Monday, December 10, 2012

Two extremes in child education. Carl Sagan expanding young minds in a science class and the folks at Jesus Camp closing them off in order to protect their efforts with indoctrination.

I don't think the difference could be more stark.

One teaching philosophy welcomes new information and embraces the opportunity to have our minds expanded or changed, the other treats knowledge like an enemy and prepares the students to resist and even attack anything which might shake their faith that all of their questions have already been answered.


  1. Anonymous6:43 AM

    You just ruined my day, Gryphen. :-)

    Now back to the classroom to teach some science.
    REAL science. Today: the magic of entropy.

  2. Anonymous6:54 AM

    My daughter (also in 6th grade) was getting ready to leave for school as I was watching this. She looked at what I was watching and then muttered, "Christians are weird."
    Pretty much sums it up for me.

  3. Anonymous7:09 AM

    This is so sad on so many levels. I am so glad that both of my children have had the benefit of an education free from the ridiculous ideology of religion.

  4. Randall7:14 AM

    take this hammer and BREAK that cup!
    Take these prophesies and MAKE WAR with them!
    KILL for the love of KALI!
    ...I mean, JESUS!
    DESTROY those that disagree with you!!!


    1. Anonymous5:26 PM

      I hope that fat uneducated woman 'meets her maker' before she ruins many more lives.

  5. Those poor kids, although the little girl in purple passing out tissue seemed to be in her right mind. She didn’t seem affected by the ginned up (by adults!) hysteria, just curious and perhaps a little sad. Lord of the Flies, except evoking Jesus. Sick.

  6. You've got to be taught
    To hate and fear,
    You've got to be taught
    From year to year,
    It's got to be drummed
    In your dear little ear
    You've got to be carefully taught.

    You've got to be taught to be afraid
    Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
    And people whose skin is a different shade,
    You've got to be carefully taught.

    You've got to be taught before it's too late,
    Before you are six or seven or eight,
    To hate all the people your relatives hate,
    You've got to be carefully taught!

    1. South Pacific. The Concert Choir (high school) got to see that operetta (?) performed by a school in another town. Since most of us were white and soaked in daily racism, that song rocked us back on our heels. We were very quiet on the bus ride home.

  7. WTF...They teach them to hate and be afraid. It just boggles the mind to see this kind of behavior being taught to young children. Nothing short of brain washing!!!

  8. WOW! That Jesus Camp thing was disturbing on so MANY levels! Those poor poor kids.

    I have a daughter in sixth grade and guess what she put on her Christmas list...a telescope and microscope...both will be arriving by FedEx today!

    1. Anonymous9:55 AM

      She should be able to see Jupiter´s moons. Learn their names, GinaM, and teach them to your daughter. Your daughter will grow up believing all mothers know the names of another world´s moons.

      And when she finds out they don´t, she will never look at you in the same way again.

  9. fromthediagonal7:56 AM

    Thank you, dsmyre...

    Yes, that was and is most poignant song from South Pacific.
    It never made it into radio play, And it still is virtually unknown.
    Why? Because it did not fit into the exclusionary
    mindset of the time and it still does not.

    The more things change
    The more they remain
    The same!

  10. Anonymous8:54 AM

    Parents Who Beat 7 Year Old To Death For Not Reading Bible Called Pastor Before 911

  11. Anonymous9:14 AM

    That camp footage was disturbing to me too. What religion or sect is that group? I can't grasp any religious denomination declaring war to demand their extremism be practiced by all citizens in public schools. I grew up in a family where we received our religious education at church and attending religious education class. We did not cast everyone else as the "devil" vowing to destroy them.

    Now, enlightened by this chilling video, I can make sense of Bill O'Reilly rantings about the "war on xmas" I saw last week. I thought wtf are they saying? Anyone is free to put a nativity scene on their lawn, sing hymms, sing O Holy Night etc. No one is stopping them! People have freedom to have their associations celebratimg xmas void of Santa, Pere Noel not engaging in commercialism.

  12. Anonymous10:34 AM

    Makes me proud to be a public school teacher!

  13. Anonymous10:46 AM

    It would've been more effective(look less manipulative) if the video did not have the music playing over the religious scenes.

  14. angela11:57 AM

    Man is Miller dumb. DeMint did a Palin and ran for the money.
    When will poor baggers get that all the other baggers could care less
    about their political crap----they just want to be rich.

  15. angela11:59 AM

    Oops. Wrong thread for previous Demint comment.

  16. I'll take Carl Sagan. He teaches something that is real and tangible. Jesus Camp teaches something that is not real and tangible.

  17. I'm so glad my parents were sane

  18. Anonymous4:53 PM

    SCARY SH*T!!!!!
    WOW!!!!! I can't believe parents voluntarily expose their kids to that type of brainwashing!!!!
    Makes me scared for our future...

  19. Anonymous5:50 PM

    The Jesus camp is child abuse!

  20. Anonymous7:32 PM

    Wow that is disturbing. Obviously these kids have been groomed before they even showed up to this camp. i.e. (The girl calling out some lion prophecy). My son is that age, he is so young and yet thinks he knows everything. I imagine he'd walk out if he went there today. If he was spoon fed this crap since birth, I don't know...
    You know what, freedom is freedom let this people proselytize all they want but you know what? Don't let them get ONE DIME of federal money! I'm so tired of these people screaming about their right to religion. Where's my right to NO religion and I don't want my taxes to go toward that crap. I would rather send the welfare check to the single mom who left her abusive husband than to these "christians" who don't give two shits about their neighbor.

  21. Anita Winecooler8:29 PM

    I really enjoyed the first part, the second part was pornographic to me. Those children will need lifetimes of de-programming, love and counseling.

    I'm going to go out on a limb here, wanna bet that hammer and that EVIL "gubmint" cup were purchased with a tax exempt status ID number?

  22. Becky6:48 AM

    Wow!! Nothing like ignorant morons in charge of kids smashing cups, flying glass, and not a pair of safety glasses in sight!


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