Wednesday, July 10, 2013

Two groups, with differing views, buy ads to educate the public about religion and the Founding Fathers. Can you say censorship?

Courtesy of The Friendly Atheist:

Last week, the Christian chain Hobby Lobby ran an ad in dozens of newspapers proclaiming the Christian heritage of our country, with “godly” quotations from the Founding Fathers, the Supreme Court, and Congress.

Here it is:

In response, the Freedom From Religion Foundation paid for several full-page ads of their own, celebrating our “godless Constitution” and how our Founding Fathers actually supported separation of church and state. FFRF said it was the “single most expensive ad campaign in our history.”

Everything was cool and a number of papers printed the ad without issue.

Guess which one The Oklahoman, refused to print.

No fair peeking.

Apparently when you run a paper dedicated to informing the populace, there are SOME tidbits of truthful information that you dare not share.


  1. Elsie2:58 AM

    Speaking of newspapers, I sent you a link to a statement printed in the Austin, TX newspaper yesterday. That's where the state capitol sits and where the Godawful Old Pricks are now meeting to pass some of the most restrictive anti-abortion, anti-choice, anti-woman laws in the country. The statement addresses the grave concerns of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists as the Texas legislators decide to play doctor (and god) with women's lives by passing laws based on political ideology, NOT on any proven medical science.

    1. Sally in MI5:50 AM

      I saw that..they have sent information to a bunch of Governors, none of whom, unfortuantely, read anything but their ALEC and Koch marching orders. But it was good to see the medical profession fighting for truth.

  2. Anonymous4:59 AM

    Let them do their worst -- every double, tripling down on all their wars will show the COP to be "Christian" terrorists, mean and evil. Surely the Republican politicians will be shown the door come election time. If a civil war doesn't start before that...

  3. Leland5:39 AM

    I can promise you that no matter how much factual information we use to counter their ignorant and stupid statements, NOTHING will change for them.

    They will remain the stupid, fixated, IGNORANT assholes they are now, because they will refuse to learn.

    We can only hope that we may hold them off long enough for this generation of christian terrorists - who want nothing less than a christian theocracy - to die off until the next wave of stupidity hits. Fortunately, I see fewer and fewer "true believers" in the young.

    Think we can hold on?

  4. Sally in MI5:48 AM

    There goes that liberal media again, trying to shut down freedom of speech...oh, wait.

  5. There is one fallacy in this whole "the Founding Fathers were evangalicals" issue that not too many people mention.

    The Religious Right seems to think that the FF were Christian. Therefore, we must be Christian.

    But if we are limited to the beliefs of the FF, then are we really free?

    1. Leland6:40 AM

      There you go again, Freethought! Confusing those poor bastards with LOGIC!

      They seem to get thoroughly lost enough when you say to them:

      A fish swims.
      A man swims.
      Therefore a man is a fish!

      They actually get lost with that. Why? 'Cause it makes them stop and think! And that HURTS their wittle bwains. Aw. Poor babies.

    2. Boscoe7:45 AM

      Actually, the "one fallacy" is that it is well documented that the Founding Fathers represented a wide variety of beliefs, not only Christian. Which is WHY none of our founding documents specify exactly who or what "the creator" actually is. Christians automatically assume it *clearly must* be Jesus, because they are imbeciles.

      The Founders worded that stuff very, very carefully so as not to promote any one belief above another. They were smart like that. :)

    3. Leland10:43 AM

      Boscoe, I will say to you what I said to Freethought.

      U r hoitink dere wittle bwains wit intewigent finking!

      If, however, you REALLY want to screw their brains, offer them two books: The Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist Papers!

      Of course, you will probably have to explain to them what "Federalist" means....

      As for whether or not they will ever learn? Probably not. Heck, they don't even recognize and/or accept the Supreme Court decisions on religion and government that have been made in the past.

      In their wittle bwains since they don't agree with those decisions, they don't exist.

    4. Anonymous10:58 AM

      Obviously, not carefully or smart ENOUGH. Not that the dumbing down of intelligence down the centuries was so easily foreseen...
      or the brainwashing effects of "repeated lies = truths" -- the FF must be spinning...and smashing hands to foreheads in disbelief
      at the stupidity and backwardness of the conservative/fundamentalist/Christian terrorists.

      I am.

  6. Saw the Godless one in the LA Times when I was there. Thanks for the backstory.

  7. Read books, lots of books, books about everything, fresh new books from Barnes and Noble and Amazon, sterile books on your Nook and your Kindle, and hard books from your local library and paperback exchange, whose pages smell wonderful.

    If you seek information from blogs and you lack a truly literate compass, you're lost. Anything can appear on a blog, and there are countless morons who will go on to quote crap as if it has authority.

    Hard publication carries infinitely more weight. We lovers of the written word are equally blessed and cursed by the intertubes.

    Pax et bonum


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