You know to me this should simply be the universal point of view in this country, IN fact it is the very point of view that our nation was founded on. And yet we find ourselves becoming more and more irrational when it comes to religion, and less and less rational when it comes to reason.
BTW for those who are uncertain that this quote is indeed Obama's you can find it here in this rather famous speech. (Link fixed now.)
And the version that will air on Faux Noise:
ReplyDelete"In a secular society the religious must translate their concerns into universal socialism rather than religious values. Their proposals should not be accorded any respect."
President Barack Hussein Obama
There, fixed that for ya!
Your link to the speech isn't functioning, but like the excerpt. Hope you fix it!
ReplyDeleteNo kidding!
ReplyDeleteRomney Campaign Releases “With Mitt” iPhone App, Misspells “America”:
http://theobamadiary.com/2012/05/30/rise-and-shine-193/
If you think they're not serious about getting that damn black guy out of the White House, you know, that wonderful, compassionate, intelligent, kind, funny, brilliant, humble, reasonable black guy who can run circles around them all, then THINK AGAIN.
ReplyDeleteA BILLION DOLLARS to try and stop him from all the positive things he is doing so they can put in their automotron candidate who will bend over for anyone to politically fuck him in the ass. Yep, they're dead serious and it is up to US to stop them.
If we don't, we are in for a world of pain for the next 4 years with EVERYTHING progressive that has ever happened in this country rolled back decades, so the old white guys will run the show, the corporations will finally and fully take over, the banks will run wild and the poor will get poorer. I truly hope that everyone really GETS how critical this is.
If you value your way of life, your religious freedom and your pocketbook, then DO SOMETHING to help the reelection of President Obama. Please?
GOP groups plan record $1 billion blitz
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76849.html
Right-Wing Billionaires Behind Mitt Romney
ReplyDeleteThey're trying to buy a presidency - and they expect a big payoff on their investment
Presidential politics has always been a rich man's game. But now, thanks to the Supreme Court ruling in Citizens United that upended decades of limits on campaign donations, financing a presidential race is the exclusive domain of the kind of megadonor whose portfolios make Mitt Romney look middle-class. "I have lots of money, and can give it legally now," Texas billionaire and top GOP moneyman Harold Simmons recently bragged to The Wall Street Journal. "Just never to Democrats."
In past elections, big donors like Simmons gave millions for advocacy groups like Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. By law, such groups were only allowed to run issue ads – but instead they directly targeted John Kerry, drawing big fines from the Federal Elections Commission. Now, with the blessing of the Supreme Court, the wealthy can legally hand out unlimited sums to groups that openly campaign for a candidate, knowing that their "dark money" donations will be kept entirely secret. The billionaire Koch brothers, for instance, have reportedly pledged $60 million to defeat President Obama this year – but their off-the-book contributions don't appear in any FEC filings.
Even more money from megadonors is flowing into newly created Super PACs, which, unlike advocacy groups, can spend every cent they raise on direct attacks on an opponent. Under the new rules, the richest men in America are plying candidates with donations far beyond what Congress intended. "They can still give the maximum $2,500 directly to the campaign – and then turn around and give $25 million to the Super PAC," says Trevor Potter, general counsel of the Campaign Legal Center. A single patron can now prop up an entire candidacy, as casino magnate Sheldon Adelson did with a $20 million donation to the Super PAC backing Newt Gingrich.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/right-wing-billionaires-behind-mitt-romney-20120524
So the Romney campaign wants to "fix" what it can't even spell??? Oh yeah, that's boosted my confidence in his abilities.... NOT! Honestly, how can these ass-clowns expect anyone to take them seriously? Even Screech usually has a correctly spelled ghost written rant. Notice I say nothing about grammar, syntax, sense, facts - all that is just detail and she has no need for detail
ReplyDeleteAmericans have a choice to make on Election Day 2012, a choice between a sitting president even liberals and progressives may not always agree with – sometimes strongly – and the running lapdog of extremist right-wing interests: the anti-government corporatist Tea Party and the closely aligned anti-government fundamentalist Christian – both in flirtation with white supremacists.
ReplyDeleteBarack Obama may not be everything we thought he was going to be when we elected him, but few would disagree that he has been a game-changer in many (if not all) ways, after eight years of the catastrophic Bush administration. He has put the brakes on the worst excesses of that administration,
http://www.politicususa.com/americas-choices-2012.html
And he's done a lot more - think Iraq, think Osama bin Laden, think finding ourselves welcome in the world of nations, think health care improvements (if not the total universal single-payor healthcare that many of us dream of), think LGSBT community, think improving benefits for returning veterans and their families, think giving people of all ethnic backgrounds hope in the future.
ReplyDeletePresident Obama has overcome so many obstacles (most of them put in the way by the Republican obstructionists in Congress) that I think he is simply amazing. I am not worried about this country while he is president. Both he and Vice President Biden are working hard for all of us, not for the 1%.
Beaglemom
Beaglemom, I can't agree more! This humble man won a nobel peace prize BEFORE most of these accomplishments, and earned it despite the obstruction, racism, and covert corporate donations with one mission, and one mission alone, to destroy a Sitting President, not because of the content of his character, but just because they cannot abide a man of color in the White House.
DeleteWell said, Mr. President.
ReplyDeleteAnd that goes for school curricula as well as general laws and regulations.
Wow, I love this quote. Bookmarked the page because I'm always trying to articulate his point but I do it so poorly and long-windedly and probably just confuse others! This is all we ask as non believers. If everyone treated the law in this manner there'd be no need to fight against religion. Unfortunately for atheists, most religious people don't respect this. And particularly his last sentence is very important too do you agree Gryphen? A religious argument should not be treated as superior simply because it's religious. It amazes me how many even rational nice people think of religious people as nicer and more generous than a non believer.
ReplyDeleteThis religious person says, "Right on!"
ReplyDeleteGosh, I truly and deeply respect President Obama. I love his intellect, his calm reason, and his ability to speak the truth even if it drives the far right crazy.
ReplyDeleteHe lives his faith but keeps his personal religious beliefs personal, as they should be.
I have always been suspect of anyone who wears their religion like a badge that they have show off to everyone else, and I certainly disrespect anyone to demands their religious beliefs are the only ones that count.
Thankfully, we have have a President who understands this and does us proud. Let's keep him in office! I join others here in urging everyone to vote and to work to get out the vote for Obama-Biden 2012!!
Our President is tough to read.
ReplyDeleteIn some ways, he seems to do great. In some ways, he may be even worse than any of his predecessors.
I am quite unlikely to vote for him again, but I am not clear on who I might waste my vote on.
http://www.americablog.com/2012/05/how-does-targeted-assassination-work-in.html
You are u clear on who you might waste your vote on???
DeleteYour only other choice is Mitt. Good luck with that.
Jill Stein? Maybe.
DeleteJack Anderson? Maybe.
Gary Johnson? Unlikely, but possible.
Mitt Romney? No chance at all!
Barack Obama? Unlikely, but possible.
I don't see any good choices.
Chutulhu? Why vote for the _lesser_ evil?
The Rude Pundit as worthwhile words.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.democraticunderground.com/1002743730
I love the quote, but loved the entire speech in the link puts it all in a context that's pretty hard to argue with.
ReplyDeleteI also checked out the "yoism.org" site, It's kind of a non religion based on taoist and buddhist "ish" secularism, some of it makes sense. Their "heaven is on earth" tagline makes sense.
Thanks for providing the link, saves a some folks lives a little easier.
Gryph, thanks for the quote and the link. I'm curious when this speech was given. The YouTube video was posted in 2008, but Obama looks much younger. Perhaps this was when he was in the State Legislature? Any info you can provide on the original date would be appreciated.
ReplyDeleteThanks.
~physicsmom