Courtesy of Market Watch:
Of all the falsehoods told about President Barack Obama, the biggest whopper is the one about his reckless spending spree.
As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno.”
Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true.
But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.
Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:
• In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.
• In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.
• In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.
• In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.
• Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion.
I have to tell you that one of the most exhausting parts of political blogging is shooting down GOP lies. And the ones they tell about this President are relentless.
That is why it is so important to constantly make sure to find the truth and disseminate it as far and wide as possible.
Simply put this President has kept taxes low, won the war on terrorism, improved the economy, and kept government spending to its lowest levels EVER. In other words he has done everything the Republicans claim he has failed to do, and everything that they are trying to convince the American people Mitt Romney can do better.
Yeah, right!
The Right Wing will NEVER believe that they are wrong about this no matter how many times they are shown the facts, but there are still a number of independents and unsophisticated Democrats who need to see the truth as often possible.
So please do your best to make sure they do exactly that. The country is counting on you.
P.S. By the way my headline comes from the whopper told by Mitt Romney, and repeated often since, that Obama "racked up as much debt as almost all of the other presidents combined."
As you now know that's a lie.
Do you know what's not a lie? That Mitt Romney is a fucking liar!
Update: Here is Rachel Maddow's take on this information.
It is amazing how Romney and his ilk put out all these lies! Romney is your typical Mormon male - all they do is lie!!! Amazing!
ReplyDeleteI hope his ass is nailed in the debate(s). He'll probably indicate more lies then too and our wonderful President is going to have to correct with facts throughout.
Hopefully, President Obama will turn the tables on Mitt and require him to defend the bullshit he has said.
Bless President Obama in going through all this crap. It's amazing all the stuff the Republicans are spreading about him...one thing right after another and they are not truthful.
Today, from old friends in AZ, received 3 identical emails reciting as absolute fact that as of 2013 with "Obama Care", at age 75 choices of surgeries and medical procedures will stop and an "Ethics" committee will decide if you can have the medical care. Medicare no longer will cover procedures if you are over 75. The emails were written as a call to anyone who isn't insane to get "Obama" out of office.
DeleteThese are not uneducated or stupid people; this "information" is being given to them as "fact" and since all 3 are over 70, they are frightened and sending the emails to long lists of recipients.
Where does this stuff come from? Why isn't it being stopped?
Interestingly enough, I plugged in your phrase, "as of 2013 with "Obama Care", at age 75 choices of surgeries and medical procedures will stop and an "Ethics" committee will decide if you can have the medical care" into Google, and the first thing that popped up was an Amazon.com forum discussion, where one moron kept insisting this, and a handful of others kept trying to present the facts to him.
Deletehttp://amzn.to/KNn0MT
This is how the RWNJ starts out his comment: "For those of you who complain about not having a link for this, you'll just have to deal with it. I have absolutely no doubt it is true; such guidelines are in the 2700 health care bill. Have I read it? No, but I know such new guidelines fit Mr. obama's philosophical policies."
THAT'S how these morons -- yes, they ARE stupid, even if they are educated -- disseminate their misinformation. Ya just gotta take their word for it!
Here's the Google results page where you can see the other RWNJ sites where this is being discussed.
http://bit.ly/LhTtGA
Exactly. If you do not research yuor information and look for bias' you are an idiot no matter how educated you are. Smart people don't get their political information from chain letters.
DeleteWow! typical Mormon male? Misleading and bigotry all in the same statement. Here are more facts for you. Since February of 2009, 18.1 million Americans have started receiving food stamps, that is a 70% increase. That is more than the last six presidents combined. Another fact: the federal deficit is approaching $16,000,000,000,000, and as you say Obama is increasing his spending not cutting it. Revenues are falling because of unfriendly business policies that keep businesses from hiring and growing and paying taxes on profits. Instead of creating an environment where businesses can grow so they start paying more taxes on profits, Obama is waging war on them with regulations and more taxes. You and he do not understand how a market economy works and will continue to a mess of the economy.
DeleteOr you know, recession.
Deleteunfortunately, most people would tend to not take your bias seriously
DeleteWhy are more Americans receiving food stamps, Mr. Gingrich? Perhaps because of the millions pushed into poverty due to malfeasance enabled by lower regulation? I'll make it simpler: If there are more poor, there will be more poor qualifying for SNAP (the actual name).
DeleteThe deficit, likewise, is driven in part by the lack of tax receipts. (The rest is driven by the Bush/Obama tax CUTS, two wars fought on the books NOW, as opposed to the wizard-like pretense under Bush, etc.).
See, you sort of hint that you know that by pretending that there's a "war on business" that keeps them from paying taxes and increasing public revenues.
I would ask which is it, but you likely can't answer. The recession lowers tax receipts, because unemployed people stop paying taxes and start collecting social benefits to keep the from starving. Weird how the economy is all sorta connected, ain't it?
Stop being a cartoon, if you can. But the problem is, you cannot. Because facts are against you. Entirely. Kudos on the Mormon bigotry, though. I'm with you on that. Delighted to meet a non-bigot conservative, where ya been for the past 4 years?
Obama raised the poverty line (which needed to be raised)the byproduct of that is that more people receive food stamps. The fact is the poverty line needed to be raised and Obama helped out hundreds of thousands Americans that are out of work. Here is another fact, Obama did not start the the national deficit, you can thank the Bush Administration for that. Obama was brought into a shitty situation and yet he has done a decent job making life a better situation for most Americans, all the while the Republicans by and large fight him every step of the way.
DeleteThen your answer would be... More regulations on business, result, business afraid to make investments in hiring. Raise taxes on the "rich", result, talented people moving to tax-friendlier countries. Increase spending on welfare programs to handle people not getting hired. Borrow more money from China to pay for out-of-work benefits. Raise more taxes on business cause they are the only ones making money. Too vicious a cycle. Get someone in there that will improve the environment for business to grow. Get people off the welfare rolls by putting them back to work. Cut the waste in Washington and live within our means.
Delete"Romney is your typical Mormon male. all they do is lie!!! " Really? you moron!
DeleteMormons are honest to a fault, but religion (and race) have nothing to do with it. The housing market still sucks, unemployment is still outrageously high, we still have thousands of troops in Iran and Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay is stilling open, national debt has increased and medicare, social security, and welfare are still broken. Obama failed. Plain and simple.
DeleteThe Clinton Administration was who deregulated the banks in which has caused this massive recession. Stop the BS buddy, maybe you should do a little homework yourself.
DeleteStates that are run by republicans are absolutely and undoubtedly operating fiscally responsible. Democrats are complete douche bags and need to take the red pill. Millions of americans are lying or stupid according to you morons.
Deleteone way to disarm an acquaintance that robotically tells you this lie is to respond, make your eyes get big, appalled and innocent, and say: "I know! I heard that too! I had to make sure and went to bipartisan.com and factcheck.org and found out it's just the opposite. These days with so much contradicting stuff out there, you have to take things in your own hands and check everything out to make sure it's true!"
ReplyDeleteIt's too bad that this tactic won't work for most of America. You have to remember that a large portion of Americans are lazy and would rather just believe anything they hear.
DeleteTried this tactic; failed. Their response was "You really trust those proven left-wing biased websites? OPEN YOUR EYES!!!"
DeleteTried the bipartisan.com and factcheck.org tactic on many right-wing friends; failed. Their response: "You really think those proven left-wing biased websites would tell you the TRUTH? OPEN YOUR EYES!!!"
DeleteThe GOP counts on the overall political stupidity of the American people to believe whatever they tell us, and it works. The Democrats on the other hand are gutless, and are constantly afraid to fight back. In summary, WE ARE FUCKED.
ReplyDeleteYou are correct on Dems afraid to fight back. But I am getting bolder this election cycle. I am anon 5:56 responding to my boss! Gutsy or stupid? She likes me so I will go with gutsy!
DeleteDamn, stop the negatism. If we get out the vote, we are NOT effed.
DeleteExactly right! Giving up is not an option.
DeleteI think the population as a whole can see that over the last four years they haven't had a raise or can't find a job. Have had to get on federal assistance for the first time and have lost their house or all the equity in it. The GOP doesn't need to say anything.
DeleteThis is how those who actually control the economy are able to influence the political landscape to ensure they get the deregulation they need to continue their parasitic behaviour. As soon as a politician who champions the best interests of the general population gets into power, they allow their house of cards to collapse and the economy to tank, with the intention of showing what will happen if they don't get their way.
DeleteYou are totally on drugs my friend and stop watching the conspiracy channel or CNN "Communist news channel". Stop making excuses for your vacant minded lefties, your all completely retarded and have no actual idea what your doing or saying. This president is succeeding to completely change the United states of America ie.. Religion, constitution, class warfare, race whoring and killing the American spirit. Way to go Lefty...you are part of the problem.
DeleteMy boss just said today that we must get "entitlements" under control or we would be in another recession due to deficits. I politely disagreed. Thank you for this article. I emailed to her. I don't normally do that but in 2008 she filled my email up with pro McCain/ Palin shit and also lies about Obama. I always debunked the lies with factcheck.org, etc. and sent her the link but was never the agressor in emails. I'm coming out of my shell! Coming from the WSJ gives some street cred this article for Repubs also, too!
ReplyDeleteGood work. Keep putting her in check.
DeleteYou are very brave. I hope you don't feel any negative concequences from coming out of your shell! I applaud you and send you a cyber hug!
DeleteBack in 2008, my boss looked me straight in the eye and told me that "Sarah Palin is going to be the next Vice President of the United States." He was dead serious, and I didn't say one word back to him about that statement. I don't work for him anymore.
DeleteThere is a reason she is your boss, she is smarter than you. The deficit will hit $16,000,000,000,000 very soon. This money that has been borrowed so Obama can increase spending again this year. Who is paying the interest on these loans??? You, me , and your boss. If you have no revenue because your policies are scaring businesses then you better cut spending to ease your interest payments. It is a vicious cycle.
DeleteI hear these "Policies" that scare business but can anyone name a few... or one? its just rhetoric that ppl use to deflect and scare others off. Example when dems talk about raising the tax for the rich, repubs will respond with "class warfare" "punishing the wealthy" When you talk about president obama cutting into the deficit, repubs will respond with "falling revenues" not because of the recesion, but because of "unfriendly business" policies that scare of business owners.
Deleteits always the same rhetoric and same scare tactics with the Republicans. dont take their words, research and read. Dont be scared and be a person of action, dont let things come to you. go out and get them.
So where does their 5 billion in spending number come from, or did they just make up a nice big number people could repeat?
ReplyDeleteThey made it up
DeleteThey pill it out of their asses and count on republican idiots to believe their bullshit.
DeleteAnd they count on the mainstream media to ignore it and pundits to let it pass when stated on television......
DeleteRomney is a pathological liar, and if the Dems don't VOTE and keep him out of office, our coutnry will be in deep trouble.
ReplyDeleteOur country will be in deep trouble???? We are in deep trouble. $16,000,000,000,000 in dept and still increasing spending? That is trouble.
DeleteQuestion: do you actually think ROMNEY is going to cut spending???? Hahahahhahahahhahahhahahah hahahahahha...hahahhahahahha
Deletehahahahhahahahahaahhahahahahhahahahahaha.
yes, Romney will cut spending. Its what conservative republicans do (except Bush, who was an idiot). less government, less handouts, and no more socializing healthcare. Romney 2012.
DeleteRandom, but I was chillin on facebook and came across something interesting.
ReplyDeleteAccording to number of fb shares:
Obama is most popular in Chicago (capital of thuggery), and most populated demographic is 18-24 yr olds (not surprising, their the ones who know the littlest about the world and how it works effectively)
Sarah is most popular in houston, as is W. Her most populated demographic is 35-54 yr olds, meaning moms in her age range who relate to her.
BRISTOL's most popular in NYC (my guess is journalists being told to report on her blog). her age group is 25-34 years old which doesn't surprise me.
"their" ?
Delete"littleist"?
Sarah is that you?
You should probably lower the dose on those post-surgery meds. They're making you dumber than usual. The fact is Sarah is only popular with creepy old white men so you can quit makin stuff up.
Sandy needs to see this rapper'ss beef about the mis-use your and you're. Their and they're are next, I hope, in his rap rant. Then it's on to its and it"s....
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=32p8d6OudgU
People do realize that Obama has admitted to bullying right?
ReplyDeleteROFL sarah troll is here! Next we'll see the words "thuggery" "immature" and "jealous".
DeleteAs a school boy, President Obama shoved a girl SO HARD she staggered back, and said "She's not my girlfriend", while being teased by a group of classmates.
DeleteAt 18, Mitt Romney gathered a bunch of his bully friends who held down a young man while Mitt cut his hair.
The incident with Coretta, which happened in a brief flash, haunted President Obama so deeply he included it in his memoirs (AND remembered her name!). Romney couldn't even recall the incident he premeditated and organized. He did give a conditional apology, but we all know conditional apologies are bullshit.
Do you see the difference? If President Obama hurt someone, even if it was 40 years ago, he feels remorse. If Romney hurts someone, he laughs it off. He doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone. Not even you.
Don't insult our intelligence with these false equivalencies.
Yeah, at age six he pushed a girl because he was being teased about being her boyfriend. It was a spontaneous reaction. And, he told this anecdote in his book, speaking about how badly he felt when he saw how hurt she was and how he learned an early lesson about 'bullying' and how it hurt his heart.
DeleteAs opposed to putting together a gang of boys at 18 years old and premeditatively attacking another student who was wearing his hair differently than others and holding him forcefully down and shearing his locks and crowing about it later.
And then there's the time that a head got shaved and red paint was poured on it. More bullying behavior as a young adult. But of course he doesn't remember any of this, however Obama WROTE ABOUT IT IN HIS LIFE STORY.
Mitt is a thug that thinks he's entitled to do whatever he wants to whoever he wants to. He's a nasty piece of work.
So, now, what was your point?
BIG fucking difference, so don't EVEN try to compare.
Anon 7:45 -- if you are too dumb to know when to use a comma, you are probably too thick to understand these replies.
DeleteThis is unrelated.
ReplyDeleteDear liberals,
For the most part, a person's past and personal life doesn't matter. You overlook President Clinton's, you overlook President Obama's, you ignore Biden gaffes, you ignore Dodd sexism, you uphold JFK still.
Stop living a double life.
Sincerely and with all :::cough::: respect,
New conservative
New conservative? Yeah right it's you the lying delusional stalker troll. We know who you are. Please start banning blatant liars Gryphen.
DeleteShut up troll.
DeleteOh, don't EVEN get me started. The list is sooooo long for nasty, GOP, conservatives who have cheated on their wives, uttered horrific words, stolen, lied, cheated in business and politics...all while claiming to be good christians. And let's not forget the illegal, illegitimate wars launched with lies to the American people, people tortured and dishonored in unimaginable ways, makes me sick to go on. I'll let the links speak for themselves.
Deletehttp://www.slate.com/features/2007/scandal_guide/scandalmap.html
http://dccc.org/index.php/corrupt/index/
http://www.dccc.org/page/-/CorruptGOP/main/2012.html
Oh, and by the way, what about President Obama's past? What is in his past that is so awful? I've yet to see something that I can ignore. The man is squeeky clean. He's deeply in love with his wife, he doesn't pimp out his children, he maintains long and enduring friendships, and he comes from a humble, middle class background, raised by his single mother and his grandparents in the heartland of the country.
So, what is so sinister about Obama's past? Yeah, thought so. Nothing comes to mind that isn't just a made up story to scare people about the black man in the White House.
And if being a new conservative is having your head up your ass, then you are on the road to redemption.
Get used to it Buttercup, you'll be ACTIVELY saying PRESIDENT Obama for the next 4 years because he will be spending them leading this country into the 21st Century, with you assholes kicking and screaming your bloody heads off, pissed as hell that a black man is far superior in intellect, leadership, fidelity, physical beauty, popularity, strength, courage, compassion, political skill, musical talent and grace. And HE LIVES IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
Just burns you right up, doesn't it?
You are an idiot, looking for trouble, in the wrong place.
Wow! Great post 9:34!
DeleteNot to deminish the truth of your statement, but I wouldn't exactly call Hawaii the heartland of the country...
DeleteNew Conservative,
DeleteI agree with you. Many aspects of a person's past are irrelevant. But, the disclosure (wanted or unwanted) of personal info. has become a mainstay of the vetting process--I doubt there is much we can do about it at this point. My problem is the conservative slant on the issue. When Fox News airs every detail of Obama's personal history (Bill A., Jerimiah R., etc.) they claim to be "doing what the mainstream media won't." But, when the same is done to Romney, they claim "the mainstream media (Fox has most viewers by the way) is attacking a conservative." Every politician goes through this (by all media outlets--the only thing that may differ is the AMOUNT of airplay), it is up to us to decide what is, and is not, important. It is the media's job to just put out as many of the facts as possible (relevant or not). A job that it does well--at least most of the time. There is no conspiracy.
To follow up on my last comment. "Libs," I am on your side here, but this article is a bit disingenuous. Yes, spending has leveled off. But, conservatives are right about the pure amount of spending. Spending has leveled off from year to year--but is still at a rate that is unsustainable and increasing the overall debt. I'm glad Obama has not increased spending, but it never should have gotten as out of hand as it did in the first place. That is what conservatives are worried about, and articles like this only further increase the divide. We need to acknowledge the spending, agree that it was Obama's call (and it may have been the right one) under our dire economic conditions, and then work together to decrease spending for the long-term future. Of course, that's easier said than done with some of the morons in congress right now.
DeleteBut you're missing the point - spending has been rising for a long, long time now. Reagan and Bush being the biggest part of that consistent rise in government spending (see first chart). The fact is Obama has leveled it off and this is the first time that has happened since Eisenhower, as the article points out. This is what needs to happen before anything gets fixed - and now that spending is leveled off, you know what we do? We lower it, slowly, but in the meantime we need to reallocate funds to the correct places and now is the perfect time to increase some high, marginal tax rates. These are all things Obama is doing, proactively, to bring some calm and relief to the country.
DeleteJesse, I so wanted to share this article with your readers. Although I have seen this image many times, the story told, and the COMMENTS make it all the sweeter. I found myself so braced to hear horrific attacks on our lovely president, but NO, each comment expressed how moved they were by the story, the image and our president. And yeah, it's the NY Times, so it's a wide open audience, and still,
ReplyDeleteHere are just a few...be SURE to take the time to savour how much these commentors honor and love President Obama and the man of stature and humanity that he is.
"A man of rare and great heart. Instead of responding in typical fashion to the question, by patting Jacob on the head and declaring that yes, his hair was just like the President's, President Obama gave the gift of discovery and knowing to Jacob.
And yes, I too like many commentators, was moved to tears by the eloquence and humanity of Obama's gesture."
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"It's important to know that someone who leads the most powerful country in the world can relate to the likes of all the rest of us. I'm not five years old, not African American. I'm white, past 65, and I know that our president--and the brilliant people engaged with him in the leadership of our country--are thinking about the likes of me and my gray hair."
"I don't share many of President Obama's views politically, however, I do have to say that this photograph is beautiful. It may be imperfect in its composition, but the emotion that it conveys is truly touching....even to a Republican."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/24/us/politics/indelible-image-of-a-boys-pat-on-obamas-head-hangs-in-white-house.html?_r=3
Some very well expressed commentors can be found under this article. It made me feel very hopeful that the 'silent majority' tends to miss midterm elections, but they come out in droves for presidential ones. The tone of the writer and the commentors was deeply comforting. I grow so very tired of the vitriol and media frenzy at every word being parsed and misinterpreted and the downright LIES about the Obama Administration and Obama specifically, so stumbled into this kind of goodness, compelled me to jump right over to IM and share. I hope you and your readers enjoy it as much as I did.
Someone should put together a few videos of these poignant shots, with kids, at Gabby's bedside, with Michelle, with his girls, with seniors, with soldiers, with disaster victims, with 911 families...they all find comfort in his presence. He is so filled with Light.
YES WE CAN
YES WE DID
FORWARD Obama 2012 LANDSLIDE!
I'M IN!!!
O/T I've heard some people are having a hard time trying to contact Lifetime about Bristol's show. Well they ARE on facebook and there IS a section about the show.....
ReplyDeleteYes, desperate people do and say desperate things. For example, Who, in their right mind would post some bullshit and sign it "New Conservative"? Someone who's voting for Romney, the polar opposite of ::cough:: "conservative"? Someone who ignores Palin, Regan the divorced actor and iran contra, Ensign's "gaffes" ::snort::, GWBush's eight year record?, Craig's "Wide Stance".......
ReplyDeleteI suppose I should Google it so I sound smarter, but going by just memory, wasn't it one of HITLER's boys who got famous for saying how telling a "BIG LIE" can work out swell, if you simply tell it often enough?
ReplyDeleteWhen you see such COMPLETE bullshit stuff coming out of the mouths of the rightwing radicals (and SO often it is the EXACT SAME words, in the same order) you naturally expect "SOMEONE" to loudly call them on it.
Like a Dan Rather. Sadly for us, today, there are no longer any bold journalists willing to take the heat for digging up the truth.
"The expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, about the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone 'could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.'"
Delete...like Sarah's fake pregnancy? Just to name one.
DeleteThis is the biggest bunch of BS I've ever read...how much Fear Factor donkey semen have you drank while writing this crap?
ReplyDeleteThis might be too hard for your brain to understand, so stick to talking about wrestling.
DeleteI'm curious... Your chart makes no mention of debt, so how do you come to the conclusion that Romney was wrong? My numbers are off, I'm sure, but I seem to remember the debt near doubling in the last four years.
ReplyDeleteAlso, spending went up a lot for TARP, which was supposed to be a one-time thing... Yet Obama kept spending at TARP levels.
They are not including any bailout money of any kind. $8.5 trillion was the last estimate on the bailout money. http://www.bubbleeconomy.com/bailout/how-much-money-exactly-in-billions-did-the-us-government-bailout-companies-with But Obama had nothing to do with the use of bailout money according to this article. I put the truth somewhere in between.
DeleteDoesn't matter what links Gryphen posted for you to follow, you will still do this....
ReplyDelete"The Right Wing will NEVER believe that they are wrong about this no matter how many times they are shown the facts,"
Very enlightening charts. I mean, I didn't know Bush was President in 2009, nor did I know that the TARP bill and stimulus bills that President Obama signed into law could be attributed to Bush.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Bush can push off some of his spending on Clinton, or maybe OBL, since there was a recession when Bush came into office, and OBL caused another one.
Blame shifting at its finest.
This might help to clarify.
DeleteFrom the article: "What people forget (or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress. The president only begins to shape the budget in his second year."
The 2009 spending WAS left over George W. Bush spending.
Also, I thought Congress passes a budget and not necessary the President dictating what is spent. Obama was part of the Congress 2006-2008. So is he not in anyway responsible for this.
DeleteMy assertion that President Obama has "won the war terrorism" was somewhat tongue in cheek.
ReplyDeleteWhile obviously nobody can win a war on an such a thing, what Obama did, by killing Bin Laden, was win the confidence of the American people back that this war can now come to an end.
In the minds of most Americans the "big bad" was Osama Bin Laden, and with him gone people now have hope that we have defeated a monster and can now move forward toward peace.
It may not be entirely accurate, but then again neither was the idea that we could wage a war (With bombs and bullets even) against hatred toward America.
The cool thing about these graphs is they are complete bunk. It turns out Rex Nutting, author of the phony Marketwatch chart above, attributes all spending during Obama's entire first year, up to Oct. 1, to President Bush....see how that works?
ReplyDeleteYes, and all President Obama, or our news media, or anyone has to do when one of these conservative blowhards trot out that worn canard is ask them to SHOW ME THE DATA!
ReplyDeleteShow me a chart that proves that, please.
Show me a graph.
Show me the numbers
Why don't Democrats just politely ask to see the proof?
Here are the numbers:
DeleteSum of surplus/deficit 1789-2008: $5.326088 trillion
Sum of surplus/deficit 2009-2012: $5.33272 trillion
Therefore, the US government under Obama has overspent all previous administrations since our founding.
And here is the OMB source:
http://tinyurl.com/6usk5zb
Sure, you cut enough entitlement programs like $300 billion from Medicare and Medicaid, you can make yourself look like a better Republican than the Republicans! Of course a win on the war on terrorism is basically a win for Wall Street and the military industrial complex.
ReplyDeleteYea but he signed the health care bill which isn't factored into this, which will cost TRILLIONS. Also, how does an $800 billion stimulus NOT factor into this? This chart is BS. How could the spending rise by less than $500 billion if spending is increased by almost a full trillion dollars. Just like how the unemployment data is tampered with as well. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY!!! Think SHEEPLE!
ReplyDeleteSpending may be less with Obama but that doesn't mean our national and public debt (there is a difference) has not rose uncontrollably. During the Bush years (both terms) he added 4.9 TRILLION dollars to the national debt 4.9 which began at 5.7 TRILLION dollars. Obama on the other hand has added about 5.1 TRILLION dollars in just one term as president. Obama started with a debt of 10.6 TRILLION dollars and now is about 15.7 TRILLION dollars. I can imagine though that a lot of that debt was going to raise regardless due to Bush's objectives and want to be in a war. PEOPLE BE CONCERNED WITH THE EVER RAISING DEBT because one day our government may try to fix it through the people which means about 30,000 dollars from each of us.
ReplyDeleteI'm a fairly liberal guy, but let's get this right. Romney is correct that the debt has increased as much as almost all of the rest combined. Obama's ADDITIONS to spending did not increase like the rest, but he's still spending what others were.
ReplyDeleteThe debt went up enormously not because Obama increased spending, but because he did not reverse what other presidents did.
Let's not try and call out a liar by telling lies ourselves.
You realize that "debt" and "spending"are different things, right? Nothing in this post addresses Romney's claims regarding debt accumulation. If I spend the same next year as I did this year, but lose my job somewhere in the middle, I've accumulated a lot more debt. Tax receipts are down, so any increase in spending raises the debt moreso.
ReplyDeleteEVERYBODY IS BIASED
ReplyDeleteI see your point, the claim should be revised.
ReplyDeleteObama has spent more money [that we don't have] than any other President. Look at a historical graph of the US national debt, like this one: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/USDebt.png/300px-USDebt.png.
Your graph is not nearly as relevant as one showing our historical debt increase. If the economy worsens, and there are less tax revenues, but you don't really decrease your spending to compensate, you are still spending more money [that you do not have].
Fiscally responsible households don't run a monthly budget that spends all of their income and then adds money to their credit cards each month.
It's unfair to blame Obama solely for this, particularly since he had a lot more problems to inherit than his predecessor when he took office. It's a few decades of terrible policies and trying to do too much, not one man.
thank you for showing these sheeple the truth good sir.
ReplyDeleteDoes congress control spending or not ?
ReplyDeleteYour public school math has betrayed you. Confusing rate with volume is a common problem for self-important left-wing bloggers. I think Family Guy is on...
ReplyDeleteI doubt this comment will be read but...
ReplyDeleteThe first graph presented in the article shows the percent increase in government spending from year to year so although Obama did not increase spending as much as Bush, he is still increasing spending.
According to this chart on wikipedia federal spending has increased to its highest rate in 30 years while the tax revenue has dropped to its lowest rate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Revenue_and_Expense_to_GDP_Chart_1993_-_2008.png
For a more formal source look at Table 1.1 on this government website.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals/
As for the second chart, the table on the government website I linked to above does not show a decrease in spending over the next few years, but rather a continued increase. According to the whitehouse.gov spending is projected to increase to $3.80 trillion in 2012 and $3.88 trillion in 2013, a 5% and 2.1% increase respectively.
As for the claim that Obama has spent more than all other presidents combined that does sound like a bit of hokum to me, although I do remember a similar claim during the Bush administration that he also spend more than all his predecessors combined.
Just for clarity I do not agree with the rampant spending by Obama nor with Bush's excessive spending. Over the past few years I think the government has formed the ideology that it is not just acceptable to have a deficit, but almost necessary. Government spending needs to be decreased so the power and credibility of the U.S. does not decline. (For those of you who looked at the links, the gap between the blue line and the purple bar needs to decrease.)
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ReplyDeleteYeah, the interesting thing is you don't comment on revenue. Or the fact that Obama has spent more money than any single president, and at least 80% of what all other presidents have spent combined. So, the GOP wasn't that far off. They made a little jump, but not a big one. Nobody is talking about the "annualized growth of federal spending." You changed the issue so you could make his bar charts look smaller than they should be.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/jul/10/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obama-will-add-more-debt-4/
It's all there. So while according to a blogger "Mitt Romney is a fucking liar" (way to keep mature and non-bias when debating, really), you are biased and ignorant.
Here's my comment ~ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/dec/16/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-obama-has-racked-much-debt-almost/
ReplyDeleteYou lost me at "won the war on terror".
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ReplyDeleteHence why I am Physician and not a Politician. Both republicans and democrats are corrupt; it is either people are biased, misleading, and have their own agenda OR, they are ignorant and futile (I'm banking on the latter). Our Founding Fathers came here to LEAVE the corrupt dictatorship that was ruling England at the time. We don't need another dictator. How about instead of slapping them (the Founding Fathers) in the face, we lead lives that support and compliment their morals and objectives, which inevitably made us the most transcendent nation in history. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteHence why I am Physician and not a Politician. Both republicans and democrats are corrupt; it is either people are biased, misleading, and have their own agenda OR, they are ignorant and futile (I'm banking on the latter). Our Founding Fathers came here to LEAVE the corrupt dictatorship that was ruling England at the time. We don't need another dictator. How about instead of slapping them (the Founding Fathers) in the face, we lead lives that support and compliment their morals and objectives, which inevitably made us the most transcendent nation in history. Thanks.
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