Courtesy of the Daily Kos:
On his 700 Club television show, the right-wing televangelist (and son of a segregationist) was asked why God would allow a helpless infant to die in the hospital.
His response? God willed it, because maybe your child would have grown up to be the next Hitler. No, I am not joking …
"As far as God’s concerned, he knows the answer from the beginning. And he sees the little baby, and that little baby could grow up to be Adolf Hitler. He could grow up to be Joseph Stalin. He could grow up to be some serial killer. Or he could grow up to die of a hideous disease. God sees all that. And for that life to be terminated when he’s still a baby, he’s going to be with God forever in heaven. And that isn’t a bad thing."
I’m sure the mother who tragically lost her baby in the hospital will feel great knowing that at least their baby didn’t grow up to be Adolf Hitler.
Yeah your baby is going to go to Heaven, and that's not a bad thing.
And it's a hell of a lot better than watching them grow up to exterminate a bunch of Jews, amirite?
Don't forget there are still people ignorant enough to send this charlatan their hard earned money by the bucket load. He is estimated to be worth in excess of $100 million, if not more.
Proving once again that you can say the most ignorant and horrific things imaginable just so long as you make people believe that God is on your team.
Or it could have grown up to be Pat Robertson.
ReplyDeleteOr it could have grown up to be Sarah Palin, or Josh Duggar, or Scott Walker, or Mike Huckabee, or Jim Bob Duggar, or Bristol Palin, or Mike Pence, or Rand Paul, or Jeb Bush, or George W. Bush, or Dick Cheney. But yea, good thing he/she wouldn't grow up to be that POS Pat Robertson.
DeleteSo, why did God not "take" this POS at birth?
ReplyDeleteLol...
DeleteBut Pat, Adolph Hitler WAS born. So was Stalin, and many millions HAVE died from hideous diseases.
ReplyDeleteI must be missing something, people believe this crap?
Mildred
Excellent point! Pity you can't explain that to Pat Robertson -- he has ears but cannot hear.
Deleteexactly - these guys don't think at all - they just open their mouth and expect to be adulated. those who have a thinking brain cannot possibly understand the level of tolerance a guy like robertson has to have to put up with his own inanity.
DeleteReligion is a form of insanity!
DeleteSo is Pat saying he's pro-abortion? Or just when God causes it? Why did God let Hitler get born?
ReplyDeleteNo, Pat just said he was okay with children dying or being murdered after death, cuz his all loving God likes to kill live little children and it's okie dokie and more than probably the fault of the Mom that spawned the lil evil critter in the first place.
Delete(And all you religious people wonder why I make fun of your ridiculous religion) Now run aloong and send him a few Jeebus bucks and you may just be able to save your dead evil childs soul by Ol' Pat buying more jewelry or hookers.
Pat is crooked as a dog's hind leg!
DeleteJust as bad, the baby could have grown up to be a grifter like Robertson, or PayMe. Ol' Pat should get the hell off TV, he lost it years ago. Why anyone sends this clown money is beond my understanding.
ReplyDeletePat Robertson is perfect proof of the harm to one's mind that is caused by belief in primitive superstitious nonsense.
ReplyDeleteUsing robertson's logic, couldn't one make the argument that abortion might be preventing a future Hitler, Stalin, or serial killer? Or perhaps the aborted child might grow up and get a terrible disease and die? Isn't abortion gods will, too?
ReplyDeleteyep - either use of the argument is still ridiculous though. birth loss by natural causes or by personal choice has very little to do with god and a whole lot to do with the circumstances of the pregnancy. but then that would require a bit of thinking, some empathy for the woman, and appreciation for science.
DeleteBirth loss by natural causes or by personal choice has nothing to do with god. There, fixed it for you.
DeletePatsy is PRO-Abortion?
ReplyDeleteSo much for that "free will" thing, huh, God? And by Pat's logic, god must love abortions since he gets so many more pure babies to be w/him. Awesome!
ReplyDeleteSo much for "it's all part of God's plan and we cannot comprehend his infinite wisdom."
DeleteApparently Pat Robertson has the hubris to suggest that *he* knows why God does what he does. Wow. Direct pipeline to the Almighty. Please mail in $20.
Lol...
DeleteWe were hoping you were going to post a tutorial on how to properly apply lip gloss. You're such an expert on female things.
ReplyDeleteInstead of that how about you post a few pics of your chiseled and sculpted 55 year old body ?
Last I saw, Gryphen is not advertising himself as "The Hottest Blogger from the Coldest State", or relying on his looks to further his career.
DeleteLet me attempt to diffuse your anger, 5:21. According to expert makeup artists who specialize in makeup for print, video, tv and film lip gloss is a no no used rarely and subtlely. It may be used with a light hand over lipstick, lip stain or alone for either a non matte look or
Deletenatural look. Lip gloss and sparkle lay makeup is discouraged for women over a certain age also.
I recommend YOU consult a professional makeup artist for education, tips and rationale of application especially for tv because what may be trendy for teens and twenty something's does not appear flattering through the camera. Just because a products looks cool or is a trend one needs to evaluate if it enhances their looks or detracts in a silly unflattering appearance.
On the topic of lip product applications pros and even informed people recommend a nude lip that enhances or imitates a natural lip versus a shade more appropriate for leather car interiors that appears blood was drained out of the body. It is a great idea to experiment trying a variety of "nude" category shades the camera also loves versus a color that may suit someone else who has different skin tones.
Lisa Eldridge, pro, has excellent videos. Ps contrast photos such as ex Alaska governor Palin in 2008 in contrast to today! Hope this helped alleviate your anger and disappointment:)
521, it's rare that we see such insightful commentary on Gryphen's defunct blog. Clearly, you have given all of us a lot to think about. On behalf of all long-time IM visitors I urge you to return to the blog 3 years from now to see the improvements implemented on the basis of your comments. But do everyone a favor and don't come back before then, OK?
Delete5:21 AM
DeleteWow! Somebody got their widdle feelings hurt!
Here's the old school makeup rule that your Mom failed to teach you.
DeleteOnce you are old enough to wear lipstick ( with your Mom's permission) then you are old enough to stop using lip gloss.
Kind of like once you get your drivers license you can quit asking your Mom for a ride.
There ya go, all you need to know about lip gloss.
Sarah Palin wears lip gloss for two reasons:
Delete1) she thinks it makes her look "youthful," and
2) she thinks it makes her mouth look like a vagina
Ha Ha HA!!! I see what you did there, Reverse reverse psychology, pose a moral stance, then dare the blogger to pose in his birthday suit? Come here often? What sign were you born under? Lane 5? Did mommy make a strike at least? I've heard a lot of pick up lines, but this one's a keeper!!!!
DeleteWow, someone's got his/ her private parts all tingly and hot. Wanna see Gryphen's body that bad? Jealous much????
Sarah should stop using and being up all night! Hmm? Don't ask don't tell???
DeleteWow. Just WOW.
ReplyDeletePat Robertson, I will read your obituary with great enthusiasm.
ReplyDelete5:21, WTF?
ReplyDeleteSarah's up past her bedtime!
DeleteWhat a horrible thing to say.
ReplyDeleteIf God knows the answer from the beginning, why did he even allow the woman to get pregnant? If God knows the answer from the beginning, why didn't he stop Hitler from being born?
ReplyDeleteThis:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.salon.com/2015/06/11/religion_was_born_of_affluence_the_surprising_origins_of_moral_faith_partner/
I am so glad that in spite of ad hearing to Catholicisim my parents believed in education. We were allowed to understand science and were not taught about God in the extremes like Pat Robertson states here. He is saying, and people believe God killed or chose the baby to die to prevent evil. The baby may have been miscarried, or any other numerous medical conditions that his all powerful God controls. Wow
ReplyDeleteAborted babies go to God, too, right? I mean, what if God is turning the woman's heart towards abortion because the baby will be a Stalin?
ReplyDeleteQuite obviously by Pat's logic that God controls everything it sure does mean God wanted those feti to be aborted. Otherwise the all powerful God would not have allowed them to even be a twinkle in their sperm donors eye.
DeleteAlso too, since God and Jeebus wanted them dead cuz they would be Hilters they couldn't go to heaven but directly to hell ( without stopping at Go)
Pat Robertson is insane. On top of that, I think he has increasing dementia.
ReplyDeleteNo grieving parent needs or wants to hear junk like that spoken to them when they are hurting. That was the best thing old Pat could come up with?
ReplyDelete"God's plan" is such a childish answer to the bad things that happen in life.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry that your baby died, Honey. Daddy decided that's the way it has to be. Why did Daddy decide that? That's for him to know and you to never, ever question. Don't you want to spend eternity in paradise with Daddy? Of course you do! If you ever question Daddy, you will burn for eternity in a fiery Hell along with the Jews and the Hindus and Atheists and all those other people who didn't bend to Daddy's will.
Now say your prayers and go to sleep, Honey.
"..........Cuz "Daddy" has decided your brother is going to molest you tonight"
DeleteThere, I finished it for you.
Is he endorsing infanticide? That's the logical conclusion to his statement.
ReplyDeleteOtherwise, I have no idea what he's trying to say.
Lmao!
ReplyDeleteYou cant abort yhem because they might be the next Mozart, but they can die because they might be the next Hitler??
Okaaaaay then!
I wouldn't want to be any where near Pat Robertson when St. Peter meets him at the Pearly Gates. The list of grievances against this faux-christian creep must be miles long.
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
Umm, so why did God allow the actual Hitler to be born? And why does God allow babies to be born with serious illnesses?
ReplyDeleteIt's "God's Plan."
DeleteSo Pat can make millions.
DeleteReminds me of that old country tune--Mamas, Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Hitlers.
ReplyDeleteSorry. Couldn't resist.
So what's Robertson's excuse for God allowing Hitler to live?
ReplyDeleteTo kill the Jews, the Roma, and the Gays, of course. And Pat's ok with it.
DeleteGod had the day off? God's quality control people went on strike? Who knows? Where was God the day Pat Roberstson was born?
DeleteAnd you can bet the fundies would call Bellview if a woman entering an abortion clinic told them that God told her her baby was going to be the next Hitler and she should terminate the pregnancy immediately. Because, you know, people that hear voices are crazy. Right? (Except if it's Pat Robertson and God is talking to him.)
ReplyDeleteSo then if someone who is religious loses a child then the child wouldn't really be going to heaven or get to be with Jeebus( the white baby one) because they were going to get killed and sent to hell for a sin they might have committed if God hadn't murdered them?
ReplyDeleteWhat a porcupine fucking jackass and waste of skin. He takes one of THE MOST PAINFUL emotional events in any family's life and comforts them in what way? I had a priest try the same tactic when we had a stillborn child in the hospital. We knew she was dead and I had to carry her full term. I had to hold my husband's hand while buzzing the nurse and asking for security to escort the lunatic.
ReplyDeleteWanna see Jesus, Pat? It's a good thing, I'll buy the gun and bullet. Hell, everyone should commit mass suicide by his logic.
His is one viewing I'd wait in line for, I want to see with my own eyes that he isn't breathing and toss earhworms, ever so gently, on that mug of his.
Apologies if I offended anyone, porcupines, jackasesse, and wastes of skin, this hit close to home. The man has obviously passed his "use by date".
I'm so sorry to hear about what you and your husband went through. And then to have it made even more painful by a moron telling you it was "god's plan" or the child "is in a better place"? I can't even imagine.
DeleteHe's a dumbass! Ignore him! Speaking of Tele evangelist I don't think Joyce Meyers would have the same definition! She might have a few choice words for Pat! Shrug! When I'm surfing I watch her to laugh then move on! She makes religion funny! Yea she's just as bad!
DeleteThanks for your kind words, it restored my belief in humanity and all that's good about mankind.
DeleteISIS means Mother of Egypt! How ironic! Ha!
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