Friday, February 14, 2014

Kansas becomes the next red state to allow business and government workers to openly discriminate against gay people.

Courtesy of Slate:  

On Tuesday, the Kansas House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved a measure designed to bring anti-gay segregation—under the guise of “religious liberty”—to the already deep-red state. The bill, written out of fear that the state may soon face an Oklahoma-style gay marriage ruling, will now easily pass the Republican Senate and be signed into law by the Republican governor. The result will mark Kansas as the first state, though certainly not the last, to legalize segregation of gay and straight people in virtually every arena of life. 

If that sounds overblown, consider the bill itself. When passed, the new law will allow any individual, group, or private business to refuse to serve gay couples if “it would be contrary to their sincerely held religious beliefs.” Private employers can continue to fire gay employees on account of their sexuality. Stores may deny gay couples goods and services because they are gay. Hotels can eject gay couples or deny them entry in the first place. Businesses that provide public accommodations—movie theaters, restaurants—can turn away gay couples at the door. And if a gay couple sues for discrimination, they won’t just lose; they’ll be forced to pay their opponent’s attorney’s fees. As I’ve noted before, anti-gay businesses might as well put out signs alerting gay people that their business isn’t welcome. 

But that’s just the tip of the iceberg. In addition to barring all anti-discrimination lawsuits against private employers, the new law permits government employees to deny service to gays in the name of “religious liberty.” This is nothing new, but the sweep of Kansas’ statute is breathtaking. Any government employee is given explicit permission to discriminate against gay couples—not just county clerks and DMV employees, but literally anyone who works for the state of Kansas. If a gay couple calls the police, an officer may refuse to help them if interacting with a gay couple violates his religious principles. State hospitals can turn away gay couples at the door and deny them treatment with impunity. Gay couples can be banned from public parks, public pools, anything that operates under the aegis of the Kansas state government. 

It gets worse. The law’s advocates claim that it applies only to gay couples—but there’s no clear limiting principle in the text of the bill that would keep it from applying to gay individuals as well. A catch-all clause allows businesses and bureaucrats to discriminate against gay people so long as this discrimination is somehow “related to, or related to the celebration of, any marriage, domestic partnership, civil union or similar arrangement.” (Emphases mine.) This subtle loophole is really just a blank check to discriminate: As long as an individual believes that his service is somehow linked to a gay union of any form, he can legally refuse his services. And since anyone who denies gays service is completely shielded from any charges, no one will ever have to prove that their particular form of discrimination fell within the four corners of the law.

Interestingly enough Tuesday was also the day that Idaho introduced almost the exact same bill.

What was Tuesday, hating on homos day? I never got the memo. 

Apparently the red states are going to have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Century, just like they were dragged into the 29th Century over interracial marriages.

And of course the reason used to support this discrimination, the ONLY reason used to support this discrimination, is that the Bible says it's wrong.

Man that religion, what would we do without it?

What indeed?

37 comments:

  1. Anonymous12:13 PM

    "Gay" is the new "Black" in Kansas.

    Shameful.

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  2. Anonymous12:27 PM

    Another GOP unconstitutional law. Just a waste of tax payer money, it will be struck down.

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    1. Anonymous6:39 PM

      Update: because over 10,000 people signed a petition against this House bill, as a progressive and Kansan, I am relieved and happy to let you know that the Kansas Senate has decided not to vote on this bill referring it instead to committee considerations which often means it is dead. Unfortunately, we cannot relax because Governor Brown back will sign it if it ever gets out of committee in its current form - which we doubt- and passes the Senate. So, for now, we have stopped this insanity.

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  3. Anonymous12:28 PM

    Kansas was a free state once upon a time. We will be shopping online and across the border as much as possible and are planning to move when we retire early next year....but where oh where.

    I am not sure why a LGBT would want to spend money where their business would not be appreciated. We can only vote with our dollars.

    A straight ol' broad who has been married to the same guy for 45 years, whose marriage was never threatened by the gays.....but the hetros Y'All know what I'm talkin' about.

    RJ in Brownbackistan

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    1. Anonymous12:59 PM

      Come to Colorado!

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  4. Anonymous12:34 PM

    When i purchase anything online, I refuse to buy form these states. Will not visit or support the people.
    I suggest others do the same.

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    1. Balzafiar2:21 PM

      Then you will have to boycott Amazon also. Amazon's largest fulfillment center is located in Coffeyville, KS. Anything you buy through Amazon may be shipped from there.

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  5. Anonymous12:36 PM

    Doesn't federal law override what these states are doing? What a waste of time, effort and taxpayer's money!

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    1. angela12:46 PM

      Of course all of this homophobic hate will be struck down. They just want to prove to themselves that they are the hatefest of the midwest. This is the last throes of leg pissing fear and anger permeating through these fools.

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    2. Anonymous2:03 PM

      The Supreme Court will be addressing all these issues sooner or later. Brownback and his brownshirts will be told to stop. Making discrimination stop altogether is another thing. Wait 50 years when we have a gay President.

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    3. Anonymous3:12 PM

      Or go back 150 some years. James Buchanan.

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  6. Anonymous12:44 PM

    Horrifying! I will also boycott anything from these states.
    Proud mother of a gay son

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    1. Anonymous1:03 PM

      I truly pity any LGBT person who lives in Kansas and, for whatever reason, must remain there.

      How can anyone in the KS legislature hold their head up or look in the mirror after passing this law?

      Fortunately, it seems destined to die in the Senate.

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  7. Anonymous12:48 PM

    Putting aside the obvious illegal discrimination and truly astounding bigotry displayed by the proudly ignorant Kansas legislature, generally speaking, I would say gay folks have more taste than to live or travel in Kansas anyways.

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    1. A. J. Billings2:19 PM

      Oh, and speaking of TRULY astounding bigotry, check this brain dead lunatic out:

      Don Boy Reagan (no relation) is a preacher in East Tenessee.

      He spends 15 minutes tellin them good ole folks that "whites shouldn't be mixin with them browns and blacks, cuz Jesus wouldn't like that.

      He's a-ranting against interracial marriage and mixed race mongrel children calling the marriage “not right” and wondering why we can’t leave segregation “alone.”

      Course he's not quotin bible, he's just bloviatin' from something that a KKK assface musta wrote

      http://freakoutnation.com/2014/02/14/watch-tennessee-pastors-offensive-rant-on-colored-people-and-leaving-segregation-alone/

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    2. Balzafiar2:23 PM

      There are a lot of gay and bisexual people living in Kansas, just like there are anywhere else you might think of. Anyone who says or thinks differently just has absolutely no clue.

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    3. Anonymous3:02 PM

      Balzafiar, with all respect, I do believe dry &/or tongue-in-cheek humor is lost on you.

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  8. Anonymous12:52 PM

    This is such a fucking waste of time and taxpayer's money. This will be overturned in a heartbeat by a federal court for being unconstitutional and discriminatory. It's so vile that these biggots use their legislative positoin to foment divisiveness and hate. But it won't stand. ALEC seems to be behind this hot-off-the- presses legislation with it popping up in legislatures all over the country.

    Ellen and that's awesome guy from Texas had a chat:

    not marry a loving man, a woman cannot marry a woman, what a woman can do with her own body, the argument just drives me nuts, and it’s just the same hypocrisy that set me off with the NFL’s argument.”

    Hansen’s wife was watching in the audience, and when the spotlight turned to her for a brief moment, she made it clear this was just the best Valentine’s Day gift ever.

    Watch the video below, via The Ellen DeGeneres Show:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/tx-sports-anchor-tells-ellen-%E2%80%98it-wasn%E2%80%99t-a-brave-thing%E2%80%99-to-stand-up-for-michael-sam/

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    1. Anonymous1:13 PM

      Dale Hansen Unplugged: Celebrating our differences

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olc5C4SXAYM

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    2. Anonymous1:17 PM

      Dale Hansen shocked, stunned Michael Sam commentary went viral

      Dale Hansen doesn’t spend his time on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook. Email, he says, is his closest link to social media, though a seldom-updated Twitter account has his name on it. He says he doesn’t understand what “going viral” means.

      “I’m assuming it’s a good thing,” Hansen said over the phone Thursday afternoon from Los Angeles.

      In Hansen’s case, it has proved a very good thing.

      On Monday’s 10 p.m. newscast, the longtime WFAA-TV (Channel 8) sports anchor offered up a 428-word commentary in support of Michael Sam, the former University of Missouri defensive end who, in a prelude to the NFL draft, on Sunday declared to various national media outlets that he is gay.

      It took Hansen two minutes and 15 seconds to deliver.

      By 5 p.m. Thursday, Hansen’s “Unplugged” segment had 2.34 million views on YouTube and was front page on a slew of websites. Even conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh was talking Hansen.

      “I think Mr. Hansen has some decent points,” said Limbaugh, despite insisting he didn’t see what all the fuss was about.

      By his own count, Hansen received more than 1,000 emails from across the country and around the world. He even had 14 telephone messages, “and nobody leaves those for me anymore,” he said.

      Hansen was in Los Angeles for a taping of Ellen DeGeneres’ television show, scheduled for broadcast on Friday. Piers Morgan called to ask Hansen to be on his CNN show. When that couldn’t be arranged for Thursday night, CNN tried to book Hansen for Saturday. National Public Radio also wants him.

      On MSNBC, Lawrence O’Donnell declared Hansen the nation’s “sportscaster of the year.”

      Hansen said he has heard from newspapers around the country and Canada. A Canadian radio network and a television station in Great Britain also have expressed interest.

      “I’m shocked, I’m stunned,” said Hansen, who doesn’t blush easily.

      Hansen said he first mulled about commenting on Sam, after reading that several NFL “sources” said his declaration would hurt him in the May draft. That was Sunday night.

      He thought about it Monday, and soon after he arrived at work at 2 p.m., he began writing a script. Twenty minutes later, he called his producer, Sean Hamilton, in for a reading.

      http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/columnists/barryhorn/20140213-wfaa-s-dale-hansen-shocked-stunned-commentary-went-viral.ece

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  9. Anonymous1:00 PM

    Religion was born, and the devil danced. Is there anything that has been more hypocritical and destabilizing to the human condition than the christian bible or the koran.

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  10. Anonymous1:10 PM

    Great law in Kansas.
    Should become the law in all States.

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    1. Anonymous1:52 PM

      Would you feel the same if it was you who was denied services, housing, etc because you were unbelievably stupid?

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    2. "Anonymous1:10 PM
      Great law in Kansas.
      Should become the law in all States."
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      You only say that because you are a traitor that doesn't understand or respect the Constitution.

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  11. Anonymous1:13 PM

    They will not be dragged into the 21st century, instead states such as Kansas will become bastions of religious ignorance and intolerance and sane and rational people will move to more reasonable states. The nation will be divided into rational states and irrational states.

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    1. Anonymous3:42 PM

      Well, to be fair, Kansas has a long way to go before making it into the 21st century.

      It appears that they are firmly stuck in the 19th century and rapidly moving backwards.

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  12. Anonymous1:20 PM

    The Article Every Liberal Needs To Show a Conservative

    http://www.forwardprogressives.com/the-article-every-liberal-needs-to-show-a-conservative/

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  13. Anonymous1:22 PM

    Accidental 'I Love You' Derailed Gay Navy SEAL's Career
    Decorated Navy SEAL Brett Jones had already survived two harrowing deployments overseas when, back in the states, his world came crashing down around him, all thanks to an answering machine.

    It was the morning after a welcome back party, and Jones was calling to thank a fellow Navy serviceman who organized the bash. The man wasn't in, so Jones left him a message at his military office, and then he did something without thinking about it.

    "I said, 'I love you' before I hung up," Jones told ABC News, recounting the story by email.

    The man Jones had called was his longtime boyfriend and part of an entire life Jones had for years kept hidden from even his closest SEAL comrades and, even more importantly at the time, the Navy. This was 2002, nearly a decade before the end of Don't Ask Don't Tell, and a time when serving openly in any service as homosexual was forbidden. Jones said he had known he was gay since he was 6-years-old and had just decided to risk keeping the secret in order to serve with one of the most elite military forces in the world.

    But those three words just about did him in. He said a woman in the same office as Jones' boyfriend at the time heard the message and reported it up the Navy's chain of command.

    "That was all it took for the Navy to launch a full-scale investigation that lasted for months," Jones told ABC News.

    Jones said the military pulled his hard-earned security clearance and "treated [him] like [he] was a criminal."

    "It was one of the most difficult times of my life," Jones said. "It was so damn humiliating."


    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/accidental-love-derailed-gay-navy-seals-career/story?id=22485307

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  14. Anonymous1:33 PM

    Just how are these homophobic business owners in Kansas supposed to correctly identify who is gay or lesbian?

    I often go to dinner with female friends and, since we don't have any identifying tattoos on our foreheads that say 'straight woman', how would anyone know we weren't a couple? How would they know that my sister and I are not a couple? If some man meets a male buddy for a beer after work, do they have to somehow prove that they're straight before they will be served?

    Is the next step in Kansas requiring LGBT people to wear rainbow stars on their clothing???

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    1. Anonymous4:05 AM

      That's what I've been thinking too. How the hell will they identify who is gay or lesbian? I just imagine going out with my long-time best friend and not being served in a restaurant.....I think I'd end up arrested!
      Then I thought the same thing.......people being tagged w/ a star opn their clothing, and we all know how that worked out.
      These laws will never stand, but what a lot of hatred there is behind them. Sickening.

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  15. Anonymous2:10 PM

    The Religious Fuck You Agenda
    They are fighting for freedom, the freedom to oppress anyone different than them.

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  16. Anonymous2:26 PM

    Where in the US Constitution does it state one persons religious beliefs supercede another persons civil rights?

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  17. Anonymous3:16 PM

    I smell the noxious stench of ALEC and the Koch brothers behind this maneuver.
    M from MD

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  18. Anonymous3:21 PM

    This is so stupid, it hurts. What exactly is their logic? As I see it, homophobes can have two theories about why people are gay that could explain their negativity to it. 1. GBLT people "choose" to be gay or 2. GBLT people are mentally ill. Now the first "theory" says more about the holder of that belief (My heterosexuality has never been a choice--but apparently these people agonize over their own homosexual impulses.)
    As the second "theory"--if GBLT people are mentally ill, that's no reason to treat them badly, it should move people to want to help. Of course, the problem with this theory is that there demonstrable harm from the "illness", and thus can't be said to be an illness, and also there is no proven treatment either, so the people are left to "suffer"--so let's offer the best palliative care.

    I'm not trying to convince anyone here of anything, just pointing out even if you argue their side of things, being so hateful and hurtful about it is just inhumane.

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  19. Anita Winecooler5:16 PM

    "Gee, Toto, something tells me we're not in Kansas anymore".

    Yep, keep it up, red states with the hate against women, blacks, and the LGBT community. Kansas will become the nursing home/hospice capital of the world and then disappear from the face of the earth. Not only is discrimination wrong on so many levels, it's against "religious tenants". What happened to "love thy neighbor", "We were all born in God's image" and a wealth of one liners and wise old common sense stories?
    The old caucasians just can't keep up with the population boom by others who love and accept unconditionally. In other words, slavery of any kind is dead and not coming back anytime soon. Get used to it.

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  20. Linda5:26 PM

    This will be headed to court and be shot down as unconstitutional almost immediately. Even in Kansas. At least that's my prediction.

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  21. Anonymous7:05 PM

    It's not going to happen.
    Senate President Susan Wagle said the bill will not pass in its current form.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/14/kansas-senate-gay-bill_n_4789482.html

    Johnson County , KS is one of the most affluent counties in the country and home to many major corporations.
    It's not some backwater locale.
    Sprint is headquartered in Overland Park, KS , employing tens of thousands.
    Boeing has a major hub in Wichita. As does Bombardier-Lear Jet.
    ATT and other corporations apparently became apoplectic and issued statements saying the bill would hurt them and in some cases place them
    at odds with their own nondiscrimination policies.
    Most Senate Democrats oppose the House bill and think the issue should be left alone this session.

    "I think she made the right decision," said Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, a Topeka Democrat.
    "I don't think there is any sense in trying to beat a dead horse on this bill that basically legalizes discrimination."
    The right is always worried about a slippery slope.
    Once you legalize discrimination against one class of citizens, what's to stop
    it from snowballing against other segments of society from the handicapped to other religions and races
    in the name of " religious freedom ".
    I think if these people refuse to sell a gay couple a cake,
    they obvioulsy wouldn't give them a drink or food if they were starving.
    Love Thy Neighbor.. as long as they're straight.

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