Saturday, September 21, 2013

Scientists speak out in effort to keep Texas from becoming a national embarrassment due to Creationist science books. Yeah I think that ship has already sailed.

Courtesy of Alternet: 

Dozens of scientists spoke out against creationist biology textbooks at the Texas State Board of Education's public hearing in Austin, pleading for the state not to continue its anti-science stance. 

“I ask you not to let Texas once again become a national embarrassment,” said Ron Wetheringon, Anthropology professor at Southern Methodist University. 

Most of the debate centered on evolution coverage in high school biology books and whether students should be able to question Charles Darwin’s basic biology theories, Dallas News reported. Social and religious conservatives on the board have fought for years for textbooks which teach all sides of evolution, watering down evolutionary science to make room for creationism – many even questioning the validity of teaching climate change. 

Former board chair and Youth Earth Creationist Don McLeroy, said it was important to support biblical teachings in whatever decision they make. “What we see in the world around us supports what the Bible says but what we see in these books supports what the Bible says too,” he said. 

On the other hand, scientists who reviewed the textbooks couldn’t disagree more, arguing that education official should not be using books that question evolution. The hearing prompted public rallies which included 200 or so activists holding signs with messages including, “Public schools, not Sunday schools.”

While I totally support the attempt to rescue the state's reputation and keep it from being identified as a "national embarrassment," I kind of think Texas should have thought about that before electing this guy.

However since many of these Texas textbooks find their way into public schools all around the nation I certainly hope that SOMEBODY listens to these scientists and make the decision to keep religion out of the public schools and more science in them.

If that does not happen, and they are allowed to dumb down the younger generation, we can expect more idiots like Rick Perry to be elected to public office.

14 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:21 AM

    These pix make it crystal clear: the opponents of science education are the ones who sat in the back of the class and doodled, getting a C grade if they were lucky.
    The smart students who studied and paid attention and, therefore, understand what science is all about and how important it is to us all are the ones who want students to continue to be opened to new ideas.

    There's no disconnect between "God said it was so," and 'God made us as perfect beings, and gave us the intelligence to explore his universe to the greatest extent that we can."

    Only the stupids who are afraid of what scientists might find -- or that they won't understand it, or can't make money from it -- are insisting that education be narrow and dogmatic.

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    1. I have always gotten a kick out of that photo of pRick and his dishy boyfriend. Is it, perhaps, a sexual allegory? -:)

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  2. Anonymous4:55 AM

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    1. Anonymous5:58 AM

      FASCINATING! Looks like Gryphen's theory holds up.

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  3. Anonymous5:04 AM

    I'll agree to let them add Christian ideas to science classes in public schools on the day they let me add science to their church services.

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    1. Leland5:55 AM

      Sorry, but I would NEVER agree to allow crap like creationism in public schools!

      First, teaching garbage as potential factual occurrences only confuses young minds. (That is, of course, exactly what they want.)

      Second, it is a direct violation of the Constitution's First Amendment as we all know. (Well, those of us against it know, anyway. The people trying to force the issue are too stupid to understand that.)

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    2. Boscoe7:22 AM

      I think there's a point there though. Maybe if the rest of us rose up and started demanding a law forcing science to be given equal treatment in churches, the creationists would shut the fuck up.

      What's interesting to me is that you never hear these people whining about history books not including the flood...

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  4. Anonymous5:09 AM

    What could possibly be more embarrassing than having Rick Perry as Governor.......?

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    1. Anonymous5:28 AM

      What could possibly be more embarrassing than having Rick Perry as Governor.......?
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      Having Rick Scott as Gov is at least a tie.

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    2. Leland5:40 AM

      You just KNEW this had to come from your question: Having Sarah Palin RE-elected!

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  5. Anonymous6:31 AM

    Have gov Parnell in Alaska! Friend of Palin!!!

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  6. Anonymous7:30 AM

    Also too: that fake Texas cowboy from the Ivy League.

    "Back when he was governor of Texas, George W. Bush was reading The Very Hungry Caterpillar to schoolchildren. When he read the book to Mrs. Cruz’s first-grade class at Jollyville Elementary School in Round Rock, Texas, it was far from his first performance."

    https://www.google.com/search?q=jollyville+george+bush+hungry+caterpillar&client=firefox-a&hs=EFl&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=_Lk9Ur78NsS-2AWmloCwCw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1001&bih=608&dpr=1#facrc=_&imgrc=V-Tz_qz8tbG8VM%3A%3BG1v4ZPgM663xnM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.sptimes.com%252FNews%252F082301%252Fphotos%252Fflo-bush2.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.sptimes.com%252FNews%252F082301%252FFloridian%252FMaybe_it_s_fear_of_fl.shtml%3B345%3B227

    Then he progressed to putting food on our heads and reading The Pet Goat as The Decider of the United States.

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  7. Anonymous8:12 AM

    For argument sake, say a God created the universe and therefore Earth trillions of years ago, what did he do after he created it?

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  8. Anonymous8:22 AM

    Christians, Can We Drop This 'Creationism' Thing Already?

    Earlier this week, the Texas Board of Education held a public hearing about the choice and use of textbooks in the classroom.

    Boring stuff, right? Riveting for textbook publishers and educators, maybe, but for most Americans and even Texpats like me, this isn't news.

    It became news, of course, because the hearing resulted in a clash between proponents of evolution and young-earth creationists. Scientists argued to keep the same curriculum. A hodgepodge of Christians and Republicans demanded biology textbooks that taught a biblical creation perspective. And so CNN and every political blog in the country brandished photos and quotes from politicians, presenting the event as a real affront to education.

    Whether or not anything comes of this, whether or not we're just witnessing the last creationists in their death throes, I'm tired. This fight is old, older than the 1925 Scopes Trial. As a Christian and a Texan, I grew up on the front-line of the battle, and I'm ready for Christians to throw in their figurative guns (but literal too, while we're at it) and surrender.

    I say this as a person who takes his faith very seriously. Homeschooled till sixth grade, a graduate of a private Christian high school, I grew up among young-earth creationists. I'll go ahead and confess that I was a young-earth creationist until college -- which isn't when I abandoned God and began worshipping Darwin. It's just when I realized how little evolution affected my faith.

    I'm tempted to say here that evolution doesn't affect my faith at all. The mechanics of how life began and multiplied don't alter my belief in God or view of God's role in my life. If humans came about gradually through evolution or 6,000 years ago with a divine finger snap [Is that the assumption, creationists? Real question. The verses are a little hazy.], it doesn't change the fact that I'm alive now; it doesn't take away any existential angst.

    But I need to admit that origins do affect my faith and my understanding of God -- or misunderstanding, as it usually is. I believe in a God beyond the comprehension of the human mind, a divine presence immanent and active in this universe, operating within its laws, or perhaps even being its laws.

    Evolution is a beautiful concept to me. Precious, single-cellular life originates on a harsh planet, persists against every elemental odd and procreates over billions of years into billions of distinct life forms, culminating in our present age. If this process reflects God, or is God as I've heard sometimes, I would say it reveals a patient, attentive and creative genius -- if "genius" didn't sound woefully inadequate to describe the divine. I would also say it reveals a much more complex and wonderful God than a literal reading of Genesis would allow, which was never the point of Genesis to begin with.

    more..

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-mcfarlane/christians-can-we-drop-th_b_3952117.html

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