Monday, August 27, 2012

Mitt Romney quotes "Popeye the Sailor Man," and a deeper examination of Bain documents obtained by Gawker reveals probable tax fraud.

"Mo money, mo money, mo non-taxable money for me!"
Courtesy of Politico:  

Mitt Romney conceded President Barack Obama has succeeded in making him a less likable person, but he offered a defiant retort to those hoping he will open up this week: “I am who I am.” 

Romney quoted that Popeye line three times in a 30-minute interview with POLITICO about his leadership style and philosophy, swatting away advice from Republicans to focus on connecting with voters in a more emotional, human way at this convention. Instead, he vowed to keep his emphasis — in the campaign and any administration to follow — on a relentlessly goal-driven, business-minded approach that has shaped his life so far. 

“I know there are some people who do a very good job acting and pretend they’re something they’re not,” Romney said. “You get what you see. I am who I am.” 

Seriously?  So Romney's big excuse for being robotic and unlikeable is that OTHER people also have personal flaws but are just better at faking that they are more personable?

So don't believe who Mitt Romney appears to be, just trust that he is who he, and of course his wife Ann, say that he is. Faith over observable facts, now where have I heard that argument made before?

So just "who am" Mitt Romney?

Well according to information revealed in those Bain documents he is a man who has done everything in his power to defraud the government by not paying his fair share of taxes.

This from Veracity Stew:

Management fees for running a private equity firm are classified as earned income, and are taxable at a rate of 35%. However, if that money is then shifted offshore through the Bain maze, it can be disguised as “carried interest” and the earner pays a much lower 15% Capital Gains tax rate. Does the reader now see why Mitt Romney’s Budget Plan proposes the elimination of taxes on Dividends and Capital Gains? As Victor Fleischer – Professor of Law, University of Colorado explains: 

"Because the management fees for a large private equity fund can be ten or twenty million per year, the tax dodge can literally save millions in taxes every year. The problem is that it is not legal."

But that is not all. Not by a long shot.



Equally disturbing is the use of offshore accounts to avoid taxation on US dividend-paying stock. This tactic is called a “total return equity swap,” because it involves swapping real stock equity for derivative paper investments that provide all the same dividends as the stock itself. The stock derivatives, however, are totally tax free. In this scheme, dividends taxable at 15% are shunted to an offshore account and redefined in such a way that no taxes are owed. Daniel Shaviro explains how this process works: 

"This use of total return equity swaps, such as to avoid the U.S. dividend withholding tax, was very widespread for more than a decade, and may not be dead yet, although the IRS issued a shot-across-the-bow Notice concerning the practice in 2010. But taxpayers who engaged in it to avoid the dividend withholding tax were coming perilously close to committing tax fraud, in cases where the economic equivalence to direct ownership was too great." (For example, in a lot of these deals even the exact timing of dividend payments had to be replicated in the swap.) "Given that considerations of economic substance are relevant to ownership determinations for U.S. federal income tax purposes" (i.e., “tax ownership”), "the only leg that taxpayers had to stand on in some of these cases was common practice and the apparent lack of IRS enforcement" (not a very strong leg if the correct application of the law was clear). 

In other words, those who continued to employ the use of total equity return swaps after the IRS made its public announcement in 2010 could still be charged with fraud, since the intent of the law was then made patently clear. Perpetrators cannot now claim that they “paid all the legally required taxes” simply because the IRS failed to enforce. The tact itself was deceptive, and employed with the intent to pay zero taxes on otherwise taxable income. Gawker documents reveal that four of the equity and hedge funds Mitt Romney invests in engage in equity swaps. Further, Viking Global Equities LP and Taconic Capital Partners 1.5 LP, two hedge funds that the Romneys are invested in via a Goldman Sachs so-called “fund of funds,” also reported equity swaps in statements Gawker obtained. 

Did you get all of that?

This information, by the way, gives credence to another charge against Romney. This one by fellow Mormon Harry Reid:

Considering the evidence in the Gawker documents that Romney is heavily invested in “total return equity swaps”, and that through this practice US dividend-paying income receives a 0% tax rate, these findings give credence to Harry Reid’s claim that a Bain investor tipped him off that Romney paid zero taxes in ten years. We also know from tax experts that such a practice is potentially fraudulent.

Now here is where I would like to address Mitt the Twit's argument against focusing on his taxes.

Romney has saidThe fascination with taxes I’ve paid I find to be very small-minded compared to the broad issues that we face. 

That is absolute bullshit.  Mitt Romney is running for the highest political office in the land.

He does not simply have to convince voters that he can do the job (Which in my opinion he has not even come close to doing.), he has to convince voters that they can TRUST him in that job.

We have had both incompetent (George W. Bush) and criminal (George W. Bush) Presidents in the White House, and the only way we have of predicting how well they will do perform in that job, and how much we can trust that they will do it honestly, is to examine how they have conducted themselves in the world BEFORE they started to groom themselves for this position.

Now Mitt Romney seems to have been grooming himself for this position, for the majority of his life, but what we DO know about him is that he ran a business that made money by bankrupting companies his corporation took over, that he invested with companies that specialized in sending American jobs overseas, that he has been caught lying about his tax returns and residency before, and that, according to these documents obtained by Gawker, he may have defrauded the government out of millions of dollars of tax money.

And THIS is the guy that wants to be our President.

Yeah, fuck that!

55 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:16 AM

    Mitt the Shit...is who he is.

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  2. Anonymous6:17 AM

    I sure hope this comes up in the debates, or that he is under IRS criminal investigation long before that. And then what, GOP? You really want to run Ryan as your candidate? Really?
    This man is scum. Taking from Americans, their jobs, their homes, their self-respect, and then ripping off the taxpayers of America, those of us that actaully WORK for our money and are proud to pay for the services we use or that others need, while the Romneys of the US do everything in their power to NOT pay one dime intaxes. Disgusting, immoral, screw you! The reason we don't like you, Mitt, is because you are a cheater and a liar.

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    1. Anonymous8:09 AM

      It's amazing how gullible people revere someone like tax cheatin' Romney and vilify teachers, firefighters and police officers as making too much on the taxpayer dime -- even though teachers, firefighters and police officers pay taxes too.

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    2. Anonymous4:22 PM

      8:09 -
      As a support staff member in a school (who doesn't even make close to what a teacher does), my salary has finally reached $40,000 after almost 15 year on the job (with a Master's degree!). I've already spent almost $100 on school supplies for my students and my year hasn't even started yet. Yet, somehow, I am a greedy, lazy, worthless, union-sympathizing waste of taxpayer money.

      Mitt Romney, however, after intentionally destroying companies, eliminating thousands of US jobs, outsourcing work to factories in Asia where the employees are treated as little more than slaves, and hiding millions of dollars from the IRS, is hailed as a hero.

      I just don't get it.

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  3. Anonymous6:24 AM

    I see Mitt Romney as Rich Uncle Pennybags (Mr. Monopoly) than Popeye. Popeye served in the military and the Foreign Legion, unlike Mitt, who went on holiday in Europe.

    Still waiting on your tax returns, Mr. Romney.

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  4. Anonymous6:35 AM

    I still like the photo of Mitt and Ann in front of the hotel washing machine... are they laundering their money?

    Mitt is a TAX CHEAT!

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  5. Sharon6:41 AM

    And so it goes....the other matter is the active vs non active definition by the IRS. The IRS says income from inactive worker is 35%, while active worker is 15% (Bain income, not wages), and his excessive expenses combined with his admitted tax rate of 13% could only mean one thing.... active. Well, good ole Mitt swears he was retired in 1999, which means, well you can see what it means.
    I don't even think the word "liar" is good enough anymore, we need a new one. Maybe he can room with Bernie.

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  6. Anonymous6:42 AM

    Funny thought as I have my coffee!! My coffee tastes so much better now!!

    GOP have supposedly hired the band 'Journey' for their convention. They've also got 'Kid Rock'(GAG). Will be surprised if they don't drag out Hank Williams Jr. too with Ted Nugent!!

    Will we see Housewives of DC and White House crasher Michaele Salahi 'crashing' the party? She did 'run off' with Neal Schon, the lead guitarist a year ago. Travelled on tour with the him and the band.

    Keep your eyes open as you know the media/press/blogs won't be able to resist!!!!! ROFL

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    1. Anonymous8:18 AM

      I recently quoted a price on a project that I really didn't want to take on because of the client, who is so unlikable. In doing so, I tried to reasonably price myself out of the job without burning any bridges within this particular asshole's circle of influence.

      I'll be damned if he didn't accept my proposal. Of course, I didn't discuss the bid with any of the other likely bidders who received an RFP. But I'll know next time this dickhead sends out an RFP to go way off the chart if I really don't want the job. Obviously I'm not the only consultant that hates this SOB, but it's apparent that the other bidders priced a much bigger premium. I'll know better next time.

      For the same reasons, I'll bet Elton John wished he had told his agent that he wouldn't accept less than $2 Million to entertain at Rush Limbaugh's wedding reception. EJ has always been one of my faves since the 70's, and I don't think he performed out of the goodness of his heart for an old friend, Rushbo.

      Likewise, I hope Journey is charging more than their standard rate for the grief factor, although they shouldn't have to apologize for playing the gig. Either way, it's a job for them and they are professionals and won't veer into the politics. If it was a paid endorsement of Mitt Romney, I'd feel a lot differently, but it's not. It's work.

      I am also not resentful of Lisa Ann for appearing in Tampa, as long as she makes those assholes pay a premium to get within 10 feet of her fine booty.

      But then again, the GOP is notorious for going nuts and spending like a bunch of drunken sailors any time they have meetings or conventions. It's all of that sexual repression from lying and pretending they have to do close to home where mama is, not that she really gives a shit. It just gives her a chance to have the pool boy come over for a long session or two of not cleaning the pool.

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  7. Anonymous6:43 AM

    Romney should be asked whether he paid at least 13% in Federal Income Tax during the years he claimsto have paid at least 13% in taxes. next, he should be asked whether in either 2008 or 2009, he failed to include interest from his UBS Swiss bank acount(s), and if so, did he accept amnesty from criminal prosecution for tax evasion.

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    1. Have you noticed that rMoney and his sister wife never use the words "federal" or "income" when talking about their taxes? Not an accident. They've been heavily briefed by their $$$$$$$$$$$ lawyers.

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  8. Leland7:02 AM

    Sadly, he probably won't be investigated or even asked by the IRS. Not because it isn't true, either.

    He will not be investigated until it is determined that the documents being displayed by Gawker were legally obtained, i.e., by someone IN Bain and in a position of some sort of authority or that can easily be covered under the Whistle Blower Law.

    Further, he and the GOP will just do what Sarah did when she was being investigated by the Alaska Legislature. Claim political dirty tricks and that the only reason he is being questioned or investigated is the election!

    So I think what we are seeing is either a deliberate decision NOT to look into it or a time consuming investigation to have ALL the info needed to prove it in hand before they actually go to him in any form.

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    1. Anonymous7:30 AM

      I'll be interested to know whether CREW picks up the issue

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    2. Leland7:57 AM

      Now THAT I would love to see!

      Tell him to argue with THEM!

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    3. hedgewytch9:48 AM

      I believe Bain has already admitted that the documents are theirs and they are accurate. Now on the "obtaining legally" part. IF they weren't, at least the government now has reasonable cause to investigate on their own.

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    4. Leland10:32 AM

      But WILL they?

      And what happens if Rmoney wins the election and then is found to be guilty of these charges? Do you REALLY believe the Repubes in Congress are going to impeach the pig?

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  9. Anonymous7:07 AM

    I'll tell you something - I'm sick and tired ALREADY of Cable TV running nothing but Romney 'personal' stuff!!! This is getting old fast! They are trying to make him look approachable and he's anything but. Sincerely hope the American public doesn't fall for it.

    The guy cannot be trusted..wants to increase the military by 100,000, put troops in Syria, increase the military budget (where President Obama is trying to decrease it), stop the medical act that President Obama has in place (and it's working!!), and stop abortions nationally.

    These Republicans scare the hell out of me! Donate to the Obama Campaign and get out and vote in November or prevote - absentee.

    OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

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  10. Anonymous7:15 AM

    Just wait till his church sees the money he's been hiding. That temple card is gonna get pulled so fast it will make his head spin off his shoulders. No planet Rmoney for you, shit head.

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    1. Ann will tell the Mormon church that "we've given YOU PEOPLE all the money that you need."

      No planet for Mitt? Then Mitt can share the moon colony with Newt, and they can be big boys and work it out among the two of them who gets the dark side.

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  11. Anonymous7:22 AM

    Yet I'm afraid, really afraid, he is going to win. Because the majority of people with power and money are supporting him.

    Does anyone know about 2016, the movie against Obama in all theatres? Who funded it?

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    1. Anonymous7:31 AM

      You're feeding right into their hands when you say your afraid. Sadly, that's when far too many Dems do.

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    2. Anonymous7:47 AM

      Just read this tweet - Hilarious!!!!!

      Mrs. Kelly Jacobs ‏@OBAMA4ME2
      @TheDailyShow Just got my Poster 4 Parade at DNC Convention: I don't watch Fox News, when I do it's on The Daily Show.
      http://pic.twitter.com/TdQ6XgQG



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    3. Anonymous7:53 AM

      While the rain is streaming down outside causing headaches for many like me - I've not had enough coffee yet!

      Corrections to my 7:31
      your s/b you're
      when s/b what

      We can't show fear. They feed off it.

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    4. Anonymous8:02 AM

      7:31, I have very good reason to be afraid. I'm disabled. So don't pass judgement on me. I vote. I work on the campaign despite the fact that I can hardly stand. Your comment is cold hearted but perhaps you don't realize. I'm not buying into anything. They could win. Don't you realize that??? In the UK, these austerity assholes just cut the disabled people's checks by 30%!!!! If you think it can't happen here, you are too idealistic. Romney and Ryan have been very clear about their plans and they can't disappoint their donors. And the polls are very close...

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    5. Dear 7:22:

      Cowardly fear mongering is not "helpful." Or effective. Or realistic.
      It doesn't matter, in the last analysis, whom the majority of people with power and money support. What matters is whom WE vote for.

      We are donating and getting out the vote. Not wallowing in self-indulgent parades of horribles.

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    6. lwtjb8:54 AM

      Me too.

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    7. Anonymous9:00 AM

      Anon 8:02
      I'm not cold hearted at all but don't give a crap if that's what you think. But know, you've just done the same thing you told me not to do. When you post comments on a blog, be prepaared to get responses, whether you like them or not.

      I speak truth and know -- yes any election can be won by either party. Stupid I'm not - asking me if I realize that.

      I do know and it's been a proven fact that Dems too easily break message and show fear. They don't always show the organization of standing together - no matter what. It's unfortunate, but that is one thing the GOP is well organized for to the point that we talk about them getting their 'daily talking points'.

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  12. Anonymous7:26 AM

    The more I hear about Romney, the more I want him to fail in his Holy Quest to lead America - and that he goes out in shame for the lies he's told and the failure to use his money wisely to advance the nation, not to see how little he can contribute to the common good. SS bracelets and a nice prison suit would work. I'm sure he'll still look handsome (NOT) in this garb.

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  13. hedgewytch7:46 AM

    Mitt is having a really bad Monday. First a hurricane wrecking all your propaganda plans for the convention, now this darn tax return stuff refuses to blow over, but instead is becoming quite the storm itself.

    Should be a good week to watch the fancy footwork the Republicans will be doing to turn the conversation.

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  14. Get off your white horse, Gryphen! Mittens has a prophecy to fufill and it's reckless libruls like you and your little librul bolshevik blog buddies who are messing it all up!! Cut it out!!

    Mittens answers to a higher calling and it even says in the bible:

    "Payest not thy tax collector more than 10 dracmas in gold (ed: about a buck three eighty five in 2012 US dollars) plus two bags of geschmeckels (ed: basically worthless broken pottery shards) lest thou leave insufficient money for many fine homes and an ass elevator."
    Evasians 10:40EZ

    Just remember, there are VERY powerful people in this country who want Mittens to be our elected do-nothing figurehead leader and if you screw that up and re-relect this Obama fellow, those powerful people might just have to APPOINT Mittens president of Amercia! Is THAT what you want??? I'm pretty sure you don't want THAT on your conscience, buddy boy!!

    And that is why I have officially endorsed Williard Milliard Mittens "Mittens" Rmoney for president in 2012.

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    1. fromthediagonal9:36 AM

      Beldar, some of these thoughts can only arise during a long sleepless night!

      Lately I am wondering: "Do you ever sleep"?
      I worry about you, because insomnia can lead to paranoia, which is why forced sleep deprivation has been deemed torture under the Geneva Convention.

      Mind you, the Geneva Convention does not bear any comparison to the Tampa convention, but like many progressives I am sharing insomniac torture when it comes to contemplating the regressives winning this election).

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    2. Anonymous3:58 PM

      Best sleep aid is a good round of GOTV'ing and Obama Biden 2012 calling. Get out there and do it!!

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    3. fromthediagonal4:30 PM

      I do, I do, but still I worry...
      (Guess that comes with old age?)

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    4. Diagonal - I can happily relieve you of at least one worry: I sleep like a baby - and not the forever colicky, crying, spitting-up and never sleeping kind of baby. Whatever I write comes strictly from fevered imagination and abject fear that the extreme douchebags - or as the French say "le sacks douche" - in this country are taking over.

      Since Gryphen has managed to attract this amazing group of knowledgeable, diverse, passionate, motivated and articulate commentarians it casts a very harsh light on the few lingering sad-sack trolls who indeed say the stupidest things. I humbly attempt to match & mock their foolishness while adding a soupçon - or as the French say "a soupçon" - of subversive humor and a few made-up words. It truly doesnt require sleepless nights but thanks for caring!

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  15. Anonymous8:05 AM

    Tax fairness IS or at least SHOULD BE one of the broad issues of this campaign.

    Exhibit A: Mitt Romney.

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  16. He'll probably never get prosecuted for tax fraud. Guys like him rarely do. All I hope is that the information coming out reveals what he really is to the American people. It's becoming extremely clear why he's been so secretive about his finances all this time.

    Oh, and he's an entitled little shit.

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  17. Anonymous8:28 AM

    O/T
    The weather forecast for Sarah's appearance in Arizona this afternoon: 108 degrees with 24% humidity. Very uncomfortable. Can't say I'm displeased. Karma.

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    1. Anonymous1:14 PM

      Sarah has EARNED more humidity than 24%. I'll let them know at the PeePond to get started on a petition right away!

      More humidity for Sarah! More humidity for Sarah!

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  18. Anonymous9:09 AM

    Anonymous @ 8:09 AM - You got it right! We are so screwed up in America - paying faux sports players millions, reducing the educational industry's salaries, cutting their job numbers, adding to the wealth of the rich and then wondering why things are in such disrepair, including our future.

    Police and firefighters keep us safe as possible with all the gun nuts and crazies out there but their numbers and salaries are under attack.

    How can anyone with some gray matter in their skull not see this and make haste to get to the polls and vote to help our country win its freedom from these know-nothing idiots? A puzzle for sure!

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  19. Anonymous9:15 AM

    Chris Matthews went after Priebus & the GOP on Morning Joe. Man - Chris was on his game early in the morning!!

    Go Chris!!!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#48799877

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    1. Super Fan In Atlanta10:17 AM

      OMG! Matthews handed Priebus his ass back to him neatly on a "awkward" silver platter!

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    2. Anita Winecooler8:30 PM

      Chris at his best. I love how Joe Scarborough, especially, sat with his eyes down and his piehole shut and let a pro expose the weasel.

      Thanks for the link, I would have missed it.

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  20. Anonymous9:44 AM

    How come nobody tweets about sarah palin anymore?

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    1. Anonymous10:28 AM

      Who?

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    2. Anonymous1:16 PM

      Wasn't she one of those terrorists put in jail a while back? Or one of the girls in the Manson family? Damifino.

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    3. Anita Winecooler8:33 PM

      I stepped on some of that at the dog park, but why would I bother tweeting it? Who cares?

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  21. Poor choice by Rmoney.

    I believe the actual quote is: I am WHAT I am and that's all that I am.

    What is Rmoney?

    Tax Cheat

    Liar

    Flip flopper

    Bully

    Animal Abuser.

    Feel free to jump right in at any time.

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    1. Anonymous10:30 AM

      Etch-A-Sketcher (Convention is Etch-A-Sketch Part 3 to remake Romney this year alone)

      Panderer
      Weak
      Doormat!

      Flop Flipper (He was for it before he was against it and he might be for it again but I don't know anymore he's flip-flopped and flop-flipped so often on everything. It then comes back to 'pandering')

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  22. Amy in Juneau10:11 AM

    Yep. Rmoney is a FRAUD

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    1. Anonymous12:07 PM

      There is more fraud in Romney than there is voter fraud.

      He can be documented -- voter fraud cannot

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  23. Popeye was just quoting God in The Ten Commandments "I am what I am" and I believe that Mittens prolly thinks of himself as a modern Moses of the rich-"let my money go"

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    1. Anonymous4:02 PM

      Uh, no. That isn't what Yahweh said. It is I am that I am.

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  24. Anonymous1:50 PM

    Oh, that's what they're going to do to chip away at Obama's likability, portray him as a phony, eh?

    Hmm...

    Me thinks the guy who says whatever needs to be said to get to 50.1% is playing a dangerous game here.

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  25. Anonymous4:36 PM

    I find it highly amusing that Mittens' newest favorite quote is almost identical to "I Am What I Am", which is the title of a song from the musical "La Cage aux Folles". The show is about a gay couple, one of whom stars in a drag show in St Tropez, and what they go through when their son brings home his fiance's ultra-conservative parents to meet them.

    That particular song is sung by one of the two gay stars in the show and is about how he is proud of who he is.

    Sooo...is Mitt trying to tell us something??? ;)

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  26. Anita Winecooler8:49 PM

    I've come to the realization that people are asking the wrong question when they say "What's wrong with Mitt?". I just wonder what, if anything is "right" with him.

    Romney's digging his heels in, not defining himself and his plans for America, but relying, instead on the wisdom of a popeye quote.

    We can't be complacent, get out the vote!

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