Monday, November 12, 2012

Political support for each candidate in 2012, as indicated by denomination. Some very good news here for Obama.


Courtesy of the Maddow Blog

There's a fair amount of interesting data here, though the results among Roman Catholic voters are arguably the most electorally significant. In every recent cycle, Catholics have been considered a key swing constituency, particularly throughout Midwest battleground states, and President Obama narrowly won their support, 50% to 48%. It suggests Republicans' efforts to focus on contraception and reproductive rights had limited success, and the Bishops' lobbying largely fell on deaf ears. 

Also note, while many on the right hoped 2012 would be the year that Jewish voters abandoned Democrats, that didn't come close to happening. Though Obama fared slightly worse among Jewish voters as compared to 2008, he still enjoyed overwhelming support. 

For the purposes of classification, "Other faiths" became a catch-all for a variety of minority religious traditions -- Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, and others -- which on their own represent a very small percentage of the voting population. Their support for the GOP remains dismal. 

And continue to keep an eye on the religiously unaffiliated -- one of the fastest growing segments of the faith population -- which includes atheists, agnostics, and theists who choose not to associate with any specific tradition. Their lopsided support for Obama reinforces yet another demographic problem for Republicans in the coming years.

I cannot tell you how happy I am to see these numbers. 

After all of the attempts to paint this President as the freaking Anti-Christ it is comforting to see that only a handful of the MOST ignorant Fundamentalist bought into that rhetoric.

I actually believe that if the Republican candidate had NOT been a fellow Mormon that Obama might have had much more support from that denomination/cult as well.

And would you take a look at that unaffiliated number. Now that puts a huge smile on my face. Especially since it represents one of the fastest growing demographics in the country.

And if that was NOT enough to make your day there is also this courtesy of the New York Times:

“Millions of American evangelicals are absolutely shocked by not just the presidential election, but by the entire avalanche of results that came in,” R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, in Louisville, Ky., said in an interview. 

“It’s not that our message — we think abortion is wrong, we think same-sex marriage is wrong — didn’t get out. It did get out. “It’s that the entire moral landscape has changed,” he said. “An increasingly secularized America understands our positions, and has rejected them.”  
 
That is literally music to my ears. I visualize a day when candidates will simply keep their religious beliefs to themselves, and avoid discussing their opinions on social issues altogether, for fear of alienating the huge agnostic/atheist voting block that will gain predominance in this country. I only hope I live long enough to see it.

19 comments:

  1. Leland2:18 AM

    Gryph, concerning your last paragraph.

    I look forward to the day when they HAVE to pay attention to the social issues that are important to us in the "unaffiliated" area because our numbers are so huge!

    Didn't you post something about atheists being one of the fastest growing groups in the world?

    It would be so awesome to live in a world which was completely secular! Sure, let people believe in their religions, but in a secular world their proselytizing would be ssssoooooo muted! Not to mention a complete turn-off for so many people.

    And making their hate-inspired religious beliefs political platforms? Anathema!

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    1. Anonymous5:50 AM

      I am a God loving, Jesus following, Liberal Democrat, and I believe to each is own.
      People who believe in God and follow Jesus are here to stay. So don't hold your breath waiting for the atheists to take over the world. It just ain't gonna happen.

      If you want to be an atheist, fine. I have no problem with others beliefs. (or non beliefs)
      BUT don't try to make us God loving, Jesus loving people out to be odd. You don't want people attacking your atheism, so I expect the same courtesy, don't attack my love of God and Jesus.

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    2. Anonymous6:38 AM

      I don't attack anyone's love of whatever being(s) they believe in. BUT don't try to legislate your morality onto OTHERS's lives. If you don't believe in gay marriage, don't get gay married. But DON'T try to make it so NO ONE can get married if they're gay. Same w/contraception, etc.

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  2. cuppajava3:10 AM

    It's very early in the day as I write this, and maybe my coffee hasn't totally kicked in yet, but I'm confused about this statement: "After all of the attempts to paint this President as the freaking Anti-Christ it is comforting to see that only a handful of the MOST ignorant Fundamentalist bought into that rhetoric."

    The chart shows me that nearly 80% of the evangelicals supported Mittens. I don't understand the "only a handful" thing there.

    Allow me to trudge on with one more inconsistency at this early hour: "I visualize a day when candidates will simply keep their religious beliefs to themselves, and avoid discussing their opinions on social issues altogether, for fear of alienating the huge agnostic/atheist voting block that will gain predominance in this country. I only hope I live long enough to see it."

    My response to that is Oh, hell no.... I hope they NEVER hide their religious opinions in order to gain enough of the votes needed to be elected, after which they will continue their theocratic march to take away our civil rights.

    What I yearn for is the day when one's religious views are not part of the political agenda needed to move this country forward. That ol' separation of church and state thing, ya know....

    I hope somebody explains all this to me; I'm going back for more coffee to see if I can find greater clarity in what I read.

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  3. An European Viewpoint3:13 AM

    It's quite possible. It happened in France over about 30 years. Of course, a Pope who was not courageous enough to be firm on his moral grounds, when faced with the Nazi takeover of Europe, did help.

    Just air the dirty deeds of Mormon's white horse Romney and of other religious billionaires, and prevent them from unsupervised access to your kids. Internet should do the rest.

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  4. An European Viewpoint3:15 AM

    Where are the Protestants on this graph ? Don't they form the biggest religious group ? I'm confused.

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    1. Anonymous5:42 AM

      I noticed the absence of protestants, too.

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    2. Anonymous6:58 AM

      Mainstream Protestants would be in the "other faiths" category and would comprise the vast majority of that group.

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    3. Sarah H8:52 AM

      That's not how I read this:
      "For the purposes of classification, "Other faiths" became a catch-all for a variety of minority religious traditions -- Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, and others -- which on their own represent a very small percentage of the voting population. Their support for the GOP remains dismal. "

      It seems like, at least as far as it's spelled out, that Protestants or other non-Evangelical Christians are not represented on this graph. Because surely they did not group all non-Catholic Christians into the Evangelical category. As a Methodist (NOT EVANGELICAL!!!), that would seriously piss me off.

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  5. Anonymous3:24 AM

    I would prefer to know their agenda. Silence can be dangerous.

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  6. Sally in MI3:37 AM

    That's funny. "An increasingly secularized America." That chart doesn't show that. It shows that America is not buying the BS of the evangelicals. They have dreams of taking over our schools and our government. It ain't working. I was reading about those evangelical 'clubs' that are popping up in schools. They think they are indoctrinating the little kiddies, who they then hope will skip home and bring mumsie and pops along to their church. I don't see that happening. Kids who go to these 'clubs' do it to be with their friends. Sure, they might remember a Bible verse or two, or learrn some songs, but the parents' beliefs are paramount with young kids. My folks did not attend church. My grandma took me and my sister. I have since joined another group; my sister is agnostic, and none of our other siblings believe much of anything.
    Three of us are Democrats; three are followers of Rush.
    I guess my point is that the evangelicals see anyone not on their train as 'secular.' That would be news to the Catholics and the Jews, huh, not to mention Lutherans, Brethren, and anyone else not on the far right side of that chart.

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    1. My daughter didn't want to participate in my old-style Methodist church, but got drawn into the hip, proselytizing, evangelical, Baptist high school crowd with its modern music, live band, extensive recreational activities, various weekend retreats, and the wildly popular, distant, week-long, annual retreats in Panama City Beach, Florida.

      I told her she was welcome to find her spiritual path, but to remember that I had already found mine. She tried to proselytize to me just once, and I cut it off pretty fast, reminding her to respect my beliefs, as I was respecting her right to go find a different spiritual path from mine. Eventually, the hip evangelical crowd fell apart and went their separate ways after high school.

      To her, that "religious path" was all about her friends going to a fun church. It didn't carry over into her adult life. In fact, today, as a young adult, she's somewhere between an agnostic and an atheist. And so are all those former church friends that she still keeps up from "back in the day"; almost none of them are even slightly religious today, as far as I can tell. The evangelical dogma previously drummed into them with such enthusiasm by that church was abandoned when they got a little older.

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  7. Anonymous4:16 AM

    Fascinating that 20% of Mormons -- one of every five Mormons -- didn't vote for Mitt Romney. That says volumes.

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  8. Anonymous5:08 AM

    The entire moral landscape has changed? How about living as Jesus commanded..."Judge not lest ye be judged." Pontificating hypocrites is what they are.

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  9. Anonymous6:34 AM

    Oh, no, Albert. It's not that we didn't hear your message LOUD AND CLEAR. You and the bishops came out PULPITS BLAZING and were rejected w/extreme prejudice. We're no longer buying what you're selling. Make something else, or close down the shop.

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  10. Anonymous11:19 AM

    Most Christians that have a passing acquaintance with the Bible (Mormans have their own and evangelicals just make crap up) would reject the modern day republican party. See, if the God we serve respected people enough to let them choose their own path and if HE didn't try to set up a government here on earth while He was here, since we are to follow His example, we know we aren't supposed to do that. Instead, we are to help the poor, the sick, the less-fortunate, and by EXAMPLE lead others to Him.
    That's about as far from the republican platform as its possible to get.

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  11. Anonymous11:29 AM

    “An increasingly secularized America understands our positions, and has rejected them.”

    R. Albert Mohler Jr is right, we have heard your message and yes we reject them. We also reject your self-serving claim to moral authority....

    The more hate and intolerance these "religious" people preach, the less followers they will have. They do realize this that is why they are pursuing political offices and promoting after school programs targeted at children. They need power and young minds that can be brain-washed, hmmm that sounds familiar...

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  12. emrysa7:04 PM

    interesting!

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  13. "I visualize a day when candidates will simply keep their religious beliefs to themselves, and avoid discussing their opinions on social issues altogether, for fear of alienating the huge agnostic/atheist voting block that will gain predominance in this country."

    From your keyboard to that invisible sky fairy's ear.
    I'm old enough to remember when politicos didn't flog their faith all over town. You still knew the wackos, but they weren't pushing it into your face all the time. Oh for a return to the good old days. (Does that make me a conservative?
    Hmmm... Isn't that the definition of conservative? It would be nice to have our language back, too.

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