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When asked “Who is more responsible for Osama bin Laden’s death, Barack Obama or Mitt Romney?”, 15% of Ohioan voters who identified themselves as “very” conservative gave credit not to the Commander in Chief and mission strategist, but to former Governor Mitt Romney … ummm … say what??! Also, 6% of “somewhat conservative” people named Mitt as their pick for the bin Laden operation mastermind.
Liberals fared better, but, surprisingly, 4% of “very liberal” Ohioans still give Romney (Yes, the man who last held state-level office FIVE YEARS AGO) the nod for killing bin Laden.
Perhaps more disturbingly, a whopping 1 in 3 Ohioans surveyed (31%) said they were not sure who was responsible for bin Laden’s death, with 51% of America’s far-right and 14% of America’s presumed far-left not knowing the answer. This is America’s (mis)-information system at work!
And THIS is the result of allowing Fox News to present themselves as a "news" organization to the people of America. The people are almost so stupid that they no longer know what day of the week it is anymore.
Okay that made my head hurt.
P.S. You can read the mind numbing information for yourself here at this PPP poll.
Holly Cow, dumbing down of the masses at it's best.
ReplyDeleteThe collective IQ of Fox News and their viewers and followers, are on a par with Ms. Stink Ass from Wasilla. The GOP is counting on this ignorance to carry the day for them in 2012. Lets combat this stupidity with facts, logic, and grass roots organization. DON'T WHINE VOTE. Obama/Biden 2012 !
ReplyDeleteOH, boy. This IS alarming. As I ponder it all I can't help but wonder if the bigger problem is that they have no idea who Osama Bin Laden was!!!! Remember, many think that name belongs to our President. So, if they don't know who Bin Laden was then how could they know who to blame or credit for his death? Or, even more disturbing, maybe they gave it to Romney because they believe he will eventually kill Obama? Anyway you look at it this "exceptional" country (RIGHT!), really is full of ignorant people.
ReplyDeleteWhat a juxtaposition this morning! Spiral galaxies and atrophied brains.
ReplyDeleteI saw this on Rachel Maddow last night. Jaw dropping. I don't even know what to say....Just. Wow.
ReplyDeleteWe have friends who have been brain washed by Fox. There is no talking to them. They cannot follow a reasonable argument based on facts. They claim that President Obama was born in Kenya to Kenyans, and of course, that makes him a Muslim. I asked about the attacks from the 2008 campaign when he was accused of sitting in Rev.Wright's church for 20 years listening to "anti-American hate speech." They don't answer. They just go on to the next talking point, "And, he can't talk without a teleprompter."
ReplyDeleteLuckily I live in a blue part of Ohio. But does anyone wonder why they want to destroy the public schools and disenfranchise voters here?
ReplyDeleteThis is not surprising. Sarah Palin thanked George W. Bush for killing him. Remember???
ReplyDeleteOh and also: When asked by McCain's people who attacked the U.S. on 9/11, she (who knows her American history) said Saddam Hussein. The ignorance of these rubes is startling.
DeleteTo me this is obvious: 15% of conservative Ohioans are racists and don't like black people. They will never give credit to Obama for anything. The only other explanation is that they are stupid idiots.
ReplyDeleteThey're both.
DeleteYep. Illiterate stupid idiots.
DeleteI think BRistol deserves credit for killing bin laden. And TRipp a little bit also too.
ReplyDeletePlease, if bin Laden had seen her show, he would have killed himself.
DeleteDave
Texas
Dave, you win LOL of the day for that comment.
DeleteOT but it relates. I just finished reading Dark Ages America, by Morris Berman. He has a chapter on American ignorance that will stun you. Still, this is incredible. I can’t believe the raving stupidity of these people! How could they possibly give credit to Mittens for the Bin Laden hit?? I tell you, we are living in distinctly scary times. I don’t recognize my country anymore. The American dream has been replaced with an American nightmare in a madhouse!
ReplyDeleteYou know WTF is a good explanation. I did a "whois" on this company and this website just went up this month. Note location...Florida and I just love their email addy.............................
ReplyDeleteRegistrant:
Domain Discreet Privacy Service
ATTN: publicpolicypolling.com
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Gles, Domain Privacy companies protect your website domain info from being released when doing a "whois". So the PPP does not com from Jackson,FL. it comes from Raleigh, N.C.
DeleteDon't forget to VOTE!
ReplyDeleteI think that there is a good chance that Bin Laden died a year or 2 after 9/11/2001, but the the Repugnants kept using him as a boogeyman a few days before every election by fabricating false video and audio recordings to keep fear levels alive and win votes for the republicans. Obama decided to stage a fake killing to put Bin Laden to rest, knowing that the Repugnants couldn't admit they were using a dead man to scare up votes.
ReplyDeleteIf you look at the images that surfaced after the killing, many of them were of a person that didn't look all that much like Bin Laden.
A brilliant move and it eliminated the possibility of General Betray Us (Petraus) taking credit for killing the Bin Laden bogeyman and then running for president.
You sound just as crazy as those 15% Ohioans.
DeleteBin Laden was killed last year, by Navy Seals at the command of President Obama.
Are you serious? This is as out there as the info in Gryphens post.
DeleteDon't be so quick to dismiss this theory. The several tapes allegedly of Bin Laden after 2001 were clearly faked. He never took credit for the events of Sept. 11, 2001. There were several reports that he died in Tora Bora in December 2001. Several State Dept. officials at the time admitted that they believed he had died. He had serious kidney problems, requiring dialysis. He was never wanted by the FBI for the events of Sept. 11th. Please see the following:
Deletehttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
http://infowars.net/articles/february2007/190207Osama_tape.htm
http://www.infowars.com/articles/terror/bin_laden_proof_tape_is_5_yr_old_footage.htm
http://www.corbettreport.com/osama-bin-laden-pronounced-dead-for-the-ninth-time/
You're quoting fox news? Where do you think the idiots in the poll above get their news?
DeleteThe report that Fox News picked up came from a Pakistani newspaper reporting on OBL's funeral. If you don't do the research, and look at all the evidence, you are as bad as the Fox News viewers. Several experts have reviewed the subsequent videos and have concluded that they were not of the man we knew as OBL, and that the translations were inaccurate.
DeleteAlso, check out the fact that OBL was a CIA asset, that he worked with the US against the USSR in Afghanistan in the 90's, and that he was visited by CIA officials in a Dubai hospital in July of 2001.
I am an Obama supporter, and will vote for him, but I don't fall for every lie that is thrown our way by the "authorities."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/01/afghanistan.terrorism
http://rense.com/general16/bin.htm
http://www.wanttoknow.info/011101londontimes
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/binladen_met_cia.html
By allegedly burying Bin Laden immediately at sea and never showing the pictures the bogeyman was put to rest.
Deletehttp://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/galleryoffakebinladens.php
George W. Bush's oil company was funded by Bin Laden's brother, and H.W. Bush was meeting with a Bin Laden during the events of 9-11.
DeleteWhat better way to get people to stop looking for you than faking your death... just sayin' Niko. Ever see the movie Double Jeopardy?
DeleteAlso, too, when Obama talks about this topic, he says, "Bin Lsaden is dead; General Motors is alive." A true statement. He doesn't say, "I killed Bin Laden."
DeleteHey Anonymous @ 9:21:
DeleteHe didn't need to fake his death because everyone knew where he was, and nobody was "looking" for him. He was visited by the CIA station head while in hospital in Dubai, and could have been detained at any time. He was a very sick man, and could not have survived in any case with his medical problems. He took no part in the events of Sept. 11th, and said so right after the events. Don't you think if he was responsible, he would have declared it?
"In 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf said bin Laden had kidney disease, and that he had required a dialysis machine when he lived in Afghanistan. That same year, the FBI's top counterterrorism official, Dale Watson, said, 'I personally think he is probably not with us anymore.'
Osama Bin Laden may be in less danger from smart bombs than from kidney stones, according to a report in the French daily Le Figaro. In a report picked up throughout Europe the Paris paper and Radio France International claimed the Saudi terrorist checked himself into Dubai's American Hospital in July, where he spent 10 days undergoing urgent treatment to his ailing renal system. 'Intelligence sources believe that bin Laden bought a dialysis machine earlier this year which he had shipped to Kandahar,' says the Times about the Le Figaro report. 'His problem now will be operating such equipment and the risk of infection if, as seems likely, he is hiding out in Afghan mountains.'"
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,182523,00.html#ixzz26BUfulgI
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1819280,00.html#ixzz26BUQiqOu
I saw it last night on Maddow as well. My interpretation was that those 15% hate Obama so much, they're willing to lie to pollsters. And the sad part is, they vote (and probably breed).
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking the same thing. They know the truth but are willing to lie about it.
DeleteI agree. I can see them chuckling as they answer the poll, thinking themselves to be very clever.
DeleteI would think George W. Bush would be given more credit than Mitt, who holds 'no title.' God forbid the credit goes where it belongs, President Barack Obama.
ReplyDeleteKind of on topic... great (but depressing) piece in the NYT -- New info regarding the Bush administration's non-action after being advised repeatedly about threats from Al Qaeda.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html
Better late than never but was an interesting article....... I remember Hillary saying "Bush knew"......well he should have.
DeleteAnd Dick Cheney has the utter gall to accuse President Obama of not reading security briefings? Every briefing that contained any info about any operations by Al Qaida was ignored, and the ones before the 8/6 memo are very telling.
DeleteIt's just horrible seeing his face.
ReplyDeleteWhat is even more crazy than those 15% idiot bigots, are the people who asked that STUPID question in the first place.
ReplyDeleteThat question is idiotic. Everybody knows Bin Laden was killed last years at the command of President Obama. Romney was not the president then, and he is not he president now.
So the question is, why would some jerk even ask that question?
You're blaming the questioner?? The results don't bother you at all? Who are you, a Bush?
DeleteI suspect PPP put the question out there entirely to point out the stupidity of some respondents. Very clever of them!
DeleteThey also keep re-electing Boehner. Speaks volumes.
ReplyDeleteGryphen, you needn't be surprised. There's a very simple explanation.
ReplyDeleteIt's a known fact - I just completed the seminal research work myself about 20 minutes ago - that ultra-conservatives - called 'cliffies' in the study - suffer debilitating dementia at a far, far higher rate than that suffered by what we refer to as 'normies' or normal people.
Further research is needed to establish a causative effect but it's clearly a tantalizing relationship that severe conservatism frequently comorbiditates with extreme cognitive impairment.
very truly yours,
Dr. Beldar J. Conehead, PhD, CPA, LLC, PDF, PFD, Certified HVAC technician
Excellent research Dr. Conehead!
Delete"Cliffies" as in "go jump off a..."?
DeleteBTW, do you do central air? I will pay you in mass quantities, Dr. Conehead.
Aye!
DeleteIf you can't trust a HVAC tech to tell the truth about science, who can you trust?
Delete:)
How Rare! A Doctor who makes sense AND does house calls. The limited liability Corporation was genius! "Those people" like to file malpractice suits. Bravo!
DeleteI think you're onto something big, Dr Conehead!!!
Ah, dear Dr. Beldar - thank you, was in really shitty mood before your post, thank you. And can you replace my heating system, it's on its last legs. thanks!
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Don't forget our Autumn Furnace Tune-Up Special: one free non-peer-reviewed research paper (your choice of barely comprehensible or thoroughly incomprehensible) with every pre-heating season service call.
DeleteThe first was a top 10, now with this epic followup it is in the top 3 best ever Beldar.
DeleteGee, wouldn't they just give the credit to Sarah Palin? It was her gutteral instincts after all that impressed A.B. Culvahouse in his vetting of her for the VP ticket.
ReplyDeleteGov. Palin's responses to my standard hypothetical questions—Was she prepared to use nuclear weapons to defend our country? Would she authorize a strike against Osama bin Laden if she knew that numerous civilians also would be killed?—portrayed impressive resolve and sensitivity.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304070304577395783718349916.html
Bin Laden died of laughter ..after watching Sarah speeches.
ReplyDeleteSarah killed Osama
"The direct warnings to Mr. Bush about the possibility of a Qaeda attack began in the spring of 2001. By May 1, the Central Intelligence Agency told the White House of a report that “a group presently in the United States” was planning a terrorist operation. Weeks later, on June 22, the daily brief reported that Qaeda strikes could be “imminent,” although intelligence suggested the time frame was flexible.
ReplyDeleteBut some in the administration considered the warning to be just bluster. An intelligence official and a member of the Bush administration both told me in interviews that the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat. Intelligence officials, these sources said, protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives’ suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day.
In response, the C.I.A. prepared an analysis that all but pleaded with the White House to accept that the danger from Bin Laden was real.
“The U.S. is not the target of a disinformation campaign by Usama Bin Laden,” the daily brief of June 29 read, using the government’s transliteration of Bin Laden’s first name. "
www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=1
What boggles my mind to this day is not so much that the likes of Fox and Sarah Palin do what they do. It's not even so much that people buy into what they say, but actually lap this shit up! It's amazing what lengths people will go to ignore the reality directly in front of them in favor of believing what they want to belief instead, even if it's in complete contrast to the truth staring them in the face.
ReplyDeleteIt's just like we have known all along. Some people will never give Obama credit for anything, and they will also blame him for everything bad that has happened since the beginning of time. He' a very convenient scapegoat.
ReplyDeleteI come here to get some Obama love, because a lot of posts on FB are so anti-Obama that is scares me.
The data suggests almost 30% of all white people are stone cold racists - about half of them are "out there", the other half are closet racists so these numbers don't surprise me in the least.
ReplyDeleteI'd give just about anything for you to be stone cold wrong... The population might be 30% stupid, I'll grant you and it's not unique to white people. But how could the last 50 years have evolved the way they did if white racists - 'stone cold' indicating deeply felt, hardened prejudice - comprised that high a percentage of the population? Can you identify the source of your data?
DeleteBeldar I think I love you. You used "comprise" correctly!
Delete"You used "comprise" correctly!"
DeleteThank you! I take great pridary in my eruditious English vocabulations. Irregardless, I definitively depreciate being appraised of any felonious usury that I may inadverbally incur in future commentiums.
I believe every word of it. It is easy to manipulate the Far Right. A jackass like Sarah does it all the time.
ReplyDeleteFor instance, four years ago I would tell hunters and marksmen the Democrats wanted to make them pay a $150.00 registration fee for every firearm they owned. Every year. If you own two rifles and three shotguns like me, then you would have to pay Uncle Sam $750.00 a year. So you better get your ass to the voting booth or bullets will be next.
They gobbled this shit up to the point of becoming enraged.
I wasn´t the only one,
Now I scare the dumb fucks away from the voting booth. (Don´t ask how - just know it works as effectively)
Let's take a page from, oh, that bastion of sophistication--the last "Honey Boo Boo" episode--where the trending phrase was, "Shhh! It's A Wig!"
ReplyDeleteI'll offer that any anti-Obama reasoning coming from the pie holes of these so-called carbon-based uber-conservative life forms is based on one easy premise:
"Shhh! He's BLACK!"
This is classic deliberate attempt to dumb down America. The Plutocrats like the repubs and Mitt hope to keep them confused and doubting their own existence. Besides rejecting science, these wandering sheep are clutching their guns and staring out into the night waiting for the black helicopters. The perfect workforce for surrendering any hope for equal opportunity.
ReplyDeleteSo, I wonder if Rmoney baptized Osama Bin Laden into the Mormon church after he killed him?
ReplyDeleteIt's pretty much a guarantee that some crazy-assed mormon did.
DeleteThe 15% is the people who will refuse to give our Pres. credit for ANYthing, and possibly also those that refuse to say the name OBAMA lest they should be struck dead. They hate him that much.
ReplyDeleteI think they enjoy saying the name 'Obama' as a curse word. Anything attached to the name is supposed to be reviled, i.e. 'Obamacare'.
DeleteIt's hard to believe that this many people can be so blinded by hatred that they ignore facts and any kind of common sense.
ReplyDeleteBefore Obama became President, I thought that racism was in the rear view mirror. Boy, was I wrong.
In a way, I'm glad that racism has bubbled to the surface surrounding Obama's presidency. Maybe now people will believe reports of racial discrimination at school, at work, or at the hands of police officers. Racism does exist, unfortunately.
DeleteSkankah from Wasilla had sex with Bin Laden, and gave him a terminal case of herpes. That is my theory, and I'm sticking with it.
ReplyDeleteWonder what the poll results would have been if Donald Duck was one of the choices.
ReplyDelete@Nikogriego,
ReplyDeleteWhat about the book that is written by a NavySEAL that was there during the Obama raid? Is he really telling the truth or is there a conspiracy theory about that as well.
could easily be a republican ploy to swift boat obama. Expect October surprises this year on the scale of Iran Contra - neocons have their own military - blackwater XE.
DeleteArdiva, what do you mean by "conspiracy theory?" Aren't all renditions of the events of Sept. 11th necessarily conspiracy theories, because they involve secret criminal acts by more than one person? Isn't the government's Official Story (which has changed several times) a conspiracy theory? And a really weak one at that?
Deleteconspiracy |kənˈspirəsē| noun ( pl. -cies)
"a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful : a conspiracy to destroy the government. See note at plot .
• the action of plotting or conspiring : they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice."
And how did OBL, from a cave deep in the mountains of Afghanistan, thwart the greatest air defense system on the planet, using men armed only with boxcutters? And these men, who could barely fly Cessnas, managed to take control of four sophisticated jet aircraft in flight, keep them aloft for hours, and then manage to crash three of them into targets far away from where they started, without meeting any resistance? And how did WTC7, a 47 story skyscraper, not hit by any aircraft, manage to fall in on itself in free-fall speed, in a manner of several seconds, collapsing into its own footprint?
You tell me which conspiracy theory is hard to believe.
If Mitt killed Bin Laden, he died of boredom.
ReplyDeleteVote, Vote, Vote!