Last night, Fox News' Bill O'Reilly finally gave ISIS what it wants: a declaration that the West and Middle East are, indeed, in a holy war.
In a segment titled, “The Holy War Begins,” O'Reilly used the recent murders of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians to slam President Obama's approach to ISIS, and quoted a list of religious leaders, including Roman Catholic Cardinal Timothy Dolan, who warned that ISIS threatens “civilization, everything that is decent and noble about humanity. It is a worldwide crisis that cannot, must not, be ignored.”
O'Reilly then ran through the gamut of this week's right-wing complaints about Obama.
These ranged from critiques of the State Department's Marie Harf's statement that ISIS cannot be defeated solely with military means, to a bizarre critique that the White House somehow did not recognize that the 21 Egyptians murdered by terrorists were Christian. He concluded with the statement that “the Holy War is here and unfortunately it seems the president will be the last one to acknowledge it.”
As Alternet points out this is the culmination of weeks of frothing at the mouth from Fox News hosts and commentators.
Which is easily demonstrated by one of the head mouth frothers, Todd Starnes:
You know - the world would be a much safer place if the Obama administration hated Islamic extremists as much as they do Fox News.
And then there's Franklin Graham:
"His mother was married to a Muslim, his father was a Muslim. Then she married a man from Indonesia. He was raised in Indonesia. Went to Islamic schools. I assume she was a Muslim," Graham said. "So his whole life, his experiences have been surrounded by Islam. He only knows Islam. And he has given a pass to Islam. He is refusing to understand the evil that is in front of him."
You know the President has been very careful to choose his words in order to condemn that acts of these men while not condemning the religion they hide behind.
Which is just what he did again yesterday:
President Barack Obama, speaking at his summit on countering violent extremism Wednesday, sought to strike a balance between appealing for more acceptance of Muslim-Americans while emphasizing the need to remain vigilant against radicals who could turn violent.
"We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam," Obama said during his remarks, adding later that Muslim leaders "need to do more to discredit the notion that our nations are determined to suppress Islam."
Obama went to lengths before the summit began to avoid linking extremism to the Muslim faith; his intent, aides say, was to avoid giving credence to the ideologies of Islamic State or al Qaeda terrorists.
Look as all of you well know I have been aggressively critical of ALL religions on this blog, and I really do think that currently followers of Islam seem to be the most easily directed toward violence in the world.
However what O'Reilly and Fox News are doing is unconscionable in that it plays right into the hands of a group of people who are desperate to create the idea of a war between Christians and Muslims in order to help with recruitment and to justify terrorists acts.
It seems to me that these agitators could care less if their rhetoric results in the deaths of more American soldiers, prolongs the conflict with ISIS, or inspires terrorist attacks in America.
All they care about is pandering to the fears of their base, and attempting to undermine the President's attempts to approach these complicated issues like a grown up.
Personally I think that if Todd Starnes, Franklin Graham, and Bill O'Reilly are so anxious to start a holy war that we need to outfit them with a crucifix, a rifle, and a Bible and send their flabby asses to the front line where they can all become martyrs for the cause.
Add Pat Robertson and Queen Esther, please?
ReplyDeletePat Robertson is too concerned with our desire to marry our dog- seriously.
Deletesounds like their 'little plan' is blowing up as we type!
Deleteoh all fall down...we can't go to war...bellow in your bourbon baby!
Was FucktardGraham not invited to the prayer breakfast or what?
DeleteHe has his panties in a wad? So what if POTUS MOTHER was married to a Muslim? Who the fuck cares? I wish to the goddess that jesus would come back and turn the tables over on these hopeless fakers and grifters!!!
Go to directly to hell, do not pass go, do not collect $200 GRIFTERS!!!!
And BOR is just a hopeless pinhead. :(
Fox News Brings War Criminal Rumsfeld On To Discuss War Crimes
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Pentagon marks 50th anniversary of Viet Nam war with multi-million dollar re-write of history
http://warisacrime.org/content/pentagon-marks-50th-anniversary-viet-nam-war-multi-million-dollar-re-write-history
Who in their right mind would fall for this again?
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Republicans are itching for another war.
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-jeb-bush-list-of-advisers-should.html
Adding religion to the mix takes it up several notches from McCarthyism.
ReplyDeleteFrom wiki
The term McCarthyism, coined in 1950 in reference to McCarthy's practices, was soon applied to similar anti-communist activities. Today the term is used more generally in reference to demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents.
This really speaks to the utter strategic incompetence of conservative thinking. Keeping ISIS separated from Islam is important because it allows for the possibility of other Muslims helping us fight them or at least leaving them the option to not get involved.
ReplyDeleteIf you lump them all together as "the enemy", then you're actually FORCING them to choose sides with ISIS, basically enlarging their forces by several orders of magnitude.
Fucking traitorous, political morans.
it's a money game people...watch the stock markets...when those 'leaders' speak of 'peaceful solutions' the arms dealers bellow in their bourbon whining about war. actually this will bring more money to your portfolio you fock heads...the order is spread wide like a glide baby! now go take a nap and shut the fock up!
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DeleteWell, if it makes me money and helps me retire comfortably, I have to say I'm for it.
So the rabid right is just as determined to drag us into a religious war as are ISIS and Bibi. And they ALL think Jesus is going to come riding in on a white horse to save the righteous? Gonna be some surprised faces at the gates of hell.
ReplyDeleteIncreasingly I see no difference between Islamist extremists and faux-Christian extremists. And Bill O'Reilly and his other friends at Fox are as bad as any Muslim warmonger in the Middle East.
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I agree with you Beaglemom, except I would say ANY extremist! Islamist, Faux Christian. Christian. Atheist. ANY of the extremists are trouble.
DeleteAs I have repeatedly said, fanaticism for ANY reason is dangerous.
Thank goodness that we have a level headed, intelligent, reasoning man serving as President during these trying times. Not being connected to any recognized religion, I have no desire to have my military son martyred.
ReplyDeleteyea and the rethuglicans are foaming at the mouth those war mongers...meanwhile longshore man keep the arms in containers on the west coast due to strike! gee hasn't dick cheney had a heart attack over that yet?oh right those are the 'dummy' containers...real ones on the east coast...wink wink
DeleteThe religious right in the states has used the same narrative since 9/11. It is sick when a news group deigns to appeal to the lowest of the low for ratings and fear mongering. Once again, in my mind ISIL or whatever it calls itself is a perversion of power marketed as a religion. To someone like myself who believes religion is not the answer I just see the ramping up of insanity. We are going to see a lot more of this behavior as resources become scarcer in this rapidly changing and more complex world. People who are emotionally or intellectually unable to cope or think quickly on their feet will look to these lunatics for empowerment.
ReplyDeleteGreat comment, thanks.
DeleteMore total bullshit from O'Reilly at Fox! He should be done away with due to making this proclamation directly after President Obama gave his wonderful speech of explanation to the country!
ReplyDeleteFuck O'Reilly and the others on FOX! They do nothing but harm our country and make us look awful to the rest of the world!
fixed it ...
ReplyDelete"In a segment titled, “The Holy War Begins,” O'Reilly used the recent murders of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians to slam President Obama's approach to ISIS, and quoted a list of religious leaders, including Roman Catholic Cardinal Timothy Dolan, who warned that ISIS and fundamentalist domestic talibanesque KKKrystians threatens “civilization, everything that is decent and noble about humanity. It is a worldwide crisis that cannot, must not, be ignored.”
Timothy Dolan is universally recognized as being a fool.
DeleteWhat about all the hard working, tax paying, honest Americans of Muslim faith? This only serves to further isolate them more and open up some very dangerous ways to justify some wingnut, gun loving, pos moron in this country to take matters into their ignorant hands...this is bad, very very bad..
ReplyDeleteAmerican Muslims need to see the light and move away from religion, here in this society where we allow freedom from religion. Too many are tied to a religion that they no longer need, they are under no threat here, so give it up and live free from religion! That's what America is all about! You don't have to believe that bullshit and bow down 5 times a day to a made up god, just let it go.
DeleteYes, exactly right, we've already seen that with the lunatic murderer that killed a bunch of people in a SIKH TEMPLE!
DeleteCletus apparently never read a book, went to school, or if he did go to school, they did away with studying other religions, world affairs, foreign countries, sex education, STEM, and focussed on ChristoFascist god, guns and bible study.
I wonder if O'Reilly realizes that the more you marginalize the moderate and liberal Muslims, the more likely some are going to be to go all Jihad in retaliation.
Golly gee!! Just like what happened in Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Palestine!
Who woulda thought THAT could ever happen?
it's all good...the one person who can make or break the world is on humanity's side...no matter what crap they throw to the wall THIS TIME...don't worry...be happy...it's a coming real real soon...be patient...
Delete217 yes and yet the headgames and excursions they put on humanity to 'see what will happen' has turned up in their face and shit on their lap already..things are not what they seem or what they try to 'rope' us into believing...remember that now...
DeleteWhat has always frosted me about this bs notion that the President is really a secret Mooslim is this - when it suited the Right's crazy conspiracy ideas, he was a white hating, perverse Christian who worshiped at the Church of the American hating Christian Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Yep, he listened to all that Christian nonsense every Sunday in that church for years.
ReplyDeleteBut now he is obviously a cowardly Muslim who won't say anything bad about his fellow terrorists and chooses to bomb them instead of fight them on the ground, chooses to not call them Islamic terrorists like everyone at FOX and purposefully leaves our borders undefended so ISIS can just waltz in and kill us all. With Ebola and the measles.
You can't have it both ways bat shit crazy Right Wingers. Pick a lane for crying out loud.
A Fan From Chicago
"Pick a lane for crying out loud."
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So true. Just like the president is a boy, a manchild, in over his head, incompetent, inexperienced, and at the same exact time, he is a Manchurian candidate, with the ability to plot ingenious secret schemes over decades to take over and destroy the United States from within, mwahahahaha. As you said, can they please pick a lane?
I so wish President Obama could serve another term. We will be in trouble without him at the helm of our country!
Delete12:44 PM Christians are becoming less and less in numbers throughout the USA although the 'right' is having a difficult time accepting it!
ReplyDeleteMany Americans could care less what Bill O'Reilly has to say and I stand among them!
Bill is a guilt-ridden lapsed Catholic that likes to run his mouth and sexually assault women. He's not lacking in intelligence but he's a mental mess.
DeleteIf in fact FEMA camps do exist, I think I know a
ReplyDeleteway to make good use of them, if you catch my drift.
I'd say let's round up all of the religious people in the US and starve them until they say "uncle". Did I guess correctly?
DeleteGreat catch! You win the turkey. ;-)
DeleteIf it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is probably a duck.
ReplyDeleteThat must be too hard for Dumbo and his war-mongering lieges to figure out.
If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it must be a religious Christian fanatic from Duck Dynasty.
DeleteIf it fucks like a rabbit, has kids while still a teenager, and has parents who forbid condoms, sex ed, guidance, oversight, or care,then it must be a kid from a "christian" household in a red state.
DeleteBristol?
Willow?
If that idiot in the White House had half-a-brain he'd figure out that it is none of our business. But no, he's just a blood-thirsty son-of-a-bitch looking to kill people.
ReplyDeleteHe needs to get his dumb ass out of Syria, out of Ukraine and all the other places he is screwing with.
Look in the mirror and you will see your IDIOT!!
DeleteIf that idiot George Bush in the White House had half-a-brain he'd have figured out that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction, but no, he was just a blood-thirsty son-of-a-bitch looking to kill US military personnel (and Iraqis civilian and otherwise).
DeleteBut hey, patriotism right? Most of us would never dream of letting our kids be bomb fodder for these wars, but damn, the right wingers just keep sending out their kids to be blown up. What if every parent in America said "no more" and stopped supporting the war effort with their flesh and blood?
Deleteyeah bush authorized 9-11 what a winner!
DeleteYou all will have blood on your hands, war pigs.
DeleteI wonder if the President's visit to Alaska has anything to do with Syria? You know...since Palin kept yammering on about the Middle East...cough...
Delete521 you mean that trillion dollar secret stashed in AK
Deletewhen someone is worth a lot of money people will say and do anything to keep it...birthright owner...
"HOLY WAR !!!"
ReplyDeleteBill O'Reilly creates fantastic RECRUITING propaganda for ISIS. The murderous barbarian perverters of Islam couldn't have hoped for better!
ok...one more time...pass this on...
DeleteISIS = USA created...and managed and funded...
Politicians and Business are sleeping together..again!
This time the 'good time girl' is ISIS...oh she travels and goes 'places' that 'excite' those rich sick minds!
Now if the long shore workers can stop traffic?
What can we do?
We have the internet...stop whining and start looking!
Research...send emails and call those businesses that send arms overseas and supplies to those ISIS.
There is who you need to put your energy into...
Bust their chops and expose them...
Make a you tube video about what you found out?
Now get to work already on it!
Ask yourself if ( fill in the blank) people investigated the origins of ISIS what would you all find out?
I hope O'Reilly gets his...he's going to need a lot of security....he's basically calling for a Holy War knowing full well what can happen to our country. He is an ass!
Delete228 I know - right? Dumbass he is...shake of head..
Delete“...the Holy War is here and unfortunately it seems the president will be the last one to acknowledge it.”
ReplyDeleteForget the "holy war" being waged by ISIS. Worry more about the holy war in THIS country being waged against our fellow citizens. ISIS is a mere distraction so folks won't notice what the Mormons and our own American Taliban are sneaking in the back door. Too many of our youngest and brightest are being brainwashed by these zealots.
Too many of our youngest and brightest are being brainwashed by Christians of all stripes.
DeleteAnd don't forget the real sneakers, those Buddhists and Hindus.
The religious right are ramping up their efforts to instill religion in our government because the younger generations, my own included, have said "thanks but no thanks" to their brainwashing. The only way to push religion now is through government, because most people under 40 aren't buying what they are selling and instead are revealing the truth behind the hatefulness of religious practice.
DeleteCase in point, the latest Jehovah's Witness scandals and revelations. People are no longer willing to sit quietly as religious people rape them and abuse them and brainwash them. Religion is dying, gasping its last breath, at least here in America, and that scares the shit out of those in charge of the scams.
I won't answer the door when the 'religious' folks come a knockin! i.e. Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses
DeleteChristian numbers are dropping in America and it's wonderful seeing! What crap they spew!
I expect to see an uprising in the USA and I know I'll be a part. Hate this religious crude that is being forced down our throats!
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DeleteThey have to travel a quarter mile down my driveway past 3 No Trespassing signs, so I tend to greet them at the door with a shotgun.
Just a bunch of ideologically brainwashed idiots finding doing some navel-gazing. Nothing to see here.
ReplyDeletePoor Bill O'Reilly still yearning for those halcyon days when non-existent weapons of mass destruction could entice an alliance to bomb Iraq into being a hot bed of Islamist terrorism.
ReplyDeletePersonally I think that if Todd Starnes, Franklin Graham, and Bill O'Reilly are so anxious to start a holy war that we need to outfit them with a crucifix, a rifle, and a Bible and send their flabby asses to the front line where they can all become martyrs for the cause.
ReplyDeleteTHAT WORKS FOR ME!!!!
And they can take John McCain, Lindsay Graham and a few other members of Congress along with them. And, if captured, we will do nothing to help them.
DeleteBeaglemom
Our current era seems to be a critical point for world religions. In the first world religion is on the wane and religious "leaders" are doing all they can to fleece a new flock that seems very unwilling to believe in fairytales.
ReplyDeleteIn the third world, specifically the Middle East and other Muslim countries they are entrenched in an era of forced religion, under threat of death, and until the masses can make a united front and defeat their religious leaders then they will further fall into the abyss of history instead of progressing as nations.
Of course, if it weren't for oil we'd have nothing to do with these ass backwards cretins but unfortunately our Government is owned by the ass backwards and oil possessing religious freaks and we'll either kowtow to them or blow them off the face of the earth.
At least as far as religion goes, America seems to be moving forward and away from religion, but many other parts of the world are regressing.
Balzafiar @ 1:06 pm, I agree. Unfortunately history has shown that progress comes in the form of one step forward and two steps back.
ReplyDeleteThe entrenched, unscrupulous regressives will thwart progress with increasingly furious lies in order to win, no matter the cost. This includes religions of all sorts as well as international corporations, all of whom push the fear factor of average consumers of their ideologies/products to the maximum. Reasoned discussion has no place in this and dogmatic, paranoid paranoid propaganda rules.
They will have their perpetual wars and renewed conscription is not far off.
allright who hid the lithium...I am not happy and this is not funny! lol...giggle...
ReplyDeleteWell it is...but don't tell fox fockers that...they will shit their pants on the air...
the SCHEME is money and control and 'those families' of the world that 'think' and 'believe' their way is the highway for humanity...
what's gonna happen when you know who pulls all files and funds and conglomerates the money in one account?
can anyone say 'global depression' and the worst in history?
so to avoid that collision we must 'work together' and stop being a 'spoiled brat' about what you cannot have or get...
For one you don't need it and I can think of a dozen who do!
Now pop that in your coffee cup and take a slug of reality!
Mother Jones Questions Bill O’Reilly’s ‘Inconsistent’ War Stories
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mediaite.com/online/mother-jones-questions-bill-oreillys-inconsistent-war-stories/
What have the trolls been into? They are doing incoherent rants tonight.
ReplyDeleteWhat is this idiot doing? Even W was smart enough (well, maybe it was his advisers) to use the word "crusade" only once or twice after 9/11. What does Jebbie say about this? Is McCain singing, "Bomb, bomb, bomb. bomb, bomb Iran" again? I really don't understand war-mongers.
ReplyDeleteThis article is a must read: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/bill-oreilly-brian-williams-falklands-war
ReplyDeleteBill O'Reilly has lied lied lied about being a heroic reporter who was almost killed in the midst of wars at least three times. Billo represents only one hour of Fox News where they all lie lie lie.
Probably Obama is too busy fighting that War on Christmas to announce the beginning of the next Crusade.
ReplyDeleteEffin' lizard-brained conservatives have been dancing to the drums of Islamic radicals since 9/11 - and haven't learned a thing.
Considering that Faux News established in a court of law that they are not a "News" organization but only a cable entertainment organization, so that they were not found guilty in a lawsuit, I don't think that Bully O should be talking about any Crusade.
ReplyDeleteAnd if he wants to go fight with ISIL, I'll be happy to hold his coat.