Courtesy of Think Progress:
In newly released audio of phone calls made by Michael Dunn while in jail, the man who shot 17-year-old Jordan Davis after a loud music dispute claiming self-defense said he was both the “victor” and the “victim,” compared himself to a rape victim, and made racially charged comments about his fellow inmates.
Recordings of nine calls from December 2012 released by the State Attorney’s Office Monday follows the earlier release of letters from Dunn disparaging African Americans. In one, he said, “The more time I am exposed to these people, the more prejudiced against them I become.” A jury found Dunn guilty Saturday on several counts of attempted second degree murder for shooting ten rounds into a car full of teens, but the jury was deadlocked on the question of whether Dunn was guilty of first degree murder for shooting and killing Jordan Davis.
In a call to his fiancée Rhonda Rouer, Dunn said:
I was the one that was being preyed upon and I fought back. It’s not quite the same but it made me think of like the old TV shows and movies where like how the police used to think when a chick got raped going, “Oh, it’s her fault because of the way she dressed.” I’m like, “So it’s my fault (laughing) because I asked them to turn their music down. I got attacked and I fought back because I didn’t want to be a victim and now I’m in trouble. I refused to be a victim and now I’m incarcerated.”
Dunn doesn’t explain how he was “attacked.” The shooting occurred after Dunn pulled up in a Jacksonville convenience store next to a sport utility vehicle with several teen boys. Tension erupted after he asked the boys to turn down their music. Dunn says he shot into the vehicle in self-defense because Davis threatened to kill him from within his vehicle and held up a gun, but no gun was found anywhere at the scene.
“I’m the f*** victim here,” he said, laughing, during one of the phone calls. “I was the one who was victimized … I’m the victor, but I was the victim too.”
So the man shoots into a car full of teenagers, none of whom apparently came out of the car to threaten him in any way, and HE is the victim?
Well gee if he wasn't really in fear for his life what could have been the motivation for shooting at the African American teens in the car?
During the call with Rouer, he also complained about being in a jail cell by himself, saying, “But I guess it would be better than being in a room with them animals.” He added a short while later, “I was in a room with three black guys,” CBS News reports.
Oh yeah, I think we understand the motivation just fine.
I'm not surprised his type would think himself the victim here. But it's very telling that he thinks of himself as the victor.
ReplyDeleteI hope he rots in jail.
He won't live long enough in jail...there is some justice, however small. He thought he would not be convicted. He probably pees his bed every night with the thought that he will be tortured by inmates. Wonder if he can stand his ground on the inside?
DeleteUnfortunately, the taxpayers of Florida will pay more to keep him in a separate area.
DeleteI watched the entire trial and this guy is an arrogant, racist ass! Once they put him with all the 'others' (as he sees them!) in prison, I'll wager he'll be beat up or killed.
ReplyDeleteWhen you keep shooting at the car as it is driving away, you are not the one under attack. Dunn and Zimmerman ought to form the Victims Club.
ReplyDeleteDon't you understand?
DeleteThe people in the car scared him.
They were the monster that lives in the 5-year-old's closet and makes him pee in the bed.
And it makes me weep.
5-year-olds with guns is tragedy.
Is that the one where VICTIM stands for Very Insecure size- Challenged, Terminally Idiotic excuse for a Man?
ReplyDeleteThere is an interview of this guy's neighbor and his wife. Both of them said it was only a matter of time before this asshole killed someone. In the interview, the man said Dunn ALWAYS had to be right. He was charming enough if you always agreed with him, but became instantly combative and aggressive if you did not. He used his size and his aggression to challenge people who didn't tow his line. It is just a small step to whipping out your penis extension and using it on someone you 1. already hate due to their race and 2. won't do what you say.
ReplyDeleteWhat I found interesting (besides the fact that this guy was a psycho waiting to kill someone) in the interview was that he picked women from other countries who he controlled because of their immigration status. What a POS Dunn is.
DeleteWe all thought Trayvon was murdered by a coward/bully with a gun....hearing that verdict was obscene. This case is so much worse, I watched the trial and will never understand how anyone with an ounce of intelligence could possibly think of Dunn being threatened. Where are the rights of those boys? We have all at one time or another had to endure a rude asshole doing something in public....you leave quickly & ignore. The attorneys should keep making the point if a gun wasn't available.....none of these murders would happen. Throwing popcorn at someone at the movies?
ReplyDeleteIt just keeps getting more ridiculous.....if you are a black teen in Fla you live in fear, is this America? Why don't we hear the NRA applauding the 2nd amendment? They should be really proud of themselves....wiping out all the "bad" guys one by one. I don't believe in hate but...Dunn is not going to last in prison, just as Zimmerman wouldn't have.
Zimmerman isn't going to last anywhere in America...someone will kill him which I think he richly deserves!
DeleteThe person shooting Zimmerman should use the Stand your Ground Defense....karma!
DeleteThe guy has no remorse, and a dead teenager just because the music was too loud. The self-satisfied grin on his face is disgusting. This guy was staying in a hotel and wasn't even a local from that area. He is one of the alarmingly increasing number of pathological narcissists of our generation.
ReplyDeleteThe music was "too loud", but not "too loud", apparently, for Dunn to hear whatever the teens were saying, or make it up, that is. Don't forget, they were parked there first, and Dunn chose to park next to them before he started harassing them for their music.
DeleteThis makes me think of the common abuser's response - the wife beater, for example, often responds, look what you made me do. You made me angry by your actions etc. The abuser/bully/murderer never ever takes any personal responsibility.
ReplyDeleteI didn't watch the entire trial but did watch a lot of it. Dunn lied repeatedly and the prosecutors didn't call him on several of the lies. His fiancee said they "waited in the Common Room for the police to come" (so why didn't they call the police?) but Dunn said "we waited for a red SUV with gangsters in it" (again, why didn't they call the police?). He also testified in the trial that he "had been practicing and preparing for a long time for just that sort of thing where his life would be threatened". He's another one of these paranoid psycho gun nuts who constantly fantasize and hope for an opportunity to kill someone.
ReplyDeleteI can't remember who said it, but the night the verdict came in, somebody said "Angela Corey may try to get Dunn to plead guilty to 2nd degree murder or manslaughter in exchange for (Corey) reducing his sentences to run concurrently rather than consecutively". Wouldn't that make him eligible for parole at some point shorter than 60 or 70 year? I don't trust Angela Corey - she's Republican and in Florida that pretty much means that she favors whites over "others". And she's incompetent.
Angela Corey is also the prosecutor who denied Marissa Alexander the Stand Yourr Ground defense when she fired warning shots while her husband was beating her. Corey is a real piece of work.
DeleteI watched a good amount of it on tru tv. The guy has this strange affect. Not exactly "flat" but he holds back laughs at the most inappropriate times and tries to look emotional, yet not one tear falls. And, yes, he spouts lie after lie with no remorse whatsoever.
DeleteI agree with Angela Corey, she's more like a PR person than a prosecutor and seems to try to make her workload as easy and light as possible.
I watched a lot of it. This guy has a strange affect, not exactly "flat", just inappropriate. He holds back laughs one second, then acts choked up and emotional at others and not one tear appears.
DeleteI agree about Angela Corey. She acts more like a PR person than a prosecutor, and relies on SYG to keep her workload as light and easy as possible.
Can they play this tape in the next phase of the trial? It shows the man has no conscience and is clearly a racist.
OT Scott Walker emails released - reminds me of Grandma Grifter.
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/02/emails-reveal-scott-walkers-personal-clown
Anyone read what this guy did for a living? Is he still engaged with his fiancee?
ReplyDeleteMaybe the rapper in the song playing in the car talked about killing you mo' fo, not the occupants.
having a gun makes people stupid, more stupid. don't need to think or communicate. Guns are made to kill. They do.
This guy was looking for an excuse to pull his gun out of his glove compartment and kill a couple black kids. Nobody threatening him, not even a rapper on the radio.
DeleteMeet the conservative religious right's new poster boy.
ReplyDeleteAint it the truth. If you dare go to any right wing websites, you'll see people making excuses for him and being way too eager to blame it on the unarmed teenagers who were doing what teenagers of every color do...listening to loud music to annoy the olds.
DeleteThese trogs are taking a "wait and see" approach, convinced that when the kids were zooming away under fire and screaming about their dying friend, they managed to hide a shotgun where nobody would find it.
The scary thing is that there is a certain segment of the population who think this guy was justified in shooting at and even killing these teenagers because they MIGHT HAVE been armed.
I think he was drunk from his son's wedding, which is why he and his fiance raced to their hotel to drink some more. That way he'd have an excuse for having alcohol in his system.
ReplyDeletePut an eye patch on him and he's the Governor from Walking Dead...
ReplyDeleteI wonder if this tape can be played at his re trial? I think the jury should hear it from his own mouth.
ReplyDeleteThey had juror four interviewed on television and she put it clear as day. *From memory) "There's two parts to this story, unfortunately the true victim can't testify because he's dead, so all we're left with are the words of the one who killed him".
OT Scott Walker Emails released - reminds me of a certain grandma.
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/02/emails-reveal-scott-walkers-personal-clown