Courtesy of Mediaite:
Speaking about his 20-year-old deceased son, Richard Martinez told the press: “Our son Chris Martinez and six others are dead. Our family has a message for every parent out there: You don’t think it will happen to your child until it does.”
After explaining how beloved his son was, and how hurtful his loss is for the family, Martinez took aim at those he believes should be held responsible for the mass shooting:
"Why did Chris die? Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights. What about Chris’s right to live? When will this insanity stop? When will enough people say, “Stop this madness!” Too many have died. We should say to ourselves, “Not one more!”
I feel this father's pain, and share his frustration with a political system that seems unwilling to stand up to an organization that is pushing policies that put us ALL at risk.
Those idgits dog paddling in the pee pond think that this was orchestrated by the government in order to take their precious guns away. An FBI agent actually did the murders and used a depressed Elliot Rodger as their patsy? The stupidity over there BURNS.
ReplyDeleteThese types will NEVER take responsibility for their own actions. Therefore, we need to take it for them.
DeleteYet they quote Bible passages up and down. It's mind boggling.
DeleteThose people who frequent that site with their foaming hate posts are not much in favor of Matthew 7:12 you know, the so-called golden rule. Oddly enough, I haven't heard duck boy refer to that one either.
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DeleteSeriously?
I supposed they didn't bother to watch the kid's video or read his loser manifesto?
Fuck no wonder those losers love palin, they are dumber than DUMB!
I wonder if Sarah will mock HIM? Will she go and buy some more guns?
ReplyDeleteI personally think she licks her herpied lips and rubs her hands together.
DeleteSarah doesn't pay for her own political props! Her good buddy Wayne or perhaps Ted will buy her one. You know how it is with sicko guys liking to stir up jaded girls with a small present so that they can watch the show.
DeleteFour guns bought legally and 400 rounds of ammo. Why doesn't anyone ask why?
ReplyDelete"Deputies found three semi-automatic handguns with 400 unspent rounds in his black BMW. All were purchased legally."
Deletehttp://www.thewire.com/national/2014/05/suspect-in-mass-shooting-in-california-released-threatening-youtube-video/371558/
And the department of health visited him last month because of the videos he posted.
DeleteThe Sheriff was on one of the Sunday shows defending his cops saying that he was not institutionalized so therefore could legally buy weapons. However, this article says http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638427/He-disturbed-boy-British-grandmother-Santa-Barbara-mass-killer-boy-grew-Hollywood-royalty-posted-chilling-blogs-vowing-revenge-against-women-rejected-him.html
DeleteMr Rodger added that the family are staunchly against guns, saying he had no idea how his son got hold of a firearm.
Police did not find a history of guns, but did say Rodger 'didn't have a lot of friends,' and didn't have any girlfriends.
He was diagnosed at an earlier age with Asperger's Syndrome, a high-functioning form of autism meaning he had difficulties with social interaction.
Rodger was living with roommates at the Independent Living Institute in Santa Barbara, a facility that offers 'living skills instruction to help adults with disabilities to live more independently in their communities,' according to the website.
Shifman added: 'My clients’ mission in life will be to try and prevent any such tragedies from ever happening again.
'This country, this world needs to address mental illness and the ramifications from not recognizing these illnesses.'
The Daily Mail has several good articles
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638777/Sinister-diagram-Elliot-Rodgerreveals-deranged-plan-kill-women-not-sleeping-him.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638595/Surveillance-video-Santa-Barbara-deli-shows-moment-crazed-killer-opened-fire-customers-gunning-20-year-old-UCSB-student-bloody-crime-spree.html
I don't buy the Aspie dx.
Watch his vids he is a Narcissist/sociopath like Palin is.
Three more bodies have been removed from Rodgers apartment complex, so he killed BEFORE he shot the college kids. He was in the care of numerous phsychologists, yet was able to buy guns? Until the destruction personally touches someone in DC, this will continue. They feel safe there, but their families are in as much danger as the rest of us.
ReplyDelete7:22 I suspect the politicians and their families are in more possible harm than are the rest of the population throughout the country.
DeleteMore and more are blaming them and the management of the NRA.
10:03 The difference is that the people who are upset are sane, democratic voters who try to resolve differences without violence. The raging lunatics are all for open carry and parading around with huge semi automatic weapons slung across their shoulders. So, Wayne LaPierre and the money grubbing politicians are safe for now. Their supporters are not going after them. Not to say that one of them, or a relative, might not get caught in the crossfire one of these days. I know from experience that all the $$$ in the world can not bring a precious child back. They can line their pockets, but eventually it will catch up with them, their greed is out of control.
DeleteAnd yet, the bigger weapon they tote make them look like the bigger coward they are. No discussion, I'll just blow you away. Nice.
Delete10:03 AM
DeleteBristol Palin rushed right down to the court house to get a restraining order to keep a stalker from attacking Tripp or Bristol.
The Palins must be deeply effected by this rage on Bristol's peers.
What happened to Bristol's stalker? Did she get a permanent order? Did he leave Alaska?
Maybe she slept with him, that usually drives them away!! None of the guys seem to stick around for long.
DeleteNothing will change until Republican politicians and NRA members lose their children to senseless gun violence.
DeleteAs long as other people's children are the ones dying they don't really care. But then again many of them would probably not care even if their own children show down by a "man with a gun".
As long as the money keeps rolling in from the NRA and other gun organizations and gun lobbyist.
Listening to this man's grief is so painful. How horrible for him and all the parents of slain children. His anger was my anger. When will this stop?
ReplyDeleteThe people who push against common sense gun laws, and the NRA, and their paid puppets, like Palin, etc., are cashing in their checks, while the innocents are being slaughtered. This slaughter could be contained, if these politicians and leaders would change their hearts, but their hearts have waxed cold, icy cold.
They can laugh and applaud jokes about killing, waterboarding, pay-back to the enemy, the robber, the intruder on their lawn, the Muslim, the perceived enemy in their fickle minds; they can make reality TV episodes that glorify AR-15 production and tweet that it's the best gift to give, but they don't hang around when it gets into the wrong hands. They hide and wait and come out of hiding after the funerals and make their stupid idiotic statements all over again, with checks in hand.
Sarah Palin can giggle and gloat her way to stardom, on the backs of these dead children with bullet holes in their bodies, but she can't possibly go to bed with a clear conscience.
I wonder if she has the right brain chemistry to feel guilt. To some of us, guilt is horrific, but I don’t see that in her.
DeleteI agree, Darlene, I remember my college courses and she'd make a great case study in abnormal psych.
DeleteSarah Palin has never shown compassion or warmth to anything throughout the past ten years! Look how she treats and uses her own children. And, her husband (if he is still that!?) lost his balls to her a long time ago. She's had affairs during her marriage, has raised delinquent children and was found to be unethical by the Alaska Legislature during her half term as quitter governor. She is one evil, nasty menopausal freak!
DeleteShe is NOT a 'star' or politician! She's nothing more than a joke, proven liar, fraud and loser!
Got THAT right, 10:01 AM! For any of us with a semi-functioning brain, no WAY would we go where she has gone. Yet, she considers herself "called by God." If that isn't mental illness, I don't know what is.
Delete10:28 AM The shooter, Elliot Rodgers also had a God complex. Highly narcissistic,
DeletePalin is an empty shell.
DeleteIs it a coincidence that Sarah and Eliot have similarities? Eliot was diagnosed but not Sarah. I suppose HIPAA keeps all her medical conditions private. Her behaviors are so loud and glaring, they are hard to miss. Her daughters and old son, they inherited some real bad traits. How old is Willow? She can't get a job, none at all. I think Eliot did get jobs, not that he could hold on to them. He was high functioning and seemed to do alright with learning in school. Not something the Palins can do.
DeleteWe all know Sarah Palin to be a mental case and on the side of being retarded. Her family is who has to gather and agree to do something and it's pretty obvious no one wants to! After all, she is the only one that brings in money for the bunch of them.
DeleteMessed up family from that small town in Alaska where they are referred to as 'white trash'! Alaskans don't even claim the Palin/Heath families.
Sarah Palin has never shown compassion or warmth to anything throughout the past ten years!
DeleteShe has many traits like Elliot Rodgers. I'm not saying she is an Aspie. It is hard to deny she is a narcissist. She is also void of emotions and has that dead look like a sociopath or psychopath. What ever her diagnosis she belongs in the nonhuman category.
CNN host bans all gun control talk after Calif. mass shooting, then gets schooled by panelists
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/25/cnn-host-bans-all-gun-control-talk-after-calif-mass-shooting-then-gets-schooled-by-panelists/
Fox News ‘expert’ suggests ‘homosexual impulses’ triggered Calif. mass shooting
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/25/fox-news-expert-suggests-homosexual-impulses-triggered-calif-mass-shooting/
Jesus H. Christ! CNN and FOX are the very worst news outlets in the country. FOX supposedly is #1 as to viewership but look at their number count as to the total population of the USA. It's really not as significant as they like to tout!!
DeleteCNN just doesn't have qualified folks on the air. Their ratings have gone down throughout the past year. They are still talking about that airplane that went down for crying out loud!
Actually, he was a fucking racist misogynist. I read his whole manifesto of gawker and he repeatedly talked about being outraged at seeing blonde girls with men of other races. It INFURIATED him! And the way he talked about women was vile, as if we are all objects and he was entitled to a hot girlfriend...not a girlfriend, but a HOT one. Clearly he was straight and clearly he was influenced by negative attitudes towards women. Gee...I wonder where he picked those up from?
DeleteIf the nra and the gop doesn't care about 20 little kid being shredded to death, they won't care about some Mexican who was shot.
ReplyDeletenra is a greedy, bloodthirsty, shameless, heartless, violent organization which the gop gladly co-op.
My thoughts exactly.
DeleteIf 5-year-olds getting slaughtered at Sandy Hook didn't inspire the tiniest shred of guilt or sympathy from these people (and I use that term loosley), nothing will. They value their profits far above any amount of innocent human life and will continue to fight for the elimination of all gun regulations no matter how horrific the loss of life may be.
The number of people killed by guns, either in homicides or suicides, equals nearly TEN 9/11s EVERY YEAR!
And still we do nothing as the right works to repeal even the most lax gun laws.
I think we are going to see killings take place in the USA that are purposeful and aimed directly at a certain category of folks that are creating the problems! And, then who will be blamed?
DeleteHomosexuals, of course!!
DeleteOf course!! He rails against women, 141 pages and more of his rantings. Of course, he hid his real agenda and only a FOX shrink can decipher him.
Delete"When people say, 'Guns aren't the problem, mental illness is the problem,' I reply, 'They're both problems, and right now we're not addressing either of them.'" -- Andy Borowitz
ReplyDeleteYeah, mental health is the problem...so...shouldn't we be SEVERELY limiting acces to guns from the mentally ill? Because right now the NRA is fighting attempts to do that. Just remember that!
DeleteThe NRA is even opposed to smart guns, that owners can use to make sure that no one but them would fire the gun. Think of the kids that would be saved from being killed by other kids, for one example. Think of the 7 year old who grows up knowing that he killed his baby sister "by accident" with the gun in the corner that of course was "not loaded". Yep, the NRA is against selling safe guns. So, the NRA does oppose selling SOME guns.
DeleteThe NRA is so successful because of stupid, ignorant, racists. How many mass shootings have been committed by black people? Most are done by white upper middle class whites. Black people usually shoot for a reason in their own neighborhood. White people choose total strangers, innocent kids and blame the victims. Pretty soon tourists will be afraid to visit this country, since they will assume we are ALL gun crazy.
ReplyDeleteI've been reading lots of comments lately from people in other countries who are starting to rethink their planned visits to the US. We're beginning to get a reputation like third world war torn countries.
DeleteThey already are afraid to visit this country.
DeleteWhile on vacation last summer, I overheard a young Canadian family telling someone about how they never react to other driver's mistakes while driving in the U.S., because they are afraid the other car will shoot at them. Not so illogical.
These kind of things just don't happen with such frequency in other places.
It does look like a war zone in the USA. All our war mongers are yelling their crap and fighting for more gun rights yadda yadda, fight, fight. There are many people that travel from all over the world to Santa Barbara. I am sure they once thought it was a lovely safe destination. Not so much now.
DeleteJust the other day I told my son that if I am at a stop light, and the green arrow turn signal is on, I NEVER honk my horn if someone is ahead of me. I used to, but not anymore. You take your life into your own hands each time you leave the house these days.
DeleteNobody with even a little brain power needs an automatic weapon to hunt, unless the prey is other humans. The clowns with large automatic rifles strapped on their backs look ridiculous, yet they seem to think they are REAL men. The country has gone so far down the rabbit hole (thanks gop) it may be too late to restore sanity. All it took was for a black man to be elected TWICE into the WH, and the nuts all came out. The fact that he is twice as intelligent as any of the fools in DC is what makes them so upset, I think.
ReplyDeletePeople don't hunt with automatic weapons, and the guys with guns strapped to their backs are not carrying automatic weapons either. Another day, another IM post filled with comments from people who know nothing of guns.
DeleteHe plays a DAMN good game of chess, doesn't he?
DeleteCorrect, as a rule people don't hunt with automatic weapons. They need/want automatic weapons for other reasons. To protect themselves against drones, black helicopters and when a drunk neighbor stumbles into the wrong house, or a spouse or your kid comes in at the wrong time and doesn't want to wake anyone up. Automatics and massive rounds a ammo are a staple in the homes of NRA defenders, they feel entitled, threatened and paranoid if someone dares has another concept of a sane society.
DeleteActually, 8:43, more and more people ARE hunting with semi-automatics and you know damn well what 8:14 was talking about.
DeleteThe problem is, far too many of those people hunting with those particular guns were hunting other people.
I wish President Obama could be POTUS for a third term vs any of the friggin' loony tunes in the Republican party!
DeleteBut then - hopefully former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will run as I'm sure she would be elected!
Watch that drive the Republicans absolutely nuts and they'll be after her just as much as they have been our half-black POTUS!
In my worst facetious moments, 9:47 AM, I'd like to see him call martial law and do what he set out to do in the first place. :)
DeleteNo, the NRA gets away with it because the media feels the need to present their side of the issue with equal or greater weight and because the people who support their organization vote EN BLOC for conservatives, even though most of them are, as individuals, are opposed to alot of their positions. The politicians keep taking extreme positions on gun control because people don't vote based on the issue and there's lot of money to be made by being an extreme gun rights -- "rights" -- legislator.
DeleteLiterally -- LITERALLY! -- Osama bin laden could have walked into any fun shop in America and bought a small arsenal of guns because the NRA pigs blocked laws that would keep people who are on the terrorist watch list from buying guns and no one in the media held them responsible for this extremist and ridiculous position.
8:34 Give me ONE good reason why anyone needs an automatic weapon, unless they are in a war zone? Just ONE reason. Are they such wimps that only ownng a killing weapon can make them feel like men?
DeleteYES, 11:36 AM.
Delete11:36, who said anything about 'needing' automatic weapons? Point is, 8:14 and apparently you also, are showing your complete lack of gun knowledge- a regular occurance here at IM. To actually legally own an automatic weapon, takes more money than most people have, and requires an extremely stringent and lengthy permitting process that most people aren't up for- or wouldn't pass. But go ahead and keep publicly showing your ignorance of guns- while pretending to know all about them.
Delete11:36 AM
DeleteIt is wet dreams for Tea Bags, fake Patriots and that lott to be in a war zone. The next best thing to them is to carry their weapon of choice. If nothing else it is intimidating and no 2 year old will mess with them.
I know nothing about guns, except that too many FOOLS own them, and kill others with them. That is all I need to know. YOU are the ignorant one, must be a Palin, huh? Too bad. Seems a lot of people who own these killing weapons are overweight and possibly on SSI, so why are they so anti-government? They stand outside businessess, trying to look "manly", but the big bellies give the game away.
DeleteAnonymous8:34 AM
DeleteAnother day, another IM post filled with comments from people who know nothing of guns.
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Fuck YOU NRA troll! GUNS KILL AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO KNOW!!!
12:24 PM
DeleteSure... guns are only for the rich and elites. lol
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Automatic weapons pretty much are 5:12, and only if even they can pass the permitting, but you probably are another IMr who knows nothing about guns.
DeleteIsn't it about time for someone to come out and call this man's deep reaching grief "anti-gun chatter"? Or better yet, write the words in a christian book.
ReplyDeleteQueen Esther invites you to buy and read her books. All that godliness wrapped up in one person....let's all bow.
DeletePoor deprived kid in his BMW full of lethal armaments.
ReplyDeleteWho said it is " it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."?
DeleteThat may apply to the 22 yo mentally disturbed manchild. He was sick and empty inside, a big zero but outside he had great material. People don't care to look deep, they skim the surface and see all the glitter and shiny stuff.
Like bullies are cowards, yet what do you see when you look at a bully? They look tough on the outside.
This propaganda is not cheap.
http://conservatives4palin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Amazing-America-page-ad.jpg
Over the years there are shitloads of it and I doubt there is any truth to it at all. It is all posed and fabricated. It is done for power and money. It is all one gaint infomercial to feed some greedy ass holes.
Palin is also one of those camels that won't be passing through the eye of a needle.
If she loses much more weight, she will pass through!! Pretty soon she will have to add suspenders to those penis jeans that hang aound her genitals.
DeleteLet's see, this guy killed three people with a knife, and three people with a gun. He was stopped by a bullet in his brain.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it that his father and all of you here are calling for gun control and not knife control?
Or better yet, how about unbalanced mentally ill people actually get committed to institutions where they can do no harm to others? Why do they need to be out walking around just waiting like a time bomb to go off? There is misplaced compassion in trying to keep people on the streets with problems like this guys obviously had. "Ohh he's mentally ill he can't help it." "We should treat him like everybody else." Except you mental midgets, he's not like everybody else and pretending he is, means you are just sticking your heads in the sand. This guy should have been committed. For his protection and everyone else's.
10:05 You are the mental midget. The NRA fights against restriction of gun sales, that is how this nut was able to legally purchase those guns. Wake up and smell the coffee, the NRA is out of control and greedy for money from the gun manufacturers lobbyists. What makes you think that you are any better than the rest of us, Assclown?
Delete1 to 1.5 million people in America live with an autism spectrum disorder, which is how Asperger's Syndrome is classified.
DeleteHell even Albert Einstein suffered a mild form of autism.
There are many millions of more people living in this country living with one form of mental challenge or another, from bipolar disorder, to manic depression, to hyperactive attention deficit disorder.
The vast majority of these people do NOT pose a serious risk to other people. And will function just fine for their entire lives.
No, the what turned this young man from an angry, deeply disturbed YouTube ranter, to a killer, was easy access to handguns.
THAT is the crux of the problem, and THAT is what needs to be changed.
This is such a simplistic argument and seems to be the NRA talking point du jour. Knives kill people too! Cars! Let's take them all away! This happened yesterday, and I've already read this same b.s.comment over a dozen times.
DeleteThis poor man lives in my neck-of-the woods and already he's being called out for "politicizing" his grief.
If he doesn't have the right to wade into this issue, no one does.
Everywhere I've been in 40 years, I've worked with at least 1 person who has aspergers to some degree.
DeleteHonestly Gryphen, if he's that angry, he's going to find a way to kill. Bombs are easy to make.
DeleteThere have been nearly a dozen incidents in my area over the past few weeks where car or truck windows have been shot out while their owners are driving on the highway. Luckily, no one has been seriously injured or killed - yet - but the police are working furiously to catch the person or persons responsible before someone dies.
DeleteThe problem they are having is that, by the time someone reports the incident, the shooter is long gone, having shot their weapon from a significant distance with no witnesses. People could very easily be killed long distance, either by the shot itself or by an accident caused by a window being shot out. Please explain to me how someone with a knife, which is designed for purposes other than killing, could cause this kind of incident.
It is obvious to everyone, with the possible exception of yourself, that guns can kill large numbers of people quickly and from a distance, something that is impossible with a knife.
As for the institutionalization of those with mental illness, many of the people who have committed mass killings have had little or no diagnosed mental illness prior to their crime. All too often a mass killer is called a 'responsible gun owner'...until they're not.
No, dumbshit. He killed 10 people. The three deaths by stabbing were just discovered yesterday and are in addition to the seven originally reported. Also, he injured seven people and to ignore that is pretty ducking shitty.
DeleteDid you know, you dumb duck, that the day before Newtown, a man in china walked into a school and stabbed a bunch of kids...all THOSE kids lived...by the way.
Gryph, I have two grandsons on the spectrum. These ridiculous arguments make me so angry. They have no idea.
DeleteThere is knife control in some places, try taking one to school. There was a time you couldn't travel with certain objects.
DeleteHad this guy been trained, say in the Army, it is possible he could have used the 400 rounds of ammunition in his car. He picked a small place and knew there would be plenty of targets. Had law enforcement not done so well in those first few minutes this could have been a whole different story on the streets. Three to many were shot, but 300-400 dead students and shoppers was plausible.
11:30 AM I take it you want to be addressed as dumbshit... ok
DeleteDUMBSHIT,
Go back and read the latest. You got all that wrong. The Sheriff explains it to those paying attention, listening, reading comprehension and things like that.
Why is it that his father and all of you here are calling for gun control and not knife control?
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IDIOT NRA TROLL! HOW ABOUT CAR CONTROL? HE MOWED DOWN TWO BICYCLISTS! BUT HE PROB HAD THE MANDATORY CAR INS SO AT LEAST THOSE FAMILY'S WILL BE ABLE TO BURY THE DEAD! FUCK OFF YOU PIG NRA TROLL!
Gryphen, you are wrong. He killed with a knife before he shot anyone. So it wasn't access to guns that turned him into a killer. By the time he shot someone, he was already a killer times three.
DeleteAnd dumbshit at 11:30, he killed six not 10. Three with a knife and three with a gun. He was the 7th to die.
Anonymous 8:56 PM
DeleteIt is not about what turned him into a killer and no one thinks sane gun laws would end killing altogether. People have killed since people walked the earth. If the earth had no knives, cars or guns, there would still be killing.
Every other nut case would not be massacring at schools, theatres, malls and so on. The places where parents send their children and families go would be safer. Less massacres in our society.
Semi-automatics and large caches of ammo are not needed outside of war zones. Why anyone over-reacts with the fear of loosing some imagined right to have semi-automatics as widely available as they are... it is proof that there are many unreasonable and insane people in America.
This young man is a perfect example of WHY it is adamant males have their mothers in their lives whenever possible. The opposite gendered parent is often most crucial to a healthy mentality.
ReplyDeleteTeen boys are often at odds with their fathers. And teen girls are wellknown to be at frequent odds with their mothers. Both those dynamics are captured well in television because everyone experiences that.
I feel badly for this young man in California. He needs his momma to love him and teach him.
What bullshit.
DeleteOh, Bristol, you've already demonstrated you're not able to model or encourage a healthy mentality in Tripp, so you may as well save your severely limited energy and stop spouting nonsense.
DeleteHoly chit, 10:26 AM, do you understand mental illness at all?
DeleteWhat makes you think his mother wasn't available and didn't love him, you damn fool?
DeleteSingle parents successfully raise healthy, compassionate, empathetic children all the time. And two-parent families with a healthy and loving relationship sometimes are not enough to prevent or ameliorate the devastating effects of some mental illnesses.
Your comment is one of the most asinine I have seen regarding this tragedy.
And by the way, his mother can't love him or teach him anything any more because he is dead.
Wow. You're as much of a misogynist as the dude who did the killing. And he wanted to put all women in concentration camps.
DeleteHe is dead, too late.
DeleteGood luck in court, Bristol. You're raising such an upstanding young man just like the rest of your family.
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DeleteHoly chit, 10:26 AM, do you understand mental illness at all?
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Its Barstool...the most mental mother of all...little man...
I love how the right has suddenly started bleating about mental health as a way of distracting people from common sense gun control. They who have consistently and effectively starved the very programs and clinics that they say should have been utilized as prevention for these tragedies.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.salon.com/2013/09/29/ronald_reagans_shameful_legacy_violence_the_homeless_mental_illness/
I remember thinking after Connecticut, that the "anti-gun chatter" was ridiculous. All that was proposed was strengthening of checks when purchasing guns, ie in all those unregulated gun "penis enlarging" bizarres. Everyone knew they couldn't go for anything substantial like the ban against AK 47s that WE ALREADY HAD BEFORE. So, they tried for stricter checks on gun sales, which would have included some mental health aspects. The wingers were even against THAT. But, things may be changing now that the NRA is firmly in the corner of BANNING smart guns. You know, the ones that can't kill babies and children without the owner intentionally aiming and pulling the trigger.
DeleteYeah, we have a mental health problem in this country...which is why we need background checks and to make sure that crazy people aren't able to get guns.
DeleteIt is too wild west when idiots don't vet politicians running for an office and are lackadaisical when it comes to gun sense and safety.
Deletehttp://www.sociology.org/content/vol003.004/thomas.html
ReplyDeleteSure people get killed with knives, but how many are killed by in drive-by "knivings"? Only a complete mental midget would make your argument, but you are what you are. Do knives shoot out bullets? Can knife ammo be adjusted to explode deeply inside the body to do the maximum amount of harm? If there were people attacked with knives, do you think a politician would brag about buying a large "much needed" knife, because of all the "anti-knife chatter"? All of those children in Connecticut would not have been killed, had the murderer been armed with a knife. Do you even care that some of those children were shot 11 times each, making their bodies unrecognizable? Do you think that he would have succeeded in stabbing more than one person without the others having time to defensibly react? IIRC he shot out the protective windows to get in. Good luck doing that with a knife. Would a celebrity politician ever put "knife sight" targets over a congresswoman's name in print? Guns are the problem, and guess what, the tide is changing, it's just a matter of time before the right (correct) people are elected. https://www.momsdemandaction.org/
ReplyDeleteHow many semi-automatic knives are there?
DeleteTo kill with a knife requires very close contact which makes it more difficult, slower, less effective and much, MUCH more personal.
DeleteKilling with a gun allows the shooter to remain somewhat detached from the situation, both physically and emotionally, and large numbers of people can be killed rapidly.
There is simply NO comparison between the two.
The US is run by the NRA and a bunch of lunatic gun nuts. Maybe if some of those loonies have their family members shot, they will change their tune. This country has gone to hell. I think there should be a new classification in the DSM for lunatics that love their guns more than anything. It must make the wimps feel powerful to be able to show off their big guns, makes them real tough guys for knowing they can kill any human or animal at any time.
ReplyDeleteAll that $$$ talks, especially to politicians. They do not represent ordinary people, just the wealthy who line their pockets. Strange how every last one of them leaves office as millionaires, isn't it? Time for term limits. At the very least there should be a retirement age, so the ones like little Johnny McCain can not go on TV every Sunday, calling for another invasion. I seriously think he is in the early stages of dementia, the way he keeps sticking out his tongue.
Deleteearly stages? You are being kind 1151a
DeleteMcCain appears to have had mental problems for years. He's getting worse in that he keeps calling for the US to get into more wars. What a jerk! But, he's a typical Republican and did pick Sarah Palin from Wasiller, Alaska w/o vetting her properly.
DeleteThe Republicans are a messed up party and do not represent the folks that have elected them across the country. They do NOTHING and all they've done is OBSTRUCT!
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/25/i-was-the-nra/
ReplyDelete"The NRA has killed off the sportsman with their neglect and replaced him with the gun nut who spends more money on more guns, not out of a desire to feed his family, but to stave off a mythical jack-booted government bogeyman coming to take away those guns. This paranoid vision of America that the NRA sells is why we have the gun violence that we have today, because no sensible gun legislation can be passed because of what the father of one of Elliott Rodger’s victims described as “craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA.”
Wayne LaPierre, his co-horts, and every politician who has taken money from the NRA should be ashamed. How they sleep at night, I will never know. So busy trying to pass laws to restrict women, that the carnage escapes them, since none of them have been directly affected - YET.
DeleteLaPierre and many Republicans should be handled as was the Valentine's crowd years ago. What a nasty bunch! Not fit to have any say whatsoever over the American people.
DeleteI am all in favor of a system in which mental illness can be taken into account as to whether someone should own or have access to guns.
ReplyDeleteI also want a system which will assess angry, stupid, irresponsible, and/or egotistical jackasses and whether they should own or have access to guns.
I am 10000% plus with the courageous strong dear Mr. Martinez.
ReplyDeleteC'mon, $arah, you COWARD, say something oh queen of all beings.
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin has a mental illness and should NOT be owning guns! But, we already know she doesn't know how to handle one: i.e. couldn't hold it correctly, didn't know how to load it and missed the target when on that video w/her Dad. She's as retarded and inept as they come!
ReplyDeleteI'm a woman and, honestly, who of us puts gun sights on districts encouraging people to go for it? Gabby Giffords spoke out about it right before she was sht in the head and people died. We knoe what she sad afterward,
DeleteYou are no more Christian, $arah Palin, than my siamese cat. He thinks it's ALL about hiim, and you do, too.
FUNNY lack of the troll comments. Has God told her now's her time? On this Memorial Day weekend. when so many have died for what she and RWNJs espouse, you go right ahead, uneducated tart.
DeleteWhile you sit in your fortress planning your next attack, there's family at graves crying. Your drug addicted "warrior" son that never saw combat,
Keep spewing it, wench. We all know.
He's absolutely right, how he was able to speak and maintain his composure is an act of grace and courage.
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ReplyDeleteMy son-in-law was caught on school property with a gun laying on the front seat of his truck. Because he knew the policeman he was not sited, just left to go. I would like to bring this matter to the correct anti gun lobbist in my area. This again is a case of people with killers getting away with being in position of a gun on school property. It seems it is not what you know but who. I was so saddened when I heard about the loss of the children gunned down this week not to mention all the other needless killings.
Hoping to find someone in my town who will listen and do something about this senseless killings.