Saturday, December 08, 2012

Realizing that they can no longer win national elections Republicans now want to change the rules. By a show of hands, who did NOT see this coming?

Courtesy of Mother Jones:  

Remember, the presidential election isn't a nationwide contest, it's a state-by-state fight, with each state worth a certain number of electoral votes (the District of Columbia gets 3, too). There are 538 electoral votes total; if you win 270 or more, you're headed to the White House—even, as George W. Bush can assure you, if you don't win the popular vote. The Constitution allows each state to allocate electoral votes however it wants, but in every state except for Nebraska and Maine, the contest is winner-take-all. If you get the most votes in Pennsylvania, you get all of its electoral votes. 

Republicans want to change that. On December 3, Dominic Pileggi, the powerful Republican majority leader of the Pennsylvania state Senate, announced that he plans to introduce legislation that would change how the state allocates its electoral votes. This shouldn't be a surprise: Pileggi was one of the Pennsylvania politicians behind the preelection plan to change Electoral College rules. 

Before the election, Pileggi's plan (backed by a mysterious dark-money group called All Votes Matter) was to allocate electoral votes by congressional district, with the winner of each district receiving one electoral vote and the statewide winner getting a two-electoral-vote bonus. That might not seem like a big deal. But Pennsylvania, like other blue states in the upper Midwest, was subjected to a very effective Republican gerrymander after the 2010 midterm elections. Republicans won 13 of its 18 districts in 2012, so if Pileggi's preelection plan had been in effect, Obama could have been awarded as few as 7 of Pennsylvania's 20 electoral votes, despite winning the state. 

Pileggi's postelection scheme has a new twist. Instead of awarding electoral votes by congressional district, it would award them in relation to the statewide popular vote, with a two-electoral-vote bonus for the winner. That would prevent blatantly undemocratic effects like a candidate losing a state's popular vote but still winning its electoral votes. But it would still have a similar effect to Pileggi's earlier idea—it would ensure that at least some of Pennsylvania's 20 electoral votes, which have gone to Democrats in every election since 1992, would go to Republicans. In a close election, that could change the outcome. 

In other words, the cheating that he GOP did in this last election was not effective so now they want to pass laws to cheat the system in a more overt manner.

So rather than fundamentally change their message in order to reach a younger, less Caucasian, and less gender specific audience, the Republicans are simply looking for a way to continue jamming THEIR values and big business friendly agenda down the throats of the voters who just loudly told them "NO!"

Fuck that!

But hey if we ARE going to change how we count votes in this country, then let's just do away with the electoral college altogether, go to making EVERY vote count, and let the Republicans fight it out state by state, issue by issue, and vote by vote.

Because I will tell you right now, if they did it like that the Republican party would go the way of the Dodo Bird in no time at all. If, that is, they are not already at the brink of extinction.


  1. Anonymous1:21 PM

    How can the system that allows gerrymandering be allowed to continue? A popular tactic in Alaska also

  2. Anonymous1:45 PM

    Hook or crook............mostly crook...

  3. Anonymous1:45 PM

    I so dislike the Republican party - they are so blatant in their actions which is good for the rest of us to be able to see and review!

    I think we should go w/the popular vote across the nation...keep it the same for every state and get rid of the electoral vote. That way no 'playing' w/it can be accomplished - state by state depending who is their majority in each state legislature.

    All I can say is thank God President Obama and VP Biden won this past election. Can you imagine the world of hurt we'd be in had the Repubs won? We'd be at war in another location by now!

    Vote them out - especially Boehner as the head of the House in Congress when he comes up for reelection. Same w/that sad case McConnell! Boehner is known to be a drunk in D.C.. What about the ethics of these guys folks? They scare me!

    Members of Congress should have their pay lowered (because they recess so damned often and don't work!) and their benefits downsized. They should not come away from having served in Congress as millionaires. We need new blood back there so badly. Tenures need to be applied too.

  4. Anonymous2:01 PM

    All I want is for the Republicans to understand that, if they really cared about the American people, they wouldn't have to cheat to win. As it is now, that is their only tactic. Lie during the campaign and then cheat at the polling place.

    1. Anonymous6:02 PM

      thing is they don't give a rats ass about the american people, all's they care about are their corporate handlers, period

  5. Anonymous2:05 PM

    Shit like this is exactly why I'm against doing away with the electoral college. Get rid of the electoral college and knuckle-dragging white supremacists in butt fuck areas of Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona, etc. would "find" a few million votes to make sure their knuckle-dragging candidate wins and in states with big cities there would be a massive effort to keep blacks, Latinos and white urbanites from the polls. This is exactly why we need to keep the electoral college...because it takes too much effort to keep do this in enough states.

    George W. Bush didn't win the popular vote -- but he didn't win Florida either, for what it's worth.

    1. Anonymous2:58 PM

      "George W. Bush didn't win the popular vote -- but he didn't win Florida either, for what it's worth." So true! His brother and Katherine Harris 'delivered' Florida for him, they and the Supreme Court.
      We do need the electoral college. It's a safety net, sort of speak.

  6. Anonymous5:22 PM

    It's the "mysterious dark-money groups" that we need to do away with. Superpacs and lobbying groups are running the country now. And while we're at it. places like the Heritage Foundation, people who put more energy and effort into strategy than they do policy.

  7. Anonymous6:33 PM

    We need to do away with the electoral college entirely. Just do straight popular vote. Whoever has the most votes, wins. How hard is that? I think it would be tougher to cheat that way, too. But I'm sure conservatives would find a way to cheat even that when they're down and out.

    1. Anonymous7:58 PM

      If we do away with the electoral college entirely, then your vote means NOTHING unless you live in the top 20 urban areas. I live in one of those urban areas, and I do not want the POTUS chosen by only the people who live on the coasts and Chicago. The electoral college means that even residents of low-population areas get a voice that is heard. Plus, it's way harder to rig an election in 50 state elections than to hack a national vote counting system.

  8. If we can travel back in time and decide the 2000 election by popular vote, then I am all for it.

  9. Anonymous4:18 AM

    While we're at it, let's eliminate the Presidential 2-term limit too; that'd frost their ass, seeing President Obama win another 3 or 4 terms in office !!

  10. Anonymous5:27 AM

    Ahhh! Pileggi is from my area. Not surprised by this. My area also keep re-electing Nick Micozzie to the House. He is suffering from Alzheimers or some organic brain dysfunction, I am convinced. He is older than he states also, too. I was at a district meeting he came to a few years ago, and he kept calling one of the ward commissioners Peter O' from Lawrence of Arabia. The Guy's name was not Peter O'toole lol and he knew the guy's real name for years. Poor Nick, was just rambling on and on incohertently...and that was TWO election cycles ago. SCARY.


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