Courtesy of Raw Story:
During an appearance on Fox & Friends, Stossel asserted to host Steve Doocy that President Barack Obama’s health care reform law “just kills the market” by mandating that women can no longer be charged more than men for insurance.
“The competition of the market is the only thing that makes things better,” he explained. “Yesterday, President Obama stood in front of a bunch of women in Massachusetts and said, ‘No longer will those evil insurance companies be able to charge you women more.’”
“Women go to the doctor much more often than men! Maybe they’re smarter or maybe they’re hypochondriacs,” Stossel continued. “They live longer. Who knows? But if it’s insurance, you ought to be able to charge people who use the services more, more.”
“But, John, you’re not paying attention,” Doocy said sarcastically. “This administration, this president wants to make everything fair. It’s not fair if you pay less than she does… And as a number of Republicans have made the argument, why should I pay for — I’m in my 60s, why should I pay for your maternity coverage?”
“Or why should women pay for men’s Viagra?” Stossel asked. “This mandating all this stuff it has to cover just takes away consumer choice.”
The idea is that everybody''s insurance will be fairly determined and that no longer will being a woman be considered a preexisting condition that could be used to hike their insurance premiums.
Damn WHO marries these idiots?
Yeah, dipshit, we live longer, which means we're healthier and yet we STILL were charged more!!!! Uh....DER....do you think that might be a little unfair?
ReplyDeleteWell, no, because he's on the golden Fox plan, so his wife's contraceptives are covered, unlike what the rest of the GOP is doing to the rest of us. I think I read where that plan has abortion coverage as well.
DeleteWomen (on average) make more trips to the doctor for several reasons. One involved *creating new life and pushing it from their bodies*. One involves having to make several trips to several doctors to convince them that their symptoms are real, not just "ladies be cray-cray" or "wandering uterus syndrome".
ReplyDeleteBetween Stossel and Geraldo, hard to say who's the bigger mysogynist.
DeletePreach it!
Delete*snaps latex glove* Time for your prostate exam, gentlemen, drop'em and assume the position!
DeleteThat's why Stossel /Geraldo/ Deucy keep going to the doctors.
Any love is good love.
Stossel? Yeah, how about a three word quote from the movie Airplane: "What an asshole!"
ReplyDeleteWhy do we pay for your Viagra? Why don't we throw up barriers to accessing Viagra all over the world? Sluts.
ReplyDeleteI mean, isn't impotence just God's way of saying "No, more sex for you." ? Who are we to question God's wisdom?
Delete/snark
And what a waste of sperm. I also have read that the fastest growing group getting STDs is middle aged men cheating on their wives with their 'covered' meds.
DeleteEh, John, whattya gonna do? Chicks! Crazy, huh?
ReplyDeleteLike they say: "Can't live with 'em... Hey, grab me a beer, babe!"
Sigh...
If only we could return to the good old days, right, John? When the chicks spent their days, pregnant, in the kitchen frying tough cuts of meat in bacon grease and the great ones did it naked, right, John? It all went down hill when they got the right to vote, right, John? Or was it when we taught them to read?
And don't get me started on the darkies, John! 'member when they knew their place, John? Those were the days, right, John? It all went down hill when they got the right to vote, right, John? Or was it when we taught them to read?
Listen, buddy, we're all dreaming of that day when everything goes back to the way it used to be in, say... in 1948 or maybe even 1848. And to prove that I put my money where my mouth is, I'm donating a shiny new Herbert Hoover commemorative fifteen cent piece to The Tea Baggers Party in order to bring that day closer to reality!
I urge everyone to donate online over at www.WeAreInsufferableDouchebags.com where our motto is "The Future Is In The Past! And We're All Douchebags, Also, Too!"
Kisses, Beldar!
DeleteWhen Stossel was on 20/20 way back when, he seemed like a smart, concerned guy. Turns out he's just a greedy, sexist Republican after all.
DeleteI used to like him on 20/20. I was so disappointed to hear what a freakin nut he is when the reins are off. I saw a program where he equated racism to not being served in a restaurant because he has a moustache. He said it was fine, he would not go to the restaurant anymore. He is a dumbass. You can shave your moustache, but it is much, much harder to change the color of your skin. To me, Libertarians are all about "me,me,me" in the guise of "freedom."
DeleteThey both miss the point. Duh. Your premiums should not be higher. But if you go to the doctor more often, you will pay more co-pays and more toward your deductible. (This is especially true if you're a hypochondriac.
ReplyDeleteDamn!
ReplyDeleteDude sure hid that tin hat pretty well on 20/20!!
Wtf?
Stossel, like Palin, used to be confused with mainstream credibility because he was a reporter with a reputable programs like GMA and 20/20 - but his libertarian views, much like Palin's, could only find purchase in Fox. They are wing-nuts and can't survive out of their bubbles.
ReplyDeleteAs for your comment on Palin's xmas book post the other day Gryphen, I have to tell you as an Alaska Native from the region North of Todd's, we don't have a problem with the term or identity of Eskimo.
It's the Northern Inuit's, whether it be Alaska, Canada or Greenland, that don't like it much.
I just don't like Sarah claiming she has some sort of affinity or association with Eskimo's to boost her over-the-top Alaskanness to sell her book. She's never liked Eskimo's and could give a shit for Todd's side of the family or whatever Native molecules that are a part of her children's make-up.
I wish everyone could just be honest about all of this health insurance business:
ReplyDeleteConservatives HATE insurance because it is inherently socialism.
Liberals LOVE insurance because it is socialism.
Yes, the very concept of insurance is "socialist" in that by pooling our money we "socialize" the cost of a misfortune happening to an individual rather than allowing it to crush them.
Because we live in a "society".
Wealthy people, such as the two millionaires in the above clip, don't like the idea of their money going into a pool where it might be used by one of those people.
Even though affording those people health care could possibly keep them from acquiring and/or spreading a disease that could directly affect the millionaires or possibly their children or someone else whom they love. (Assuming they haven't been so infected by greed that they still love other human beings...)
Because bacteria and viruses not only don't KNOW how much money you have - it matters not one tiny bit:
the wee beasties will make a millionaire just as sick and kill them just as dead as if they were destitute.
But, since millionaires come to believe that they are above the daily trials of those less fortunate I guess they also deceive themselves into believing they're above getting disease as well.
For, if they understood, they would fall all over themselves to make damned sure that those people get their asses into the doctor to make damned sure they don't have any communicable pathogens.
Because somewhere up the line, that poor person might handle their food...
Like times infinity.
DeleteBeautiful. I often respond to the morons who insist the poor kids can use the ER, that that means they won't get their shots on time, and that means your cute little Amaryllis could get measles, or mumps, or a bad case of the flu (not to mention lice) when kids do not have a primary physician.
DeleteI think that this is where the "I don't want to pay for those peoples' healthcare" folks don't understand anything about public health. Having people who are infected with communicable diseases out and about in public, and working in child care, food preparation, etc., leads to epidemics; having a lot of money does not stop you from getting sick. Those greedy folks are very short-sighted.
DeleteYou're absolutely right. Remember in the early 80's, when AIDS was first starting to appear? Those people you describe called it "gay cancer", and that allowed them to totally--and self-righteously-- ignore it.
DeleteSee what happened, fools?
...speaking of millionaires (or billionaires for that matter), they are all about privatizing profits and socializing losses. (See Great Depression and/or Great Recession). But when Main Street looks at equalizing profits and losses, they go into conniption fits!
DeleteRemember, those 'ewepeople' tend to work in jobs where they have contact with a large swath of the public, including those real Amurrikans who have all the money.
DeleteYou never know when the next waitress, busboy, bellhop, cashier, parking lot attendant, etc may have something you rich folks do NOT want to catch! Keeping them healthy is a VERY good thing!
This particular pathogen of billionaire ignorance/indifference doesn't effect ALL billionaires. Some do a lot of philanthropic work and put their good fortune and talent to work for the betterment of society. And I don't mean just the famous ones like Gates and Oprah. I know a lot of "giving" is done for tax reasons, I had a boss who was extremely wealthy, and he lived a modest life while doing a lot of work for the less fortunate with little or no credit expected. I've got to believe there's others like him who "get it".
DeleteThese Trumpish assclowns get all the air time.
Is Stossel for real? He seems to be saying that if you use 25 gallons of gas per week you should pay more at the pump than someone who uses 15. I don't know how he got out of second grade.
ReplyDeleteHey, that's a really good idea! And frankly, those that insist on driving monster trucks that get 7MPG and take up three parking spaces at the grocery store, and block my view when I'm trying to pull out? Tax the heck out of them too!
DeleteI hope his insurances covers his obvious brain injury.
ReplyDeleteSorry, the coverages don't cover pre-existing condition: brain deficiency
DeleteStossel gives me the creeps. I could never pin him down on what makes him so creepy, but he could be Ann Coulter's twin. Not that they look alike, but they talk and act alike; just dripping with super-egos and a condescending tone to others.
ReplyDeleteDoocy and the whole lot on Fox, it seems, never had a need. Lucky for them they live in a bubble of sunny skies and pretty butterflies. Have they ever been sick? Really sick? Or chronically impaired, or struggle through pain and disability? These are the kind that can't put themselves in other people's shoes. They sit there like high and mighty lords, complaining that their taxes (from their unequal pay grades, compared to the rest of society) might pay for a woman's maternity costs?
I can't listen to these two in the same room, or to one of them alone. Where are the aspirin?
You would think that they were all born with silver spoons in their mouths and servants to gently blot their baby drool.
DeleteMany of them were likely born into middle class families (or lower income families, even) and have just conveniently forgotten what it's like to be part of the 99%.
That's one of the things I appreciate most about our President. He never forgets where he came from and what it was like to struggle to achieve success despite the many challenges he faced on his way to the White House.
When Stossel was on network news, he did a story about beach erosion in California, showing a huge high quality mansion type beach front neighborhood. He was boasting how the government keeps paying them huge subsidies to rebuild these mansions every couple of years instead of changing the zoning laws.... then he gave a "tour" of HIS OWN BEACHFRONT HOUSE, the reasoning being "IF the Government wants to subsidize rebuilding 80 percent of my house as long as the insurance covers the other 20, why NOT take the money?" Now he's a libertarian on Fox screaming about big Government spending....
DeleteI can't see Megan Kelly or Greta Van Susteren daring to complain to the camera about this wonderful proposal in Obamacare for women. These and every other excrutiatingly high-paid Fox female hostesses or anchors all have the best coverage and even have enough in their own pockets to 'nip and tuck' themselves. They not only have great treatment options for their insides, but their outsides as well.
ReplyDeleteI think these two guys are gonna get a real dousing from this.
O/T but Gryphen, and you IMer's from Alaska might find this of interest...
ReplyDeleteThis is the sixth edition of a research project at PoliticusUSA known as Taking Back the House. You can check out the previous edition here. The purpose of this project is to analyze each Republican Congressional district in the United States and see how likely the district can go ‘Blue.’ To do this, I will take a look at the overall demographics of the district, as well as review the historical voting patterns and the record of the Congressperson representing the district. This series will run until we’ve looked at every single district in the country, which should take us right into the 2014 campaign season.
Congressional District: Alaska At-Large
U.S. Representative: Don Young
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/29/house-vol-6-don-young-alaskas-at-large-district.html
These misogynists are too clueless. They have conniptions if they have to see ads concerning woman's health issues. They scream and wave their arms around about an uncovered breast that is feeding a baby (uncovered without baby and airbrushed, that's just fine).
ReplyDeleteBut no problem with ad after ad (during the afternoon and early evening hours with small kids running around ) talking about erectile dysfunction "Mommy what's that??" and low T. And then the 30 seconds of rapid fire disclaimers about the side effects of that drug. A man who is 70lbs overweight, smokes, drinks, eats crap, has a bad heart and can barely walk down the street, wants a boner and he's gonna get one no matter what!
I've taken to keeping the TV remote at my side to be able to whip it out and hit the "mute" button or turn the channel from Jeopardy or the news so I don't have to listen (or my 9yr old) to another advertisement catering to older men's insecurities.
Stossel can take his attitude and his lip rodent and go stuff himself.
I often watch the news while I'm eating dinner and EVERY FREAKIN' NIGHT I have to see ads with men putting some kind of medicinal lotion on their hairy armpits. It is SO offensive to play those ads during typical dinner hours!
Delete"A man who is 70lbs overweight, smokes, drinks, eats crap, has a bad heart and can barely walk down the street, wants a boner and he's gonna get one no matter what!"
DeleteMeanwhile, a 14-year-old girl with debilitating migraines or a 20-year-old woman with fibroid uterine tumors or the 30-year-old married woman whose family has all the children they can support cannot get the Pill to control their conditions because then they'd be Slutty-McSlut-Sluts.
Stossel is the poster boy for everything that makes libertarianism a morally and ethically bankrupt party and philosophy.
ReplyDelete"I've got mine and that's all that matters. The rest of you can just fuck off."
Good question! Who does marry insensitive, ethically challenged and mentally incompetent men like these two?
ReplyDeleteOh yes, "hysterical" hypochondriac women who watch "Dr Welby" reruns and make an appointmient the next morning because they like putting their feet in stirrups while a doctor examines the complexities of external and internal lady parts that are prone to things men don't have to worry about.
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of woman marries these men? Gals like Lis Hasselbeck who don't have the backbone to bang their skulls together or explain things to them like a third grader (no offense to third graders, Teabaggers or Fox News Viewers.).
ANOTHER ditty from Lis's new show, complete with the wit and wisdom she's learned from years working with Barbara Walters.
Blacks and Latinos are overly protected by "stop and frisk" (Note, Jerry Rivers is of hispanic background). Watch Lis "break it down"
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/geraldo-blacks-and-latinos-are-protected-mos
fuck john stossel.
ReplyDelete+1
DeleteStossel is a dickweed.
As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others.
ReplyDeleteWe believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized.
Consequently, we defend each person's right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings. The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from government or any authoritarian power.
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