Tuesday, April 08, 2014

Theoretical physicist, Lawrence Krauss, responds to surprising news that he participated in the making of "documentary" promoting geocentricism.

Courtesy of Slate:  

A month or so ago, and again last night, my email, Facebook, and Twitter accounts began to buzz about clips of me appearing in some purported new documentary film promoting … wait for it … geocentrism! The notion that anyone in the 21st century could take seriously the notion that the sun orbits the Earth, or that the Earth is the center of the universe, is almost unbelievable. I say almost, because one of the trials and tribulations of being a scientist with some element of popular celebrity is that I get bombarded regularly by all sorts of claims, and have become painfully aware that ideas as old as the notion that the Earth is flat never seem to die out completely. Nevertheless, even after being inured to such things, I was surprised to learn of the premise of the film, until I learned that its producer also apparently questions the Holocaust. It is tempting to say that both claims are obscene nonsense, but I believe that does a disservice to the word nonsense. 

So, the question I had to face after discovering this abuse of my words was what to do about it. I have no recollection of being interviewed for such a film, and of course had I known of its premise I would have refused. So, either the producers used clips of me that were in the public domain, or they bought them from other production companies that I may have given some rights to distribute my interviews to, or they may have interviewed me under false pretenses, in which case I probably signed some release. I simply don’t know. 

Many people have suggested I litigate. But this approach seems to me to be completely wrong because it would elevate the profile of something that shouldn’t even rise to the level of popular discussion. The best thing we can all do when faced by nonsense like that, or equivalent silliness promoted by biblical fundamentalists who claim that science supports a literal interpretation of the Bible, is to ignore it in public forums, and not shine any light on the authors of this trash. As far as this particular film is concerned, one might hope that it has high production value that cost the producers a lot of money. Then, when no one beyond the three people in the country who may somehow have missed the last 500 years of science and history during their education watches the film, we can hope that the whole misbegotten enterprise will bankrupt the production company, or at least severely cramp its style.

I have to agree with Professor Krauss here, though it might be fun to watch this idiot defend his unauthorized  use of the clips, it would also provide attention to something which does not deserve any.

However I am not sure I agree with him when it comes to his policy of ignoring those who espouse a literal interpretation of the Bible, and try to interject it into politics and education.

While I understand how distasteful it is to engage with mental midgets, there a lot of stupid people in the country who see them as visionaries or prophets.

It would certainly serve the greater good if there were always somebody ready and willing to shame these imbeciles every time they opened their slack jawed mouths.

You know, besides me of course.

As for Kate Mulgrew, the narrator of this piece of fiction, she is none to happy to have her name associated with it either:

“I am not a geocentrist, nor am I in any way a proponent of geocentrism,” Mulgrew said in her statement. “More importantly, I do not subscribe to anything Robert Sungenis has written regarding science and history and, had I known of his involvement, would most certainly have avoided this documentary. I was a voice for hire, and a misinformed one, at that.” 

You know I don't think it exactly helps to convince people that you have a point of view worth considering, when it turns out you had to manipulate stolen film footage of scientists into making it appear they agree with you, and then trick an actress into narrating your "documentary."

I'm just saying.

(P.S. Here is my earlier post about this film.)

19 comments:

  1. These idiots are exposing their un-evolved ignorance like dirty old men opening their grubby overcoats to children and old ladies -- they are sad creatures. Who will pay them any mind?

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  2. Anonymous7:11 PM

    This is outrageous. Most scientists I know would be as outraged and it is clear there are unscrupulous and ethically bankrupt people who take advantage of material already out there as Krauss explains. Maybe it is time to get together a war chest of cash to help people like Krauss squash these idiots in court. It makes me sick to see a scientist maligned and used in such a way as this. There obviously should be consequences to this terrible slander. How can we learn more about the makers of this film?

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    1. Krauss deserves it because of his arrogance and his obnoxiousness. Whenever he "debates", he talks over his debate opponent,trying to hide his own insecurities about what he does not know. He comes off as a horrible person and he even admitted as much. So no sympathy.

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  3. Anonymous7:16 PM

    >>>So stupid does disservice to word nonsense.<<<

    I'll be saving this for future use. Looking at you Lou Sarah.

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  4. Anonymous7:21 PM

    OT - but barf me a river. This showed up on FB today courtesy of her majesty, Queen Esther.

    We’re so proud that Bristol has been graduated tonight from Penrose Academy in Arizona. She’s heading back to Alaska soon (because she misses the snow, mountains, and her truck!) to continue her work at Dr. Cusack's dermatology practice. It's been a great four years with Doc; he's been an understanding and very patient boss as Bristol has enjoyed many opportunities in addition to her good employment in Anchorage at Alaska Dermatology and Laser Center.

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    1. Anonymous7:30 PM

      In other words, Bristol has been ordered back to Alaska to face the judge in Levi's custody case.


      BWAHAHAHAHA!

      Who else but Palin says "has been graduated"? Sounds more like "has been expelled."

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    2. Anonymous7:39 PM

      Isn't that convenient! There's some sort of child custody thing going on, so everyone will be close by. Levi's visits with his son won't be interfered with by Barstool's incessant reality stardom and whatnot. Also too Barstool apparently will stop trying to get nominated for the Fame Hoe Hall of Fame..

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    3. Anonymous8:39 PM

      Proud that Bristol actually completed a few classes in skin care? The Palins set the bar really, really low.

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    4. Anonymous9:02 PM

      Why would a "real" dermatologist hire someone that went to a cosmetology school? Is he a quack?
      I thought Bristol told us she has been working for the "skin" doctor since she "has been graduated" from high school.

      At least we know where Sarah has her cut rate botox done.

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    5. Anonymous9:39 PM

      She’s heading back to Alaska soon to continue her work at Dr. Cusack's dermatology practice. It's been a great four years with Doc;

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      She is trying to make it sound like bristol has a 4 yr degree: continue her work-like she is some sort of research scientist in dermatology. ha ha

      Check out some of the comments about the doctor, no wonder he hired a high school drop out.

      Likelihood of recommending Dr. Cusack to family and friends is 2.7 out of 5
      http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-michael-cusack-ynrm6/patient-ratings#TopOfMain

      patient reviews 22- rating 2.5

      http://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Michael_Cusack/reviews

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    6. Anonymous9:58 PM

      Bristol's program amounted to 600 hours, that's 3 days a week, 9 AM to 6 PM for 6 months. Sarah's facebook makes it sound as if Bristol got both a PhD and an MD at that Academy.

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    7. Anonymous3:42 AM

      Words fail me.
      Beaglemom

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  5. Anonymous8:51 PM

    He seems rather cavalier with his credentials and reputation. Ignoring them just legitimizes their myths.

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  6. Anonymous11:09 PM

    Check out these comments about Dr. Cusack. Sounds right up the Palin alley.

    http://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/109551/Dr-Michael+L.-Cusack-Anchorage-AK.html

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  7. Anonymous3:38 AM

    South Carolina third grader request for mastodon to be state fossil when the RWNJ's added amendments to add religion to her request. When it spread nationwide, they got frustrated and past it unanimously without so much religion. My point is we need to keep the sun shining on these viruses.

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  8. Anonymous3:41 AM

    How could someone, hired to "narrate" the fake documentary, not have walked out when given a copy of the script? I suspect that Ms. Mulgrew had no idea what the words she was "reading" meant or she had no idea that the "science" behind the words was quackery. Either way, she should have pulled out early on. As for Laurence Krauss, the theoretical physicist, he should make sure that he has no legal recourse and at least make a lot of public noise about the nonsensical film. And then, be more careful in the future to protect his work from this sort of piracy.
    Beaglemom

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  9. Anonymous6:21 AM

    How can he not recognize/recall when and where and for/to whom the statements he is shown giving in this piece of claptrap were delivered? Given the damage being associated with such unscientific nonsense could cause his reputation, his vague, lackadaisical response to being what he wants people to think was unethically quoted in it, while avoiding actually saying that he was, comes across as very weasely.

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  10. Anonymous7:36 AM

    Kate Mulgrew has such a distinctive, full, throaty female voice that she is in high demand for voice work. She did the voice of one of my all time favorite video game characters, Flemeth the Witch of the Wilds, in the EA Game series Dragon Age. I would like to think that Mulgrew, like Flemeth, does not suffer fools lightly. And given her sci-fi and gamer fanbase I'm sure hijacking her voice for this ridiculous film is going to gain only derision.

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  11. Anonymous9:10 AM

    Krauss definitely needs to take legal and/or very public action on this issue. Those thieves DO need attention drawn to them. Why should they be allowed to get away unscathed for their thievery? Shine the light on them and let the world know who they are and what they perpetrated.

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