Sunday, February 22, 2015

Former CBS correspondent who was with Bill O'Reilly in Buenos Aires calls bullshit on his version of events.

This comes to us courtesy of former CBS reporter Eric Jon Engberg's Facebook page:  

I can provide some eyewitness information on this matter because I was one of the correspondents in Buenos Aires with O'Reilly and the rest of the rather large staff of CBS News people who were there "covering" the war. To begin with "covering" is an overstatement of what we were doing. Corn is correct in pointing out that the Falkland Islands, where the combat between Great Britain and Argentina took place, was a thousand miles away from Buenos Aires. We were in Buenos Aires because that's the only place the Argentine military junta would let journalists go. Our knowledge of the war was restricted to what we could glean from comically deceitful daily briefings given by the Argentine military and watching government-controlled television to try to pick up a useful clue from propaganda broadcasts. We -- meaning the American networks -- were all in the same, modern hotel and we never saw any troops, casualties or weapons. It was not a war zone or even close. It was an "expense account zone."  

("Expense account zone." That sounds substantially less dangerous than "war zone.".)

O'Reilly, freshly hired by CBS, arrived in Buenos Aires a few days before the British expeditionary force defeated the Argentine occupiers. He was, as he is today, full of brio and confidence. I remember him asking me how I liked my assignment. When I said I was tired of living in a hotel and wanted to go home he said, "Call your agent." Back in those days calling your agent to complain about the company's decision-making would have been a career-ender, but he didn't seem to understand matters of the CBS internal secret wooglies, which included the rule that you did as you were told. I should have known he was headed for trouble, but I just thought he was a rookie who would learn. Yeah, right. 

Within a couple of days of his arrival the British Army and Marines had completed their land assault on the Falklands capital and forced the Argentines to surrender. The Argentine public, who had been living under a murderous, corrupt military government for years, were driven into the streets of their capital by rage over the loss of a war they had been repeatedly told their army was winning. As night fell after the surrender statement, several thousand people gathered in the streets around the presidential palace to protest. All the members of the CBS reporting staff and all the two-person camera crews we had in Buenos Aires were sent in to the street. I believe there were four or five crews. The reporters, as I remember, were O'Reilly, Chuck Gomez, Charles Krause, Bob Schieffer and myself. Somewhere it has been reported that O'Reilly has claimed he was the only CBS News reporter who had the courage to go into the street because the rest of us were hiding in our hotel. If he said such thing it is an absolute lie. Everyone was working in the street that night, the crews exhibiting their usual courage. O'Reilly was the one person who behaved unprofessionally and without regard for the safety of the camera crew he was leading. 

(Wait. So Bill O'Reilly WASN'T the bravest, most gosh darn professional newscaster in Buenos Aires during the end of the Falkands war? Say it ain't so Billo!)

The CBS bureau chief in Buenos Aires, Larry Doyle, an ex-Marine LRRP, was something of a legend among CBSers because of his personal courage and his knowledge about how to do your job without exposing yourself to undue danger. Early that night in Buenos Aires he assembled the camera crews in our hotel newsroom and instructed them to refrain from using the lights on their cameras while around crowds. Television lights attracted potentially violent people and also made the camera-person an easier target for demonstrators throwing rocks. We all knew that the Argentine public was angry at the U.S. for supporting Britain in the war, so American journalists might become a target for mob violence. So, O'Reilly has been correct in describing the situation in Buenos Aires as somewhat dicey for reporters. If he was nervous, I can see why. 

The riot around the presidential palace was actually short-lived. It consisted mostly of chanting, fist-shaking and throwing coins at the uniformed soldiers who were assembled outside the palace. I did not see any police attacks against demonstrators. According to Doyle, O'Reilly returned to the hotel in a rage over the fact that his cameraman wouldn't turn on the lights to photograph angry crowds. Doyle defended the cameraman and chewed out O'Reilly for violating his instructions on lights. When Doyle looked at the tape shot by O'Reilly's cameraman he saw that the video included stand-ups -- on camera description by the reporter -- which O'Reilly had ordered the cameraman to shoot -- with his light on. Doyle was further upset by this tape, which clearly showed that his orders on lights had been unilaterally violated by O'Reilly. The issue here was safety. 

(What? Bill O'Reilly defied orders? Shocked, that's what I am, shocked!)

CBS was doing a late night re-cap of the Falkland's story. As always the Buenos Aires bureau had no combat video footage to offer, so our part of the special would be the demonstrations, which had been well covered by three or four camera crews, including the one working with O'Reilly. All that footage was blended into the main story, narrated by Schieffer, who had been in Buenos Aires for weeks as the anchor on the scene. When Doyle informed O'Reilly that Schieffer would be doing the report, which would not include any segment from O'Reilly, the reporter exploded. "I didn't come down here to have my footage used by that old man," he shouted. Doyle was stunned. First O'Reilly had defiantly ordered a cameraman to disregard his orders on using lights, and now he was claiming the right to do a story the producers had decided should be done by the senior correspondent on the scene, Schieffer. This confrontation led the next day to O'Reilly being ordered out of Argentina by the CBS bosses. Doyle had told them O'Reilly was a "disruptive force" who threatened his bureau's morale and cohesion. 

(So O'Reilly was ordered out of Argentina early? Interesting how that part of the story was left out in O'Reilly's imaginative retelling.)

I remember looking on a monitor at the long stand-up O'Reilly ordered his crew to shoot, which was never used on the air. He shot this description in the middle of a clearly angry, chanting crowd. As a reporter I wondered why he would think he needed video of himself standing in the middle of the crowd when his own crew and others had taken plenty of good crowd pictures that didn't have O'Reilly standing in the middle of the frame blocking the action. You don't shoot a long stand-up when you have plenty of good pictures of the event you are covering. What O'Reilly was doing was in the realm of local news. I didn't know at the time that he had also violated the bureau chief's order on use of lights, but I wondered why would any correspondent would imperil his colleagues by turning on lights during a riot. 

O'Reilly has said he was in a situation in Argentina where "my photographer got run down and hit his head and was bleeding from the ear on the concrete and the army was chasing us." The only place where such an injury could have occurred was the relatively tame riot I have described above. Neither Doyle, who would have been immediately informed of injury to any CBS personnel, nor anyone else who was working the story remembers a cameraman being injured that night. No one who reported back to our hotel newsroom after the disturbance was injured; if a cameraman had been "bleeding from the ear" he would have immediately reported that to his superiors at the hotel. This part of O'Reilly's Argentina story is not credible without further confirmation, and O'Reilly should identify the cameraman by name so he can be questioned about the alleged injury. 

(Any body want to lay odds on whether or not O'Reilly will volunteer this cameraman's name?)

The gunfire reported by O'Reilly is equally suspicious. One of our camera crews reported that they believed the Argentine police or army had fired a few rubber bullets at the crowd. That was the only report we received of weapons being fired that night. The crowd had been confined to a relatively small area around the president's palace. It wasn't like there were protests going on all over the city. I did see soldiers armed with rifles on guard around the presidential palace. But they did not take aim at the crowd and I heard no gunfire. No one I talked to as the crowd was breaking up told me they heard gunfire. O'Reilly's claim that the army fired weapons into the crowd is not supported by anyone's recollection. Had that happened, I believe, the riot would have escalated into an uncontrollable attack on government buildings all over the capital. Nothing like that happened. Actually, the military chiefs, yielding to the public outcry over the war's outcome, were willing to give up their offices, which they did the next day.

Engberg goes on to say that O'Reilly  is purposefully misrepresenting what happened in Buenos Aires to "burnish his credentials as war correspondent, but that virtually nothing he reported was backed up by the facts.

O'Reilly phoned into Fox's Mediabuzz program today to bitch about Engberg's statements and to essentially call him a liar. 

That means that this story is going to get even further media scrutiny and that can only mean bad news for Billo and good news for the rest of us.

Gee, does anybody else REALLY miss Stephen Colbert right about now?

48 comments:

  1. Anonymous12:04 PM

    there is saying what is good for the goose is good for the gander, but with many things republican -- 'not okay if democrat but it's okay if you are a republican' seems to be the motto.

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  2. Anonymous12:05 PM

    Billo the ButtKKKlown!

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    1. Anonymous2:01 PM

      Billo the ButtKKKlown Bullyboy Bloivator

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    2. Anonymous3:07 PM

      Isn't Bill the one that used the term 'bloviate' all the time? And, now we're turning it's usage back to fit him!

      I looked up the word in my dictionaries and cannot find it. Tried to spell it every which way I could think of and it is nowhere to be found.

      Do you think he made up the word?

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    3. The Falafel King strikes again!

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    4. Anonymous4:56 PM

      Billo is also the Loofah King!

      Just google Bill OReilly and Loofah King.

      He's a Sofa King also too!

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    5. Leland4:07 AM

      @3:07

      No, he didn't make it up. Google it and get all the definition sites you want.

      However, Mirriam-WEbster says "to speak or write verbosely and windily" Fits HIM quite nicely, don't you think?

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  3. People on Twitter are not letting Bill get away with this and are tweeting and re-tweeting these stories, etc. The hypocrisy of Brian Williams being forced to take a six month leave for lying and now this coming out about Bill....Hmmmm....Me thinks that Fox is going to have to do the same deal with Bill if they want to be "Fair and Balanced" or at least perceived as such. But we all know that will not happen. I hope this story continues to build and build, and Bill spouts off and says something unimaginatinvely stupid that will stop everybody in their tracks. Even more Stupid than his usual talking points that will truly make Fox realize that they will have to shut him down once and for all.

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    1. Anonymous12:49 PM

      We all need to send messages of facts (proven lies) to the bosses over BillO! He needs to be fired, or AT LEAST given the same treatment as Brian Williams in order for them to obtain positive thoughts of their network!

      Be sure and tell them what you think of FOX News as a whole! Include in your comments thoughts of the manly woman (never can remember her name!) and Hannity!

      I think their network truly sucks!

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    2. $carah Payme?

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  4. Anonymous12:14 PM

    What a self-promoting buffoon. Let’s see if Fox dumps him.

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  5. Boscoe12:25 PM

    Yawn. Next step is Billo doubling and tripling down on his story and then conflating it into some form of "left-wing conspiracy" against not only himself, but ALL conservatives.

    He will never admit anything, he will never step down.

    That's pretty much the genetic difference between a conservative and a "librul meediah eeleeet"; when the non-conservative gets called out on a lie, they admit their mistake and accept their punishment like a man. The conservative? Not so much.

    And the other conservative cowards will close ranks, because they know if Billo goes down, none of them are safe.

    And no, I don't suspect we'll be hearing anything more about the injured cameraman.

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    1. Anonymous1:10 PM

      Billo will continue to yell louder and louder and blame the left-wing conspiracy. The louder he gets, they stupider he looks.

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    2. Anonymous2:17 PM

      The Falklands war "journalism" was controlled by the belligerents. Reporters laughed at what they were being told by the Argentine forces.

      Using the Falklands as an example of your war experience is so pathetically asinine, that it fits Bill O'Reilly's personality to a tee.

      BUT, Bill got a free ride for a long time, because he's not worth the hassle. Until recently. Like maybe shortly after Bill gave his on-air opinion of Brian Williams exposure. Cause and effect? You decide!

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    3. From http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/22/media/cbs-staffers-oreilly-argentina/

      "In a Friday interview with radio host Hugh Hewitt, O'Reilly said the photographer's last name was Moreno. Roberto Moreno was there for CBS. He now lives in Venezuela, and he declined to comment to CNN.

      But Mia Fabius, who was the office manager for the CBS Miami bureau at the time, has stayed in touch with Moreno for decades, and she said Moreno has never spoken about any injury in Argentina.

      Further, Fabius said no injury report was ever filed."

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  6. Anonymous12:31 PM

    There is hope. Omg ! I am glad no I am delighted! It's feels so good to see these arrogant asswipes , exposed.
    Still many gullible folks that are mean and nasty that love them.

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  7. hauksdottir12:41 PM

    Billy has always been a narcissistic bloviating liar. He truly believes that he is untouchable. At Fox, he might be, simply because of all the eyeballs his faux outrage brings to the advertisers. Even that 11 million dollar judgement his bosses paid to his sexual harassment victim wasn't too expensive if it kept Billy on the air.

    The ONLY way to deal with him is to boycott the advertisers who air on his program, let those corporations know their products are tainted by his venom, and park their eyeballs elsewhere, watching someone else's ads. The bottom line speaks, just as it did for Glenn Beck and his frothing.

    When Fox loses money and watchers, the PTB will set Billy's feet to the fire before handing him his walking papers... not until.

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    1. Anonymous1:51 PM

      Boycott the advertisers by using the Boycott Rush Playbook. I'm in!! I've been part of the Flush Rush since it started.

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    2. Anonymous3:03 PM

      Can someone list his advertisers? I never watch FOX....for those that might tune into him once in awhile...can you share the names so we can ALL boycott them! He so badly needs to be taken off the air FOREVER!

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  8. Anonymous12:41 PM

    I hope the buffoon is brought down and soon! He continues to lie even when the truth is put in front of his face!

    People need to stop watching his un-American, tresonist show as well as boycott advertisers that provide him support. If they even do at FOX? Have no clue because I never watch any of their shows!

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  9. Anonymous12:42 PM

    Hannity should be the next one that is gone after - for all of his lies! Remember how he use to support Sarah Palin and lied to the nation about her? Oh, what fun that would be!!!

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  10. He's jerk12:53 PM

    He reminds me of a certain republican clown, when criticized he throws out a bunch of strawmen to knock down, and tries to bluster over the actual charge. He DID say he saw combat and was in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands. He DID say he was "in Argentina, in the Falklands". What an insult to all the real servicemen we know who did, or will, see combat. On another board a soldier pointed out that they didn't use M 16's in that war. You know, like the one that was pointed at OReilly's head, as the army was "chasing them".

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    1. Ordered out of Argentina early? Hey, just like PINO Shrub's entitled daughters.

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  11. Anonymous12:54 PM

    And here's another takedown of Gouliani, also too!

    .... Well, Mr. Former Mayor, you’re right! President Obama wasn’t brought up, well, like you anyway.

    But then again neither was I nor most other Americans.

    For starters, my father, like Barack Obama’s father — and 99% of other American fathers — never knocked over a milkman at gunpoint like your dad did, Rudy.

    And while the President’s grandfather, uncle, my father, uncles, brother, cousins, husband and millions of other parents wore and still wear uniforms of the armed forces, your father wore a prison uniform.

    OK, like you, I was born in Brooklyn of Italian stock, and moved with my family to Long Island when I was a kid. But that’s where our shared upbringing ends.

    But, unlike you, I always knew that the kid at Sunday dinner was my cousin — therefore not someone I would want to marry.

    See, my father, Anthony J. Stasi, worked his way through school and then broke his ass every day as a sanitation man, working his way up to supervisor, while always holding down a part-time job in a drugstore at night.

    Your father, Harold Giuliani, was a violent enforcer for a loan shark.

    As for love, whether it’s of country or family — seriously, Rudy?

    You can’t talk love when your divorce lawyer humiliated your wife and children by saying they should leave Gracie Mansion so your mistress could move in.

    A man who loves his country doesn’t appoint his former chauffeur, a thug, as police commissioner.

    Nor would he misuse the NYPD to chauffeur around that same mistress nor walk her dog.

    A man who loves even himself wouldn’t appoint the sons of his backer, Ray Harding (a crook), to top jobs without qualifications; one of whom went on to use city monies for vacations and to surf child-porn sites.

    Before 9/11, which made you a millionaire, Rudy, your approval rating was 50%. After 9/11 you became “America’s mayor.” Still, you crashed and burned as a presidential candidate.

    Now? You sound like a guy desperate to become mayor again, or to even just be relevant once more. But the way you’re going? You aren’t worthy of my father’s old entry-level sanitation job. That job requires humility and honor — qualities sorely missing from your résumé.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/mayor-rudy-giuliani-proves-crude-dude-article-1.2124402

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    1. Anonymous1:58 PM

      Bravo! I love your father! Mine worked days in a rubber factory and nights in a bar to help make ends meet. He worshiped the ground my mother walked on and never missed a school event and took us for ice cream and movies. Bill and Rudy are not honorable enough to even shovel the snow from our sidewalks or the dog shit in the front yard.

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  12. Anonymous1:00 PM

    I remember how he lied about calling Dr. Tiller "Tiller the Baby Killer" over and over, Tiller, the one who was assassinated in church. He tried to say he had only quoted other people, but he was outed with simple google searches.

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    1. Anonymous3:02 PM

      Yes, Bill O has blood on his hands from the Tiller murder, just as his protege Mrs. Todd Palin has blood on her hands from the Tucson massacre. They are lying peas from the same lying pod of hate.

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  13. Anonymous1:04 PM

    The bigger their egos are, the harder they fall.

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  14. Anonymous1:09 PM

    Bill O'Reilly Goes Ballistic On Eric Engberg, David Corn, Calls Bob Schieffer A 'Plagiarist'

    http://crooksandliars.com/2015/02/bill-oreilly-goes-ballistic-eric-engberg

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    1. Anonymous4:49 PM

      >>>Calls Bob Schieffer A 'Plagiarist'<<<

      Sounds like libel or slander! One or the other!

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  15. Anonymous1:13 PM

    Looking into Engberg, you find out that he is not exactly a truth-teller. You also have to wonder why Engberg refused to go on O'Reilly's show. Or why O'Reilly requested the tapes from CBS to confirm his story.
    Then you have to wonder why nearly every post here is almost identical to Engberg's Facebook page along with every other page from the Democratic mafiosos hit squad pages.

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    1. Anonymous1:42 PM

      Bill O'Reilly lied out his ass. Period.

      I'm not sure how anyone can not see that.

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    2. Anonymous1:44 PM

      "Democratic mafiosos hit squad pages"

      Where do you people come up with this stuff? It's hilarious!

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    3. Anonymous1:44 PM

      Oh, the concern you have. It's so endearing. "You have to wonder" is so touching. Why, it's almost as if you think without your kind intervention, people might look at the facts and draw their own conclusions.

      O'Reilly decides who's in the "kill zone". He's a big boy, no need for you to nursemaid him.

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    4. Anonymous2:11 PM

      You're right. No one has to wonder. The guy won't go on because he is afraid of the heat, to have his words scrutinized, and his story torn apart. The guy is a liberal operative and like all liberals he can only name-call and lie and will ignore any and all facts. Every liberal on the face of the earth is deaf to anything that doesn't fit into their anti-natural nonsense. It doesn't matter the subject, liberal are brainwashed by every stupid unnatural idea known to man.
      So you're right, no need to wonder, everyone knows you are useful idiots to useless idiots.
      You are the least likely people to be endearing to any intelligent being and clearly would be unable to draw a logical conclusion about anything. All you know is what you are fed - second hand slop.

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    5. Anonymous2:12 PM

      Engberg has stated that he didn't go on BillO's show because he didn't want to go on O'Reilly's turf and be shouted down. In other words, he wants to communicate in a reasonable, respectful way. Like an adult. Who could blame him.

      BillO has a long, well-earned reputation for bullying anyone who crossed him. He's cut the microphones, terminated interviews, and simply out-shouted his guests numerous times. In an inconceivable display of rudeness, he even interrupted and talked over the President repeatedly. I can't see any sensible person agreeing to be treated like that.

      BillO just wants it both ways. He wants to abuse his guests and then he wants to criticize people who refuse to be his guest. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. You get to pick one, but only one.

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    6. Anonymous2:27 PM

      You sound insane 2:11.

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    7. Anonymous2:32 PM

      2:11 concern troll is concerned

      Bill O'Reilly must be really hard up for defenders.

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    8. Anonymous3:00 PM

      We done broke the troll!

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    9. Anonymous3:32 PM

      Now that's original 2:27, 2:32, 3:00
      Insane, troll, troll.
      Simply pathetic.

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    10. Anonymous3:51 PM

      ...anti-natural nonsense... unnatural idea

      as unnatural as falafel porn

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    11. Anonymous7:37 PM

      BWAHAHAHAHA, the fake name troll has been Stalking a stranger's Facebook pages again. What's next, pictures of his kids like you post of the Palins?
      Get a life, pigface.

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  16. Anonymous1:25 PM

    Just as with Sarah Palin and all other narcissists, they're telling the truth and the witnesses against them are all liars and guttersnipes who share an agenda, or the attack is actually against all who agree with them and they're just the chosen victim for being a highly visible target. I don't believe for a moment that Fox will do anything that resembles the honorable thing. If they can find any way - no matter how outrageous (and perhaps the more outrageous the better) - to paint Billo as a victim and defend him, they will. If he can weather this while appearing in some way - any way - to be a victim of the left, he will emerge as a victorious hero to his feces flinging fans, and the No Spine Zone will be further enshrined in their lizard brains.

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  17. Anonymous1:27 PM

    Now if these so called investigators looking into Williams and the Clown took a long look at the evidence regarding a certain ex politician's six week pregnancy we could see the real fireworks!!

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    1. Anonymous7:22 PM

      How right you are.

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  18. Anonymous1:29 PM

    So everyone who remembers things differently is lying . . . . Mmmm. Bill O'Reilly is such a jerk. He really belongs on Fox.
    Beaglemom

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  19. Anonymous2:47 PM

    Has Fox ever taken steps to stop lies or liars on any of their broadcasts? O'Reilly fits the job requirements for Fox and Fox's tolerance of liars fits BOR's personality. Fox will probably view this mess as a ratings boost.

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  20. Anonymous10:12 PM

    The Domino effect. the chickens have come home to roost. lets hope this continues thru the elections! not only did the craziest wake up and decide palins an idiot now they're going after the lying talking heads on Tv who prop up and support these crooked politicions.

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