Tuesday, May 12, 2015

Jeb Bush claims that even knowing what we know now he would have invaded Iraq.

Courtesy of RT:  

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said that he would have authorized the 2003 invasion of Iraq even if he knew then what he knows now, the potential presidential contender said in an interview with Fox News. 

The comment was made after Fox News host Megyn Kelly asked Bush if he would have still authorized the war “knowing what we know now.” 

“I would have, and so would have Hillary Clinton, just to remind everybody. And so would almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got,” Bush responded. 

“You don’t think it was a mistake?” Kelly asked afterwards. 

At this point, Bush acknowledged that the invasion was based on “faulty” intelligence but did not back down from his initial answer. 

“In retrospect, the intelligence that everybody saw – that the world saw, not just the United States – was faulty,” he said. “In retrospect, once we invaded and took out Saddam Hussein, we didn’t focus on security first. The Iraqis, in this incredibly insecure environment, turned on the United States military because there was no security for themselves and their family.” 

“By the way, guess who thinks that those mistakes took place as well? George W. Bush. So just for the news flash to the world, if they’re trying to find places where there’s big space between me and my brother, this might not be one of those.”

I have heard a couple of pundits suggest that Jebbie misheard the question, or that he didn't take time to think it through before answering, but it seems to me that the question was pretty damn clear.

And Jeb expanded on his answer in a way that suggests that it was not the decision to go into Iraq that he believes was wrong, but rather the way security was handled AFTER we started killing Iraqis for no good reason.

Oh and his contention that Hillary would have invaded Iraq if she knew what she knows now, is dead wrong as well.

This courtesy of the Washington Post: 

In "Hard Choices," Clinton, a former secretary of state and former U.S. senator who is exploring a 2016 presidential campaign, writes: "[M]any Senators came to wish they had voted against the resolution. I was one of them. As the war dragged on, with every letter I sent to a family in New York who had lost a son or daughter, a father or mother, my mistake become (sic) more painful." 

Clinton continues, "I thought I had acted in good faith and made the best decision I could with the information I had. And I wasn't alone in getting it wrong. But I still got it wrong. Plain and simple."

So not only is Jeb demonstrating that he shares the same inability to learn from mistakes that his brother suffers from, but that he is also willing to lie about others in order to cover his ass.

You know I thought Jeb made a fatal mistake when he identified George W. as one of his advisers, but clearly he was not yet done pounding that stake into the heart of his campaign.

29 comments:

  1. Anonymous9:12 AM

    Further proof that Jeb is as stupid as he looks.

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  2. Anonymous9:20 AM

    Gryphen, A related story at Politico by Roger Simon, their #1 writer, is titled Did Jeb Bush Get Dropped on His Head as a Baby --- and the first line reads:

    "Would you ask Donald Trump's advice on where to get a haircut? Or take driving advice from Lindsey Lohan? Or ask Sarah Palin's advice on.... well, anything? :" Bwahahahahah

    I hope you'll post that story also too!

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    1. Anonymous10:01 AM

      Was Jeb dropped on head as a child?

      http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/jeb-bush-mideast-israeli-adviser-george-w-bush-117829.html

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    2. Anonymous3:29 PM

      Having a mom that chases the kids with her miscarriage in a jar does things to a boy's brain.

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  3. Anonymous9:24 AM

    This poor hapless fool is caught between a rock and a hard place.

    GOOD.

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  4. Anonymous9:38 AM

    He can't say anything else. Remember he just tapped his war mongering half wit brother as his foreign policy expert! I seriously don't see Jeb's run for the White House as getting very far.

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  5. Anonymous9:38 AM

    I'm beginning to think the only reason Jeb is running is to redeem his brother. Does GW have someone on him or is Big Mama Bush insisting little brother make everyone love her eldest boy and the Bushes again?

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  6. Anonymous9:42 AM

    What an arse.

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  7. Nikogriego9:47 AM

    The biggest problem with that statement was that it was not "faulty" intelligence that got us to invade a sovereign country for no reason, but rather deliberate lies and obfuscation in order to set in motion a plan that had been in the works for years. Deliberate lies, manipulation of the facts, and promotion of falsehoods were done by GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and even Powell, particularly at the UN. To state that the intelligence was faulty is just another lie in an attempt to cover up the true history of those events.

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  8. Olivia9:55 AM

    Oh, Jebbie, millions of us knew it was a mistake from the beginning. We knew the intelligence was a pack of lies, we knew that big brother wanted to be a wartime president, we knew that big brother's advisers would make billions of dollars getting us into war, we knew there would be no flowers for the troops and we knew that big brother was an imbecile when he said no taxes needed to be raised to pay for it. We also knew that the people big brother sent to fight this war would come home damaged and dead and that Republicans would fight tooth and nail to not pay for their injuries.

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    1. Nikogriego10:30 AM

      Couldn't agree with you more.

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    2. Our Lad10:56 AM

      You nailed it, the sad truth.

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  9. Anonymous10:03 AM

    Yep, JEB is FKD

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/yep-jeb-is-fkd

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  10. Anonymous10:22 AM

    Trust me, I have zero super-powers, but the day he was appointed President I said to my husband omg we're going to war.

    JJ

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  11. Anonymous10:23 AM

    I'm still not voting for Hillary unless she's the absolutely last resort. She is as trustworthy now as she was in 2008.

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  12. A J Billings10:23 AM

    Jeb is going to lose the 2016 election if he keeps saying this kind of stupid shite.

    O/T, but reminiscent of just how vicious the Jeb, and the rest of Christian Taliban is getting:

    Here's one for the record books ladies.

    Suppose you need an abortion for some reason.

    And you live in Wisconsin.

    Under a new bill, SB201, the state is proposing to allow your parents, grandparents or maybe even IN LAWS to go to court to stop your abortion.

    https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/2013/related/proposals/sb201

    Supposedly, this is to prevent "gender based" abortion decisions, i.e., choosing to abort because of the sex of the fetus. All Grandma has to say is, " I heard she wanted a girl, not a boy", and she can file an injunction, and stop your abortion.

    The hard cold reality is that the lunatics running the state of Wisconsin now want your fucking relatives to decide what medical procedures you get to have.

    I can't imagine this would stand up to a Constitutional challenge, but that of course could take 5 years to work it's way through the Fed system.

    http://www.uppitywis.org/blogarticle/wisgop-bill-would-give-mother-law-power-stop-daughter-laws-abort

    Notice also that they define the "child" in this insane law as being " a human being from the time of fertilization until it is
    completely delivered from a pregnant woman."

    Yes, that's right, a two celled zygote one hour after sex is the same thing as a 9 month full term baby.

    What's next? Implanting RFID chips in a women's body by law to detect pregnancy?

    Mandatory pregnancy tests for all females over age 11 every month so they can monitor everyone's uterus?

    These idiots are despicable fuckwits.

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  13. Anonymous10:44 AM

    The derp runs deep, my friends.

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  14. Our Lad10:53 AM

    Jumpin Jesus, anything but another Bush, any thing, annnnyfuckinthing. Charlie Manson, I don't give a shit, just anybody.

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  15. Anonymous11:02 AM

    Gryphen, you might want to check this out...
    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/range-15-movie

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  16. Anonymous11:07 AM

    This guy would be a frightening candidate for POTUS! But, the Republicans don't have one soul that is capable of taking on the job.

    Damn, so wish President Obama could serve another term.

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  17. Anonymous11:28 AM

    O/T: TPP fast-track is blocked!! Yesss.....

    http://www.salon.com/2015/05/12/the_10_biggest_lies_youve_been_told_about_the_trans_pacific_partnership/

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  18. Anonymous12:41 PM

    He's as fake as his brothers dick in the Mission Accomplished video.Damn what an asshole.

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  19. Anonymous2:14 PM

    For perspective, he's being advised by his brother who, not hypothetically, actually did invade Iraq knowing there were no WMD's there. And Big Daddy Bush's Gulf War was a total put-up as well. He had his ambassador to Iraq give Sadam Hussein the messages that 1) the US has no treaty obligation to defend Kuwait, and that 2) the US has no opinion in Arab-Arab conflicts. Having tacitly green-lighted Sadam's invasion plans, he and his defense secretary - Honest Dick Cheney - waited like spring-loaded cats for the mouse to take the bait. As soon as he did, we were bombarded with propaganda created by a PR firm - things like the Iraqis dumping babies on the floor and stealing the incubators they were in, to gin up public support for a(nother) war. So, as it turns out, Jeb taking America to war without just cause would just be a matter of upholding a family tradition.

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  20. Anonymous3:24 PM

    A more pressing question would have been "What cave was Jebbie in for eight long years?" Someone get him on a REAL news program, Rachel would do a much better job than Megyno.

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  21. Anonymous3:28 PM

    Ahhhh heck. Jeb just will not get pass the global grove of owners of the good old us of a. He will likely drop out before the end of the year.

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  22. Anonymous3:47 PM

    I hate the stupid, bullshit, revisionist argument that "Everybody saw the same intel and everyone concluded Saddam had WMD and only in retrospect did we learn we were mistaken." IT IS NOT TRUE! Even before the war, before Condi-sleaze-a Rice told us "A smoking gun would be a mushroom cloud"--I had read articles in the Guardian that said that the aluminum tubes were not the right kind for a nuke warhead. Joe Wilson knew before the invasion that the Yellow Cake charge was trumped up. People knew AT THE TIME that Saddam did not have WMD. It is just a pile of LIES to say "We all believed that Saddam had WMD and we were all wrong". Bullshit! Bull shit! BULL SHIT!

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    1. Anonymous6:47 AM

      war is a $$$$ making business. blackwater contractors$$$$$!! the Bush family just needs to sit down and shut up. Bush was Na Na Na'd when he was leaving the white house. he and his should have been tarred and feathered and run out of town.

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  23. Anonymous9:58 PM

    Jon Stewart!

    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/jon-stewart-skewers-jeb-bush-name-dropping-w-is-like-wearing-an-i-fck-dogs-shirt/

    "“Long-term, mentioning his brother’s name is like wearing an ‘I F*ck Dogs’ T-shirt during your campaign,” Stewart said. “You might be appealing to a small fringe of dead-enders, but most people don’t want another dog-fucker for president.”"

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