" thing at the bottom of the post, to the left. Otherwise, I think if you just click the title of the post itself you'll get the same result! Good luck!
ReplyDeleteIt's ok. Eastwood is iconic anyway! Love his acting. So damn Cool in all.
ReplyDeleteJUST STOP IT, GRYPHEN!!
ReplyDeleteWhy are you criticizing Karl Rove when you don't actually know him? You haven't walked a mile in his moccasins! You don't know what's behind the comments he makes! Maybe he has a mental illness, or a brain tumor or anger against the gods for making him a fat, bald, semi-closeted knee-jerk right-wing attack dog or guilt over helping a grinning idiot like Shrub destroy this country. The point is YOU have no right to say unkind things about him!! JUST CUT IT OUT NOW!!
Stop bashing douchebags you don't know personally!
I think Eastwood did this commercial because he made a lot of auto industry friends when he made "Gran Torino" and a lot of feelings are being hurt over the renewed GOP attacks on the bailout. Residents of Detroit and environs are starting to feel better about their circumstances, and last year's Chrysler ad pumped up so many Detroit and Michigan natives it's not even funny. So I don't think Eastwood intended this as political, exactly, more as a love note to the American dream that the Big Three played such a big part in making come true and hopefully will be able to again.
ReplyDeleteOOOOOOOOH the HUMANITY!!!!!
ReplyDelete3:29 has his panties in a wad, his stockings wee wee'ed up because American Car Companies had ****gasp**** COMMERCIALS on the Super Bowl! (Commercials, you will notice, start with the same ominous letters as Communism)
The first rule of marketing is "You have to spend money to make money", if they could afford it, more power to them! Do we know how many cars they'll sell, let alone the name recognition? How many more jobs they'll be able to create right here in the USA, assembling American Cars with less than 50 percent foreign parts and materials?
Clint's commercial, especially, will go down in history much like the original Apple ad for "Mac" computers, it was THAT GOOD.
And even better, it reflects President Obama's major accomplishment of saving the industry, intended or not.
No wonder Carl Rove, Cheeto Bohner man, the Ken Doll Candidate and Republithugs are so pissed off, they got nothing on President Obama.
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Thanks, Gina, for re-capping Baldy's squawkings on Greta Van Mush Mouth! I always love your comments and snark!