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I've seen several articles mentioning your name as a possible running mate for John McCain this election year. I was completely opposed to Hilary getting the nomination, so I'm glad that she didn't get the nomination, but I firmly believe this country is going to vote for a white man over a black man, regardless of the change policies Obama is marketing, and regardless of John McCain's qualifications.
It is almost like racists have a certain sixth sense about who is one of their own, don'tcha think?
Also keep in mind that this was less than a month and a half after Palin supposedly gave birth to Trig.
P.S. Thanks for all of the links to interesting e-mails you all have sent me. I am just now starting to work my way through them. So far the most fascinating part are the redactions, and where they show up.
Update: Here is another very interesting e-mail from ADN reporter Lisa Demer (She was the one who dogged Palin about the rumors that Trig was not her son, until Pat Dougherty pulled her off the story after Palin threw a fit.) about Palin's financial disclosures back in March of 2009.
From: Demer, Lisa
To: Leighow, Sharon W (GOV)
Sent: Thu Mar 19 19:34:29 2009
Subject: Financial Disclosure
Hi Sharon, We’re planning to do a story on Friday about Gov. Palin’s financial disclosure, maybe as part of the ethics story but more likely as a separate story. Would it be possible to talk with the governor about it?
The main questions, at this point, are:
- Why does she have a debt for legal bills to begin with? I know the state contracted with Tom Van Flein initially to represent the governor and some of her staff in Troopergate. How and why did that become the governor’s personal responsibility? Did that surprise her?
- How much is the debt precisely?
- How does she intend to pay it? Does she have liabilty insurance to cover that?
- Why didn’t she list any tax obligation to the IRS, since she has to pay taxes on the per diem?
- Why not list debt to the state for children’s travel?
- I remember reading that Bristol had gotten boxes and boxes of baby gifts, delivered to the family’s home. Why weren’t those listed?
- What does the governor intend to do with the uncashed checks? Will any be sent to SarahPac? - On gifts, what does "estimate - for distribution" mean?
- Which pair of glasses were a gift? When did the governor wear them? ( any public appearance?)
- Regarding campaign spending, is the total for children’s travel $17,937 and for Todd $16,741? It wasn’t quite clear whether Todd’s was included in the $17,937 or in addition to it. Thanks much, Lisa Demer
This line of questioning seems to throw the Palin camp into a mild panic and almost everything that they discuss about complying with Demer is redacted.
It also doesn't appear that they provided Demer with the information she asked for, as this was the story that appeared on Friday March 20, under her byline.
I don't believe that some of Demer's questions, like proof that the ethics charges created huge financial bills for her, have EVER been backed up with any data.
This is like saying Obama is responsible for the rise in welfare and food stamps. Can it really be concluded?
ReplyDeleteRegarding the emails:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.documentcloud.org/documents/309651-pra-gspo2-privilege-log-all-redact.html
Log of redactions. Who produced this document?
I have to say that I think that "divorce" e-mail was a joke. She uses "marital problems" in quotes, seeming to reference rumors of some sort. Frank responds that it's funny.
ReplyDeleteETA, I did the same thing once when the office rumor mill had me having an affair with one of the VPs. He was a friend and we had gone for a drink. So I e-mailed him to say, "hey, did you know we're having an affiar?"
It's like saying he's confident that everybody has a white sheet in their closet, and in the privacy of the voting booth, they'll vote white first no matter what.
ReplyDeleteThe anti gay marriage bills (like Prop 8 in California) are from the same playbook. In the privacy of the booth, anybody can be a homophobe and get away with it.
Palin files ethics complaint against self in 'troopergate'
ReplyDeleteRead more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2008/09/03/51592/palin-files-ethics-complaint-against.html#storylink=cpy
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/13/nation/na-palin-book13
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/67969-mccain-palin-legal-bill-was-for-troopergate
What the Anchorage Daily News has had to say on Palin
ReplyDeleteRead more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2008/09/03/51607/what-the-anchorage-daily-news.html#storylink=cpy
In a Sept. 26, 2007, email to Kris Perry & husband Todd, titled "Marital Problems," Palin writes: "So speaking of... If we, er, when we get a divorce, does that quell "conflict of interest"
ReplyDeletehttp://gop12.thehill.com/2012/02/palin-asked-about-divorce-in-2007.html
The interesting thing about Bristol is, she realized right after Tripp was born that babysitting the neighbors kids and having younger siblings does not equate to having your own baby. A baby is with you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. No wonder Tripp has a great relationship with Todd. It appears Todd raised him half the time in infancy.
ReplyDeleteAll us older siblings know all that.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteI have to say that I think that "divorce" e-mail was a joke. She uses "marital problems" in quotes, seeming to reference rumors of some sort. Frank responds that it's funny.
ETA, I did the same thing once when the office rumor mill had me having an affair with one of the VPs. He was a friend and we had gone for a drink. So I e-mailed him to say, "hey, did you know we're having an affiar?"
7:22 AM
"I have to say that I think that"...you are full of SHIT!
It's all over HP that Baldy talked about "divorce"! Not to mention the attacks on Gryphen after he posted that Baldy and the Toad were "DIVORCING"!
You can't get around that shit....so nobody gives a flying fuck about you and your bullshit "affair with one of the VPs".
Baldy is cold busted and it's in writing...she was a complete and total fuck up as a Mayor, Governor, Mother, Wife and VP candidate! So fuck off troll!!
O/T - Bill Maher Live Stand Up Show
ReplyDeleteShould anyone need a break from the emails - here is link to the video of Bill Maher's 'Crazy Stupid Politics' live stand up show that streamed on Yahoo last night. It's an hour long:
http://screen.yahoo.com/crazystupidpolitics/
It once again proves that racists are republican, note please that I did not say that all republicans are racists. Though most sane conservatives that I know will be voting for president Obama in Nov, I almost feel sorry for them that they had to abandon their political party because it has been taken over by raicst extremists.
ReplyDeleteSo, the more I read, it really is apparent that:
ReplyDeleteA. Bristol spent little time in Wasilla during summer 2008. And knowing how she pushed the Johnstons away (even when she was never close to them), it's really sad the RNC completely concocted her BS engagement.
B. You really cannot make any of the typical blog assertions when looking at these emails.
O/T Bill Maher is hysterical in this special he just did. If you didn't catch him, here's the show...he rips Sarah and Michele and Newt and Mittens and ...oh, just watch it:
ReplyDeletehttp://screen.yahoo.com/crazystupidpolitics/
anon at 7:22
ReplyDeleteNo mater how many times you post the same drivel it doesn't change the facts that the Palin's do not have a good marriage. In a good marriage , husbands do not spend time with prostitutes.
Opps...got so distracted by the troll droppings in aisle 7:22AM I forgot to comment on Baldy's being a member of the KKK!
ReplyDeleteOf course Baldy attracts the racist...it's too bad(NOT) that the racist may not be so enthralled with Reporter Baldy and her "relations" with a fine specimen of a BLACK man named Glen Rice back when her wonky eye wasn't rolling around as much in that giant head of hers as it is now!
Jungle Fever is frowned upon by that group! LOL!!
Satan Speaks to Santorum - and Has Some Words For Sarah Palin, Too
ReplyDelete...Wait. Did Sarah Palin say that my name is nothing more than "terminology"? Get thee to a United Church of Christ! That's liberal-hippie talk!
And excuse me, but "wee-weed up"? "Lame-stream"? Name-calling and scatological references are a great road to go down ... that is, if you're headed my way! But to we men of wealth and taste, it does sound a bit ... well, juvenile.
My marketing strategy's been public knowledge for thousands of years, so how could you get it so wrong? I've got seven closers that work like a charm: Sloth, pride, anger, gluttony, greed, lust, and envy. And I've got benchmarks for tracking my prospects that would make most sales managers green with envy. The Competition calls 'em Commandments. I call them "barriers to sale."
As for those commandments -- well, I think "not bearing false witness" is pretty high up on the list, don't you? So why are you accusing your opponent of using "false theology"? And who's the Nazi in that analogy of yours?
But I gotta say: When you say that "mainline Protestantism" is "gone from the world of Christianity" ... well, you're making my work easy for me. But why are you just implying that the president isn't Christian? I'm with Crazy Preacher Dude: Don't wimp out now! Say he's a heretic and Muslim, and all those mainstream Christians are too! In fact, burn 'em at the stake while you're at it!
With all this Muslim-baiting, have you forgotten the meaning behind the story of the Good Samaritan? I sure hope so.
But I'm still disappointed that you and the Demi-Governor would deny me. Me! The one you called the "Father of Lies." Do you deny now that we're fighting a"spiritual war"? Because we are -- but it's a war for the heart, not the ballot box. And it's on, man, it's on!
In fact, it's always on. It's perpetually being fought -- in the dark, in the quiet, in the lonely and secret spaces. It's always being fought, one-on-one, by a soul who's alone in the emptiness with me.
And you know me: I'm the Whisperer. I'm the voice that tells humans to do evil. I'm the vanity that makes you all want to be on television, the pride that makes you think you can run a country. I'm the greed that makes people cheat and lie to get rich. And I'm the envy that makes you lie down with them so they'll buy ads for you to steal the attention you covet in others...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/satan-speaks-to-santorum_b_1298498.html?
ref=politics
@7:09
ReplyDeleteWhat? Must be a Palin response to deflect from the email in question with a word salad response. Nice try
The photo of McCain looks weird - reminds me of when Justin Timberlake had the dick in a box
ReplyDeleteThat smug look on her face in this pic makes me sick. This was during his concession speech if I remember correctly. She's thinking "it wasn't my fault we lost...look at the old man" Stupid bitch.
ReplyDelete@7:29
ReplyDeleteyes, Sarah's ethics complaint that she filed against herself cost more than all the other ethics complaints combined. Way to waste $$$!!!
This is like saying Obama is responsible for the rise in welfare and food stamps. Can it really be concluded?
ReplyDelete7:09 AM
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Again Sarah? "concluded"? I don't think that word means what you think it means. You're using it incorrectly. Please understand the meaning of a word before you use it or it just makes you look stupid. You should have learned this a long time ago.
I have to say that I think that "divorce" e-mail was a joke. She uses "marital problems" in quotes, seeming to reference rumors of some sort. Frank responds that it's funny.
ReplyDeleteETA, I did the same thing once when the office rumor mill had me having an affair with one of the VPs. He was a friend and we had gone for a drink. So I e-mailed him to say, "hey, did you know we're having an affiar?"
7:22 AM
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Ooh that divorce email really got you all wee-wee'd up huh Sarah? Don't get your granny panties in a wad. Everyone knows you and Todd don't have a happy marriage. You both cheated on each other.
The interesting thing about Bristol is, she realized right after Tripp was born that babysitting the neighbors kids and having younger siblings does not equate to having your own baby. A baby is with you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. No wonder Tripp has a great relationship with Todd. It appears Todd raised him half the time in infancy.
ReplyDeleteAll us older siblings know all that.
7:41 AM
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Hi Bristool! That's not interesting. What's interesting is how you named your son after Todd's prostitute. Now THAT is interesting.
Exclusive! Sarah and Todd Palin are Splitsville!
ReplyDeleteSaturday, August 01, 2009
Earlier this week one of my best sources claimed to have explosive new information for me.
It took all week for us to finally get together, but last night we finally sat down for an amazing conversation. And what I heard made my jaw drop.
According to my source Sarah is finished with Todd and has decided to end their marriage.
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2009/08/exclusive-sarah-and-todd-palin-are.html
The interesting thing about Bristol is, she realized right after Tripp was born that babysitting the neighbors kids and having younger siblings does not equate to having your own baby. A baby is with you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. No wonder Tripp has a great relationship with Todd. It appears Todd raised him half the time in infancy.
ReplyDeleteAll us older siblings know all that.
7:41 AM
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ummm what bristol? Your logic is baffling. You make no sense. Your thoughts are incoherent at best. WTF are you trying to say exactly?
Let's try to parse this:
Bristol realized raising her own kid is different from babysitting......OK got it, makes sense. Then you leap to "no wonder Tripp had a great relationship with Todd. It appears Todd raised him half the time in infancy." HUH????
Are you trying to say Sarah WASN'T there as much as Todd in your ultra passive aggressive way (i.e. naming Tripp after Shailey)? I believe that because you know she reads here. Seems like you and momma got some issues to work out but the comments section of IM isn't the best place for it.... LOL
GinaM, being crassly rude to people you do not agree with is something I expect from the hormone-fuelled posturing of spotty teens or members of the CofP and their ilk. Take your pick.
ReplyDeleteNot being a sheep I, like Anon 7.22, have no need to follow the herd. I see the email as being amenable to different interpretations, one of which is that it was not a serious statement of the relationship between Todd and Sarah.
None of us, including you GinaM, can be certain. This might come as a shock to you if it was a concept you were able to grasp.
Let's just see if you can start of with the concept of politeness.....?
8:02, that was during McCain's concession speech and was when he was trying to quiet his idiot supporters' boos when he congratulated Pres. (elect, then) Obama on his win. Sarah started laughing and then made that face when McCain said: "No, please no", in response to the booing. Showing her true colors, asshole that she is.
ReplyDeleteYes. Not a Palin fan here, but it's obviously a sarcastic reference to the omnipresent unfounded speculation which was - and probably still is - dogging them up there.
ReplyDeleteAlaska's a remote place with a small population (less than Austin, TX), so not surprisingly it has a pretty active gossip mill. Palin & her husband have served almost from the beginning of her public life as something like the Brangelina of the tundra for their state's hyperactive grapevine.
And the "er" Sarah stuck in that sentence was her tip-off to the people reading it that she was planting her tongue firmly in her cheek to convey her exasperation.
Ironically, if they'd gotten a dollar for every time a rumor surfaced they were breaking up, she & Todd could have pleaded nolo contendere to all the frivolous lawsuits filed by Democratic Party operatives to intimidate her, paid off all her lawyers with a triple bonus AND sent all their kids to Harvard for, er, the rest of their lives.
Anon 7:09, BROOKLYN! Lord girlfriend, get a grip!!! He wrote in plain English that it wasn't Sarah's fault. It is pretty sad that your posts can be identified SO quickly, no ???? This is fact darling. You are boring and obsessive and no one here cares what you have to say. Maybe you should spend your time elsewhere although you seem to enjoy annoying people here. Why is that ?
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to make a comment that the "divorce" email that Huffpost is quoting in their story just now--can be interpreted in two ways: either she really is thinking of getting a divorce, or she is mocking those who are claiming she is getting a divorce, in others words, it could be snark on her part.
ReplyDeleteJust thought I'd comment on that because we all know that thinks in print can many times be interpreted in more than one way. That's why the ;) was invented for texting.
Bottom line: the use of the word divorce in her email doesn't constitute proof that she was even thinking of divorce; she may have been snarking. Perhaps she should have said "divorce" in quotes.
I love this picture of Baldy and McShame! Baldy has her lips balled up to keep from crying!
ReplyDeleteRemember Baldy just KNEW she was going to be giving her "concessions" speech...but Schmidt...said NO!
She didn't care that they lost...she was already planning her "I so don't want to go back to Alaska" escape hatch!
QUITTER is written all over her mannish face!
Brooklyn wrote : " The interesting thing about Bristol is, she realized right after Tripp was born that babysitting the neighbors kids and having younger siblings does not equate to having your own baby. A baby is with you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. No wonder Tripp has a great relationship with Todd. It appears Todd raised him half the time in infancy.
ReplyDeleteAll us older siblings know all that."
WHO CARES AND WHAT THE H does it have to do with this post! And another post about her here too.
You need help. Really, you do. You are obsessed with Bristol. It is very odd.
From the days of Maryline Blackburn to present, I LOVE how black people continue to overshadow Queen Esther at every turn.
ReplyDeleteGina M. You need to calm down girl. If you read the email regarding the "divorce" you will see that Frank Bailey responds to it by saying - "that's funny." When I read that email, my immediate response to it was that she was making a joke. I think the Washington Post and Huffpo misinterpreted that one. Go read the full email. I know for a fact that the person who posted that comment is not a troll because she posted the exact same comment on another blog using her screen name. She has been a regular commentor on the blogs for years.
ReplyDeleteAnd I am not a troll either!
MSM isn't really even caring about this email drop. Proves her days as a newsmaker are seriously numbered.
ReplyDeleteNOw how is she going to turn this into a money making venture when no one is even caring?
8:24 AM
ReplyDeleteYAWN! You gotta do better than that! Unfortunately I am not able to understand your gibberish. If you are trying to confuse...you have succeeded!
Bill Maher's stand up show on yahoo was good!!!!
ReplyDeleteAnd I am not a troll either!
ReplyDelete8:48 AM
*in my don't give a shit voice*
Whatevah...
Simple Sarah doesn't just attract racists, but also religious bigots, misogynists, xenophobes, and anti-intellectuals, as well as jingoists. They see a kindred spirit in her because she both validates and appeals to their worst fears as well as their basest prejudices.
ReplyDeleteAlaska's a remote place with a small population (less than Austin, TX), so not surprisingly it has a pretty active gossip mill. Palin & her husband have served almost from the beginning of her public life as something like the Brangelina of the tundra for their state's hyperactive grapevine.
ReplyDelete8:32 AM
So much wrong with this....I hope you're being sarcastic....Baldy and the Toad as "the Brangelina of the tundra"...I mean REALLY??
And Alaska is NOT a remote place....I lived there for 10 years and I didn't have to dog mush to the grocery store! I lived in an actual house with lights and everything! The villages are remote...but not the cities of Fairbanks, Anchorage, Juneau, North Pole...and a few others I missed.
Boy, whoever is going into attack mode on posts that merely try to use critical thinking (yes, even in matters-Palin) is really in frothy over-drive.
ReplyDeleteWe don't know how Sarah was using the "divorce" comment, but it seems likely that it is snark.
(Although, divorce is probably something she would do if it gave her a political or financial advantage.)
Gina M. You need to calm down girl. If you read the email regarding the "divorce" you will see that Frank Bailey responds to it by saying - "that's funny." When I read that email, my immediate response to it was that she was making a joke. I think the Washington Post and Huffpo misinterpreted that one. Go read the full email. I know for a fact that the person who posted that comment is not a troll because she posted the exact same comment on another blog using her screen name. She has been a regular commentor on the blogs for years.
ReplyDeleteAnd I am not a troll either!
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Doesn't really matter if it's being misinterpreted by press. If Palin is dumb enough to put a "funny" comment like that in her email, she has to deal with the blowback even if it's not true.
Gina. What is your problem? Your posts are now getting as rude as Broiklyns or C for P. You are becoming more like Sarah every day. Can you just calm down and stop attacking people? It really does take away from your great humor and wit. Stop attacking everyone please!
ReplyDeleteAndrew Halcro needs to search these emails for "mat maid". There are plenty.
ReplyDeleteWhy weren't these "mat maid" emails released in the first dump? Many are from 2007. It's like they were deliberately withheld.
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ReplyDeleteUnfortunately I am not able to understand your gibberish. If you are trying to confuse...you have succeeded! says GinaM
ReplyDeleteYes, I was afraid of that, Gina. English isn't an easy language. Keep working on it. I know you can succeed.
BTW, in the interest of full disclosure I am one of those secular folks who indoctrinate the young in universities. My empathy for your intellectual difficulties is sincere, as is my faith in your ability to overcome them.
Gina M. - Irishgirl is not a troll. She has been on these blogs for far longer than you've been shooting your virtual mouth off.
ReplyDeletegina m,
ReplyDeleteyou might not "give a shit" about irish's response to you, but i do.
you're out of line attacking anyone who you don't agree with you.
you truly make folks like me and irish who've been following im and mudflats and other blogs since day one of the palin saga.
we're not all your enemies simply because we interpret an email differently. bailey did mention this very email in his book.
Oh My Gawd, have you seen Tawd?
ReplyDeleteSo, one of her e-mails indicate she was considering divorcing Tawd, huh?
You've been saying all the while--Tawd better winch every time a bus goes by!
What exactly was Palin talking about:
ReplyDelete"In a Sept. 26, 2007, email to Kris Perry and her husband Todd, titled "Marital Problems," Palin writes: "So speaking of... If we, er, when we get a divorce, does that quell "conflict of interest" accusations about BP?" Her husband was a former BP employee on the North Slope."
Was she being hit with ethics complaints at that time and thus was simply blowing off steam and said this out of frustration, wondering what it would take to get her critics off her back? Or was her marriage really in trouble? If so, when was Trig born?
I find it telling that the reporter gave the impression that Bristol gave birth to Trig, not Sarah.
ReplyDeleteAlisa and Irishgirl, please don't let it get to you.
ReplyDeleteI'm tired of it too. It's really had a negative effect here.
It's no different than Sarahs snark or Brooklyn the trolls.
It bothers a lot of us. For a laugh about it, see the Perils of Palins blog!
Was Sarah really born in Sandpoint, ID? Or was she born in Creston. British Columbia, Canada? Creston is 67 miles from Sandpoint and even less if you live north of Sandpoint.
ReplyDeleteSarah was allegedly born on February 11, 1964. At that time Sandpoint's hospital was little more than a shack. A bigger hospital was not built till later. Chuckie likely liked that Socialist Canadian free health care, also,too.
If Sarah was really born in Sandpoint, why isn't listed on the Town's website? It would be their claim to fame! Privacy Act would not apply as Sarah herself states she was born in Sandpoint.
http://www.cityofsandpoint.com/history.asp
Why is this important? Even if Sarah's parents are US citizens which would enable her to claim US citizenship despite being born in Canada, she would not meet the natural born criteria for being president or VP. Could this be one of the reasons why the McCain campaign was freaked out and had plans for her immediate removal if McCain had won? Just askin! I bet a lot of people in that part of Idaho were born in Creston! Has Sarah provided her birth certificate? Keep in mind that many towns will record one's birth in another town in your falimily lived in the town at the time of a birth outside city limits. Thus flashing a Sandpoint birth certificate is not enough. It must be closely examined to see if it has a different place of birth listed or it has a little whiteout on it.
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Alisa @9:43AM....thank you for your words of encouragement! I appreciate all that you can do for nameless folks on blogs....I encourage you to share that gift with as many folks as you can! Again...thank you!
ReplyDeleteUh, oh, not safe to post any longer because she's baaaacckkkk...
ReplyDeleteAdd me to the growing list of people sick and tired of GinaM's nasty posts. She really does come off as someone growing increasingly mentally unstable . . . .
ReplyDeleteI'm embarrassed for her, Gryph, and I think you should ask her to tone it down.
At the very least these e-mails show a woman tormented by naysayers, and critics, and rumormongers. If the speculations from bloggers and such were just silly rumors, a Governor would refuse to justify it, or address it; she'd ignore it. Plain and simple.
ReplyDeleteIgnore it because she'd know the truth and know the truth about her family, and with a 'supposed' faith in God, she'd let it slide and rely on her family and friends. If the Palin's were role models and had nothing to hide, she would have just laughed it off and the 'rumors' would have dissipated.
Sarah sounds like a woman who believed that a job promised all colleagues to 'love' on her all the time. I don't think she ever really had a real job. She never learned how to adjust and take the bad with the good. It's apparent that she thought her jobs in leadership (Mayor, Governor)were coronations, and her subjects should be her yes men.
Her e-mails, from what I've read so far, are those of teen drama, reacting to what people said about her and wanting to exact revenge.
i found she was pissed abt msnbc Andrea Mitchell landing in alaska, gryphen can you pl. look up emails.
ReplyDeletedo a search baby, bump, divorce, bristol, willow, tripp ... u get interesting reads :)
The Crivella West e-mails are NOT the new ones. Try searching on Unflippinbelievable to find the one quoted as being from April 2009. You won't find it.
ReplyDeletePeople in Alaska already knew Palin to be racist while serving as 'quitter governor'. She did not declare February black month and was called on the carpet for it. It was one of the things she did upon quitting which was way past the month it was actually celebrated.
ReplyDeleteAnd, then we really got a horrid view of her being racist when on the campaign trail w/McCain. She was so awful and continues to be all these years later.
But, don't forget, she did sleep w/a black guy and he confirmed it - national basketball star - forget his name. They say once you do that - it's never good w/a white guy. Wonder if that is one of her and Toad's problems that made him hire a prostitute for sexuals favors?
Remember, IM declared the Palin marriage to be in big, big trouble way back...possible divorce. And, he took all kinds of flack for it. Appears he was 100% correct, which we all suspected here in Alaska.
ReplyDeleteSarah and Todd have never appeared to be a loving couple w/respect for each other. They don't come across anywhere near as loving a couple as do President Obama and our First Lady, Michelle.
God you guys need to get over your pointless outrage at GinaM. Yes she can sometimes dismiss someone as a troll too quickly, but who cares? Don't like her comments? Don't read them! She even makes it easy for you with a hilarious avatar of McCain's "pitbull with lipstick". Stop trying to censor people.
ReplyDelete"What makes it real is the reference to Bristol and information about her. That should have been redacted but it was missed. If enough people comment on it it should be possible to play it down."
ReplyDeletequoted from a source I can't release.
Anonymous 10:03 AM said...
ReplyDeleteAlisa and Irishgirl, please don't let it get to you....
You're absolutely right, of course. This morning my sense of humor abandoned me.
Stephen Colbert takes to task the sick and twisted actions of Mormons converting Jews after death. It's pretty funny how it gets resolved:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mediaite.com/tv/stephen-colbert-tackles-posthumous-mormon-baptisms-by-converting-all-the-dead-mormons-to-judaism/
Gina M. I had no problem in understanding Ailsa's post. She pointed out that you were crass, rude and ignorant. I fully concur with her assessment (that means that I agree with her).
ReplyDeleteAnyway, may you have an eternal itch and no nails to scratch it.
Póg Mo Thóin
You can google that!
Okay because I don't want to derail this post....I apologize for pissing off "anonymous" and "irishgirl".
ReplyDeleteEverybody who is anonymous is not ALWAYS a troll. I agree...so again...I'm not trying to start a bunch of shit...because like "Alisa"..."my sense of humor abandoned me this morning"....
*deep curtsy with an offering of fudge brownies to "anonymous" and "irishgirl"*
My take on the divorce email:
ReplyDelete"If" means "It is within the realm of possibility."
"When" means: "I've been thinking about it."
HAPPY BIRTHDAY JESSIE!!!!
ReplyDeleteJust want to add that I would not be at all surprised if the Palin marriage was in trouble...in fact, I don't think anyone could live with that woman. BUT, I honestly don't think the email reflects that.
ReplyDeleteThe most devastating personal attacks I have ever read are on heavily moderated academic boards. There are no anonymous comments. You better know your shit, or you will be obliterated.
ReplyDeleteGinaM is an angel in comparison.
I love her.
Quit your whining.
Whether Sarah's email to Frank regarding "getting a divorce" is tongue in cheek or not isn't really relevant.
ReplyDeleteWe have certain facts that we can extrapolate motive from regarding this issue:
1. Todd and Sarah cheated on each other numerous times. Both while they were dating and after the marriage. If divorce proceedings were initiated, it would all come out and be documented by the court.
2. Because of her "religious beliefs", especially in light of statements made while Mayor of Wasilla at some of the church of God events, she must pretend to be involved in a "happy" marriage in order to carry on the facade.
3. If she in fact tried to divorce Todd, she'd have to give him a very big chunk of "her" money - and we all know Sarah doesn't like to part with a dime.
4. If she divorced Todd she'd loose her "hold" on certain family members, including Todd himself, and she'd like to keep them quiet.
So her only option was/is to make as much $ as she can so she and Todd could live as separately as possible. After all, he hasn't shared her bed in quite some time, that is when he's actually in the same house with her at the same time.
To summarize, Sarah has stayed married to Todd because a) it is politically and monetarily expedient for her to do so, and b) she's one of those types that won't let go of one man until she has another waiting to take his place. That might be a little harder to find these days than she might have guessed 10 years ago.
Speaking of paranoid, delusional, radical, fear-mongering idiots:
ReplyDeleteRick Santorum: ‘Mitt Romney Is In Bed With Barack Obama On Destroying’ Churches And Hospitals
“This is Obama’s plan! I talk about this all the time. Obama wanted to do this. This is a plan to destroy the mediating institutions in our society; the churches, the civic organizations, the hospitals, all the things that the government is now trying to take over and move the private sector and the nonprofit sector out by starving them and over-regulating them. Mitt Romney is in bed with Barack Obama on destroying these vital mediating institutions of our society by starving them of money from the very people that keep these organizations alive and well in our society.”
Big allegation. Santorum would never get in bed with Obama like that. Heck, he wouldn’t even kiss a guy.
Watch the clip from GBTV below:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/rick-santorum-mitt-romney-is-in-bed-with-barack-obama-on-destroying-churches-and-hospitals/
O/T but this is an AWESOME Mom!
ReplyDeleteA gay teen's poignant coming out to his mother is making the blogosphere rounds.
As Dan Brian notes on his YouTube page, "Finally got the strength to come out to my mom...I decided to post this so that I could share my experience with you. Hopefully it will be an inspiration to those who do not have such supportive families."
Though heartwarming, the authenticity of the video has been questioned on Twitter, to which Dan Brian has responded, "If she did know [it was being filmed] she would've worn better pants!"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/24/dan-brian-gay-teen-mom-comes-out_n_1299272.html
I thought she listed all those monetary gifts and others on her disclosure form. There was definitely a note saying so with a lot listed.
ReplyDeleteNew Sarah Palin Emails Chronicle Turbulent Last Days As Alaska Governor (PHOTOS)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/24/new-sarah-palin-emails-ch_n_1299512.html#s723045&title=Marital_Problems
Palin and Aides Felt Snubbed by McCain in Early 2008
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2012/02/palin-mccain-snub-2008-alaska
Sarah is a racist because she is not pretty enough to be black (Lost to a prettier black Miss Alaska).
ReplyDeleteSarah is a racist because she is not smart enough to for a black man (Glen Rice turned her down in favor of a woman with a brain).
Sarah is a racist because her husband could not compete with black athletes (Todd received not one athletic scholarship).
Sarah is a racist because blacks refuse to impregnate her daughters in an attempt to strengthen her gene pool (the Massey brothers refused to fuck Bristol and Willow).
sent all their kids to Harvard for, er, the rest of their lives.
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Harvard has to ACCEPT them first.
COVERUP!
ReplyDeleteIn internal emails with her communications staff, then-Alaska governor Sarah Palin tried to censor a press release put out by an independent organization linking her to controversial Texas pastor John Hagee, the influential Christian-Zionist leader whose statements on Catholicism and Hurricane Katrina caused Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) to publicly repudiate him in 2008. The exchange comes as part of a new trove of emails released by the the Alaska Secretary of State in response to a public records request first filed by Mother Jones.
After Palin appeared at an event in March 2009 sponsored by Hagee's organization, Christians United for Israel, CUFI spokesman Ari Morgenstern sent the governor's office a draft of its press release trumpeting the event, a courtesy often provided to high-profile figures. Although William McAllister, Palin's communications director, initially wrote back saying there was no need for coordination, Palin herself jumped in and began to micro-manage. She suggested two more individuals whose names she'd like to see referenced in the press release (including an Anchorage rabbi), and added, "Let me know when they have done so."
An hour and a half later, she had apparently thought about it some more and come up with an additional request: "Eliminate reference to Hagee." But she wanted her role in this de-Hageee-ficiation kept a secret. "[Y]ou guys do that—don't tell them 'the Governor said...'"
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2012/02/palin-staff-dont-let-my-name-appear-john-hagee
Knowing that a frequent comment-er is quite likely to deliberately misinterpret and distort what I have said in my own comments is very handy. Knowing ahead of time means that I can just skip said comment-er's entries.
ReplyDeleteI really appreciate that the frequent comment-er is not being anonymous. It's very considerate. Thank you.
I believe the "marital problems" e-mail is just joking about a silly rumor, not a serious discussion at all.
ReplyDeleteGryphen here is the email when you and Dennis filmed Baldy at Wallow's basketball game....
ReplyDeletehttp://www.documentcloud.org/documents/313174-pra-gsp02-0027673.html
scroll down to page two....VERY INTERESTING!!!
We know $arah quit Hawaii because of all the dark-skinned people and she fired all the blacks who worked on her gov campaign. Yep, the KKK wants her.
ReplyDeleteOver at my blog people have let me know that not only was Todd Palin using Sarah's government emal account but so was Piper. Why is that important? I beleive it shows that Sarah Palin did not take her responsibilities seriously and pure lack of good judgement.
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More of the basketball game email...including a "CC" to the "toad1982"....LOL!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.documentcloud.org/documents/313176-pra-gsp02-0027674.html
Concerning GinaM
ReplyDeleteShe signs her posts big as day "GinaM".If you are so sure you will not be happy reading them,don't.It's really that simple.Except for the trolls harping on her to take the focus off of the subject of Sarah Paylin.Right Becky?
I realize not everyone complaining is a troll.But think if you were not encouraged by the obvious ones,you would not waste your time filling up the blog with anti-GinaM posts,you would just skip them.
7:46 AM, the divorce email was a joke. Get over it.
ReplyDeleteAnon 11:04, No one is trying to censor anyone. People have a right to vent frustration when they are attacked for giving an opinion. Using the word censor to shut people up is hypocritical. That's what you are doing.. Gina is smart and clever but the snark sometimes goes too far. Let others have their opinion and don't try to censor them!
ReplyDeleteCan't we all get along? I bet the bots love this.
8:09 AM, humor escapes you?
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ReplyDelete8:24 AM
YAWN! You gotta do better than that! Unfortunately I am not able to understand your gibberish. If you are trying to confuse...you have succeeded!
9:06 AM
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Hey Gina, just stop reading the posts if you don't like them. You trying to censor people here? (Your words, BTW)
And I'm not too surprised that you're confused, either.
God you guys need to get over your pointless outrage at GinaM. Yes she can sometimes dismiss someone as a troll too quickly, but who cares? Don't like her comments? Don't read them! She even makes it easy for you with a hilarious avatar of McCain's "pitbull with lipstick". Stop trying to censor people.
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These TROLL accusations DO matter. They discourage open-minded discussion. Nobody likes to be put on the defensive which is what this accusation does, so eventually helpful and inquisitive voices may just give up posting. We risk all credibility when the knee-jerk "troll" judgements make supposedly broad-minded liberals sound like ........well, like knee-jerk right-wingers. If anyone is attempting a kind of censorship it is these kinds of posters.
Hey GinaM
ReplyDeleteLook up sarcasm in the dictionary and work on your sense of humor.
Divorce email obviously a joke.
Irishgirl, I heart you. GinaM, I heart you sometimes, although you acidly called me a troll on IM about a year and a half ago. Like Irishgirl, I've been around this terrain for a long time--in fact, from Sept. 08 on Mudflats.
ReplyDeleteBut to paraphrase Rodney King: "Can't we all just get along?"
The little racist friend's email is interesting - probably reflects what Mrs Palin thought when she headed off to join the campaign.
ReplyDeleteShe thought she was headed for Washington - "this country is going to vote for a white man over a black man" was well fixed in her brain.
Just as well for this country that they got it wrong - and Mrs Palin should be thanked for her help in electing President Obama. It is pleasing to note that she is campaigning for him once more.
"Even if Sarah's parents are US citizens which would enable her to claim US citizenship despite being born in Canada, she would not meet the natural born criteria for being president or VP."
ReplyDeleteYes, she would. If you are born of at least one American citizen you are an American citizen. It doesn't matter whether you are born on a military base or a shack in Biafra.
Google is your pal:
http://immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/u-s-citizenship-through-parents-or-by-birth.html
http://shusterman.com/uscitizenshipchart1.html
Just think of Gina as the Don Rickles of IM, with ready insults for everyone. Pretty funny, actually, and even those of us she insults can laugh too.
ReplyDelete"The increasingly irrelevant VP-losing, half-term serving, un-reality TV has-been, Sarah Palin, has climbed atop her Facebook soapbox once again to show the world that she has not yet exhausted her supply of incoherent policy positions and dopey cliches."
ReplyDeleteRead the rest here
http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=6482
I like the e-mail where in true paranoiac fashion she complains about the media following her to a Girl Scout cookie sale. One of her staff then has to remind her that it was a planned event promoted in the newspaper.
ReplyDeleteGinaM, give it a rest. You're acting like Franklin Graham as the all knowing decider of who's a troll and who's not. Take this as constructive criticism for your push back to commentators on this blog is becoming offensive and inappropriate. It's about respect.
ReplyDeleteSharon
What Palin should be frightened about the most is the fact that this is already dropping off all headlines. Nobody cares what she thinks, says. These emails prove that she is just a whiner that wasn't strong enough to handle the pressures of public office. The fact of the matter is that she should not have been responding to all of the rumors. She CHOSE to. Simply weaker than her peers.
ReplyDeleteTook a small visit over the See4PEE, and they are whining about the new emails, hand wringing big time
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Sarah is th most powerful person in the world!!
QUE?>
Team GinaM!
ReplyDeleteI think some of the anonymous posters criticizing her today are palinbots, otherwise why not use a name?
Alicat
Death by a thousand cuts.....Har.... Har.....Har...
ReplyDeleteLook at the EAR on Palin in the photo on this post! It's giant, and slightly "ruffled" at the top. She doesn't often show her ears, but she did full-on in this photo and it's BIG, and curly and overall strange. I think I see where Trig got his ruffled ear from.
ReplyDeleteMore of the basketball game email...including a "CC" to the "toad1982"....LOL!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.documentcloud.org/documents/313176-pra-gsp02-0027674.html
12:17 PM
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Lemme see, Dave Letterman, Jay Ramras, Joe McGinniss, anonymous parties who threatened to "rape" her daughters...and here we have the same suggestions of sexual perversion aimed at Dennis Zaki. What is wrong with this woman, I mean deep down inside of her sexual psyche?
GinaM
ReplyDeleteThank you for being you - meanwhile
Those emails are a hoot - first thing - Tod tells her "please don't do anything"
Ahh - Tod's been there before - and again she ignores the advise.
Then Dennis Zaki is "creepy". ANY man who doesn's fawn all over Mrs Palin is obviously creepy and suspicious. Well - if you aren't attracted to her - there is something seriously wrong with you. You obviously are after the younger generation.
She is SO obvious and this confirms it. She knows NOTHING about governing, policy, local, national or international events. She was outed as dumb and retaliates by mean personal bullying attacks. She just keeps on doing it - as in her latest face book rant.
Re: The "basketball e-mails":
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CREEPY (x5)
SUSPICIOUS
LITTLE GIRLS
"IT WILL BE SORT OF CREEPY IF HE SOMEHOW KNEW I'D BE HERE FOR LITTLE GIRLS BASKETBALL AND FOLLOWED ME IN..."
("followed me in" i.e. "stalked me...VICTIM!! AND, what about my KIDS?! )
Gryphen,
Did you try and sue Palin and Van Flea for the havoc they caused in your professional life?
So much for symbolism . . .
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/24/wasilla-school-sculpture-controversy_n_1299838.html?1330115132&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk1%26pLid%3D138313
I do feel for the artist, but this IS kinda funny...
Only in Wasilla!
: )
Sarah at 11:54. Another attempt to try to convince us that just because you say it happened, we should believe it. We all know better however.
ReplyDeleteGinaM said...
ReplyDeleteGryphen here is the email when you and Dennis filmed Baldy at Wallow's basketball game....
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/313174-pra-gsp02-0027673.html
scroll down to page two....VERY INTERESTING!!!
12:10 PM
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Gina,
That is VERY interesting.
I'm sure Gryphen will do it up right :)
Sharon
ReplyDelete2:51 PM
Please refer to my post @ 11:27AM...in particular my "offering of fudge brownies".
Oh and thanks for the name "Franklin Graham" ....you should see all the emails that come up! This one in particular is from when they took cookies to the WRONG village!
Baldy is one nasty piece of work!
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/304378-pra-gsp02-0002174.html
GinaM -- You go girl! You found the dirt!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteTeam GinaM!
I think some of the anonymous posters criticizing her today are palinbots, otherwise why not use a name?
Alicat
3:05 PM
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B/c they are about 2-3 all from the heavily censor mudflats.
If they used their names you would see them whining over and over.
They should all play in the Mud or play with their dollies.
Team GinaM!
Anon @ 8:32 AM says:"...she & Todd could have pleaded nolo contendere to all the frivolous lawsuits filed by Democratic Party operatives to intimidate her, paid off all her lawyers with a triple bonus AND sent all their kids to Harvard for, er, the rest of their lives."
ReplyDeleteSorry $carah/Bar$tool/Toad: That 'Democratic party operative' actually is a staunch REPUBLICAN!
Research your spewings before you open your trap!
Team GinaM!
ReplyDeleteI think some of the anonymous posters criticizing her today are palinbots, otherwise why not use a name?
Alicat
3:05 PM
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B/c they are about 2-3 all from the heavily censor mudflats.
If they used their names you would see them whining over and over.
They should all play in the Mud or play with their dollies.
Team GinaM!
4:07 PM
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gina,
don't change a thing, stay just as you are
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Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete7:46 AM, the divorce email was a joke. Get over it.
12:21 PM
Yeah, yeah, maybe...
... but, please can someone tell me what kind of 'conflict of interest' was swirling around Todd and BP that a divorce would cure?
Even if she was being coy with the correspondent, she still referenced a conflict of interest with Todd's name in the same sentence.
3:32 Too bad the piece of art work at Wasilla High School - that cost $100,000 is being compared to a 'vagina' and folks on line are comparing it to the Palins - Sarah, Bristol and Willow - for their loose ways. Can you imagine having that kind of reputation within your own home town? None of Sarah's kids actually have graduated from the high school. She and Toad are such wonderful parents!!! The high school has covered up the piece of art work and I would think it'll be removed next. The Palin family has left a horrible markl on the State of Alaska!
ReplyDeleteLook at the EAR on Palin in the photo on this post! It's giant, and slightly "ruffled" at the top. She doesn't often show her ears, but she did full-on in this photo and it's BIG, and curly and overall strange. I think I see where Trig got his ruffled ear from.
ReplyDelete3:15 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
She doesn't often show her ears????
What are those things sticking out from the sides of her head between her temples and chin when she frequently piles her wig on top of her head when her hot flashes make her neck all icky and sweaty, then?
It is not about team Gina....it is about civility.
ReplyDeleteAt least I have had the courage to use my screen name. And as some of you may know,that does give away my identity.
Anyway, I am willing to accept Gina M's offering of fudge brownies.
It is going directly to my thighs.
Peace all!
Hammer and a Feather said...
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
7:46 AM, the divorce email was a joke. Get over it.
12:21 PM
Yeah, yeah, maybe...
... but, please can someone tell me what kind of 'conflict of interest' was swirling around Todd and BP that a divorce would cure?
Even if she was being coy with the correspondent, she still referenced a conflict of interest with Todd's name in the same sentence.
5:34 PM
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We need to go back and look at Bailey book for one,
And Amanda Coyne has written a great book also,
"Crude Awakening" not just about Palin but all of them.
Perhaps questions were swirling about Toad...heh Toad1982 being a conflict of interest?
I hope Crivila gets them (emails) they seem to put them in a better form.
The oil stuff up there is so INCESTUOUS! And all Alaska has... outside mooching on the federal gov teat.
So it is difficult to put your finger on exactly what was going on at that time.
@1:15 - I think that poster may just have been trying to show how inconsistent these birther clowns are.
ReplyDeleteThere are two ways to be a "natural born citizen:
One can be the child of an American citizen no matter where one is born. e.g. John McCain, born in Panama
or one can be born on American soil, and the citizenship of one's parents doesn't matter, (unless they are here on as diplomats or an invading army.)
GinaM I firmly believe, is a paid writer, hired by Sarah Palin to diminish the validity of Immoral Minority commenters
ReplyDeleteI believe she is being paid to infiltrate this blog and to make it appear that Gryphen's supporters have the same low level of intelligence, lack of class, and are as ignorant as those who comment on C4P.
I wonder if it is difficult for GinaM to dumb down to the level of an 8 year old or if it just comes naturally to her.
In any event, the lack of respect for decent discourse on this blog as portrayed in Gina's comments paints a portrait better of her far better than any words I could come up with.
And have you ever noticed, that JUST LIKE SARAH PALIN HERSELF, GINA CANNOT LET ANY, AND I MEAN ANY, COMMENT THAT IS OPPOSED TO HER, GO UNCOMMENTED ON.
Sarah, is that you? :)
You ARE your words.
Gina @3:56 That email is great because it also shows even more of the preposterous lies Palin used in trying to appease the villagers after ignoring them for months. She's peddling this story about Todd being a villager who left his home to go work and then came back to be among "his people"?? WTF is she pulling with this one? Anyone can prove she's lying about Todd. He didn't grow up in a remote village and leave in order to support his family! She was specifically referring to the years BEFORE they were married, not when he was working on the slope as Wasilla isn't exactly a remote village nor did he live in one when he was in high school. Is there anything she won't lie about?? NO!!
ReplyDeleteDobieTracker said...
ReplyDeleteGinaM I firmly believe, is a paid writer, hired by Sarah Palin to diminish the validity of Immoral Minority commenters
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Or possibly Politicalgates, there are some big IM haters still holding a grudge over there.
How many times have we seen this one before: Something incriminating surfaces about Palin. Anon posters pop up on IM and elsewhere, same short posts over and over in different threads: "I'm no fan of Sarah Palin but..."
ReplyDeleteRemember when Palin faked the half-marathon, and someone realized that the dolt who did the photoshopping left a woman's head of hair in the shot behind a man who, upon close inspection, did not have a ponytail? The sprinkling of emails then had exactly the same tone as we're seeing now: "Oh, hah hah, isn't that funny, too bad we'll never tell anything from photographs." Etc.
But you gotta admit: nice of our "subtle" troll friends to let us know when we're onto something.
@Anonymous 7:00PM
ReplyDeletehttp://wonkette.com/464758/sarah-palin-concerned-about-bp-conflict-of-interest-in-her-divorce
Even Wonkette is confused about this.
>>DobieTracker said...
ReplyDeleteGinaM I firmly believe, is a paid writer, hired by Sarah Palin to diminish the validity of Immoral Minority commenters
Paranoid much? That is the stupidest thing I've heard in a while. Why are you trying to stir up trouble on this blog? If you 'firmly believe' this, you are truly an idiot.
Hammer and a Feather said...
ReplyDelete@Anonymous 7:00PM
http://wonkette.com/464758/sarah-palin-concerned-about-bp-conflict-of-interest-in-her-divorce
Even Wonkette is confused about this.
5:40 AM
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What I'm thinking is that she made such a big stink about Randy Rudrich and she herself had gotten 5K from Bill Allen for her Lt. Gov run, maybe she was afraid of being sucked into the FBI "poison pen"? B/c we've seen in earlier emails she actually shared classified info with the toad and him with her Re: BP after this?
Every must Read Amanda Coynes book "Crude awakening" AWESOME READ!