The Tennessee House last week voted 80-18 to make miscarriage — or the killing of any fertilized egg — murder. Last night, the Tennessee Senate passed by a 28-2 margin a companion version of the bill. The bill specifically includes all embryos “at any state of gestation in utero.” Tennessee’s Republican Governor Bill Haslam has not indicated if he will sign the bill.
To be clear, this bill goes further than covering, say, a violent attacker harming an expectant mother who then, unfortunately, miscarries. This bill, House Bill 3517 and the Senate’s companion, makes anyone’s actions that presumably cause a miscarriage murder. Opponents of the bill question how law enforcement would actually enforce this law or determine if someone’s action was a direct cause of a miscarriage.
Personally I don't see how anybody did NOT realize that this was the ultimate goal of the Republican's "War on Women." It has always been about criminalizing the death of a fetus, and they will not stop until they can find a way to pillory a woman who suffers a miscarriage in the public square, and send any doctor who performs an abortion to the gas chamber.
Look I don't know how else to say this, but if you are a woman who supports the Republican party in 2012 you are an idiot!
I mean what more do they need to do to convince you? Forcibly remove your ovaries until you swear to them that you will only use them to create more Republicans?
As the father of 3 daughters I feel genuine fear for what this country is turning into with regard to woman's reproductive rights. They still have rights, don't they?
ReplyDeleteHow long before they propose a Ministry of Menstruation to keep track of all this activity?
Thank you, Sir, for your concern and your support for the future of all!
DeleteThis reactionary part of the nation is singularly determined to push us back into the Dark Ages.
How can we, the Reasoning Majority, become more effective in order to avoid the capture of all three branches of government by these
Regressives?
fromthediagonal
I wonder who will be the Period Czar to ensure all women have registered with the Menstrual Accountability Board?
DeleteHow long before they deny women to actually have any more children and just clone Republicans!
DeleteCBS News reported last night that one of the Secret Service agents who was fired is shopping around for a book deal!! Hopefully it is Todd's client who visited Shaily. Buh bye Toad!!!
ReplyDeleteThey are required to submit any books or articles they write to the government for censoring based on "national security", so much of what he writes may never be seen by the public. Many who formerly worked for the US government have moved to other countries so they could write the whole truth.
DeleteMost spontaneous abortions occur because the fetus is not viable. Maybe the people who wrote or voted for this crazy legislature are feeling some kinship with non-viable fetuses.
DeleteExactly! Which means that anything you do (or someone does to you or encourages you to do) that just happens to take place right before you spontaneously abort a fetus *might* be claimed as causing that miscarriage!
DeleteI know a woman who's mother in law never forgave her for doing aerobics and causing her (in her mind) to miscarry her grandchild.
And who's gonna figure this #$&% out? Do the police investigate? Because we know the GOP doesn't give a crap what a doctor thinks, so they won't take their word for it.
Can you imagine the legislaton if there WERE a WOW? Me neither. This is war; the GOP has declared it; and we will fight back. We are not stupid, we are not mindless 'secretaries,' and we know exactly what these men are doing to us. I want to see if there were any TN women stupid enough to vote for this, or bullied enough to not be marching on the TN state house to ensure the Governor vetoes this piece of insanity.
ReplyDeleteFemale in TN
DeleteNo, did not vote for it. Yes, have been bullied by the law enforcement here, and I can't move fast enough out of this crooked redneck state. Google "policing for profit". News channel 5 investigates. Barf. Am throwing away most of my possessions and packing. Will be gone this week - after 32 years.
The silence of the AMA when these bills are introduced and then passed is deafening. Why has the medical community turned its back on women in this country?
ReplyDeleteMany years ago I miscarried (technically a "spontaneous abortion" - remember what Sarah Palin had whited out) on the evening of the day that I was told that the pregnancy test was positive. I would have loved to have had that child. But nothing could stop Mother Nature and I lost the opportunity.
What is happening to men in this country that so many of them in politics hate women so much? And the English language has no words for the perfidy of women politicians who support these laws.
Given the number of women who experience miscarriages, and sometimes it happens before you even know you are pregnant, it looks like a lot of men would like to have us all in prison (or executed) for murder. It is truly insane.
Beaglemom
God is the biggest abortionist, ending 15-20% of pregnancies. Let's put her on trial.
DeleteEXACTLY. Also, too, men who are violent toward women cause a number of miscarriages. Not to mention job stress, lack of sleep, over-work, and poor nutrition. In fact, those are THE major factors. "Oh, but since we republicans refuse to spend our budget funds toward helping with those things, let's just throw the WOMEN in prison instead." Yeah, THAT'LL solve everything . . . .
DeleteI truly think that the xeno-estrogens saturating our environment have so severely attacked the general 'manhood' that they are mostly all in a rage these days – and just looking for a woman to blame it on. Seriously. Well-functioning men do not go around obsessing about these things. Think about it.
Gee, I bet scara is glad she doesn't live in Tennessee. Based on her Wild Ride story, if she would have lost the baby, she would have gone to jail for murder. But lucky for her, she wasn't pregnant.
ReplyDeleteCharges have already been filed against a 16 year old girl in Miss. yes she'd had a miscarriage and the hospital phoned the police. She was arrested.
DeleteA 16 year old girl is facing charges in Miss. She miscarried and the hospital phoned the police. She was arrested. I can only imagine the pain she was in physically.
DeleteI had to laugh - grimly - at the "question [of] how law enforcement would actually enforce this law..."
ReplyDeleteGiven that 15 to 20 percent (and some studies suggest the number is higher) of known pregnancies end in miscarriage, most within the first 7 weeks of pregnancy, law enforcement is going to have their work cut out for them.
I'm beginning to wonder if male right wingnuts know anything about human reproductive processes apart from their limited involvement - and I mean limited in every imaginable sense of the word.
Extremely limited, because they're not 'getting any'.
DeleteWar On Women Indeed!
ReplyDeleteI cannot say anything else about these misogynists that has not already been said, except that the very thought of where they are taking this nation is infuriating.
In the same vein, and only slightly OT:
Against the opposition of Republican Senators, the Violence Against Women Act was reauthorized.
This is the first time that any Senator has voted against, and unsurprisingly, opportunistic MARCO RUBIO did.
Any bets he is making sure he will get the nomination?
fromthediagonal
The sponsor of the bill is a WOMAN!
DeleteSen. Mae Beavers, R-Mount Juliet, the sponsor, said legislators have since learned that, under the scientific definition of a fetus, the term only applies when eight weeks or more has passed since conception. Adding "embryo" covers from the moment of conception.
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/apr/24/bill-authorizes-prosecution-for-death-of-an/
And what reward did she get from her male colleagues by being the 'front-woman'????
DeleteAll five Republican women Senators voted for the bill.
DeleteWell, under Tennessee's new law I'm a 5-time murderer! I've had 5 miscarriages. All of them were very wanted pregnancies. The doctors could never figure out why I miscarried. A miscarriage is a very painful event and this stupid law compounds that pain for any woman. These bozos apparently don't know that around 25% of all pregnancies are miscarried. Some very early and some, like in my case, in the 2nd or even 3rd trimester.
ReplyDeleteIt's time to vote these fools out of office all over the country. It's time we take our country back from the GOP TP!!!
I had four miscarriages and almost bled to death in the process of one of them.
DeleteIt was pre-911 emergency dialing and my then-12-year-old son had to drive me to the hospital's emergency room after he found me passed out in a pool of blood in the hallway.
Poor kid... he didn't know he was protecting a murderer.
Holy God!
DeleteI am so sorry to hear about both of your past losses!
How can these men speak about their mothers, wives and daughters as if they actually cared about them as women?
It is frighteningly obvious,
they. do. not.
Sarah Palin would be convicted, twice. And her treatment of "Trig" in her womb at eight months would have been suspect too.
ReplyDeleteEvery time a woman shares on Facebook that she's suffered a miscarriage, women come out of the woodwork to share their experiences too. We'd all be forced to wear the Red Letter, shamed and questioned for biological actions beyond our control.
ALEC and all the pro-life groups that cookie-cut these kinds of actions across the board in every state are fucking women hating assholes that want to treat our daughters, wives, sisters and mother's as sluts, whores, aborting-loving prostitutes.
Unfortunately any of them are women, too. Take for example a woman who is part of the management team, a VP,at a virtual school which is now infiltrating state charters with a very inferior educational experience. They promise an education, which simply doesn't happen, unless there is a fulltime, unpaid parent around, upon who they shove more and more "work." She proudly touts her membership in ALEC.
DeleteWhy not share this VP's name with everyone? She deserves to be outted! Any woman who is in collusion with these GOP haters deserves to be identified.
DeleteMost women I know, above the age of 30 have had at least one miscarriage - reason for same unknown - but most doctors usually explain them by suggesting their was probably a serious problem with the fetus.
ReplyDeleteFew women of intelligence will stay in Tennessee if this becomes law, which does not bode well for the genes that will be reproduced in that state - although if the majority of women are in prison - one presumes the only way they will then reproduce will be at the will of their jailers.
This TN woman is leaving. I've had enough of these misogynist idiots.
DeleteThis TN woman also knows that like 35 Sheriff's guards were fired in August for having sex with inmates. In February there was a pregnant woman in solitary who was not pregnant when she went in. Nothing's changed. I have come to loathe this state.
DeleteI guess that since there is a small risk of miscarriage with amniocentesis, that will be illegal also in Tennessee. Didn't Palin have an amnio?
ReplyDeleteWith Santorum as the Secretary of Health & Human Services, he'll make sure that Pre-Natal services are cut out - since digging into the nature of the baby's sex and health is only a way for the mother to figure out whether she'll abort. . .must not lead them into temptation. Knowledge is power.
DeleteThey're not the only state to criminalize women for miscarriages. Many women have been arrested - without a law backing it in those states. One women, who had a still birth of a badly wanted child is currently sitting in jail waiting for her trial for murder.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/24/america-pregnant-women-murder-charges
I had two miscarriages while I was trying to become pregnant, God had other plans. Spontaneous abortions (miscarriages) are common among women. Guess I was lucky enough to have had my kids many years ago. Heaven help mothers now - the Religious right is doing everything they can to destroy all mothers now.
This is but one more thing that enrages me to the point of insanity, these immoral, lying, evil SOBs are trying to inflict on us all.
Yes. I'm a generations-long Tennessean and i'm so glad i had my five kids and four miscarriages BEFORE it was criminalized.
DeleteThe second Tennessee establishes a tax on income, i'm outta here...
... idiot Tennessee Republicans.
Imagine going to the doctor with cramps and bleeding because you're miscarrying and imagine being put in handcuffs and arrested until you can prove you didn't cause it. THIS IS WHAT THE WORLD WILL LOOK LIKE under the "leadership" of these theocrats unless we stop the madness and tell them HELL NO and force them to sit down and shut up and control their own damn bodies and leave ours alone! Memo to GOP: Pass all the laws you want, you won't be able to force a woman to obey your rules over HER body.
ReplyDeleteIf you commit enough outrageous acts often enough, in close enough sequence, pretty soon you have taken everyone off-guard, and a fascist state no longer appears impossible, but in fact the most likely conclusion.
Delete9:59~
DeleteJohn Huntsman had to *ADMIT* to BELIEVING in SCIENCE,
and it put him,
FURTHER BEHIND in the GOP race.
Utter lunacy.
In Tennessee, if you give birth while incarcerated, you do so while handcuffed to the bed. For Driving on Suspended.
DeleteI think a song needs to be renamed.
ReplyDeleteTennessee Goddam.
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(1963) Nina Simone
The name of this tune is Mississippi Goddam
And I mean every word of it
Alabama's gotten me so upset
Tennessee made me lose my rest
And everybody knows about Mississippi Goddam
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Seriously, why not say something about men. What about all of these heterosexual tea men who waste their seed.
Premature ejaculation and not inside a woman.
Let's see, about 300 million sperm in a shot.
Rush on his fourth childless marriage.
USA Tea Taliban men are murderers!
You're kidding, right?
DeleteThey aren't heterosexuals, or they would know more about women...
Eggs. Actly. Pun intended. They are all closeted gays. Except in their case, there is nothing gay involved: they are closeted homosexuals. Straight, normal men who are functioning well do. not. obsess. over these things.
DeleteHow about all men who aren't married to a woman automatically get arrested for impregnating a woman?
ReplyDeleteWhy is it on the woman to be criminalized for having sex, consensual or not.
Haha! Knoxnews.com had to disable comments for this story:
ReplyDeleteBill authorizes prosecution for death of an embryo
By Tom Humphrey
Posted April 24, 2012 at 4 a.m.
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/apr/24/bill-authorizes-prosecution-for-death-of-an/
An excerpt of this bullshit:
In the House, Rep. Mike Stewart, D-Nashville, the law could now could lead to a business owner who allows smoking being charged when an employee miscarries because of secondhand smoke or charges against a motorist who causes a careless minor accident that resulted a miscarriage.
"It seems to go too far," Stewart said. "What's the limiting factor?"
Rep. Joshua Evans, R-Greenbrier, the House sponsor, said district attorneys general would not bring charges "if the proof wasn't there" of an intent to cause harm to the embryo or fetus.
Evans also said the bill merely clarifies current law, which is necessary because women are sometimes attacked because of a their pregnancy.
"There is a problem with people being killed because they're pregnant, or being assaulted," he said.
Yeeeeeeaaah.... right....
And Tennesseans are worried about Sharia Laws????
ReplyDeleteFolks, if this ain't sharia, there ain't no such thing as sharia. (I purposely used poor grammar so any Tennessee legislator reading this would have no difficulty in understanding my intent.)
Deletethis is extremely worrisome, and i don't know what to do about it! what can we do? are there any abortion clinics still remaining in Tennessee?
ReplyDeleteon an o/t: the twit on Fox who asked if Sandra Fluke was engaged "to a man" clearly didn't listen when Rush excoriated Ms. Fluke for her need for birth control. Not only was the comment homophobic, but it also was damned stupid! why else would Ms. Fluke need birth control?
also, too; what happens in Tennessee with the morning-after pill?
Exactly. They want women to have no control. That's really the only reason prostitution is illegal: not only then would we have all the poon tang, we'd also have all the money and money equals power. If women had the power................
DeleteIt's so clear what the Gop and teabagger are after. They want every baby born for the sex trade.They plan to take women out of the workforce, put them in bondage having all these pregnnancies. Then say they aren't properly taking care of tehm and take them to their new industry childten in working camps or sex bondage.This is the state ( which I live ) where ppl can't find decent jobs. They think 6 or 7 dollars an hr is too much. There needs to be an investigation into every lobist that bribs these legislators congressmen, as to what their companies are into around the worlsd sex trade, just like the Dana corp was furnishing young boys for contractord in Afganistan. But we don't have good investigative reporters anymors. Women, are the ones that know all their secrets, and we need to get real pissed off.Hell has no fury like a woman scorned or in this case pissed off, at the war on women. They need sex and we hold key to that I guess women need to go get their tubes tied. Maybe we need chasity belts so they don't get any, no baby hasd ever been born without the help of a man somehow. They can'r even make sure a woman gets childsupport
ReplyDelete...Today we will look at how conservative women are protecting themselves from facing the truth. And there, I am afraid, Mama Grizzly Chic is still the rage in conservative harem culture. I know you all thought we were done with this, but Sarah Palin assures us that Hilary Rosen has “awakened mama grizzlies across the nation.”
ReplyDeleteShe told Hannity, so it must be true, right? And I have further evidence for you.
...hardly surprising Biggs should sound disturbingly like Sarah Palin, complete down to the mama bear reference. Conservative women have to create some lies about themselves to justify their willing enslavement to a patriarchal system that has no respect for them at all. Still, it’s a useful exercise for liberals to see and try to comprehend the mental acrobatics necessary for conservative women. I know, I know, I’d rather be providing them a 12-step program too, but that’s simply impractical and you know as well as I do that Republican legislatures would never fund it. The only way we’re going to be able to help these women is break the stranglehold of patriarchal totalitarianism on Election Day, and then they won’t thank us for it.
http://www.politicususa.com/gop-women-still-embracing-mama-grizzly-chic.html
This will also effectively make murderers of any women who chooses a form of contraception that prevents pregnancy by not allowing the fertilized egg to implant on the uterine wall. That will be interesting to see if they follow up by outlawing these forms of birth control - back to "spray and pray" and watching the calendar. That worked so well when I was younger.
ReplyDeleteActually, that is probably the core intent of the law. Later on, they'll be introducing scarlet letters to put on women's foreheads.
Deleteso true - there is already a movement to call the BC pill an abortifacient.
DeleteIf you go to the "American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists" website, you will find two different position papers on this subject. One portion of their membership believes that birth control pills are abortifacient, and the other portion believes that, while the condition of the uterus is altered, it does not thereby prevent implantation.
There goal is to turn women back into chattel. Unfortunately this bill and any others like it will prevent women from seeking medical attention for a crisis during her pregnancy. I have had 3 miscarriages, one quite early on and 2 very late term, in which non viable fetus had to be removed. Without medical attention for the 2 late term miscarries I would be DEAD! A woman can hemmorage to DEATH in MINUTES!!!
ReplyDeleteThink of the pharmaceutical companies who make things such as aspirin, pain meds, and all other meds (apart from birth control pills), things that can cause spontaneous abortions. Oh, but surely the law will contain an exemption for pharmaceutical companies, since they are great campaign donors.
DeleteMy former daughter-in-law had three late term deaths of the babies inside her. She developed eclampsia after the deaths of them all & had to be rushed to surgery to remove them. All were autopsied to find the cause, but they didn't. Much later, it was discovered that she has Lupus and with that diagnosis, was finally able to have two children with the proper medical care.
DeleteShe would have been one of the prosecuted. This is so very sick.
Don't you wish Republicans cared as much for living, breathing children as they seem to care for 'potential' children?
ReplyDeleteThey like the 'idea' of children... just not the reality.
EVERY woman in this country has either had a miscarriage or knows a woman has had at least one. And DAMN few of those who miscarry can PROVE they didn't cause it. And many, many of those women would have died without medical intervention.
ReplyDeleteThis is legislation without science, without medical knowledge, without mercy, without gratitude. Yes, gratitude. Do those idiot legislators think their own mothers were miscarriage free?
Romney is supposed to be lagging in the polls among women voters. LAGGING!!! I wouldn't vote for a Republican for dog catcher. Republicans are a menace to ALL women.
Actually, now that Arizona and other states are saying that life begins BEFORE conception, meaning every egg is sacred, that means that the mere act of menstruation will throw us in jail.
DeleteRead Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale. It is coming true and women need to act before it is too late. Forget all the lies about Obama and re-elect him because if you re-elect the other side the SC justices that are appointed will be extreme right wingers who will take women back to the Dark Ages and it will affect the USA for generations. Just look at who Romney appointed as his legal advisor!
ReplyDeleteTwenty years ago, I never would have thought of Atwood's story becoming reality, but the more I see lately, the more I think it just might.
DeleteDamn Republican fools couldn't pass a seventh grade biology test. They surely have no business saying anything at all regarding biology -- which is you know, life.
ReplyDeleteWill they also charge a man who impregnates a woman who miscarries with accessory to murder? If you kick me in the nuts can you be charged with assault on two people? Will all in-vitro clinics be charged with mass murder since they routinely destroy embryos?
ReplyDeleteWe know where Republicans are going with these unnecessary laws. Just look how good the unnecessary "stand your ground" law is working out. It just blows my mind that in this day and age that vote went 80-18! What the hell is in the moonshine down there?
If I didn't have friends that live in Nashville I'd advocate nuking the city.
ReplyDeleteHow about settling for a boycott?
DeleteI live in Nashville. I am so sick of corruption and ignorance, I am now moving out. That's my boycott. It doesn't matter what office or agency, they are all liars and the men treat women like crap on their shoe. I'm ashamed I've ever lived here. What a SERIOUS waste of my life.
DeleteWhen will they outlaw IVF? Countless embryos die in that procedure every day. These psychos do not truly believe that an embryo is the same as a baby. If they did, they'd be picketing and/or bombing fertility clinics as well. This isn't about human babies. It's not even about abortion overall. This is about the continued right wing effort to segregate women into lower class citizens. This is the christian Taliban come to America. What next?
ReplyDeleteRead my list of next steps for the Fascist Theocrat Party below.
Delete8:32: "We know where Republicans are going with these unnecessary laws."
DeleteYou've penned it exactly.
Obama is proof to them that the 'black race' has 'gone too far'. Maybe this is a preemptive strike against women, to ensure that they don't 'go too far'. Maybe their racial bigotry has gotten so out of control that it has now spilled over into sexual bigotry/hatred toward women. Seriously.
Several highly regarded, married teachers at private Catholic schools have been fired for having IVF treatments recently. Thanks to the RW Supreme Court, they have no recourse.
DeleteIt's sounds like another Republican plot to get more votes. Not only are they purposely changing laws in red states to disenfranchise certain voters but now since the mother will be eating for two people, she'll get to vote twice.
ReplyDeleteHere's another weird moment out of Tennessee.
ReplyDeletehttp://squatlo-rant.blogspot.com/2012/04/im-spartacus-moment-tennessee-firearms.html
"I'M SPARTACUS!" MOMENT: TENNESSEE FIREARMS ASSOCIATION DIRECTOR CALLS FOR "CRUCIFIXION" OF LEGISLATORS WHO HOLD UP 'GUNS IN CARS' BILL
...
Here's a quote from Executive Director John Harris' email in which he blamed House Republican Caucus Chair Debra Maggart for the bill's delay, courtesy of The Tennessean (motto: "We're not making this shit up! This guy is calling for crucifixions!"):
“Rep. Debra Maggart’s political career needs to end much as the Romans crucified criminals — not just to end her tenure but as a glaring example to other Republicans that you cannot take the grassroots groups or the rights of citizens for granted,” he wrote, adding, “it is time to display a used crucifix at the entrance to the General Assembly as a warning.”
Well, now, isn't that interesting? As in, I think these people have reached the point where they need to be committed to a state mental institution. After all, the crucifixion call is clearly evidence that they are a harm to others and a menace to society.
DeleteHow ironic that miscarriage has been around almost since day one, yet there is nothing in the Bible to condemn any woman who had one. Not one word. Yet there is one crime that the Bible calls murder, which they have never even mentioned. The Bible says, "he who hates his brother (fellow man) is a murderer (1 John 3:15). Jesus said that anyone who is angry with his brother (fellow man) shall be subject to judgment." (Matthew 5:22). So, according to the Bible, every hate-filled right-winger republican is a murderer in God's eyes. They are calling for crucifixion of fellow-legislators in Tennessee today, but I promise: if they had lived 2,000 years ago, they would have been on the front lines calling for the crucifixion of Jesus.
So let's see, a woman can't get birth control without asking her boss for the ok. She loses her job because she's a slut for asking. She gets pregnant, has no prenatal health care, has to hope like hell the pregnancy goes full term at risk of jail, is forced to bite down on a twig while giving birth under a tree. Sounds like the 21st century is going just as we'd hoped!
ReplyDeleteYup, right on all counts. Except you forgot the biggest one: according to republicans, "there is no republican war on women".
DeleteSo, what's next for Tennesee? How much more savagely ignorant and prejudiced can they get?
ReplyDeleteHere's their upcoming legislative agenda:
Create a special police force with implants in the womb being monitored by doctors via wifi networks in to ensure pregnancies come to term.
Make All abortions illegal, even in rape/incest, or imminent death of the mother,. No exceptions.
Make all contraceptives illegal, with Class A felonies for "dealers" in birth control.
Premarital sex and extramarital sex are a Class B felony
All married couples must have at least 3 children, no being selfish and holding back.
No sex education allowed
Married couples must have a special license to fornicate, be fully clothed, and missionary position
Women reaching puberty must have a state inspection to ensure virginity. Violaters will be jailed, fined, and sent to the Handmaid's Tale Re-education Camp.
Chastity belts for all females 10 or older who are not married.
Divorce illegal
All homosexuals put in concentration camps or forced to emigrate, and must wear a pink
shoulder patch
You forgot another one: vibrators will be illegal.
DeleteOops, you forgot another one: it will NOT be illegal to be a pedophile priest. Special exemption there.
DeleteI live in TN. I thought you were serious. Thank God you're being facetious. Then again....around here, who knows?
DeleteTN is in competition with Arizona and Virginia as the most ignorant states in the union on women's issues. I can say this as I live in TN and there is some intelligence in this red state but not enough to bring it out of the dark ages.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. I love it here, but I wish I could move to a blue state.
DeleteIf I'm supporting an embryo for more than 1/2 the year can I claim it as a dependent on my income taxes?
ReplyDeleteOnly if it can be counted by a republican wishing to gerry-mander his congressional district to a larger number.
DeleteI had a miscarriage back in '95 and I was completely devastated. I still cry at times and wonder. If these rat bastards were in front of me at this moment I would truly be throwing some blows. And they say there is no war on women. Lying sacks of shit every last one of them.
ReplyDeleteWomen fought so hard in the 60's to gain control of their bodies. It is now time for the younger generation of women - and their supportive menfolk - to raise a ruckus that is heard and understood by the stupid GOPers who want to control and jail women today. Once rights are repealed, it is extremely difficult and time consuming to get them back.
ReplyDeleteTime for women to rise up and fight for their rights again!
I fail to understand any woman thinking these laws are good and sane. Of course, I certainly have seen the docility of the right wing religious woman kowtowing to her Man, the Boss of her world. I've felt sorry for them in the past, not recognizing then that this was a growing movement that is now reaching the goal of subjugating women to their second-class citizen role.
Women of America - unite and ensure your rights are upheld in the court of law and regain your place as an EQUAL to man, not as chattal (property) of man.
exceptionally well said!
DeleteGo to the War against Women rallies tomorrow. I fought in the 60's. I'll be there tomorrow with my husband, daughter, granddaughter, and a couple of her friends. Don't let "them" divide the generations. You bet I have an interest in this.
DeleteAs a Mother I am thankful to be blessed with 2 healthy, adult children. Despite all of my words of wisdom my 16 year old daughter became pregnant. As a pro-choice Mom my daughter made the choice to have her baby. We came to terms with her choice because we love her unconditionally. Sadly, she had a miscarriage in her second trimester. She didn't drink alcohol, smoke cigerettes, ate healthy and took her prenatal vitamins. She had to have a dnc and was devastated. After further testing we found out there was a major birth defect. The baby would not have survived after birth. I told her it was God's way of saying this baby was not meant to be. She was in counciling for months learning how to deal with the situation. It was devastating for me to help her cope with such a loss. I am sick to my stomach when I read this article. Can you imagine how much more traumatic it would have been for her to face being arrested for something she had no control over? This law is insane and is criminal. And the fact that it was authored by a woman? OMG! What is wrong with these people? This has to stop and people need to keep this in mind when they go to the polls. We need to hold these idiots accountable and get them out of office ASAP.
ReplyDeleteI think there is a special circle in Dante's hell for any woman who would put her name on or vote for such legislation. I can't help but wonder if any of these legislators ever had a basic health class in school. Certainly one of the first things any responsible obstetrician tells a newly pregnant woman is that there is always a chance for miscarriage especially but not only in the first three months.
DeleteBeaglemom
Good collection of cartoons, etc. regarding the idiotic War On Women.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.democraticunderground.com/1002614998
The overreach of these cousin humps is breathtaking. If this made into law it would be swatted down in court the moment it was challenged. Do these assholes REALLY think that they can legislate their repressive religious dogma on the rest of us?
ReplyDeleteYeah, there's no GOP war on women. It's all a liberal fantasy.
o/t Greta is showing better taste in guests. One year she invited Todd Palin. eeeeewwwww....
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/27/meghan-mccain-greta-van-susteren-lindsay-lohan-white-house-correspondents-dinner_n_1458655.html
They'd better think about incarceration just a little harder. Progressively following these chains of events, and potentially finding myself in the company of sister "murderesses," I think we'll be having a great big party: no dinners to cook, no drycleaning to pick up, no vacuums to run
ReplyDeleteThey'll understand what evil truly is, then.
This year’s TN legislative session is an embarrassing three-ring circus gaining our state nothing but negative media attention. Our lawmakers should focus on improving the state economy and education instead of intruding on civil liberties and violating students’ rights, gay rights, women’s rights, immigrants’ rights and even monkey rights! Read about how these elected officials are turning our back yard into a testing ground for the most extreme Right-Wing agendas in the entire country at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/04/living-stereotype-and-seeing-red-in.html
ReplyDeleteI agree.
DeleteI live in one of the poorest counties in TN where the high school girls have no hope of going to college but would get pregnant. Most of the working population leaves the county for their jobs. Some of the rest are employed by the prison or the county and the residual are on welfare. For the legislators to spend this time on women's rights over their own body says they don't think the rest is really important or that the religion has more importance than taking care of our fellow man. These people are insane or totally stupid!
Coming TOMORROW at a State Capitol or large city near you: Unite Against the War on Woman rallies. Check the webpage; find the closest and JOIN US please. Everyone who cares about women and their rights are more than welcome. We've got to stand up and stop this nonsense.
ReplyDeleteDo you have a link for this?
DeleteI don't know if this will get published or not. It was a horrific thing in my life, but people need to know that not all pregnancies are wonderful perfect things.
DeleteI was 22 and it was my first pregnancy. I was quite sure I was pregnant, but I kept testing negative. Tests were not as accurate then, I guess. I was also unaware that I had a blood clotting disorder called "Factor V Leiden". One of the results of Factor V is that women can spontaneously abort. (I'm not going to call it "miscarry". Medically the pregnancy is aborted and we shouldn't be afraid of the word.)
After two doctor visits and two negative pregnancy tests, I began to bleed. It was pretty heavy. I called the doctor, and he told me it was just because I had missed a few periods and to not worry about it. Then it became obvious that I was hemorrhaging. Blood was literally gushing down my legs. I was out at a birthday party with my sister.
My sister took me to the ER, and they get me into a regular exam room. They called in a doctor, who proceeded to do a D and C on me without anesthesia of any kind. Not so much as a shot. I was bleeding out, to be sure, but I didn't know any better, and now that I am a grown woman beyond child-bearing age, I know that it shouldn't have been that way. To this day I will never forget squeezing that RN's hand and screaming at the top of my lungs, begging her to "please stop!" as the doctor kept grabbing bits of tissue out of me with her forceps. She even showed it to me and asked me if that had been what I had been finding in the toilet for the last few hours. They gave me a heat pad after and kept me overnight for observation, but that was it. It brings tears to my eyes now to tell this story.
Let me tell you this - if anyone ever tried to charge me with murder because of this incident? I'd shoot them dead in a heartbeat.
I wish we had a rally near me. Tomorrow is the annual Earth Day parade in Traverse City, Michigan. I wonder if anyone will carry a sign regarding Mother Earth's displeasure with the Republican war on women!
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another new/same old republican obscenity.
ReplyDeleteI see the American Taliban has safely secured one of their areas of strength: Tennessee.
ReplyDeleteI will not be visiting any part of that State on my US trip, and I urge all others to do the same.
BTW, here is a list of the 31 Dishonourable Senators who voted against the renewal of VAWA:
NAYs ---31
Barrasso (R-WY)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
Lugar (R-IN)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Wicker (R-MS)
Kinda reads like the "who's who" list of the American Taliban, doesn't it?
Ladies, and gentlemen, please vote and also (too) make sure as many progressives as you know vote. They can't rig the Diebold results when it's an overwhelming vote against them!
How do they even explain this vote?
DeleteIf this isn't a reminder for all women and all real men to vote, then I don't know what is.
ReplyDeleteAnd how the hell can any woman be part of the GOoP nowadays?
What I can not understand is: What were the Women of the State Senate thinking when they voted for this law? Or were they just voting as they were told?
ReplyDeleteThe women of Tenn.have a job to do, get these Women voted out.Replace them with women who think,can feel,Women who are not afraid to stand and say that is not, going to happen Women who are independent(of following men's lead)
If there isn't this possibility in the State of Tenn. I'd move! How can the Women of Tenn, live under such laws? Perhaps, anyone running for office at the State level should be required to take a biology class and pass, first, before they are allowed to place their name in connetion for any office.
This entry and it's providing source are providing false information and both seem to deliberately omit factual info and references. Why would you not link to the two pieces of legislation at the heart of this when 1) they are very brief and easy to follow, and 2) it would show the exact text of the law instead of mere interpretation. My only conclusion is that the authors want to whip up a false frenzy by making grand claims, then not supporting them with evidence.
ReplyDeleteClaim 1: Tennessee has now passed a bill that identifies mothers who miscarry as murderers.
Truth: from HB3517: Nothing in subsection (a) shall apply to any act or omission by a pregnant
woman with respect to an embryo or fetus with which she is pregnant, or to any lawful
medical or surgical procedure to which a pregnant woman consents, performed by a
health care professional who is licensed to perform such procedure.
It specifically excludes acts by the woman and any lawful actions of her health care provider. Sorry, your claim is just wrong.
Claim 2: this bill goes further than covering, say, a violent attacker harming an expectant mother
Truth: Re-read the above excerpt, that's exactly where it stops. It excludes the mother and her doctor. Who else is going to be physically influencing the physical state of the fetus?
On a separate note: Miscarriage is also referred to as "spontaneous abortion" by THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY, not just Sarah Palin. Abortion, according to medical texts, with no bias or spin, simply means: 1. expulsion from the uterus of the products of conception before the fetus is viable.
I know this is a sensitive and highly emotional issue, having gone through a miscarriage myself, but that is no excuse for blatant misrepresentation of the facts.