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Monday, June 04, 2012
The ADN provides undercover video of Schaeffer Cox discussing murder plans with his co-defendants and FBI informant. Update!
This video is courtesy of Kyle Hopkins over at ADN and this is how he describes what it shows:
Cox, in his trademark newsboy's cap, says he could tolerate going to jail, but it would be "killing time" if the authorities took his family; Vernon and Cox talk about going to war against authorities; and Cox thinks that the only thing keeping the authorities from killing him is the "cost" that would be inflicted by the militia, but later says he doesn't think the militia is strong enough to sustain a long-term conflict.
The last two clips, taken with Olson's hidden camera and two more hidden in his vehicle, are of the "take down" sting on March 10, 2011, first of Vernon (in front passenger seat) and his wife Karen, then of Cox (in rear seat) and codefendant Coleman Barney as each examines a silencer-equipped .22 pistol and a hand grenade obtained from an FBI informant.
The Cox and Barney bust was compromised when a man walked up and pointed out the "whole line of guys out there with bulletproof vests."
Yeah I think this is pretty compelling evidence, and I don't think the defense's attempt to blame this whole thing on William Fulton, or FBI entrapment, will hold much sway over the jury after they see this.
I am currently trying to get the MSM to pay attention to the connections between this case, Palin, and the new chairman of the Alaska GOP. There is more that connects Schaeffer Cox to Russ Millette, but I need the help of reputable journalists to dig it out and bring it to the attention of the American people.
The important fact to keep in mind is that this GOP takeover was originally orchestrated by Palin and her goons almost eight years ago, and has only NOW come to fruition through the co-opting of the Ron Paul movement. In essence the AIP, 2nd Amendment Task Force, and various militia groups have taken over Alaska politics.
By the way, I checked in with my sources again, and for those of you who doubted the impact of Fulton's admission in court the other day that he was introduced to Cox by Palin operatives Joe Miller and Frank Bailey, my understanding is that it sent a shock wave through the courtroom, and also got attention of federal law enforcement.
However in order for the resources needed to investigate this to be provided by the Feds there really kind of needs to be some interest on the part of journalists. In other words, the Feds are somewhat wary about really going after this angle (Blame the Ted Stevens debacle.), but will feel compelled to do so if there is enough heat on them from the public at large.
So while Geoffrey Dunn's Huffington Post article was a very good start, we really need to keep spreading this connection far and wide.
And just to add a little more drama and sense of urgency, what is happening in Alaska to the Republican party is ALSO taking place all across the country, but it is just not catching the attention of the local reporters.
In my opinion things are about to get VERY scary, very quickly if people don't wake up to what is taking place right under their noses.
Update: News is filtering out of the courthouse that Schaeffer Cox has now requested that he be named co-counsel so that he can help defend himself and question witnesses. Apparently he does not think his lawyer is doing an adequate job.
And just when you thought this trial could not get anymore entertaining!
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Mommy is a madame and Daddy is a pimp?
ReplyDelete"Madame with some Tea Partyers in Wasilla"
http://tinyurl.com/tease-party-madame
"As I've surfed around the past several months, I've noticed that a lot of the principles that the Tea Partyers espouse are the same principles that Madame espouses. In fact, a lot of people see Madame as the leader of such a movement. Many people have called Madame a conservative populist."
http://tinyurl.com/werkinItouchi
Guilt By Association?
http://tinyurl.com/associated-guilt
What does Bristol stuffing her face with ice cream and her friend walking on a street have to do with this post? Your second link couldn't be found. Go play with your kids Brissy.
DeleteI found all of them. Your equipment may be faltering.
DeleteHere is the link.
Deletehttp://theworldofhowey.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/guilt-by-association/
It looks to me as if Sarah's mother and daughter both do some questionable palling around. The question is, guilt by association? Or will more vermin be crawling out from the rocks?
Deletehttp://www.joemcginniss.net/tag/jeremy-morlock
As I understand, it is a very small town with tight friendships and associations. Like the Morlocks and Palins some go back many years and through thick and thin they stick together. If not it is more like the Hatfields and the McCoys.
The comments at HP are really rolling now and not staying very long in moderation. i think the Palin grifting train has come to a stop..when will she appear on Hannity and cry victim AGAIN.....
ReplyDeleteI am so ready for this to be it. Keep it rolling. Coming up is a palling gig as social media's darling. Her answer it Netroots. Thank you Mansour's nephew.
DeletePalling around with THE PIMP impersonator . http://tinyurl.com/o-keefe-CAUGHT
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/convicted-criminal-james-okeefe-dupes-right
James O'Keefe and Sarah Palin will be headlining June 15-16.
http://nation.foxnews.com/sarah-palin/2012/06/04/palin-rally-conservative-online-army
Social media experts... Palin’s forte– engaging people in social media in ways that convince them to become more politically active.
Example: http://www.popeater.com/2011/02/09/bristol-palin-political-office/
Besides giving the keynote address, Palin is set to introduce two films: Hating Breitbart and Occupy Unmasked.
I still think repeatedly clicking on Dunne's story at HP will guarantee it stays posted. Right now story is posted twice on politics page of hp. once in left "blog" column & also with a picture of the shrew in the middle column, half way down. If it's clicked repeatedly and has high comment count it might get posted on front page...
ReplyDeleteThe same thing almost happened in LA at their convention. Fortunately the adults in the room (not Paul supporters) had the Paul supporters escorted" from the room as they tried to disrupt the proceedings. Think shouting, ,police, broken fingers, dislocated hip... what a mess.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.examiner.com/article/ron-paul-supporters-arrested-as-la-gop-shreveport-convention-splits-two
So some people get it.
Gryphen!
ReplyDeleteAs an update, post the picture of Sally Heath with these guys! There may not be any photos of Sarah with them but her MOM was sure "pallin' around"!
Agree. That is some photo. The photo up thread is Sarah at the same Tea Party as Sally Heath with Fulton. 9/12/09
Delete"Madame with some Tea Partyers in Wasilla"
Unfortunately, not finding photos with Sarah the militia. She did make an appearance at the Wasilla event. How many people were there?
She did, as a "surprise" guest speaker.
DeleteGoogle it to find write ups and vidios.
Also too, it was held at the Mernard Sports arena, what a qowinkidink
DeleteTry this for the pic..
Deletehttp://sarahpalinhasaserpentsheart.blogspot.com/2012/01/does-sally-heath-pall-around-with.html
When she does show her botoxed mug on Fox, you can bet no one will mention this. The question is, can she resist trying to defend herself and Toad and thus opening the door to questions? She has in the past hinted at issues that had nothing to do with the conversation. Should get interesting.
ReplyDeleteIsn't she to be on Fox any time now? Neil Cavuto? She has an appearance June 15-16 at the wannabe Netroots. Up threat @ 10:42.
DeleteI bet she will project. It will be unsolicited. It is her consciousness of guilt.
DeleteThe radical left and radical right are the problems in America, equal problems. Both sides hitched (or tried to hitch) their rides to people like Obama and Palin despite those politicians personal views. Both sides cannot be ignored. There are definitely good people on both sides and those people should not be grouped with the crazies. The crazies have surpassed using their onetime vehicles (Obama and Palin) and now feel empowered.
ReplyDeleteIt's time to look past the vehicles and go after just the crazies: Cox and those named folks, other righty orgs with impure motives (though most aren't dangerous), leftie orgs that have ulterior motives.
@10:45
DeleteEqual problems?
1. Bite me.
2. Get help.
This is one of the most disturbing--and obscene--videos I've seen in my decades. Absolutely chilling.
These people and their evil familiar, Sarah Palin (AIP) are dangerous. We must stop them from their violent instigations and from any participation the public discourse.
Radical lefties - er, those might be the Libertarians in the sense that they would be the polar opposite of the far-right. Ron Paul ironically wants to be head of a government he believes should not exist. The far right wants government up women's private parts, creating profits for the wealthy, and telling people what Thou Shall and Shall Not Do.
DeleteThe GOP wants to transform our government into their own mega-Bain Capital, generating profits for all their corporate investors (which they themselves invest in - check out Romney's latest financial report).
Radical lefties? Yeah, sure, uh-huh - time to take your meds.
Nice fucking try, 10:45. Sarah Palin is clearly and closely associated with these nutjobs, especially her butt boy Joe Miller. Not just "pallin' around" with terrorists...CONSPIRING with them.
Delete@10:45, The RIGHT WING orgs ARE the most dangerous.
Delete10:45, no matter hiw many times you couple Palin with Pres Obama, she will NEVER be elevated to his stature.
DeleteDemocratic Underground has a post going now about this! Check it out:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.democraticunderground.com/1002761448#top
the empty headed palin's WERE very useful to the aip & its friends
ReplyDeleteDidn't she make a speech to the AIG group when she was governor? Seems I read something about it!
DeleteSarah Palin, addresses Alaskan Independent Party convention.
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI
Also Dexter Clark, vice chairman of the Alaska Independence party confirming that Sarah Palin was once a member of the AIP.
Meet Joe Vogler (Sarah Palin's AIP Pal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UOhJ2wEnJ4
The last one connects to the deep hate for our country. You feel why McCain and Palin would not want the public to know she had any associates that detest America so much. Most of all while Palin was projecting and attacking the competion with exaggeration and made up boloney.
Again the false equivalency argument.
ReplyDeleteSorry, the GOP, same tea right, is now somewhere way past Pluto.
Thankfully the center right, center, and to the left of center are still on this planet. Concerned with the rest of humanity than being for the 1%, being more than corporate lackeys, or doing so much to bring about Christian sharia, USA Taliban theocracy, mucking things up so their Jesus will come back sooner and rapture a few people up to some fantasy place.
In other words, most of us have to live in the real world, actually compromise and work now on behalf of the forgotten 99% of people everywhere, worldwide, their needs. Yet it's hard to compromise with people on a very Right limited religious and political agenda. They're more worried about making a buck while pretending to be pro-life and saving people's souls. There is nothing conserving for future generations with so called conservatives.
The center right and center (is of course, to the left of the Right). Why it's so easy to waaaaah that they're such leftists.
Trying to paint President Obama and his supporters with the same brush, as in waaaaah, both sides do it, is dishonest and false.
You want to stand up by your claim, give specific examples (and not from a Right news sources, online or mainstream media: Fox or TeaNN) of what exactly Obama or his supporters have done that is comparable to anything on the Right.
Comparable especially to anything associated directly or indirectly with Sarah Palin.
So, give specific examples of to back up your statement. Otherwise, it's just more Right waaaaah. Smoke and mirrors. Don't pay attention to their corporate puppet masters pulling their minion tea puppets strings. Ignore their wizards behind the curtain. Etc.
Well said.
DeleteThanks. Also, if it's not clear, my response was to 10:45 AM, above.
DeletePL., you can reply directly to 10:45.
DeleteMy only surprise in all this is that Cox actually has the wherewithal to realize the militia is strong enough to sustain a long-term conflict.
ReplyDeleteA Woodward and Bernstein type journalist is needed here, hell, Rollingstone and Vanity Fair are as top notch and adequate to delve into this one.
what about shushanne walsh, or she is too much in palin's pocket?
ReplyDeleteWalsh went over the darker side a while back and undermined her own credibility with pom-poms flashing for her dear Sarah.
DeleteThe front page of HuffPo now features a small headline entitled "Sketchy Palin Ties" beneath, of all things, a picture of a snarling Dick Cheney.
ReplyDeletePalin and Cheney belong together! He creeps me out as much as she and Todd do!
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DeleteTHE SARAH PALIN CURSE CONTINUES
ReplyDeletePalin Associates Charged with Conspiracy to Kidnap and Murder
http://malialitman.wordpress.com/2012/06/04/palin-associates-charged-with-conspiracy-to-kidnap-and-murder/#comment-44050
The Sarah Palin Curse doesn't only affect who Sarah politically endorses, but her associates too.
Not only her Sarah's associates. Her dear little mother's very sweet face with her militia pals. She does look so pleased and proud. It must be heartbreaking the Palin curse would cause disgrace and misery to her militia pals.
DeleteIs anybody really surprised at all this? It's not even the tip of the iceberg.
ReplyDeleteBack in 2008 when this was posted, people knew about Sarah Palin
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Palin's Governance: Vindictive, Secretive, and Hypocritical
Throughout her political career, she has pursued vendettas, fired officials who crossed her and sometimes blurred the line between government and personal grievance, according to a review of public records and interviews with 60 Republican and Democratic legislators and local officials. ...
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/9/14/114637/836
She lost the election and they lost interest except for the POTUS tease she kept up to increase her coffers.
DeleteBut she's baaaack. She's "armed" and she's dangerous.
so sarah palin is not america's friend
ReplyDeleteshe is america's enemy!
when she called north korea an ally
she was serious! :o
Has Andrew Sullivan been informed of the testimony, video, and other news on Palin's militia?
ReplyDeleteI so hope the two of them are investigaged, put on trial and end up in the slammer! It appears they could go after them on many investigations in Alaska!
ReplyDeleteSick and tired and tired and sick of Sarah Palin!
May someone should tell Breitbart's non-news blog that if anyone palled around with terrortists it was Palin.
ReplyDeletehttp://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/40436_-Breitbart.com_Bombshell_Exclusive-_Professor_Did_Not_See_Barack_Obama_at_Bill_Ayers_House!
Breitbart's non-news love criminals.
DeleteTerrorists meet their standards.
So Cox wants to help defend himself--huh? Scheaffer runs with idiots so he thinks he's a Mensa. Luckily, defending himself will give him a big assed fool for a client. Watch the idiotic pontificating start. Then he'll want to adjourn to Denny's and threaten more judges if they don't let him.
ReplyDeleteInteresting that Schaeffer wasn't so fatherly when he was punching his wife going sixty miles an hour down the highway with his child in the back seat. Typical abusive idiot.
Did you catch that his young son was in the room while his father spoke of killing? That can't go over too well with child services.
Deletechild services... in Alaska?
DeleteHuffington buried Dunns article.
ReplyDeleteno, it's in 2 places on the politics page with a pic of the shrew.
DeleteThere are nearly 600 comments with another 60 in the wings. All since noon today. HP is paying attention.... now will they follow through?
DeleteFrancis August Schaeffer Cox looks like such a nice young man. Phillip Munger spoke well of their meeting. By his looks it is hard to believe he is so dangerous. ( accused of masterminding a murderous revenge plot aimed at law enforcement and judicial officials.)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2011/summer/alaska-militia-leaders-revolution-falls-flat
When did Bill Fulton sell Spenards? There is the house sports complex connection too. Such close associations, so many different closets for skeletons to dwell.
ReplyDeleteGryph, what has caused you to change your mind about this stuff?
ReplyDeleteA year ago, you scoffed at your readers posting serious comments about the 2nd Amendment Task Force and Norm Olson, previous commander of Michigan Militia and connected to McVeigh and Oklahoma City.
You characterized them as nothing more than a bunch of little boys playing army in the backyard. Remember?
There's a HUGE bunch of us with the same concerns we've always had.
> Active military off the base "moonlighting" as private security forces. Alaska's little junior Blackwater.
This is concerning for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the military being compromised. Joe Miller an attorney in Fairbanks government offices. His wife on the Judicial Council.
> They haven't yet mentioned Norm Olson's role here. Olson is the Alaska militia head honcho. A huge secured property down on the Kenai. IRS tax-exempt 501c3 charitable non-profit status as a "church".
Regular on-line forum postings giving advice on how militia folks can come up to Alaska, how to get guns through Canada, etc etc.
> His relationship to David Luntz, a Delta Junction man who works on Fort Greeley and openly uses his military email to communicate and schedule militia activities.
> The Seward Highway is the only road access, ingress/egress to the entire Kenai peninsula south of Anchorage.
Same for the Glenn Hwy to the north. Just one road into Valdez.
People have NOT been overreacting. Alaskans are rightfully worried about vulnerability to unmonitored irrational crazy freaks with stockpiles of guns who believe that those who don't agree with them are the enemy to be taken out.
This same group of people tend to be the folks advocating violence against gays, and like the idea of putting 'em in a concentration camp with a big electrified fence until they die off.
So I'm glad you're viewing this in a more serious light. Even if it's only because you see a Palin connection.
You characterized them as nothing more than a bunch of little boys playing army in the backyard. Remember?
DeleteI think when you live around them and know them as some do in Alaska you see the front they put on. Shaffer Cox, son of a preacher, is like many kids up there {at first glance}. He is kind of kind looking. Possibly has a charming personality.
The right wing blogs I've read talk about them as they do Palins. Hardworking, nicest folk you want to meet, wonderful family and the same old rhetoric. Like Sally Heath they are just patriots to the neighbors. No one is going to tell if they know who to go to for arson or knock someone off.
That is some crazy stuff. Send an email to the FBI and Homeland Security. These folks need to be on the radar.
DeleteSee, the problem is that they don't _have_ a "front." This is who they are. They don't pretend otherwise. The problem is that it gets minimized as nothing. The militia folks are proud of being considered radical and they like being feared.
DeleteThey believe that they are at risk of eminent arrest, that there are secret camps to hold them, with the primary facility in Alaska.
"There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States...
The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people."
More -
http://www.annarbor.com/vielmetti/michigan-militia-then-and-now/
http://tiny.cc/w95efw
They ARE on the radar.
Excerpted from Wikipedia:
Michigan Militia = the Waco, Texas standoff at the Branch Davidian church and Ruby Ridge event (the Weaver family).
Michigan Militia believed these events to be illegal show of force by the Federal Government against citizens who had not committed any federal crimes, but were targeted for simply having views contrary to those in government at the time.
Norman Olson (Commander of the MMC until after the Oklahoma City bombing) and other militia leaders testified before the United States Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism on June 15, 1995.
He published a press release blaming the Japanese for the bombing, supposedly in retaliation for a clandestine US-sponsored gas attack in the Tokyo subway system.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/adl/beyond-the-bombing/btb-michigan.html
http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1062
Won't it be totally cool if Frank Bailey and Joe Miller get called to witness that this "strategy" meeting did happen and "for what purpose"? Ha, that'll have scarah shiitin bricks. She thought she could keep her hands clean by sending Bailey.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if Bailey will take any more hits for Sarah. I rather doubt it.
DeleteComments are pouring in at HP and none of them are favorable to the Palins.
ReplyDeleteGeoffrey Dunn said:
ReplyDelete"Bailey makes no mention of this extraordinary meeting with Cox and Fulton in his not-so-tell-all book, Blind Allegiance. Nor does he address his, Miller's and Frye's efforts to oust Ruedrich at the convention. It's yet another Bailey cover-up."
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It's hard to believe that the proprietor of the Mudflats blog teamed up with Frank Bailey to write a book and the other day there was a posting PRAISING Joe Miller on her blog...
Some one needs to get through to her that when you lie down with dogs ...you get fleas!”
it's hard for me to believe as well. I remember asking her on her forum, how she got involved with Bailey's book. No answer came.
DeleteI'm very disappointed in Devon...I use to read her blog daily and now I've lost respect for her and how she handled this Bailey thing and her book with the crook that he is. I guess money does stand in the way of truthiness.
DeleteBreitbart has a long note about Obama and Bill Ayers. You should write a post that compares their attack on his associates with the truth about Palin and her Cox associates. If I were you, I'd use the Breitbart article and compare the accusations and insults line by line showing how they apply even more to Palin/Cox.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/04/Exclusive-The-Vetting-Senator-Barack-Obama-Attend-Bill-Ayers-Barbecue-July-4-2005
You are kidding! Praising Joe Miller?
ReplyDeleteI wonder what the associates of Schaeffer Cox who are still on the loose think of the fact that Joe Miller and Frank Bailey were obviously fooled by Bill Fulton.
ReplyDeleteYEEEEHHHHH Comment on HP:
ReplyDeleteA thought I have carried since I knew Palin was going to run for VP with McCain.
Being such an extreme narcissist, there is no way she was going to come that close to the presidency and sit in second place for 4 years and/or wait for 4 years to then run for president.
NO WAY would McCain have lived through his term. Alaskans joked about McCain needing a food taster.
Then when her connection to Shaffer Cox came out, ----couple of years back ! to us this trial showing her connection is old news !----jokes stopped and we knew HOW Palin would have had her obstacle removed.
Make no mistake, Palin was NOT running for VP. She was running for president as much told the world that when she started "going rogue" and went into competition with McCain. She mistakenly thought she was getting so much publicity that she could surpass McCain.
There is so much more we in Alaska know about her and when the media finally start s really investigating ALL her many grifter scams, people will be amazed at what she has gotten away with.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/pallin-around-with-terror_b_1564430.html?ref=politics#comments
I don't know whose kid is in the video but he seems agitated and disturbed and just odd which is understandable considering the conversations he's surrounded by. No innocence for that poor little guy.
ReplyDeleteVile, disgusting, and oh so fitting! I'm grateful their plot never got to fruition. Thank You, Gryphen, for keeping us all informed. I'll be on this all day tomorrow, updating my previous letters. Haven't gotten a response yet, but SOMEONE in the media HAS to expose these criminals.
ReplyDeleteTalking Points Memo has picked it up:
ReplyDeletehttp://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/militia-leader-schaeffer-cox-testifies-in-his-own