Monday, July 15, 2013

George Zimmerman to get his gun back, as lawyer says he has even "more reason" to need it now. Meanwhile protestors hit with rubber bullets fired by police. Update!

Courtesy of Mediaite:

George Zimmerman is about to get his gun back, and defense attorney Mark O’Mara says he has “even more reason” to carry it now that many are angry over his acquittal. 

Zimmerman’s Kel Tec 9 pistol will be returned to him, pending a decision about his concealed weapons permit. 

“Even more reason now, isn’t there?” O’Mara said, when asked by ABC News if ZImmerman was intending to rearm himself now that he is a free man. “There are a lot of people out there who actually hate him, though they shouldn’t.” 

Why? Why would this man even want to own a gun again?

And as for needing it now more than ever? Well that would indicate that Zimmerman has NO remorse and is ready and willing to take yet another life.

I guess now we simply wait until Zimmerman murders the next black teenager that makes him feel frightened. I wonder what his excuse will be THIS time?

Meantime last night protests broke out all over the country. Most were peaceful though a few got a little out of hand.

The police were quick to deal aggressively even with the peaceful ones.

Courtesy of NBC: 

NBC News reported that in New York City, thousands of demonstrators marched from Union Square to the tourist-heavy Times Square Sunday night, slowing and in some cases halting traffic. WNBC reported the area was gridlocked with people holding signs in support of Martin and calling Zimmerman’s acquittal a failure of the judicial system. 

In Los Angeles, the group of at least 200 was cleared from I-10 by about 7 p.m., when LAPD officers began firing rubber bullets, protesters said. Some of the first tweets showing photos of people on the freeway were posted shortly after 6 p.m. 

At least two major protests were held in Los Angeles, beginning about 4 p.m. - one at Martin Luther King Jr and Crenshaw boulevards and another in Leimert Park in South Los Angeles. 

Several people were also struck by bean bags in a shopping center near 10th Avenue and Washington Boulevard in Mid-City, said Jasmyne Cannick, who tweeted photos of the protesters and said she and an attorney were observing the rally. 

"They're in pain and I don't know what's going to happen to them," Cannick said. 

She said that protesters seemed confused and panicked once officers began firing the bean bags at them from multiple sides.

As I said some of the protests got heated, including in Oakland where there was some minor property destruction and at least one burnt flag.

Of course it was those latter incidents that were the focus of Right Wing reports, even though the aggressiveness paled in comparison to the property damage that often follows a disappointing loss or unexpected win of a city's favorite hockey or football team.

P.S. By the way THIS is what happens when a black man shoots a white teenager

I guess standing in his own house while confronted by an angry mob of white kids threatening his family is not reason enough not to fire his weapon. Gee, if only they had been black.

Update: Well it appears that one of the Zimmerman jurors wasted no time in trying to cash in.

I think I feel a little nauseous.

60 comments:

  1. You can sign that petition at colorofchange.org.

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  2. Anonymous6:59 AM

    Robert Zimmerman, George's shithead brother was on tv as soon as possible after the verdict to further insult Trayvon Martin. There is something seriously wrong with the Zimmerman family.

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    1. Anonymous7:21 AM

      Amen!

      I am repulsed by Robert and his remarks. Actually think he is worse than George.

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    2. Sally in MI7:39 AM

      They know they are wrong. They know they are living with a killer. And they could care less about the victims of George's crimes. Daddy will just get him off, and demonizing the victim makes them less than human..just what the military does to turn recruits into killers as well.

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    3. Maple8:47 AM

      There's a fair amount of info on various sites about rampant racism in that family, starting with their mother.

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    4. Anonymous9:02 AM

      I know. I just heard he'll be on Greta tonight. It's repulsive. This guy is all of a sudden some hero who puts on this act of concerned pious victimized family member. He's cashing in and loves the celebrity.

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    5. Anonymous10:30 AM

      His brother went on CNN to put out the fire and to gain and make some money. He's a piece of shit. He might sound good but he is working the money by being on these networks and giving his opinion. He's nothing but a spokesperson for his brother making money.

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    6. Anonymous10:36 AM

      He's going to get a Fox News gig coming October.
      http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=10149

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    7. Anonymous11:53 AM

      That last bit is satire

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  3. Anonymous7:13 AM

    Powerful article:

    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/The_End_Of_The_Daily_Trayvon

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    1. Sharon8:02 AM

      Thank you for the link...I read Pierce often and damn if he didn't hit the nail on the head. This is a must read as it sums up what I, and most of us really feel actually happened and why. The comment section is worth the read too...just how Obama has been treated all these years just proves the point. The comment about if people were reversed and Trayvon shot Zimmerman, the police would have shot him dead, no prison, no trial....just dead.

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    2. Anonymous9:35 AM

      Another one: http://redyankeepress.blogspot.com/2012/05/zimmerman-gets-little-help-from-cracker.html

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  4. Anonymous7:22 AM

    George and his wife are hiding out at the all-you-can-eat desert bar at Golden Corral.

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    1. Anonymous9:00 AM

      Or first in line at the new Twinkie factory.

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    2. Anonymous9:51 AM

      I thought I saw them go in the side door at The Lady & Sons.

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    3. eclecticsandra10:49 AM

      Eating disorders are not funny.

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    4. Anonymous11:26 AM

      I agree it's not nice to make fun of the Zimmermans for being overweight (there are other reasons to make fun of them). But eating too much does not necessarily constitute an actual eating disorder.

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    5. Anonymous11:38 AM

      Eating disorders are exploited by people like Paula Deen. Her whole schickt needs to be exposed. That won't cure someone like Zimmerman, but he is free to be healthier or not.

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    6. Anonymous3:09 PM

      I don't know if he has an eating disorder, but guilty or not, the guy's been under a LOT of stress lately. Eating and weight gain is often the result.

      I don't have a TV, so miss a lot visually. When they first started hyping the upcoming trial, I couldn't figure out who that guy was. He didn't look anything like the person who I remembered was suppose to go on trial.

      Also, I agree this issue is too important to risk losing the real message to petty comments about weight.

      (Unlike Sarah and family who have chosen to be part of the "glamorous" Hollywood industry where looks and weight ARE a real issue.)

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  5. Anonymous7:37 AM

    We had guests this weekend and I was so busy enjoying them that I did not hear the tragic outcome of this trial until this morning. We really had a great time with our 17-year old grandson, time that Trayvon Martin's parents and grandparents are deprived of this summer and in all future summers by a lunatic with a gun. One who is now free to go stalking another African American teenager. Maybe he'll serve some time in prison if he murders again. But, then again, maybe he won't - after all, this happened in the South. (Well, I now have an iron-clad reason for never visiting Florida. I had lots of reasons before but this one trumps them all.)

    When Trayvon was first murdered (and it was really "murder" as far as I'm concerned), his photo reminded me so much of our grandson. Trayvon was everyone's teenaged grandson, no matter the race or ethnic background - sauntering home with iced tea and a treat for his little brother. Our grandson is likely to do the same thing. We should all share the outrage of his family over this extreme travesty of justice.
    Beaglemom

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  6. Sharon7:41 AM

    The lawyers keep discussing how the Fla law made it impossible to convict,well this is a perfect time to bomb the NRA. ALEC came up with this "stand your ground law" and was enacted in dozens of states, as they often are. The NRA funded that trial with the high priced lawyers...this is a perfect time to highlight the real mission of these assholes. Fla voters need to wake the f___ up and get rid of that criminal governor Scott!
    It is so unbearable to think of this child being scared to death by this stalker, he had every right to defend himself. Zimmerman is nothing more than a bully coward allowed to carry a gun, such a disgrace...even not being charged for 6 weeks due to that police force. I am so looking forward to the civil trial (where that coward will be forced to testify) and let the NRA pay millions to the Martin family. I really hope the DOJ files a federal suit...that bastard is going to lose that disgusting smile, if no one shoots him by then. May he rot in hell with his precious gun.

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    1. Anonymous9:26 AM

      It's interesting to think that if anyone had a right "to stand his ground," it was Trayvon Martin who was being followed aggressively by a man with a gun, although I am sure that the boy did absolutely nothing to scare Zimmerman so much (if he did anything at all) that his only recourse was to commit murder. Have we as a nation not evolved at all? That Zimmerman is a free man is simply wrong.
      Beaglemom

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    2. Anonymous10:11 AM

      I’m with you Beaglemom.

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  7. Anonymous8:03 AM

    Sounds like the jury need investigating.

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    1. Anonymous9:39 AM

      The jury of six (??!!!) women consisted of all lawyers or lawyer-associated women. I still can't wrap my head around that fact, that the prosecution went along with this. Lawyers by definition split hairs.

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    2. Anonymous10:09 AM

      The legal system in Florida will get reamed.

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  8. Anonymous8:14 AM

    Waiting for Omera to say George spent Sunday carving a notch into the handle of his 9mm.

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    1. Anonymous9:28 AM

      Huh?

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    2. Anonymous4:58 PM

      9:28 AM I think they mean the Zimmerman attorney. Z gets his gun back, next like the old west notch attitude.

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  9. Anonymous8:19 AM

    I'm surprised that the wife of an attorney was even selected to be on a jury, especially for a high profile trial like this one.

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    1. Anonymous9:01 AM

      they truly didn't have much of a pool to choose from. One juror selected claimed that the polite protests before the trial were actually riots. Super ignorant, but apparently all that was available.

      As someone pointed out, it was a jury of Paula Deens.

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  10. Anonymous8:24 AM

    Rumor has it that Zimmerman Sr. sent both Georgie and brother to Peru for their safety. He'll have to buy a new gun.

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  11. Anonymous8:37 AM

    from the link in the OP:

    Possible titles:

    Jury Duty for Fun and Profit
    Me and George Zimmerman: The Quick and the Dead
    It's Been a Year—The Body's Cold Now, Right?

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    1. Anonymous9:27 AM

      She was prep before she sat down...all of this stinks...and a lawyer husband to booth. Bet he knows O'Mara. Investigate the jury!

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  12. Anonymous8:50 AM

    Wow. People cashing in on the murder of a boy. Disgusting.

    Not having lived in a U.S. city with a significant African-American population, I was never able to see with my eyes and sense the racial divides. But upon reading and hearing, I tried to imagine how the AA community must have endured the pain of segregation and the pain of not feeling like equals to white men. It's not comprehensible from where I live.

    I grew up where we were taught that every human being is wonderfully made in the image of God. Every race has unique strengths and beauty and have so much to give to the world. But hey, I was naive to think that 'racism' in this day and age was a thing of the past. I can't simplify things and know there are complexities. But that ugly hate that has unleashed it's ugly head since the election of an AA President and this public Zimmerman trial is beyond anything I've seen so far. Of course, I have a limited understanding, not being in the center of things.

    But, the ugly rhetoric and commentary of the unleashed bigots and racists lately on every medium is more sometimes that I can take. It is nauseous.

    And, it's not bad enough that the nation mourns for a boy who was shot point blank in the heart on his way home, but now a juror is going to profit from it. Soon we'll hear that this story will be made into a movie, there'll be books by the 3 Zimmerman men, and lucrative offers for them to do the speaking circuit.

    What kind of society do we live in where the victims have their lives taken away, but the perpetrators can get rich off of it too? It's more than easy to understand how the AA community feels and how Trayvon's parents must feel. Not just to lose their precious son, but to have to endure watching his murderers get rich while dancing on his grave.

    I can understand why any African-American family is scared, painfully hurt, and they've had to endure this treatment for decades, centuries. I raise my cup to them and to all minorities who've been virtually hated and still can endure with patience. It's a travesty that I'm watching and all I want to do is weep for the African-American community today.

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    1. Anonymous9:44 AM

      "What kind of society do we live in where the victims have their lives taken away, but the perpetrators can get rich off of it too?"

      ... It is the same society, where the elected officials take away women's rights, take food out of hungry babies' mouths (they just approved the farm bill which has food stamps ELIMINATED - food stamps that help mostly children and seniors).
      It is the society where the rich influence the poor to think that it is in the poors' best interest to vote against their own best interests.

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  13. Anonymous9:09 AM

    George Zimmerman needs to own/carry a gun because he feels that it enhances his penis size.

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  14. Anonymous9:29 AM

    I still don't get why the prosecution agreed to have five or six LAWYERS or law-office-affiliated jurors. Lawyers are paid to split hairs, and this jury definitely did split hairs (and our nation...)

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  15. Anonymous9:44 AM

    Here's B37 during jury selection. She sure sounded eager to be on the jury. Her lawyer husband probably started prepping his pitch for a book before she was even selected.

    Zimmerman loved her...probably because she used the word 'riots' and 'rioting' several times to describe the protests calling for him to be charged in Trayvon's death.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUETRAk6-Gc

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    1. Anonymous11:36 AM

      Too bad we can't see her face.

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  16. Anonymous9:50 AM

    Some fool over on Palin's fb page wrote: "Zimmerman's free but we're not." ???

    It's beyond the ken of human understanding.

    Another simpleton said that Saint Sarah should run for Speaker of the House.

    Yet another repeats the false allegation that Ms. Palin had had more executive experience in 2008 than McCain, Obama and Biden PUT TOGETHER. It would be a waste of breath to describe to them just what executive skills these three gentlemen used, in the Armed Forces and in the U.S. Senate.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Sarah Palin a co-governor, with her husband? Then they were out of there like flies in a pig sty. No more executive experience for the past four years, Sarah.
    While Sen. McCain has continued to run his Washington and Arizona offices, before which he'd been an officer in the Navy. Barack Obama now has been the President of the United States for four + years, and Joe Biden has been Vice President, and presided over the Senate when it was necessary to do so.

    I'd love to know exactly what kind of "executive experience" SP had as a very small town mayor, and then as part-time governor of a tiny (in population) state?
    I guess all this will be made clear when she runs for office --
    Senator, or President, or Speaker of the House, or, heck, queen of the world.

    We're all ears, Sarah. Time to dust off your campaign allegations and show us the facts. No slip-sliding this time around.

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  17. Anonymous10:05 AM

    Sarah Palin had so little “executive experience” it was laughable while on the 2008 campaign trail when she described herself as a CEO.
    She is beyond the pale egotistical and is only attached to the realities around her by a shoestring. The pole dance she is performing now is short-lived at best. She will never put herself in the position of being questioned by anyone she doesn’t trust entirely. And since her ability to trust includes a very few people in her small world, don’t count on a Senate run.

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  18. Anonymous10:17 AM

    Have you seen former magistrate Zimmerman's ebook?

    Florida vs. Zimmerman: Uncovering the Malicious Prosecution of My Son, by Robert Zimmerman, Sr.

    Amazon has a 'Look Inside' feature that's worth a gander. Shocker: Both George and his father had trouble with book-learnin'.
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DE19P3K#reader_B00DE19P3K

    And an interesting book review with information about George and the family that I hadn't heard:
    http://www.amazon.com/review/R3LIKACZKAQCQF/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00DE19P3K&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=#wasThisHelpful

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  19. Zimmerman is going to be his own worst enemy. He's going to overreact to somrthing and end up all over the news again. It's just a matter of time for that zero of a human being. I'm waiting now for the eventual Rolling Stone or Vanity Fair expose that is bound to come now.

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    1. Anonymous11:40 AM

      I agree. He is the same Zimmerman.

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    2. Anonymous1:12 PM

      He will continue to want to be a hero and is so delusional, where ever he ends up living, will probably want to join the neighborhood watch. I feel sorry for any police department that has George Zimmerman in their jurisdiction. They're in for a lot of calls from him about suspicious activity.

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    3. Anonymous2:28 PM

      I think he'll be even worse now that the state of Florida has effectively given him license to track down and murder anyone he thinks might looks suspicious without fear of punishment.

      Think of a small child who gets away with breaking the rules but has no consequences. Will he stop breaking the rules or push them just a little bit farther?

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  20. Anonymous10:47 AM

    The photo of Zimmerman above of him looking up and smiling reminds me of the "Brady Bunch" intro with the family members in squares looking up and down. I see Mr. and Mrs. Z and the brother and wife and O'Meara and West all lovingly looking at each other as they rub their hands and thinking about how the payoff from George's vigilantiism will make them rich. Gag!

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  21. Anonymous12:40 PM

    Sad to say... Sarah Palin2 Signs Stand Your Ground Into Law At Shooting Range
    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/06/21/2196781/alaska-governor-signs-stand-your-ground-into-law-at-shooting-range/

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  22. Sgt Beldar J Conehead, Citizen's Watch Commander, ret.12:41 PM

    (he can sell that gun for big bucks as a collector's item to some sick fuck who wants a weapon with fresh blood on it.

    My heart isnt in this but here's my fake, cynical BJC response to this case, nevertheless...)
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    Gryphen, it's soooooo typical....

    You libruls are blowing this all out of proportion.

    Sure, while fearing for his life and carrying a 9mm semi-automatic pistol loaded with high-powered rounds, GZ followed, confronted and then killed an innocent unarmed black teenager, but let's not over-react.

    Remember, Florida law says if you're armed and afraid when encountering another person, you're not only permitted to kill them, you're almost obligated as a good citizen to kill them!

    The simple answer is just for all young black men to be extremely careful and avoid eye-contact when encountering Mr. Zimmerman. That's all. Case closed. Problem solved.

    Ok, some middle aged black men and a few old black men should probably be cautious, too.

    In fact, black women of any age, dark skinned hispanics, people of east indian descent, people who appear to be Samoan, Arabic, Jewish, or southern Italian, probably should give Mr. Z a wide berth, too.

    Ok. I'll be honest with you.

    This guy was acquitted of second-degree murder but his trial for being an itchy-trigger-fingered, angry dude with a chip on his shoulder - both shoulders - has yet to begin, so I'm gonna recommend EVERYONE, regardless of your age, gender, ethnicity or dermal hue, avoid all contact with this dude.

    No good can come from any interaction with him. Sadly, this isn't likely to be his last 'incident'

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    1. Anonymous3:06 PM

      it wasn't his first either - he was fired for discriminating against a muslim worker

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  23. Anonymous2:31 PM

    The National Sheriff's Association released a statement regarding the Zimmerman trial back in March of last year. I had never seen this before.

    “The alleged participant ignored everything the Neighborhood Watch Program stands for and it resulted in a young man losing his life."

    http://www.lawofficer.com/article/news/national-sheriff-s-association-0

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  24. Anonymous2:59 PM

    This quote is from the article Gryphen linked to.

    "The reader will also learn why the jurors had no option but to find Zimmerman Not Guilty due to the manner in which he was charged and the content of the jury instructions."

    It sounds like they may have wanted to convict him but couldn't if they followed the instructions, etc.

    I've been on juries where you have to remember the decision must be done by the "rules" and the prosecutor could have gotten a conviction if "the rules of deliberation" or the charge had been just slightly different.

    Doesn't help Treyvon or his family.

    Here's another thought that has me thinking really hard since I saw the photo.

    If you google Treyvon death photo, you'll likely get it, but be warned it's a toughie.

    I saw it while reading something else and clicked on it and there was poor Treyvon's dead body with his eyes open.

    I was struck by how young and clean cut he was. From all the "talk" about his appearance and the hoodie you get the impression he was a "gangsta". Not so at all.

    Why would a security guy, stop a nice looking, clean cut kid like Treyvon who was just walking home from the corner store?

    And the bigger question for me. Why would I assume since we are talking about hoodies and an Afro-American, did I assume he'd be a grubby street kid?

    A hoodie does not a BAD GUY make.

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    1. Anonymous5:04 PM

      Wasn't it misty or raining? Who wouldn't be covered up? That is popular casual attire. It is just nuts and blatantly racist and/or ageist.

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    2. Anonymous5:09 PM

      I sat on a jury for a case where a group of teens had been arrested for tossing garbage cans into the street and causing a disturbance late at night. They also had a conflict with an off-duty cop who was walking his dog at the time.

      Although we all agreed that the teens had committed SOME crime, they had not committed the crime they had ultimately been charged with, and our verdict was Not Guilty. The judge apparently agreed with us because, in his instructions, he emphasized the specific requirements of that charge and sternly reminded us that we could ONLY consider whether or not they had committed THAT particular offense. If they had been charged with the correct crime, we would have found them guilty.

      In our case, too, the prosecution was incompetent and made many mistakes.

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    3. Anonymous7:34 PM

      prosecution was incompetent


      That makes me question the whole Fld. justice system. Was it just incompetence?

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  25. Anne In DC3:02 PM

    I am so thoroughly disgusted with George Zimmerman, his attorneys, his family, and his rabid defenders that it sickens me. Learning that one of the jurors, who I thought were trying to stay out of the limelight, is trying to cash in is even more sickening. The hard right has made living in this country precarious for so many, and has brought shame upon us with its support of an admitted murderer and its vilification of his victim. I hope that he is charged at the federal level, tried, convicted, and sent to jail for a long time. He needs to have his gun confiscated permanently because he is not a responsible gun owner or anything else.

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  26. Anonymous10:01 PM

    HOORAY! Good update: http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/zimmerman-juror-decides-not-to-write-a-book

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