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| Chis Kyle with actor Dean Cain on set of "Stars Earn Stripes." |
Former Navy SEAL and “American Sniper” author Chris Kyle was fatally shot along with another man Saturday on a Texas gun range, a sheriff told local newspapers.
Erath County Sheriff Tommy Bryant said Kyle, 38, and a second man were found dead at Rough Creek Lodge’s shooting range west of Glen Rose, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram and Stephenville Empire-Tribune. Glen Rose is about 50 miles southwest of Fort Worth.
Erath County Sheriff Tommy Bryant said Kyle, 38, and a second man were found dead at Rough Creek Lodge’s shooting range west of Glen Rose, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram and Stephenville Empire-Tribune. Glen Rose is about 50 miles southwest of Fort Worth.
Witnesses told sheriff’s investigators that a gunman opened fire on the men around 3:30 p.m. Saturday, then fled in a pickup truck belonging to one of the victims, according to the Star-Telegram. The newspapers said a 25-year-old man was later taken into custody in Lancaster, southeast of Dallas, and that charges were expected.
Lancaster police did not immediately return calls for comment.
The motive for the shooting was unclear.
Wow shot to death on a gun range, after authoring a book entitled "American Sniper," and appearing on a television show that glorified war and military weaponry, I don't think there is enough irony to even cover that.
Which is too bad because that means there is not enough left over for the fact that Chris Kyle was also the man assigned to Todd Palin during the truly excruciating "Star Earn Striped" reality show and tasked with the job of teaching him to hold a gun like a man. (Sadly, as evidenced by the picture below, that did not take.)
“He’s Rambo, he’s straight up Rambo,” said Chris Kyle. “Next time I’m in a war, I want Todd Palin on my side.”
Then, Chris added, “He was the first one on the boat, the first one under the wire, and about the time the rest of the guys were getting through, he already had the crate. You don’t need anyone else,” he said. “Forget Chuck Norris, send in Todd Palin.”
Gee if only Kyle would have had Todd with him at that shooting range. Just imagine.
Of course Sarah Palin's ghostwriter has already offered up her condolences:
Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and many friends of former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle tonight. Todd and I first met Chris in Pella, Iowa, when he helped out with security for the premiere of the film “The Undefeated.” And later we became friends with Chris when he was on “Stars Earn Stripes” with Todd. Chris was a wonderful man, a good friend, and a true American hero who loved our country and served honorably. He was loved and admired by so many, and he will never be forgotten.
- Todd and Sarah Palin
God, you can just feel the compassion and sense of loss can't you?
Okay you know this is usually where I would go off on riff about the "Palin curse" and point out how incredibly ironic it was that this man, who had grifted money from the gun nuts by writing a self aggrandizing book entitled "American Sniper: The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History," was killed on a shooting range in bum fuck Texas, but I won't.
And the reason for that is because it is never okay to mock a person's death, and however much this guy may have contributed to the glorification of war and the mythologizing of Todd Palin, he was still a human being. And he lost his life. And that is always a sad day for everyone.
Sarah must be happy to be able to post something on her facebook since she's been in exile.
ReplyDeleteof course-- she's thrilled about it because she made this guy's death all about her.
DeleteSarah can't write a few sentences about someone else without turning it into an infomercial about her and Todd's "careers" and Q rating. She'll never get it. I'm pretty sure a friggin note of condolence should be written to the family of the deceased, not your fucking fan base, Sarah, in which case, don't you think the gentleman's family knows exactly who he is? You are a fucking fool, lady, the least self-aware and most self-centered person I've even seen operate in the public arena. Get a fucking etiquette and read it several times until you learn some manners. Then at least you'll be able to pretend you're a decent person.
DeleteLike its YOUR place to send out a press release since the man was fortunate enough to meet the famous Queen Quitter in person.
What a miserable, disgusting person Sarah Palin proves herself to be, once again, by her self-promotion when the focus should be on others who lost their loved one. Just like Tucson, it's gotta be all about Sarah. Sick woman!
Hint: Next time, send a fucking private note, Sarah, instead of grandstanding. It's such bad form...
The guy was not all that...nice...
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"Ventura released a statement on his Facebook page calling Kyle’s claims completely false, denying he said anything derogatory about the troops, and also denying Kyle’s claim of punching him in the face or even having met Chris Kyle.[13] Kyle said that two Navy SEALs had come forward with the story but no police report has ever existed.[14] At the time of Kyle's death, Ventura was suing Kyle for defamation in court, and the lawsuit was still pending."
Palin curse+ Karma
Well over at BeerFart a commenter actually said "its Obama's fault, he has blood on his hands" Then I pointed out to stoopid pointed head that our Do nothing CONGRESS is cutting funds for Vets.
DeleteDon't know or care what the idiot said. On their comments are on Discus just saying...
Make sure to take a shower after going there...RWcooties!
Todd Palin is a professional PIMP!
DeleteAnd that is a fact.
The Palins are liars and frauds.
Seriously, if a former Navy SEAL at a gun range, with a gun nearby can be killed by a random dude at a gun range, when, presumably, there were tons of "good guys" around with guns and the shooter could get away, clean, THEN THE ARGUMENT ABOUT NEEDING A GUN FOR SELF-DEFENSE IS BASELESS. It ain't working, kiddos.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't even a random dude. It was someone Kyle had brought there with him, a vet with PTSD who Kyle thought would benefit from shooting at a gun range. I'm shaking my head here.
DeleteKris Kyle may have been a prepper like Nancy Lanza (Sandy Hook assault weapon mother). assault weapons and guns are therapeutic in their lifestyle and way of thinking. What say Dr. Phil? Dr. Drew? Doctors? Mental health and assault weapon therapy.
DeleteDoes this mean when someone decides to shoot you they don't give you time to get or aim your gun? The argument that people threatened would shoot disabling or killing the agressor does not hold up. Not for teachers writing on blackboards or movie patrons watching the screen chewing popcorn. Maybe if there was a crowd of people one person might shoot a surprise attacler after many are killed or maimed.
DeleteThis unexpected death is another tragedy.
Ok, this guy shot thousands of people, I do think the Palin curse and Karma at work here.
DeleteI did hear also,too that the others at the range, brave fucks that they are turned tail and RAN!
I don't have a link for that. sorry.
So much for the argument if he only had a gun...
or if he know HOW to shoot a gun.
If I were the palins I would be going to church alot.
Lots of Karma, coming down. Sorry that this guy was involved with the Toadster, and he did transparently try do good with his charity but his killing of so many people tipped the Karmic scales for him.
I'm not talking ill of the dead just stating universal laws of truth.
Cue the Right wing pissing and moaning. "liberal are celebrating Chris's death"!
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Because words like Karma come by the twitter machine?
This guy by his own admission Killed hundreds/thousands of PEOPLE and wrote a book to celebrate it!
Is it any wonder that the words Karma should pop up?
Karma is a universal law that basically means, in their "bibical" terms "You reap what you sow" or treat others as you wish to be treated,
What goes around comes around. Live by the sword die by the sword. etc.
Mentioning that is not "Celebrating". It is a fact.
These asshole will turn anything into a political whinefest!
Oh and at the end the panty sniffer ends with Baldy's words...That G quoted above.
Baldy...Remember John Lennon's song "instant Karma"?
If I were you I would start going to church and confess your multitude of sins...before its too late, Lady Karma does not wait for no one even you Bitch!
I'm willing to bet that Sarah and Todd will use this to their advantage for a photo op at his memorial service.
ReplyDeleteThey think it will distract from all their gates.
Maybe a temporary distraction, but if the PimpGate happens with Todd, or Dairygate blows open , nothing will keep the crimes and ethics debacles of the Paylins from the news.
DeleteShould Trig-gate ever blow open, $arah will be forced to have a Jimmy Swaggart moment, or she'll never be seen on TV or radio again.
Sit down and shut up!
Isn't Toad doing or training for the FeK8? Isn't that why he was on the cover of Alaaaaska magazine? They won't show up for any funeral, thinking the dead dude would want Toad to compete.
DeleteWill Bristol and Todd go to Caleb Moore's funeral?
DeleteI hope more did what I did as to the Alaska Magazine that put Todd Palin on the cover! I actually mailed the cover page back to them w/a letter indicating my disapproval due to Todd not having won the race for a number of years and the fact he is a proven 'pimp'! I also suggested there were many, many more Alaskan men out there that should have graced their cover,,,that actually had REAL authenticity! I indicated too that they should do more investigation before putting someone on their cover!
Delete“Next time I’m in a war, I want Todd Palin on my side.”
ReplyDeleteMake sure Todd is not wearing his mom jeans when he goes to war.
RIP Kyle. He won't have a worry about war and Todd by his side now. He was a RWNJ and attended the Breitbart event for "The Undefeated" propaganda.
DeleteKyle got paid a lot of money to say that.
DeleteOne idea I heard last night. From now on, every time somebody is killed by gunfire, clip the article, or print it from the internet, and mail it to Wayne LaPierce of the NRA. If there's a picture of the victim, so much the better. If it's sent via the mail, somebody has to handle it, and perhaps Wayne can start seeing that his words and actions (or lack thereof) have consequences to real people. email can too easily be deleted.
ReplyDeleteAnother senseless death. If only there had been someone around with a gun, I'm sure he would still be alive.
ReplyDeleteYes, forget Chuck Norris!
ReplyDeleteGryph, I agree -- this is just tragic for Chris Kyle's friends and family.
ReplyDeleteI don't get gun worship and Toad gives me the utter skeeves. But this is just so sad.
Chris Kyle worked with vets suffering from PTSD. I really respect him for that.
http://fitcocares.org/?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=12
Working with them is not the same thing as treating them effectively, bringing a person with PTSD to a gun range to help them get over it was pretty stupid. Chris Kyle is not a therapist, but he thinks he is an expert in all things. His death happened because he overestimated his own skills.
DeleteChris Kyle clearly was not too bright. He was brain washed by the military complex and he came out on the wrong end. It was the life he wanted and he knew his family was likely to be left to suffer. I hope his kids won't have a mother who needs to beg for money at his service. Like the wealthy Mrs. Breitfart, the rich a-hole did not even watch out for his own kids. I hope the American Sniper did better for his kids.
DeleteJustice Catches Up With Author of "American Sniper"
ReplyDelete... In a 2012 interview with Time magazine he was asked what went through his mind when he aimed at a target. His own answer revealed his bleating lack of humanity, robbed from his as certain as he had taken it from his hundred plus victims.
"The first time, you're not even sure you can do it," he said. "But I'm not over there looking at these people as people. I'm not wondering if he has a family. I'm just trying to keep my guys safe to rob and kill from other innocent people. Every time I kill someone, he can't plant an IED. You don't think twice about it. Even if it's a kid, or he wasn't trying to plant an IED...because either way, he can't plant that IED."
http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/topic/3530/
That's just sick shit. Brainwashing. Fuck that mindset.
DeleteThis is a man who thinks he could help someone suffering from Post-traumatic stress disorder?
DeleteHe lived it. You didn't.
DeleteWhat's with the mention of the "Undefeated" in her condolences? Totally unnecessary but typical for the Narcissist of the North.
ReplyDeleteMore than a mention, it turned into all about the Palins.
DeleteShe managed to plug "The Undefeated" in her condolence. What a disgusting POS.
ReplyDeleteIt is disgusting! I think if the sky was falling, she'd still be plugging that frickin' movie. Comets, space debris, chunks of rock, the world in peril, and Sarah standing on top of a hill screaming "go see me, the Undefeated" - support my Sarah PAC!"
DeleteRather than promoting her movie, it just reminds us all how shallow the entire family is. That piece of CRAP "Undefeated" was a waste of film. If I remember correctly not too many fools paid to see it. It was supposed to go nationwide, but had such a poor showing, it was quietly shut down.
DeleteSo true. Why would she feel the need to insert herself anywhere in that crappy FaceBook condolence? Narcissists always think it is about them.
DeleteIf a Navy Seal with a gun can't defend himself against a shooter, then there's not too much hope for anyone else.
ReplyDeleteWORD!
DeleteDefend?? Are you kidding? They were not in a shootout, pal. Kyle was ambushed.
DeleteAnd from Mark1955 at C4P, the rest of the story:
ReplyDelete"First, Thought's and Prayer's to his Young Wife, Family, Friends and loved one's. Second, this stinks to High Heaven's and i am going to Go there and mention the strong possibility of government involvement in his Murder. Everyone start paying attention to the discrepancies in all the stories that are going to be coming out. The deliberate murder of those Seal Team Six member's in Afghanistan in the Chinook helicopter's. Funny how they have a description of a Black Pick-up truck. Yeah, that would make the murderer a Red Neck Right and wouldn't be an attempt to throw us off the scent? sarc. Believe NOTHING about what is going to come out on this in the lamestream and question everything!
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Sorry,not buying this, it all sounds a little cut and dried, like it is designed to stop us from following up immediately and asking question's. Accept none of this and don't stop from being cynical and asking question's. The top Navy Seal sniper in History and a Conservative, would have been considered along with his colleagues, a Major impediment to Obama and the Rockefeller/Rotschild power's that be that would like to impose Martial law and enslave us."
Don't forget the Obama's murdered Breitbart meme that was pushed. People die everyday, there are those that think added drama is necessary for their cause.
DeleteA murder at a gun range? That is something to deflect.
TIN FOIL HAT ALERT! THE C4Pee crowd has spoken, and Glenn Beck will be crying Vicks vaporub tears about this before you know it, cuz it was the CIA, NSA, DIA, or maybe Acorn or Pantherz!!!, also too, you betcha!
DeleteNow the conspiracy starts, and I'm sure it was a HIllary and Barrack false flag operation using local Code Pink girly commandos!
Why IS it that those idiots can't figure out how to use a fucking apostrophe? They have to go out of their way to put it in when it's not correct. Same thing with capital letters. How stupid are they to make an extra effort to get things wrong?
DeleteI know it's not nice, but I keep giggling about the Greatest Sniper In History (tm) being shot at a gun range by somebody with PTSD. Who the hell thought taking him to a gun range was a good idea? Sounds like it must have been a Palin supporter... they're stupid enough.
Aj ~
DeleteIt was Soros!
Somehow...
;)
A J
DeleteYou got most of the usual suspects, so I'll just add a couple more: NAACP and SPCA. Oh, and LSU and TVA. It'll take the baggers a week to figure out what organizations that the abbreviations are referring to. By that time, the skeeter/birther/prepper dunces will be working on another "conspiracy".
I am guilty of favoring facts and truth, so I must call their reaction exactly what it is: A combination of willful ignorance and a small portion of paranoia which are the result of low intelligence and an aversion to learning and critical thinking. Or, in short, Stupid by Preference. Just sayin'.
The Christian conservatives over at the HuffPo are upset that libs are making 'fun' of this tragedy. I didn't read any postings that were making fun of this, other than "live by the gun, die by the gun.'
ReplyDeleteLet me tell you this, however...if a man with a semi-celebrity image, who was very anti-war, anti-gun had been shot to death by a man with a gun, the Christian conservatives would be laughing their asses off, saying things like, 'well, if he only had a gun, this wouldn't have happened.' You can bet on that and take it to the bank.
Oh, and don't you just love how Sarah had to weigh in on this and mention the mockumentary made about her that should have been titled, 'The Unwatched?'
The Unwatched, Defeated, Billion rotten Tomato bullshit pile of Queen Esther's fanatic worshipers' dream of seeing Granny Grifter sit in the Oval Office cuz she's one of "us"
DeleteTell the fucktards to google 'Dr George Tiller' and read the RW nutter comments following every article following his assassination by one of their flock.
DeleteThe Palin ghostwriter was able to pay respects on FB.
ReplyDelete"I first met Chris in Pella, Iowa, when he helped out with security for the premiere of the film 'The Undefeated.' And later we became friends with Chris when he was on “Stars Earn Stripes” with Todd." Palin ghostwriter for Palin
I surmise that these words of grandiose condolences were scribbled by the feeble-minded grizzled wonder, herself.
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Queenie barked the orders, that's fo' sur.
DeleteHas Bristol mentioned Joey Junker's peer that died from an X game accident? She and Joey have no sorrow for their peeps? I thought Todd was big on all that also, too.
DeleteAnon 10;14 we watched ome of the x games and the snowmobile races and other snowmobile events and it took me sbout 2 seconds to see how STOOOOPID they are. I mean, jsut stoooopid suicidal "sports". I said to my kids that these guys can easily get crushed to death by their sleds.....literally one day later Moore was dead. Trust me, I am a HUGE winter sports fan, but those snowmobile things are death on treds.
DeleteYes, G., it isn't good to feel happy about another person's tragedy, or to gloat.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I understand your point. This glorification of war and warrior-like is unfortunate. "He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword" has never been truer. And this is not about those who join the military for many reasons and have to fight. This is about those who have this attitude that the ugliness of war is something to be admired and they decide to exploit it, benefit by it, for money, entertainment.
The hard cold facts are that a few these men, who haven't really thought the thing out, were good soldiers, willing to risk their lives for their country, but then they return with a bent on reliving their glory days and market what they know.
Still, it's tragic that this man had to lose his life by yet another rogue with a gun. I feel awful for his family and wish this carnage would stop.
The other rogue with a gun must have been pretty good at what he did. Anyone else would have been taken out by someone at that range. didn't he murder another man. His loss of life is just as tragic, if he has a family they deserve condolences.
DeleteDid Facebook Palin only mention the one death? And she plugged her crappy documentary and had to bring up Todd's glory days as a teevee super he-man?
Touche' Kyle.
ReplyDeleteYou are one sick puppy.
DeleteNRA will demand an armed guard at every gun range.
ReplyDeleteOf course, the answer is more guns. If guns aren't the answer how about a few Molotov cocktails or what can solve these many many shooting deaths we must get use to. Good thing we aren't a Third World Country and no one has health insurance, too.
DeleteDEATH BY GUN is common place in the USA now. I find myself glad it is not another child. The man had many years to taste life, he is among the fortunate ones. Childhood robbed for children are the deaths that get me the most. Senseless, needless deaths are all sad, condolences to his family. They may not have known it would happen surrounded by guns and guys that could have saved him. They were no doubt prepared for a sudden death by gun since that was the life he chose to live.
ReplyDelete“He’s Rambo, he’s straight up Rambo,” said Chris Kyle. “Next time I’m in a war, I want Todd Palin on my side.”
ReplyDeleteSeriously?
Todd Palin.... Rambo?
If I'm going to war, I would want to fight with someone who has my back and he knows I have his back.
I don't want to be with a low life pimp who makes money off of single mothers.
Todd Palin is no man.
Todd Palin is a low life scum sucking pimp.
Chris Kyle was a talented propagandist. What a pile of crap he unloaded in his publicity script and interviews.
DeleteI'd want a man with a mans voice, a man over feet tall. A man who holds a real job.
DeleteTodd Palin fits your description. No voice. No job.
Deleteis this how "do unto others" works?
ReplyDeleteIts always about Sarah Palin.
ReplyDeleteMan dies and Sarah promotes the movie about her... the Undefeated.
Track joins the Army and Sarah promotes how she raised a combat vet.
Sarah... remember this.... everything is not always about Sarah Palin.
Gotta love Sarah's condolances..MEMEMEMEMEME
ReplyDeleteChis Kyle created hundred of Iraqi orphans by slaying the men of Iraq who only did their best to defend their homeland from the American invaders. Now Chris Kyle's kids will know the pain of becoming an orphan. Poetic justice. It always brings a smile to my face when those who live by the sword die by the sword.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree. We INVADED Iraq. The Iraqi people who were defending there homeland were doing EXACTLY what these "patriotic" gunslingers would be doing if the tables were turned!
DeleteUnfortunately, his children will be raised to think that their father's attitude was heroism. While fatherless Iraqi children will foment hate for the American invaders, and the cycle will continue....
John McCain was also a "brave" hero... flying the planes he didn't crash over agriculture land and many innocent people to bomb, bomb, bomb. If it wasn't for the great US military propaganda machine some of those military types would be locked up for life and not on the prowl for more lies and games at the expense of others.
DeleteAwesome comment!
DeleteYes, McCain was excellent at crashing planes!
DeleteOMG! Are you kidding? What about other wars? What about American orphans? Do you get it?
DeleteAccording to you, we should just sit there on a battlefield and let insurgents shoot us!
3:43: No you don;t get it. We should not be ON the battlefield at all, not when we have millions of hungry kids, when schools are terribly uncderfunded, when our infrastructure is crumbling and people need work, and when all the GOP can do is whine about their big guns and how awful progressives are for wanting to fix THIS country and stop invading others. Iraq did nothing to us. We put Saddam in power. He was keeping the Taliban OUT of his country.
DeleteChris Kyle was a bigoted ignorant dick, the USA is better without the likes of him in it. Yes he's dead, no I am not ashamed of my words, I actually read American Sniper and can see why this psychopath would resonate with Palin and ilk. Birds of a feather and all. UGH!
ReplyDeleteSorry, but he put his life on the line protecting Americans from ambush.
DeleteMan dies and somehow Sarah Palin manages to make the news on CNN.
ReplyDeleteThe Palins have CNN on speed dial. CNN will work for them now. This may be a good job opportunity for her. If she isn't up to it, Bristol can take over.
DeleteShe was a guest or something on CNN? Please tell us more. I'm curious. Did CNN call her for commentary??? WTF is going on?
DeleteComments were cut off after 13 people asked why is this about Palin.
DeleteTime for people to write CNN and suggest they keep her off the air and all the reason why! There are so, so many. The woman does nothing more than generate hate!
DeleteI don't think she was a guest. The cult rarely allows her in public now, remember Todd has to hold her up? Someone wrote some shallow crap for her, used the man's death to promote Palin brand. Whoever half ass functions in the cult contacted CNN with some crap like she was mourning You can read on her Facebook where "she" did more promoting of the Palin brand than mourning. She may be too loaded to even know what her crazy staff is doing, or she mumbles to them that she is mourning but mostly say how great the past film and TV shows were. CHOP, CHOP WORKER BEES. Call CNN, too.
DeleteThe palin curse continues.
ReplyDeleteMy very first thought as well.
DeleteI think Todd is talented, and the one who usually covers for Sarah. But, like some guys, he desires easy money and the dirt he can collect by pimping the women around him. A former sister-in-law got politically involved and was shocked at how often men would pimp an attractive wife. I’d heard Richard Nixon did that with Pat, but thought it was rare.
ReplyDeleteSo this man kills Kyle and another man at a gun range!!! A gun range in Texas. And then this same man is allowed to get in a car and drive away? I don't get it, why didn't one of these TEXAS Rambo "witnesses" shoot the guy? So much for the Texas myth and any NRA argument.
DeleteWhy were the bodies laying around the gun range for 2 hours before they called the police? That doesn't sound right.
DeleteThe case is evolving. It could be that it was an isolated spot. DUH!
DeleteThe NRA argument is taking one beating after another. LaPierre is about as credible as Palin.
ReplyDeleteSandy Hook is a game changer that will never fade from memory.
Wouldn't you think that if the religious right can see a message from God about gays and abortion in every natural disaster, they could see in this death what seems to me like a really clear message from God that the idea of arming everyone to prevent gun deaths is pure bullshit.
ReplyDeleteWell, if you put the message on a piece of toast, they might get it.
DeleteWayne LaPierre Gets so Crazy that Even Fox News Calls Out His BS
ReplyDelete...LaPierre was in full blown crazy mode. When Chris Wallace brought up Supreme Court Justice Scalia’s opinion in the Heller decision that the Second Amendment is not unlimited, LaPierre said, “We have all kinds of reasonable laws right here, the NRA supports, that they enforce them in Chicago and cut crime. But for the most right is to protect yourself, and the American public wants to be able. Semi-automatic technology has been around for a hundred years. If you limit the American public’s access to semi-automatic technology, you limit their ability to survive. If someone’s invading your house, I mean you shouldn’t say you only have fix or six shots. You ought to have what you need to protect yourself, not what some politician thinks is reasonable.”
Chris Wallace played a clip of the NRA ad that uses the president’s kids, and LaPierre’s reply spoke volumes about how far over the cliff the NRA has gone
http://www.politicususa.com/wayne-lapierre-crazy-fox-news-calls-bs.html
Can we say PARANOID???
ReplyDeleteLaPierre: They’re Coming For Our Guns No Matter What They Say
National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre said on Sunday that despite what pro-gun control politicians say or have written in draft legislation, the push for universal background checks is really a veiled step toward the government tracking law-abiding American citizens, most likely for nefarious purposes.
“I think what they’ll do is turn this universal check on the law-abiding into a universal registry of law-abiding people. And law-abiding people don’t want that. My God, that’s the last thing they want,” LaPierre said on “Fox News Sunday.”
After host Chris Wallace pointed out that post-Newtown firearms proposals from President Obama and other Democrats don’t call for a national registry or a confiscation of weapons already in private hands, LaPierre said he wasn’t buying it.
“Obamacare wasn’t a tax until they wanted it to be a tax. I don’t think you can trust these — I mean my gosh, [Sen.] Dianne Feinstein [D-CA] said, ‘If we could go door to door and pick ‘em up, I’d do it,’” he said.
The two sides of the universal background check debate were laid out fairly cleanly on “Fox News Sunday,” with Mark Kelly, husband of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), advocating for it. Though an assault weapons ban was discussed — and largely dismissed as a legislative possibility — the focus was on universal background checks, the top goal of the gun control community after the school massacre in Newtown, Conn.
LaPierre argued that background checks were ineffective, possibly part of a government plot against gun owners, and not a real legislative option because of a powerful “mental health lobby.” He noted that the NRA used to support universal checks but said special interests surrounding mental health and privacy had derailed the effort and led to NRA leaders throwing in the towel.
...Kelly, meanwhile, in a separate interview, called on the government to prosecute more people who try to buy guns at licensed dealers but are denied after a background check. Then he called for legislation aimed at making it harder for someone who can’t buy a gun at a licensed dealer to buy it somewhere else.
“Since 1999, 1.7 million people were prevented from getting a firearm because they had a criminal record or a history of mental illness. We stopped those people from getting a gun,” Kelly said. “Now we’ve got to make sure they don’t have a second option to get the gun and that’s getting a gun from a private seller or the gun show loophole without having a background check. We need to close that loophole.”
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/wayne-lapierre-fox-news-sunday.php?ref=fpa
As only can come from a narcissist, Sara manages to get in a plug for that POS movie - Undefeated. Guess the DVD sales are lagging again. What a bloviating piece of shit she is. The dude died and all she can do is turn it back on her and her pimp husband, as for "never forgetting" my guess is she read the ghost writer's words and said "Ok, what's next on the agenda to get back in the public eye?"
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts exactly. No need for her to say a word publicly. But, having done so, she plugs her family escapades. Shameless, but what else is new?
DeleteScarah is DARK. She does not have to act like a human being b/c she can hide behind ghosts and cult shenanigans.
DeleteIf/when they dress her up again, she may speak.
In a startling collusion between dark-money powerhouses, NRA's efforts were actually funded by a $600,000 grant from Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS
ReplyDeleteThe NRA vs. America
How the country’s biggest gun-rights group thwarts regulation and helps put military-grade weapons in the hands of killers
...Today's NRA stands astride some of the ugliest currents of our politics, combining the "astroturf" activism of the Tea Party, the unlimited and undisclosed "dark money" of groups like Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS, and the sham legislating conducted on behalf of the industry through groups like the American Legislative Exchange Council. "This is not your father's NRA," says Josh Sugarmann, executive director of the Violence Policy Center, a top gun-industry watchdog. Feldman is more succinct, calling his former employer a "cynical, mercenary political cult."
The NRA's alignment with an $11.7 billion industry has fed tens of millions of dollars into the association's coffers, helping it string together victories that would have seemed fantastic just 15 years ago. The NRA has hogtied federal regulators, censored government data about gun crime and blocked renewal of the ban on assault weaponry and high-capacity magazines, which expired in 2004. The NRA secured its "number-one legislative priority" in 2005, a law blocking liability lawsuits that once threatened to bankrupt gunmakers and expose the industry's darkest business practices. Across the country, the NRA has opened new markets for firearms dealers by pushing for state laws granting citizens the right to carry hidden weapons in public and to allow those who kill in the name of self-defense to get off scot-free.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-nra-vs-america-20130131#ixzz2JrNLX9Dd
I might add. there's no valor in writing a self congratulatory history of your record at killing other humans like this guy did. As an Marine charged with sniping duties a few times there's nothing that digs your craw taking a shot like that. More bad memories from that than most anything else
ReplyDeleteNew York Times columnist Paul Krugman on Sunday asserted that the National Rifle Association (NRA) had been “revealed as an insane organization” that “has this vision that we’re living in a Mad Max movie” because it wants to put more guns in schools instead of supporting universal background checks and limits on military-style weapons.
ReplyDelete“We’ve gotten a glimpse into the mindset of the pro-gun people,” Krugman observed. “And we’ve seen certainly with [NRA CEO] Wayne LaPierre and some of these others, it’s bizarre, they have this vision that we’re living in a Mad Max movie and that nothing can be done about it, that America cannot manage unless everybody’s prepared to shoot intruders, that the idea that we have a police force that provides public safety is somehow totally impractical, despite the fact that that is in fact the way we live.”
“Now the craziness of the pro-gun lobby has been revealed,” he added. “And that has got to move the debate and got to move legislation, at least to some degree.”
Raw Story (http://s.tt/1zjsF)
Gun Control Group Buys Ad Spot for Today's Super Bowl: Watch It Now
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thenation.com/blog/172622/gun-control-group-buys-ad-spot-todays-super-bowl-watch-it-now#
Fox News Host Blows Up At NRA Head: ‘That’s Ridiculous And You Know It, Sir!’
ReplyDeletehttp://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/02/03/1532881/fox-news-host-blows-up-at-nra-head-thats-ridiculous-and-you-know-it-sir/
Wayne made a complete fool of himself during that interview in which Chris Wallace effectively skewered him. Wallace asked logical and important questions without prejudice and LaPierre couldn't answer even one without stepping on his dick. When do you think the board at the NRA is going to get a clue that Wayne just might not be their best spokesperson?
DeleteSheesh
In Just One Month, The NRA Has Torpedoed Its Reputation
ReplyDeleteIn separate polls conducted by Public Policy Polling and the Washington Post/ABC News, the association's favorability ratings sit underwater with the majority of Americans.
The PPP poll shows a big shift from before CEO Wayne LaPierre's press conference, which cast blame on the media, and violent video games and movies for the elementary-school massacre in Newtown, Conn., last month. Before the press conference, 48 percent of Americans viewed the organization in a positive light, compared with 41 percent who viewed it unfavorably.
After the press conference and a subsequent appearance on "Meet the Press," the NRA's favorability shifted to a 42-45 negative split — a 10-point swing in three weeks.
Meanwhile, the Washington Post and ABC found that the NRA's favorability rating is underwater for the first time ever in their limited polling of the question. According to the poll, only 36 percent said they have a favorable opinion of the NRA, compared with 44 percent who view it in a negative light.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nra-approval-ratings-press-conference-gun-control-video-games-media-2013-1#ixzz2JrTqWkMz
Remember that the membership of the NRA represents a 'small' portion of the population of the USA! They are as much disliked as is the United States Congress!!!
Delete(donning stylish aluminum-foiled-lined white straw boater aka "a grover')
ReplyDeleteWake up, sheeple!!! A few days ago the media publishes a photo of that black man named Hussein living in the White House firing a shotgun and now an American war hero/reality TV star is dead by gunfire. Coincidence? CLEARLY NOT!!
If that dead hero had not been prevented by misguided libruls from carrying his weapon he likely would not be dead today.
When will the MSM investigate this so-called Obama character for his direct role in killing hundreds, if not tens or possibly hundreds of thousands of American heroes?
(removing grover)
Carry on.
9:24 You are one sick idiot!!! Put a photo of President Obama shooting a gun on the front page and all hell breaks loose by the right! They think the picture is photo shopped of all things. Should we expect anything else from them and you?
DeleteThank God we have President Obama and VP Biden leading our nation and not the friggin Republicans that have run against him. The people have spoken and they are not behind you guys!
OOPS - This 'Beldar Conehead' must be some sort of imposter!! The 'Beldar Conehead' who usually posts here, is sometimes sort of entertaining, and sort of funny. But this guy's post @ 9:24 AM is neither entertaining, fun, cute, nor funny, and etc.
DeleteThis post is really tacky-bad, and more than typical of most of the mouthy trolls, who love hanging out here. *UGH*
Ummm...11:17AM...Beldar is our resident satirist.
Delete*GinaM speaking in her Mr Magoo voice*
Oh Beldar...you did it again!
LOL!!
Is sarcasm THAT hard to comprehend???
Delete9:24..not a joking matter..totally not funny!
DeleteAnita....looks that way to some!
DeleteNothing tacky about that post - it covers EXACTLY what right wing blogs are saying
DeleteAnd it IS funny - how totally off the planet do the Palin followers have to be before some can recognize sarcasm and wit. If you don't laugh you would be crying into next Christmas
So it turns out the guy who killed him was a vet with PTSD whom Kyle was helping. Maybe treating PTSD by going to a gun range works for some people, but you have to wonder if Kyle had any training in counseling or treating people with PTSD.
ReplyDeleteI doubt he had any training in counseling or treating people with PTSD. More than likely, he just thought that 'hey, we're all big tough guys, I'm a sniper, I can help this guy.'
DeleteGuns solve everything.
DeleteIt's like Mrs. Lanza keeping a shitload of guns in a house with a clearly mentally ill son. What could possibly go wrong? I think the last place a PTSD sufferer would want to visit is a gun range. Perhaps the poor guy had a break from reality and thought he was back in a war zone.
DeleteSomething about Kyle reminds me of the character in Hurt Locker. Couldn't adjust to not being in war.
Many seem to be forgetting that the shooter is the biggest victim here. Traumatized in war and now will spend his life in jail - with little help for his mental health. Every which way this is the result for love of guns above all else.
DeleteIf you have lived it, you can help.
DeleteThe Palin curse continues.
ReplyDeleteGrow up. Seriously the hate in your heart has to be taxing. Normal, happy people don't think like you. Normal people don't make nasty judgments, judgments that only come from the left.
DeleteAnon: 10:29: "Normal" people like the Palins who have made judgments against liberals, gays, women who want equal rights, etc., etc.?
DeleteSarah Palin, who 'judged' Nancy Pelosi as a 'dingbat?'
Anonymous10:29 AM
DeleteThrow up. Seriously the smell from your bedpan has to be taxing. Normal, happy people don't like you. Normal people don't worship a family of hillbillies, hillbillies that only come from Wasilla, AK.
You're welcome Krazy! LOL!!!
10:29 You are full of shit!!! Just knowing the Palins and their history is more than enough to be thoroughly disgusted by them. They are frauds and liars and there assuredly IS a Palin curse. Go back through the records, you idiot. It can ALL be proven!
DeletePalin curse is a fact.
DeleteWhy must a different viewpoint (or logic) be labled as hatred?
DeleteIndeed the irony of a man trained to kill, teach people marksmanship killed at a shooting range must be too obvious for people incapable of reason.
10:29
DeleteYeah, when it comes to Palin we do!
This incident just demonstrates, once again, that we are not doing nearly enough for the veterans coming home from combat. We train them to kill, send them on tour after tour after tour in countries where the enemy can turn out to be the man fighting next to you, and expect them to fit into regular society with no adjustment when their time is over.
ReplyDeleteClearly we need to do much more to help our veterans, whether they are affected by PTSD or not, to make that transition to home life safer and easier for them and their families.
DeleteToo bad if media's main focus is the American Sniper as great guy and the PTSD victim's story is shuttered.
We need to help rather than ignore our soldiers who succumb to this awful disorder. And, the people who are helping should be qualified to do so. I can assure you it is such a miserable affliction families are at a loss as to what to do for their loved ones.
DeleteThis Kyle sniper dude would be praised for doing brain surgery on other veterans that came back from a war I betcha.
DeleteRight on, HELP THE SOLDIERS THAT RETURN FROM WAR. The people who set up "help" but are in it for their own sake, they need to be called out for not helping. In fact, they hurt others. Chris Kyle needs to be further investigated. So much sounds stinky about this whole story. America doesn't need anymore fake heroes. Remember they tried to make a hero out of Jessica Lynne? the military manipulated Pat Tilman killing. John McCain is a worse fraud then Sarah Palin, no wonder he thought her little fake pregnancy would be easy to cover up and rewrite for history.
DeleteHe put his life on the line - Todd Palin didn't. Soldiers who have been to war are able to help soldiers returning from deployment. They can relate better than we can!
Delete3:36 PM That is true in general, soldiers helping soldiers. We do not yet know if it applies to this killing with the semi automatic hand gun. At a gun range in Texas. Time will tell more, we hope. The military likes to control stories that reflect on them or one of their stars.
DeleteEVerything they touch turns to shit or death eventually. Ya think Alaskans would spill alll the beans on them and out them out of commission and free themselves of "the curse".
ReplyDeleteEveryday there is more proof that the Palin curse is fact. How many more to be ruined or killed? They may even be the disgrace and why the SS leader resigned. Palin has been hell for our government and political system. Thnks McCain.
DeleteWhen all Sarah has proven she can do with proficiency is to fling poo, it's not surprising to hear her former supporters make anonymous remarks about Sarah always smelling like shit. Plus, except for the brief period when the RNC was dressing her and styling her hair/wigs and doing her make-up, she always looks like shit, also, too.
DeleteThe arrested man is a former marine who was suffering from PTSD. Yet, Kyle thought it was wise to take the man to a gun range. NRA says only thing that will stop a bad man with a gun is a good guy with a gun. What does that mean? Were there no good men with guns at the gun range? How did the marine with PTSD end up killing two men with guns and drive away without being stopped?
ReplyDeleteKyle knew this man had PTSD, and he was "treating" him without a clinical license. Why on earth did he believe giving a mentally ill man a gun would be therapy?
It was like Adam Lanza's mother taking her son to the gun range to bond, even though she knew that he was mentally disturbed.
Don't judge things you don't know. Common sense.
DeleteAnonymous10:27 AM
DeleteUmmm....Krusty....I think the ammonia smell from your bedpan is making you loopy again!
Remember you promised the therapist that you were going to stop "judging anonymous commenters on defunct blogs because you don't know them"...well I see you've broken that "Step"...now you have to start all over again! Good luck dummy! LOL!!!
10;27 I will judge. PTSD is serious and not to be messed around with blithely. Clearly, taking this man to the gun range was a wrong move...one an experience licensed therapist would NOT do at this stage o the mans recovery. It obviously triggered him.
DeleteGina just mention Todd Palin's Prostitution Ring and Krusty will disappear. None of the Palins nor their Bots will respond to the Pimping and Sex Trafficking. Hmmmm, could it be that the TRUTH can't be denied?
DeleteSince Kyle was such a good friend and a "real" American, wouldn't a hand written note to his family be the proper etiquette? Seems it would be just a bit more sincere. But that's just me.
ReplyDeleteSo you're criticizing ALL Chris' friends who expressed their condoleances via twitter? Grow up.
DeleteYou have NO idea what people do in private other then yourself.
It more for the publicity to herself she's after than giving her condolences to a grieving family privately.
DeleteAnonymous10:25 AM
DeleteYou have NO idea what people do in private other then yourself.
KRUSTY!! You are so nasty! Nobody here wants to hear about what YOU "do in private" under your covers...while laying in your pissy smelling bed...please keep that shit to yourself! LOL!!!
The Palins are public figures, even if they are a world wide joke. They play the part of "politicians" not saying they are convincing. But they want to be taken serious in that manner. The fact is they do on handle anything professional or well for a family that wants to be among political thinkers. They should not be twittering like twitter friends. They should have handled this as mature intelligent people if they want to play the political or even reality stardom games.
DeleteA handwritten note to the family would be appropriate, but that's assuming the Palins even knew where his family lived. I'm sure they only interacted with the stuntman, and were so happy that he complimented wimpy Todd. So Sarah did what she always does: made a public statement. Who cares any more. I want to read her confession!
DeleteOK, Griffin...c'mon now.. you're not
ReplyDeletestartin' to make this up, are you? I
mean...you have to admit, it's getting a
little far fetched.
ONe person made a good point. Why is this about Palin? Well first of all, that's a good reason to get a hardon over a killing and the other reason is that any gun death now is going to be celebrated with a hardon. Proving two things: Palin is still very much alive and in the news and also that the US is never going to do anything worthwhile about it's gun problems.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous10:20 AM
DeleteWRONG troll! Baldy Palin is not "alive"...have you SEEN her lately? She's a corpse sporting an ugly wig...wearing glasses being dragged around car shows by her pimp!
RAM is still on the BaldyPac payroll and farted out that bullshit drivel on Baldy's Fakebook account last night.
The Baldy curse touches EVERYONE and that includes your dumbass...better watch out troll...the bald fella is coming for ya'! LOL!!!
And who is the bald fellow coming for him gina? Settle down girl, it's not worth getting worked up over.
Delete¨...the US is never going to do anything worthwhile about it's gun problems.¨
DeleteIt´s different this time. Inaction is not an option. The NRA is learning the hard way Americans value their children more than their guns.
I own several shotguns. My favorite is an LL Bean limited edition 100th anniversary Merkel of Germany made shotgun. My daughter won´t go hunting with me unless she gets to use it. She thinks it ¨pretty.¨ That´s why it´s my favorite.
I canceled my NRA membership after Columbine.
Anonymous11:13 AM
DeleteAwww...what's wrong "troll from canada"...you trying to act like you don't love sniffing Baldy's dirty stanky draws....let me say this in troll speak then....
Baldy Louise Heath Palin is CURSED...the witch doctor Muthee did it to her...now everything...and everyone who defends her...worships her ugly tranny face and thinks she's "in the news" will be touched by the Baldy curse...and that curse does reach "canada"...good luck and Godspeed troll...there is no CURE for the curse! LOL!!!
Oh wow, the witch doctor. Wondered where the curse came from. Good call.
Delete10:20 AM You have a fetish about a 'HARDON' , just like your Idol Sarah Palin. But Glen Rice is no longer available. You will have to settle fot the 2-toned 2-inch TAWD'S penis.
DeleteChad Littlefield and his family are victims. too. As are the family of Eddie Ray Routh. They all deserve the truth. How was it Routh showed no warning signs, mental health symptons? He was allowed guns and to shoot at the range?
ReplyDeleteGLEN ROSE, Texas — A 25-year-old man was charged with murder in connection with a shooting at a central Texas gun range that killed former Navy SEAL and "American Sniper" author Chris Kyle and his friend, the Texas Department of Public Safety said Sunday.
Police found the bodies of Kyle, 38, and Chad Littlefield, 35, at the shooting range about 50 miles southwest of Fort Worth.
"What I know is Chris and a gentleman – great guy, I knew him well, Chad Littlefield – took a veteran out shooting who was struggling with PTSD to try to assist him, try to help him, try to, you know, give him a helping hand and he turned the gun on both of them, killing them," Cox said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/03/eddie-routh-chris-kyle-murder-navy-seal_n_2611117.html
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/chris-kyle-shot-killed-87099.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/navy-seal-chris-kyle-killed-gun-range-marine/story?id=18389238
ReplyDeleteChris Kyle knew the man had PTSD, and wanted to play Therapist without having a license. He thought shooting guns was good medicine, and ended up getting himself and his neighbor killed. Kyle's foundation needs to be examined, because if he is "treating" others with PTSD and does not have licensed therapists employed and overseeing the services then he is doing them all a disservice. I thought the goal was to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, not to encourage them to get back into the saddle of shooting guns.
It is always good for PR to say you help
DeleteVets. It is also a huge charity scam to do for Vets and take the money for yourself. ABSOLUTELY Chis Kyle "foundations" or "therapy" or whatever it is, MUST BE INVESTIGATED. There are other things like this going on. Those Vets are victimized by people and other Vets that are helping themselves by pretending to help the sick Vets.
It takes a great ego to write a book about yourself as Kyle did. He clearly lied about Todd, so he is another brainwashed puppet.
What the hey was he doing acting as a helper of someone suffering from PTSD?
Was he helping or doing something to make himself look and feel good?
I agree. Why would anybody think going shooting with soldiers suffering from PTSD is therapy? I must be missing something here.
DeleteRead the book. If you haven't lived it like soldiers do, you don't need to pass judgment. They know better than anyone how to help with PTSD.
DeleteAnonymous3:33 PM True about knowing better.
DeleteThat doesn't mean other times soldiers don't go wacko and do violent deadly things to one another. No one knows what it was all about yet. Just some gabbing about first impressions. Kyle has a publicity machine behind him. The public only knew his script, not what all went on in his personal life. The shooter and the dead may have met as two guys from the same hell hole but no one else knows how it actually went down. The guy in jail doesn't have a publicist and fan base.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin?ref=stream
Sarah's Facebook only addresses the death of one man, the man they knew. She doesn't give a shit about the incident, only mentions prayers to Kyle's many friends. Not a word about the man she and Todd did not meet, Chad Littlefield. The Palin brand is weird and inappropriate beyond words. The world only revolves around the Palins, if you didn't lie about Todd being a great warrior, you and your family don't deserve a mention.
Excellent observation and comment. Do the Palins really care or is it that Sarah Palin seen an opportunity to post a comment on her facebook?
DeleteWell, killed on Groundhog Day. Guess Kyle won't be seeing his shadow ever again.
ReplyDeleteThere is a place where poor old Kyle will be 'reliving' his day of death over and over for eternity. That is some bad reaping on what he sowed.
DeleteSorry you don't respect soldiers who put their lives on the line for you, armchair soldier!
DeleteNot for me. Iraq was a war of choice and was a big mistake. /he put his life on the line for nothing, for a big mistake. Take the armchair stuff somewhere else, we know you are a big warrior.
DeleteBoy, there surely is a Palin curse out there! Todd Palin looks like a flake in that photo...plus, no one is mentioning that that TV series wasn't received well or renewed! Another Palin curse, wouldn't you say?
ReplyDeleteDown w/the friggin' Palins - may Sarah, Toad and Bristol rest in hell - as I'm sure it awaits them!
If HELL won't take them what next? I think there is a place far worse for people like the Palins.
DeleteSo much for the "only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun" theory, La Pierre.
ReplyDeleteThis is EXACTLY the same thinking as Nancy Lanza had that cost her and 26 others their lives. Since when does going to a firing range improve one's self-esteem? It does NOT compute in rational thinking.
The Tundra TRIBE'S "condolences" are nothing but fluff and, if anyone thinks Sarah penned that response, LMAO!
I'm thinking they were trying to treat the PTSD with exposure to gun fire in a safe environment. This is what happens when amateurs try to fix what doctors have spent their entire lives treating. See this link for the VA method of treating PTSD. http://www.ptsd.va.gov/public/pages/treatment-ptsd.asp
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, they shutter too much about Jeremy Morlock and how the military treated his problems. Didn't he request from friend of family Palin for help? The experience I've seen with PTSD is they give them all the drugs in the world, use them like guinea pigs.
DeleteIt would be good to know what therapy course Kyle was following. Any medications and what procedures they were doing should come out in the future. Either that or there will be more cover up. The media will follow the propaganda of praising those they want to make into "heroes".
Read the book.
DeleteKyle assisted a lot of soldiers coming back after deployment. It's a matter of record. Read before commenting.
I read the book. Any questions?
Anonymous3:30 PM
DeleteI read the book. Any questions?
Yes, why did Kyle hitch his wagon to a couple of grifters from Wasilla? Didn't he know about the Palin Curse?
Who cares? That's a question.
DeleteTwo men were murdered, families are hurting. Why would Sarah Palin vaguely mention 'family and friend' and only name a mourning for one? Do you have to know a person to mention mourning their loss? Is that a military thing... to only mention the most famous or only a person that you met? What is wrong with CNN and anyone that is repeating this shallow story line?
ReplyDeletehttp://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/03/palin-mourns-former-navy-seal-killed-at-gun-range/
Because that is the one they are responsible for due to the Palin Curse.
DeleteWill we ever learn what actually went down at the Rough Creek Lodge in Glen Rose? Why did it take so long to call the police with two dead bodies? There is a near 2 hour gap and who is the "someone else"? What does that mean?
ReplyDeletehttp://news.yahoo.com/man-charged-fatal-shooting-ex-seal-author-150201265.html
Sheriff Tommy Bryant said the trio went to the shooting range around 3:15 p.m. Saturday. Someone else came across the bodies of Kyle and Littlefield around 5 p.m. and called 911.
The U.S. military confirmed Sunday that Routh was a corporal in the Marines from June 2006 to January 2010. He was deployed to Iraq in 2007 and Haiti in 2010. His current duty status is listed as reserve.
( You can be suffering from PTSD and be current in the reserve. That explains Track Palin. Isn't Track Palin in the reserve? )
If "someone else came across the bodies" how could there have been "witnesses" as stated in most of the reports? There is much that does not compute in this story.
DeleteSurfpnsbch
All he is is a cold blooded killer. Nothing to celebrate here. COLD. BLOODED. KILLER.
ReplyDeleteDuring his 10-year stint as a Navy SEAL sniper, Chris Kyle was in every major battle of the Iraq war and was so effective at killing Iraqis that they called him "The Devil Of Ramadi" while placing an $80,000 bounty on his head.
At 225 confirmed kills, his fellow SEAL Team 3 members called him "The Legend" and picked the comic book character The Punisher as their platoon's mascot.
His first kill was a woman about to throw a hand-grenade at a group of Marines. His most distant kill was from 2,100 yards away outside Sadr City in 2008.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/chris-kyle-devil-of-ramadi-killed-at-a-texas-gun-range-2013-2#ixzz2Js4DMpn4
Will the guy with PTSD get the $80,000?
DeleteWhat was he supposed to do in Iraq? Just sit there and not shoot anybody? He was there to protect our soldiers on the ground from being ambushed. Read the book, armchair soldier. It goes into great detail about the Rules of Engagement and when you are and are not allowed to shoot someone. That woman was about to throw a grenade at Americans. Would you rather him kill our Marines????
DeleteHe died doing what he loved to do.
DeleteIf only there was "A good guy with a gun" at that shooting range, this tragedy would NEVER have happenend!!!!!
ReplyDeleteGuess THAT theory just got blown to smithereens.
Yeah, it's sad that these two people died, but the irony is so undeniable!
The facebook post is word salad for word salad's sake. And since when did "Todd" precede "Sarah" in the sign off?
You beat me to it!
DeleteTrevor Cox, the director of Fitco Cares, a foundation Kyle helped establish for veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder. Fitco Cares foundation, an offshoot of Fitco Fitness.
ReplyDeleteThe director of Fitco Cares, Cox, knew nothing about the shooter nor did Fitco Cares.
Kyle was moonlighting, involved his now deceased neighbor. He was just trying to help.
Washington Post is running a series on guns in America. Today's installment is priceless, about filthy rich Rhode Island blogger turned gun owner who packs a Glock when he goes to the Starbucks in his tony, well-heeled neighborhood. It's on his hip even when he's chillin' at home with his nine-year-old daughter. It's worth a read for a little insight into what I consider to be the paranoid, mentally ill mind of many gun owners.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/this-gun-rights-backer-armed-with-his-glock-and-his-blog-is-always-on-alert/2013/02/02/2467d81e-6c87-11e2-ada0-5ca5fa7ebe79_story.html?hpid=z3
Very sad, and illustrative of how hard it is to protect yourself from a random attacker with a gun. As far as I'm concerned, this sounds like both shooter and victims are more war casualties: http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/decorated-seal-author-american-sniper
ReplyDeleteIraq vet charged in fatal shooting of ex-SEAL
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wfaa.com/news/national/189563251.html
How come Todd Palin never served in the military, or "meelatary" as he calls it? Just wonderin'...
ReplyDeleteHe's a fake.
DeleteHe had to marry poor pregnant Sarah and save Curtis' son. He had to fish? He had to get a BP job on the slopes? He's chicken?
DeleteWow. What could go wrong, taking a guy suffering from PTSD out to a shooting range for "therapy".
ReplyDeleteWe are not getting the whole story. Kyle wasn't taking anyone anywhere for the PTSD foundation. He was just at the gun range with his buddies. They have to build him up to fit an image. So he was said to be helping someone.
ReplyDeleteI would like to hear the actual series of events at the shooting of two men. Why did all these friendly gun enthusiasts wait so long to call the police. Something is very wrong with the info we have so far.
If you would read, or read the book, you would know that he has done a lot for soldiers returning from combat. It doesn't matter what he was doing that very minute, but what he has done for soldiers returning home.
DeleteAnonymous3:22 PM
DeleteUh....I thought you were taking questions...why are you yammering "read the book"...I thought you wanted us to ask YOU questions. LOL!!!
So. Chris Kyle had a gun. Probably many guns. And he knew how to use them.
ReplyDeleteAnd yet, he couldn't protect himself from being shot to death.
Too bad La Pierre wasn't standing right next to him. I'm sure he could have defended Kyle.
Or not.
Opportunities lost.
Why can't they ever know if Routh was on medication? Sheriff Tommy Bryant didn't know if Routh was on any medication. "I don't know that we'll ever know. He's the only one that knows that," Upshaw said.
ReplyDeleteDid they not test Routh when he was arrested/ They could test his hair. There would be no medical records?
If this Kyle is such a great guy his pals will want to know every little thing about his killer. The media can't find his friends or family? Landlord, neighbors? Anyone that observed him before this tragedy?
Haven't read all the comments...sorry. But one would maybe have to ask Mr. LaPierre about that whole "only thing better than a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
ReplyDelete...Cause, wouldn't the good guy here have been the 4 time tour-of-duty Iraq war veteran? And the bad guy the one that killed him and the other guy?
So methinks either this world isn't as it seems (meaning bad is good and good is bad) OR...Mr. La Pierre is full of MALARKEY!!!!!!!!!!!
I went over to CNN to read the story and when I clicked on the title the first thing you see is a video and it has a picture of Todd Palin! WTF? Disgusting! Are the Palin's in CNN's pocket now?
ReplyDeleteLink:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/03/justice/texas-sniper-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t1