Sunday, October 05, 2014

There is nothing rooty tooty or fresh and fruity about this IHOP. Though apparently you will find plenty of nuts.

"Prophet" Mike Bickle
I have been hearing references to this International House of Prayer (IHOP) for some time now, but I have not really spent any time reading about it because I figured these Evangelical types are pretty much throwing themselves against the rubber walls of the same metaphorical looney bin.

I may have to rethink that.

Talking Points Memo recently did a piece on the church that is, in a word, "chilling."

Here is just an excerpt: 

Through IHOP and its associated church, Forerunner Christian Fellowship, Bickle claims to be cultivating an elite class of “forerunners,” or people who “represent God and his interests,” and who “prepare the people to respond rightly to Jesus by making known God's plans so the people can make sense of what will happen before it actually happens.” His vision of the end-times, which is central to his teaching, maintains that these “redeemed” people will be raptured just as Jesus begins his “royal procession” into Jerusalem. Bickle believes they will return to earth as “resurrected saints” who will “possess supernatural abilities.” When Jesus rules as “King over all dominions and spheres of society,” these resurrected saints will rule with him, “as kings and priests.”

Essentially Bickle sells a certain spiritual snake oil that suggests that Jesus needs his followers to prepare the planet for His return, and that by doing that they will in turn be granted super powers.

You know, because there is nothing crazy about that.

Rolling Stone also wrote about the church earlier this year while covering the death of a young woman at the hands of one of the church's "apostles:"

This is IHOP's most alluring tenet: God needs IHOPers to effect the Tribulation and bring Christ back to Earth. "The church causes the Great Tribulation," Bickle has preached. Before founding IHOP, he argued that "God intends us to be like gods. God has conceived in his heart of a plan to make a race of men that would live like gods on Earth." Bickle sometimes affects to know God as he would a peer. "I heard what I call the internal audible voice of the Lord," he has said. He claims that he visited heaven one night at 2:16 a.m., and the Lord charged him with preparing for an End Times ministry and seated him in a golden chariot that lifted off into the empyrean. At IHOP, where prophetic experiences are endemic, the mortal and divine commingle liberally. 

The vanguard of God's End Times army, according to Bickle, will be made up of young people, or "forerunners," seers specially attuned to the will of the Lord, "the best of all the generations that have ever been seen on the face of the Earth." For seven years of Tribulation, they will battle the Antichrist. When Christ returns, he will slaughter by sword in a single day the unsaved, and his warriors will rule heaven and Earth forevermore. 

Let's get this straight. Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace, is coming back to hack all of the non-believers into pieces?

Boy that sure doesn't sound good for my people now does it? Or Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Episcopalians, Catholics, Methodists, or pretty much anybody not attending this church.

Damn, that is a lot of slaying for one day. I wonder if his arm would get tired?

Speaking of getting tired check out how attending the church seems to have affected this young intern.

Apparently this young woman is undergoing some supernaturally induced Braxton Hick contractions, or else multiple orgasms, I can't tell which. And clearly this is not considered in any way odd, or troubling to the congregants in attendance.

There are a lot of Evangelical and Charismatic churches out there, but it seems to me that this one is promoting a special kind of crazy.

It always amazes me that this kind of thing is still happening in the most powerful nation on earth in 2014.  Actually I am both amazed, and deeply deeply troubled.

44 comments:

  1. I can't decide whether that is hysterically funny, terrifying, or just plain sad. Think I'll go with sad.
    Seems to me that is child abuse.

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    1. Anonymous7:36 PM

      Is he related to Travis Bickle?

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    2. Anonymous6:56 AM

      Let me direct you to a documentary "God Loves Uganda" which details IHOP's involvement in the "Kill the Gays" law in Uganda. There is also a guy called Lou Engle who if you google him, you will slap you forehead and go "Oh, that guy". He was part of the Rich Perry pray in a few years ago, involved in a movement named "The Call" and was featured in the documentary "Jesus Camp", molding or is that moldering the minds of young people. Even though he and IHOP are caught on camera praising the anti-gay laws in Uganda, when the film came out, they said they NEVER supported that law. Right. And Right Wing Watch has story after story about both Engle and IHOP. Compare them to Dallas County judge Clay Jenkins who worked with the local religious community to find housing for the minor children coming from Central America and also advocated for and found housing for the family stuck in the apartment where the Ebola patient was staying. What indeed would Jesus do?

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  2. LoveAndKnishesFromBrooklyn4:51 PM

    "Let's get this straight. Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace, is coming back to hack all of the non-believers into pieces?"

    Hmmmm...and these "good" Xtains believe this. Sound kinda like another zealot group that's been in the news lately?

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  3. Anonymous4:52 PM


    I have come to the conclusion that religious people are gullible, how else can this bs be explained?
    These people don't believe in evolution, but they buy into this bs...... how stupid are they???????

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    1. Anonymous5:56 PM

      They way she references "drunk" all the time, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of brainwashing/drugs involved. Of course it works best in the ignorant and vulnerable.

      Jim Jones used Kool Aid.

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    2. Anonymous9:19 PM

      Not only stupid but dangerous. Here are some extensive informational links about Mike Bickle on rightwingwatch.org

      http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/people/mike-bickle

      Unfortunately, by promoting ignorance and fostering an emotional reaction (rather than rational thought) to every situation, Fox News and the entire right wing political/propaganda machine have done MUCH in preparing the people's 'brains' and spirits for this very kind of thing, and I do not think the outcome will be pretty.

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  4. Anonymous4:55 PM

    Dammit, now I want some waffles ;-)

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    1. Anonymous5:43 PM

      French Toast.....

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    2. Anonymous6:16 PM

      French Toast sounds REALLY good.

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    3. Anonymous7:44 PM

      Blueberry pancakes. Used to study there late nights/early am with a couple of friends and a pot of coffee when roommates got rowdy and I had exams. Only IHOP I recognize.

      This other made-up shit for superstitious people is just a con played by grifters to scare them into giving $$$. Scammers all.

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  5. Anonymous4:55 PM

    So glad that you posted this, Gryphen, I've been studying this HARD the past year. See, I went to high school with a person who was well adjusted, well liked, ready for success, had every tool to succeed (wealthy family, etc). He left it all to join IHOP. The tribulations he and his family were subjected to, I cannot even type here in a public forum. They left the church very recently. He was extremely high profile in the cult. Suddenly, he left. This is a scary, scary, scary group, and I wish I could type all that I've read and discovered, but I cannot. Safe to say, if you google folks that have been HEALED from disease by this group...they forced those kids to get up and give "testimony"...well, those kids are not well today. Not healed. It is frightening, and gross.

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    1. Anonymous4:18 AM

      I went to school with Bickle and he was a jerk back then in grade school and junior high. Some things never change. In grade school he was in the "slow" learners class I was in with the "smarter " kids. He sure learned how to make his mark in the world though!

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  6. Anonymous5:13 PM

    Breakfast for dinner, $arah, or can any of you come out of your compound? This is what you wanted? World wide hilarity? i just cannot imagine having parents like you. It's textbook WTF. I feel for your children whomever is the father of any of them.

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  7. Anonymous5:42 PM

    The Jesus freaks gets more and more freakish each decade.

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  8. Anonymous5:52 PM

    Holy SHIT! How desperate, damaged, and/or dumb do you have to be to be part of this congregation?

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  9. Anonymous5:54 PM

    ...and people buy into this bullshit?
    i wondered if she had ben-woah balls in her vag, and the dude standing there was pushing the on-off button...
    surprised she didn't end her nonsense by dropping to the floor and yelling...I'M Cumming for jesus....lol

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  10. Anonymous6:04 PM

    I don't think any of that is in Revelation, and no one knows where Revelation came from anyway....there are lots and lots of books that are claimed to be holy, and only a few of them made the Papist cut to the Bible. Why they let this one stay, who knows? To scare the crap out of folks? Probably. End with a cryptic scary book that can only be explained by a 'preacher.' Kind of like when Catholics were forbidden to read the Bible, which was in latin for how long? Frightening how people can be led by the nose when someone talks about 'their vision' of the afterlife. I guess Mormon Smith had it wrong then? And what about the Dominionists? Cruz thinks that taking over America means he gets all the cash to build a golden castle or something....

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  11. Balzafiar6:28 PM

    Unadulterated nonsense! Anyone who can't tell these two are putting on an act with all that twitching and jerking -- and badly at that -- is ripe for being swindled out of their last dime.

    Now if Sarah could teach Bristol and Willow how to do the twitch and jerk, why the dollars would start rolling in again, big time. If the sender doubles the amount, they get an autographed picture of Trackmark's naked warrior body. What a money maker!

    Wow! Let the good times roll!

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  12. Anita Winecooler6:32 PM

    First, I wonder if House of Pancakes can sue them for using "IHOP" when all they do is sway from side to side, writhe in ecstasy and speak jibberish?
    Do they have the same manifestations at Chic Fil A or Hobby Lobby, or is it just a pancake thing?

    Then, Do these girls "date"? and if they do, do their boyfriends say (From "when harry met Sally") "I'll have what SHE'S having"

    Third, Did Sarah have the same symptoms on "The Wild Ride"?

    Braxon Hicks or continuous orgasm? I think it's a mixture of those PLUS having to go to the bathroom REALLY bad.

    No offense to anyone who "belongs" to this bullshit show, but this is the craziest thing I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of Crazy, believe me.

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    1. Anonymous6:42 PM

      Notice the pelvic thrusts both were doing? Crazy weird stuff.

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    2. Anonymous7:48 PM

      That was my first thought, too... What does the House of Pancakes have to do with this - and do they even know about this?!

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  13. Anonymous7:21 PM

    Wow! She's truly fucked up. Seems like an anti drug ad, but made for revengelicals. This is your brain on christ.

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    1. Anonymous9:10 PM

      I think it's more accurately: 'this is your brain (and soul) on the Anti-christ (the fake one posing as Christ).

      We need to get out the word 24/7 that THIS is the group tied to both Rafael Cruz Sr. and Rafael Cruz Jr. AND, that Cruz Jr. wishes to impose this insanity/demonic behavior on America by force. Theocracy in America is exactly what he's proposing to impose. see http://www.apostasywatch.com/Wolves/WolfReports/MikeBickleIHOP/tabid/83/Default.aspx

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  14. Anonymous7:30 PM

    What the hell?

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  15. Maple7:34 PM

    Jim Jones had nothing on this guy -- simply unbelievable, and even more so that there are such gullible people who follow him.

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  16. Anonymous7:35 PM

    I am more troubled than amazed or amused...
    Getting really worried about all these freaky religious zealots.

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  17. Anonymous7:44 PM

    I think they put some electrical stimmulation patches on these girls and turned them high, so they twitch involuntarily like that.
    Was once at a Physical Therapist who used it on me, and my leg just twitched like heck. He turned the thing down a notch or two, and the twitching stopped.

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    1. Anonymous7:58 PM

      It's not involuntary twitching. I'm not proud of this but I was successfully able to mimic the movements.

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    2. Well congratulations you are now qualified to be an intern at IHOP.

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    3. An European Viewpoint5:56 AM

      They twitch for quite a long time. And they have both about the same rythm, while not looking at each other, and it seems the speaking girl is surprised at how good it feels. I vote for the electric patches.

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  18. Anonymous8:11 PM

    They both have to pee. Desperately.

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  19. The girl must have some amazing abs.

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  20. Anonymous9:55 PM

    Gryphen.. there's only so much of this reality that I can handle...ease up....also, O/T...but yesterday: Paul Revere died.
    Somebody, tell Sarah Palin.

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  21. Anonymous10:24 PM

    That picture was posted by Sarah that time she was in 2 places at once. Something about visiting the folks at Bristol Bay and being at the airport in Anchorage.
    Yowsers, yowsers, yowsers. "If not for Sarah Palin, the Muslim terrorists of ISIS would be in control of Syria"

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  22. Anonymous10:35 PM

    The dude in that silly video is Australian. The really freaky Australian loonies somehow all find a home in the U.S.

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  23. Anonymous12:12 AM

    This is just absolutely painful to watch. Nice way to get attention. However, the other girl didn't get her share--maybe she needs to jerk a little more convincingly.

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  24. Anonymous3:57 AM

    G -

    On opednews.com there is an article by Rob Kall titled - The Power of Charisma - It Can Actually Inhibit Higher Brain Function in "Believers".

    Pat Padrnos

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  25. Anonymous5:24 AM

    "I heard what I call the internal audible voice of Lady GaGa," he has said. He claims that he visited London one night at 2:16 a.m., and the Lady GaGa charged him with preparing for an End Times ministry and seated him in a golden chariot that lifted off into the empyrean." If I wrote the following and tried to force others to believe me, I'd be put in a nut house. Put the magical words Lord, or God, in the same sentence, and Bam! instant credulity. Wake Up Sheeple!

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  26. Chenagrrl8:40 AM

    Guess he missed Matthew 7:15. He would be harmless if he couldn't buy a gun.

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  27. Anonymous11:04 AM

    I would like someone to ask this guy how is he and his religion any different from the jihadist that promise the suicide bombers 70 virgins?

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  28. I don't understand why International House of Pancakes hasn't sued these people for trademark infringement or whatever it would be.

    What's the first thing that pops into your head when *you* read IHOP?

    And you better believe they created the name exactly to cash in on the initials and recognition of the pancake house.

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  29. Anonymous7:53 PM

    Hey Palin. During the rapture, don't forget your old, rhinestone, beauty pageant tiara, being that you are Queen
    Esther and all!

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  30. Anonymous7:59 PM

    Hey Palin. During the rapture, don't forget your old, rhinestone , beauty pageant tiara, being that you are
    Queen Esther and all!

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