Wednesday, October 10, 2012

For the first time in American history Protestants are no longer in the majority. Also worth noting that secular numbers are growing rapidly ultimately to the benefits of Democrats.

Courtesy of Yahoo News:  

The percentage of Protestant adults in the U.S. has reached a low of 48 percent, the first time that Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life has reported with certainty that the number has fallen below 50 percent. The drop has long been anticipated and comes at a time when no Protestants are on the U.S. Supreme Court and the Republicans have their first presidential ticket with no Protestant nominees. 

Among the reasons for the change are the growth in nondenominational Christians who can no longer be categorized as Protestant, and a spike in the number of American adults who say they have no religion. The Pew study, released Tuesday, found that about 20 percent of Americans say they have no religious affiliation, an increase from 15 percent in the last five years. 

Scholars have long debated whether people who say they no longer belong to a religious group should be considered secular. While the category as defined by Pew researchers includes atheists, it also encompasses majorities of people who say they believe in God, and a notable minority who pray daily or consider themselves "spiritual" but not "religious." Still, Pew found overall that most of the unaffiliated aren't actively seeking another religious home, indicating that their ties with organized religion are permanently broken. 

Growth among those with no religion has been a major preoccupation of American faith leaders who worry that the United States, a highly religious country, would go the way of Western Europe, where church attendance has plummeted. Pope Benedict XVI has partly dedicated his pontificate to combating secularism in the West. This week in Rome, he is convening a three-week synod, or assembly, of bishops from around the world aimed at bringing back Roman Catholics who have left the church. 

The trend also has political implications. American voters who describe themselves as having no religion vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. Pew found Americans with no religion support abortion rights and gay marriage at a much higher-rate than the U.S. public at large. These "nones" are an increasing segment of voters who are registered as Democrats or lean toward the party, growing from 17 percent to 24 percent over the last five years. The religiously unaffiliated are becoming as important a constituency to Democrats as evangelicals are to Republicans, Pew said.

Obviously as you can imagine I personally find this to be a good thing. And if the trend continues we will see a rather dramatic shift in our political spectrum and the long overdue end to the current attacks on education and science.

Just imagine a country whee people do not claim to have been chosen by God to run for office and where policy decision are based on evidence and intelligence instead of ignorance and superstition.

In a country like that there would be NO war on women, Mitt Romney would have no chance of being elected President, and our scientific research would be second to none.

Simply cannot happen fast enough in my opinion.

19 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:46 AM

    Conspiracy World

    ...To live and seethe in that world of conspiracy theories means rejecting any form of objective reality. When unemployment numbers make the administration look good, they are obviously “cooked.” When poll numbers put Mr. Obama ahead, they are skewed. Birth certificates are forgeries. Safety-net programs are giveaways to supporters. Health insurance reform is socialism. And campaign donation disclosure is antibusiness.

    It’s an upside-down version of life, and it is not innocuous. When desperation leads political critics of the president to discredit important nonpolitical institutions — including the Census Bureau, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Federal Reserve and the Congressional Budget Office — the damage can be long-lasting. If voters come to mistrust the most basic functions of government, the resulting cynicism can destroy the basic compact of citizenship.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/opinion/conspiracy-world.html?hp&_r=0

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  2. Anonymous5:00 AM

    I was raised Catholic, no longer consider myself one. I struggled in the past with alcohol abuse and a large part of it was due to my overwheling shame (something the church promotes).

    I look forward to the day when there are far less churches and bars.

    btw....It now appears to me that organized religion is one big ponzi scheme.

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    1. Anonymous2:11 PM

      What on earth is wrong with bars? I can see that sadly you still retain some of that guilt there, though Catholics don't generally denegrate the drink! For me, more bars = more discussion and thinking = less religion. Most fun things = less religion. Which is fine with me!

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  3. Anonymous5:34 AM

    Actually, the non-denomination Christians are the worrying ones--those are the insane born-agains, many of the Protestant relgions are somewhat apathetic and neutral, not holy rollers, like Episcopals (at least the new more liberal branch of them).

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    1. I agree with you on this. The non-denominational Christians are usually the ones that take the Bible literally--very scary stuff.

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    2. Not What You Want to Hear8:57 AM

      Yep, no one should be happy there are fewer Protestants and more non-denominationals. I have a close family relative that turned into a rabid rightwinger within a year of joining a non-denominational church, and that's just one example. Most people I know that go to non-denominational churches are very rightwing.

      And they are definitely growing in number, especially the megachurch variety. I don't think people realize the role these churches are playing in fundamentally altering the altruistic message of Jesus into something almost unrecognizable at this point.

      What I find truly unsettling is WHY so many people are abandoning the Protestant image of Christ for one that is ominously authoritarian and vengeful, and thus, perfectly aligned with today's conservative movement.

      Anyone got any theories?

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  4. Anonymous5:57 AM

    I am 65 years old and I was raised Lutheran. After witnessing the pedophile activities of the Catholic priests, the attempts by the Vatican to get the American nuns back in line, the churches who are rejecting and condemning gays, the tea party evangelicals who were voted into congress even though they are among the most intellectually inferior people on earth, and the war against women, I am convinced that the only purpose of religion is to frighten and control people, not to help them. All the wars in the world including terrorism were caused by religious zealots who want power for their own gain.

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    1. On the other hand, religion keeps a lot of people from running amok. So it might be a wash.

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    2. Leland6:18 AM

      While I have to agree with what you have said - for the most part - I have to disagree with your last sentence.

      Had you said that the single most categorical cause of pain, grief, suffering and death were caused by religious people and organized, middle-eastern monotheistic religion, I would agree.

      But all the wars in the world? No.

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    3. Here is a video that you might appreciate.
      http://www.upworthy.com/a-bishop-describes-how-the-church-invented-hell-to-control-people?c=ufb1

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  5. Anonymous7:01 AM

    I fall in the category of NOT being a christian or 'anything' for that matter. Was rasied Catholic and the religion was forced down my throat as a child and teenager. Left it as soon as I moved out of the house and now I'm a senior and retired!

    Suspect the main reason faith has and will continue to drop in the US is the fact it is (religion) constantly on review - on TV, in our government (even though it isn't suppose to be!) - with people constantly declaring they are 'christian' or 'born again' when they act nothing like it! They lie, cheat, steal, kill, repeatedly marry and divorce, have affairs and on and on.

    Religion is man made! Watch the Mormons too - they (the men especially) are not what the seem. We have one constantly on display in America today and he too is a proven liar! Beware of voting for him folks! He'd take the 47% straight through hell!

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  6. Anonymous7:10 AM

    Democrats in general support higher learning, reasoning, the arts, and self-expression. The world is moving in that direction. The Republicans in general seem to feel threatened by the above and since they don't believe in evolution, not understanding what evolving really means, they remain "stuck" in their basic belief systems.

    I have studied and gone to many churches. I learned from my own critical thinking that Jesus did not attend a church but was a loner, with a message to mankind to "love one another". He taught that "God is Love" and no one is perfect. Do not judge or ye shall be judged. To put more effort in giving than receiving. From this, I would say that President Obama and Biden are more "Christian" than R/R.

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  7. Anonymous8:45 AM

    http://www.thechristianleft.org/#

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    1. Interesting--thanks for the link.

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  8. Anonymous8:59 AM

    I find this to be a good thing too, but I don’t think this article is quite accurate in its accounting.

    To split hairs about terminology, “Protestants” are so called because the origin of their religious sects is one of “protesting” the Catholic Church – specifically, the stranglehold the Catholic Church had on the teachings of Jesus for over a thousand years. Therefore, to say there are no Protestants on the ticket is wrong – neither Obama nor Romney are Catholic, therefore, they are Protestant. Even the so-called “non-denominational” churches are actually Protestant because they’re not Catholic (which WAS the definition of Christianity for 1500+ years) and they’ve usually evolved from one of the mainstream Protestant denominations. Protestantism is alive, well, and continually evolving into new forms. One of those forms is Evangelical, another is Dominionism. I fear many of these new evolutions much more than the traditional denominations. And their numbers (and their mega-churches) are growing.

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  9. Anonymous9:00 AM

    And for a little balance on the subject of spirituality versus atheism --

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/07/proof-of-heaven-a-doctor-s-experience-with-the-afterlife.html

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  10. Anita Winecooler6:04 PM

    As a former Roman Catholic, I loved this part:

    "Pope Benedict XVI has partly dedicated his pontificate to combating secularism in the West"

    Good Luck with that!

    I agree, the uber multiplex theater right wing born again non denominational small c christian movement business model has outfoxed the others.


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  11. Anonymous6:18 PM

    Someone wants to throw out history's most repeated stories, ridicule the artists and scholars alike who have worked with the symbols of religious history, and replace it with nothing but a series of experiments and a general skepticism toward transcendence. To me, this seems like the type of closed-minded, bully boy thuggery that I'd just as soon see selected right out of the gene pool.

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  12. Anonymous8:11 PM

    Gryphen, you might enjoy this little talk...I did.

    http://www.ted.com/talks/alain_de_botton_atheism_2_0.html

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