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| Sarah Palin sure can pick winners can't she? |
Samuel Wurzelbacher gave his condolences this week to the families of the victims of the mass shooting near the University of California, Santa Barbara. But no tragedy is going to stop "Joe The Plumber" from defending the Second Amendment.
In an open letter published Tuesday on the website Barbwire, Wurzelbacher went out of his way to explain to the victims' parents that the deaths won't undermine his "Constitutional rights."
"I am sorry you lost your child. I myself have a son and daughter and the one thing I never want to go through, is what you are going through now," wrote Wurzelbacher, who became something of a mascot for John McCain's failed 2008 presidential campaign. "But: As harsh as this sounds – your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights."
I think that just about sums it up.
To these people who believe that the 2nd Amendment is the MOST important part of the Constitution, there is nothing that they hold more dear.
Not even the lives of our children.
And I won't kid myself that Wurzelbacher is an aberration - he speaks for the majority of the Republican party today, he's just one of the handful, like Cliven Bundy, without even the finesse to know the dog-whistle terms for the same message.
ReplyDeletethat loser should stick to something he knows best, "plumbing."
DeleteThe outrage on the right----- where is it?
DeleteYour dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights. Keep thinking that Asshole. Bible thumpers thought their religious rights trumped same sex marriage also! We know how that went! it may take 50 years, but gun rights as we see them today will disappear too
ReplyDeleteAren't these the "people" who believe in the sanctity of life?
ReplyDeleteOh wait, that is only for the fetus inside a woman's body. Once the baby is born - too bad for you little baby.
- No health care for you.
- No proper education for you.
- No decent, livable wage paying job for you.
- But we will put a lethal weapon in your hand!
The twisted logic of these "people" is beyond my comprehension.
Only sanctify embryo life. Once your are birthed you aren't worthy of anything if your parents aren't in the multi-billionaire club. Or working way up through the Republican millionaire club and they pay their dues.
DeleteWhen I saw this yesterday, I was just livid! What the hell is wrong with these people?
ReplyDeleteI repeat what I wrote in the previous posting: Unfortunately neither ignorance nor stupidity are illegal.
ReplyDeleteWhat this idiot - and apparently ALL the current gun nutters don't comprehend (or don't want to, take your pick) - is the second half of the Supreme Court decision which said the 2nd Amendment DOES pertain to the individual's right to own firearms.
In that decision, it specifically stipulated that "the right is not unlimited and does not prohibit all regulation of either firearms or similar devices."
They apparently feel the same way the religious extremists feel when faced with the eleventh clause of the Treaty of Tripoli: if I yell loud enough, they can't do anything about it!
Sorry folks, but when the majority of the people get fed up enough with all these insane murders and massacres, they will start to vote out those who can't see that and you WILL lose.
PERIOD!
Glad McCain and Palin are forever tied to this guy. Especially Palin.
ReplyDeleteThat photo should be blown up poster size, set up behind little Johnny Mac's weekly repub. propoganda appearances each Sunday. Are they shadows of - don't tell me - TELEPROMPTERS on sloppy Joe? Didn't grandma $carah mock our President for using those? Another day, another shooting. In Arizona, a 3 year old shot his 18 month old brother to death with a neighbor's gun. Has ol' Johnny EVER spoken out about gun violence, even in his own state?
DeletePerfect! Two peas in a pod.
DeleteJoe the Fake Plumber & Sarah the Fake Everything
Glad McCain and Palin are forever tied up together. Forever tied to the plumber. GLAD THEY ARE ALL TIED TO ALL REPUBLICANS.
DeleteCrazyglued for life. Poor Cindyloo doesn't even get an honorable mention.
Delete"To these people who believe that the 2nd Amendment is the MOST important part of the Constitution, there is nothing that they hold more dear.
ReplyDeleteNot even the lives of our children."
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So? They are wrong. We do not have to allow well-known constitutional lawyer Wurzelbacher (oh, wait...) define the debate.
From the Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Unalienable. Endowed by their Creator, the same Creator that they keep claiming trumps the constitution.
The Second Amendment to the Constitution on the other hand, is an amendment to the original document. That means the Constitution, a document written by men, can be changed.
For instance, like so:
"The first fucking clause of this amendment is first, gunhumpers: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." If you are not part of a well-regulated militia (i.e., the National Guard), of course your right to bear arms will be infringed. How stupid are you?"
Our unalienable right to life does in fact trump Wurzelbacher's rights to jerk off to news stories about murdered children.
People are saying that Wurzelbacher's comments are disgusting. They are also wrong.
Roast in hell, John McCain. Your other Frankenstein's monster finally outdid that braying bag of flaming dog shit, Palin. What a legacy. You must be so proud.
Too bad you don't appreciate your guaranteed rights. At least other good Americans are making sure that they are not slowly eroded away using fear simple fear tactics.
DeleteI appreciate my guaranteed rights so much that I will not allow fear-crazed irresponsible gun-humpers incapable of reading the entire second amendment take away my right to life.
DeleteYeah, the sign outside the NRA headquarters leaves out that part about "a well regulated militia" -- in fact, leaves out that entire first half ("A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State").
DeleteWishful thinking on their part, and they're doing their level best to make sure the morons who sign up or worship the NRA forget that part.
Has she even talked about him outside of being told what to say during a campaign?
ReplyDeleteNope, but good that you still aren't an honest person.
For the love of MIKE, Gryph didn't even mention her. Take your crazy elsewhere, would you please?
DeleteFor the love of Christ, she's standing RIGHT IN THE PHOTO. Take YOUR crazy elsewhere.
DeleteYou are just stupid. Seriously stupid.
DeleteLooks like someone's holding a torch for the divine Ms Palin! Love is blind and in this case, deaf, dumb and stupid.
DeletePeople who make sensitive legal things public, Rex/Tank style, are not moral people. Though no one's ever called a blogger or online gossip moral.
ReplyDeleteOh, fuck off, you stupid drooling jackass.
DeleteThe topic of discussion here is Wurzelbacher's false claim that his gun rights are more important than the rights of MURDERED CHILDREN.
God, you are disgusting. And immoral. And dishonest.
So, your definition of "moral people" are people who have illigitimate babies on a regular basis, fake pregnancy with a DS baby, run prostitution rings, cheat at snowmachine races? Moral, like that?? Lie as easily as breathe?
Delete5:03 Has anyone EVER called a PayMe family member "moral"? They are the epitome of "immoral" the whole uneducated, grifting, lying bunch.
DeleteWhat else can you expect from a deadbeat Dad like Nogt Joe the not plumber?
ReplyDeleteAnyone who thinks Sarah Palin is not a victim of the left has never actually used sense or compassion when reading unethical liberal bloggers words. Also, they've never seen the upset faces of her family when they encounter a gross lie.
ReplyDeleteI just cannot believe grown people would ever write things just to hurt people. That is SO Tank of all of you. People who can tell outright lies involving an innocent and moral man by saying he fathered a child he did not are the scum on scum's toes.
This post is about how much more important Wurzelbacher thinks his wants are than the lives of people murdered by guns.
DeleteYou are despicable and a disgusting person. Take your stupid off-topic whining pity party for traitor Palin and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
5:31
DeleteHow on earth can you make Pity Party Palin a victim when she personally along with her family members destroyed lives with her vicious lies? You really need to raise your head a couple feet above your ass and explore the internet for some nuggets of truth about your false god Palin. I have to say, in all my years I have never come across a person as misinformed and dedicated to hero worship as you. I'm guessing you troll the internet to post lies about P3 to prove to her your abject adoration. I'm guessing you do this because you have no friends and no meaningful life.
What the fuck are you talking about?? A man fathered a child he did not?? It doesn't even make sense.
DeleteAnd Sarah is not a victim.
@ 5:31
DeleteOh Please. The ONLY reason there are "upset faces" in her family is because they get slapped about the things she says.
As for "People who tell outright lies...." some day you may actually understand there is a massive filter on your eyes.
And she is so stupid it isn't funny. Proof? How about, "I can see Russia from my house." or MY favorite, "...we've got to stand with our North Korean allies."
She is not only STUPID, she's a liar, and ignorant. So DON'T tell us about her sad little family because she is the worst liar of them all.
I appreciate the Palin is a victim memes. She is the weakest victim of modern times and I am so glad that is about all that can be said about her now. She has left her supporters high and dry with a few dribbles of the old repeated patterns. Weak Sarah Palin is a victim and will never be a survivor.
DeleteSarah Palin is only a victim and not a survior.
Thank you 5:31 AM you prove she could never re-load, even that was a pile of moosecrap. Thank you 5:31 AM for pointing out how weak she is.
Whose a bigger victim? The brainless bimbo or her loyal devotee'?
DeleteOT: Sad news...
ReplyDeletehttp://triadnc.twcnews.com/content/news/708139/poet--educator-and-civil-rights-advocate-dr--maya-angelou--86--dies
Rest In Peace. It was an honor to be alive and experience your wisdom in your own words.
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Yes, Joe, you put it rather more politely than I would, but it DOES "sound harsh". How long will it take you to start pissing and moaning about your First Amendment Rights because someone says you're an asshole to talk "harshly" to people who haven't even had a chance to murdered children yet? You thin skinned fame whore.
ReplyDeleteLow info voter, redneck, self-involved, no clue about economics, Fox News tool, shameless Palin tool
ReplyDeleteThose adjectives sum up Joe the Plumber whose greatest plumbing challenge is his cranial/rectal inversion.
One thing, he isn't protecting his second amendment right. The second amendment doesn't have a thing to do with him walking around with weapons. These clowns keep on confusing the 2nd amendment with their derange, deadly interpretation.
ReplyDeleteAlso how is carrying a gun during the latest gun-toting nut shooting going to help his kids? A background check and treatment would have prevented the shooting, not another gun.
The cops would surely had shot joe's stupid bald-headed off.
I have to wonder what song Joe the Plumber will sing if one of HIS kids is needlessly killed or maimed by guns. Fucktard extraordinaire. Unfortunately, we have a whole sub-culture of these subhuman 2nd amendment "maroons."
ReplyDeleteHe'll probably say "he/she had a good life" oh well!
Delete"Another one bites the dust"? I can't imagine what a sad, pitiful life his kids have with him in their lives.
DeleteGun Control advocates: "We need to come together to develop common sense controls to keep guns out of the hands of irresponsible people. Let's start with the gun shows and online purchase background check loophole."
ReplyDelete2nd Amendment Vigilante #1: "What about knives? Knives kill too."
2nd Amendment Vigilante #2: "BENGHAZI!!!"
2nd Amendment Vigilante #3: "Look what happened to Germany when Hitler came into power!"
nd Amendment Vigilante #3: "Look what happened to Germany when Hitler came into power!"
DeleteHah, we're seeing it at this very moment by way of the same brand of ignorant zealotry that presaged that sad era.
Prove your case fool
DeleteNo fool
ReplyDeleteYou are wrong prove it
ReplyDeleteGrphyen- may I suggest a small edit? You mean "not-Joe the not-plumber" right?
ReplyDeleteAgain I repost......
ReplyDeleteBest comment on HuffPo re: Joe-the-plumber gun rights vs a child's right to live ( not to be confused with Pro-Lifers)
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Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime.
So let me see if I'm interpreting this correctly:
In America, on American soil, innocent people, living their day to day lives, should just be expected to "deal with" the fact that at any given moment, someone may open fire around them, or in a place where their loved ones are in a domestic terror attack. Nothing should be done. No one should be held accountable. Peoples right to owns guns trumps the lives of innocent children.
Meanwhile, in the country of Libya, in the city of Benghazi, Christopher Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone S. Woods and Glen Doherty, all of whom understood the risks of their jobs and the Embassy they were stationed at, were killed in an overseas terrorist attack, and the American people have been forced to pay millions for 13 public hearings that haven't turned up anything new in 11 months.
And then we have people like Hawkeye2010 who have the shear audacity to mention people using tragedies as political movements being "sick and twisted" is not just being willfully ignorant, but evil.
So, to review: Republicans care more about "finding justice" for four Americans who were killed overseas, who had full knowledge that they had dangerous jobs, than they do about "finding justice" for the thousands of American families who lose their lives, or the lives of loved ones, to a person who was able to get his/her hands on a gun far too easily.
Remember this when going into the booths this November.
27 May 11:48 AM
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DeleteSuccinct and brilliant.
DeleteLove it, will post and link.
Joe, The Plumber is a fictitious character the Rethugs made up in desperation during the failed McCain-Palin fiasco. He should not be given any consideration whatsoever. In fact, I recall reading some recent Palin diatribe suggesting that her minions needed to create some new, "Joe The plumber-like" character to further their case.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Mr. Wurzelbacher would continue to subscribe to his utterly moronic ideology if someone took the back of his kid's head off with an assault rifle?
ReplyDeleteSadly, I don't think so.
I don't either. He's clearly incapable of empathy.
DeleteThere is no appealing to their humanity. They have none. They're obsessed with their guns, because their guns represent their manhood to them, and their manhood is their all. They can't see that all they are really doing is advertising their distinct LACK of manhood.
ReplyDeleteWhat Could Go Wrong: Oklahoma City Gun Range Given The Go Ahead To Serve Alcohol
ReplyDeletehttp://freakoutnation.com/2014/05/28/what-could-go-wrong-oklahoma-city-gun-range-given-the-go-ahead-to-serve-alcohol/
Toilet Tanks And Cereal Boxes: Gun Co. Offers 'Dirty' Tips For Hiding Your Handgun
ReplyDeleteProper storage is a vital part of responsible gun ownership. Many say that lock boxes and gun safes are the best bets. (The NRA disagrees.) But Beretta, the Italian gun manufacturer, recently came up with more unusual ideas.
Together with the gun news website Guns.com, the manufacturer has put together a "down and dirty" guide to hiding handguns around the home. The ideas include stashing a gun in cereal boxes, laundry hampers, and old CD wallets.
"Be it from prying eyes, fingers or leaders, hiding your weapons is an integral part of safely owning firearms, and never more than when it comes to your handguns," says the article, which appears to be a kind of sponsored content for the gun rights set. "Tips and tricks for keeping pistols undercover and accessible in the home has been a deep and long running theme in our comment box, and though we’d never endorse rashness, here’s the dirty to keeping your handguns out of sight (but never out of mind)."
The guide, which Beretta USA posted to its Facebook page last week, walks readers through different parts of a typical home, offering tips. It asks readers to consider a number of factors, including who a gun is being hidden from: "Kids? Thieves? Jackboots?"
...In a kitchen, the options get even more varied. An empty cereal box on a high shelf is "a decent short term solution." But be sure not to pick Trix, "they're for kids." You could also "go Walter White," put your handgun in a Ziploc bag and then hide it in a freezer.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/handgun-hiding-places-beretta-toilet-cereal
Oh yeah, I can see it now. Frosted Flakes and your kid gets blown away at breakfast. These people are really fucking idiots!
Dancing on the Graves of Innocents
ReplyDelete...Recently, though, even that tactic has taken a dark turn. Now gun cultists have begun attacking victims, their families and those who defend them. "Truthers" now vandalize memorials to victims, even confronting their families spouting nonsense about "false flags" and that their loved one never even existed. It's become especially bad in states like Texas, where zealots, who brandish loaded weapons in public, taunt and sometimes threaten perfectly innocent people, especially women, who dare to talk about gun safety and sane policy. Civility and simple common courtesy have gone out the window in favor of inflammatory rhetoric, fueled by talk radio and radical organizations who believe their "2A" rights trump all other rights and the rights of all other Americans. To add insult to injury, pseudo-celebrities often add their own voices to the din, usually with some inane comment about "liberty" with a little victim blaming thrown in.
It happened again after the Isla Vista rampage, where social media came alive with the usual gun memes and commenters focusing simply on the car and the knife that Elliott Rodger used, completely ignoring the gun violence. Joe "the Plumber" Wurzelbacher then chimed in, with an open letter on conservative blog, BarbWire. It was the normal partisan screed that we've come to expect from Wurzelbacher since he was inflicted upon the American public by the McCain campaign in 2008, but this one was particularly heartless, where he poured salt into the wounds of the victims' families, saying:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-cavnar/dancing-on-the-graves-of_b_5402232.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
I'm going to toss out a hypothetical that shouldn't be put into words, but Joe crossed the line, opened the floodgates and needs to man up and own it.
ReplyDeleteJoe, when your kids become the room temperature victims of gun violence, would you still say the same insanely stupid thing about your rights trumping someone ?
I knew you didn't have much of a brain, but you're more heartless as Vice President Cheyney when he had a pump hold a spot till they "found" a compatible heart.
What's wrong with these assclowns? They haven't had funerals yet, and he's adding insult to injury.
That bludger hasn't had a job in years. How high are your SECRET child support arrears, you lazy bastard?
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