Wednesday, August 05, 2015

Indiana elementary school student isolated from other children due to his lack of faith in God.

Courtesy of Raw Story: 

A lawsuit recently filed against a teacher at Forest Park Elementary School in Indiana alleged that a 7-year-old student was “banished” from sitting with other students at lunch after he revealed that he did not believe in God. 

According to the lawsuit obtained by The Washington Post, second grade teacher Michelle Myer interrogated the student, who was identified with the initials A.B., about his religious beliefs after he told his classmates on the playground that he did not go to church because he did not believe in God. 

As a result, the child was ordered to sit by himself during lunch for a three-day period. 

“The defendant’s actions caused great distress to A.B. and resulted in the child being ostracized by his peers past the three-day ‘banishment.'” 

“Ms. Meyer asked A.B. if he had told the girl that he did not believe in God and A.B. said he had and asked what he had done wrong,” the lawsuit explained. “Ms. Meyer asked A.B. if he went to church, whether his family went to church, and whether his mother knew how he felt about God… She also asked A.B. if he believed that maybe God exists.” 

Several days later, Meyer sent A.B. to talk to another adult at the school, who “reinforced his feeling that he had done something very wrong,” the lawsuit said. 

“On the day of the incident and for an additional two days thereafter, Ms. Meyer required that A.B. sit by himself during lunch and told him he should not talk to the other students and stated that this was because he had offended them. This served to reinforce A.B.’s feeling that he had committed some transgression that justified his exclusion.”

Of course this resulted in the child forming negative feelings about school and growing anxious about attending, as he felt both the teachers and children hated him. 

This story really hits me where I live since I went through a similar situation when I was about seven years old as well.

In my case I was ostracized by the other kids, and felt isolated and unwelcome for most of that year.

The next year I learned to keep my opinions to myself.

As you can see that did not last. 

Of course this is just one of the consequences facing those of us who use logic and critical thinking skills to navigate life, instead of relying on the comfort of ancient superstitions.

22 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:21 AM

    Solitary confinement for the unbeliever!

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  2. The inquisitive classmate was too young to know (and so was A.B.), but Michelle Meyer would certainly know what questions are none of her, or the inquisitive classmate's business. That should have been the end of it right there.

    Because it wasn't, now there's a lawsuit, and the plaintiff should prevail. No, we don't need "God" back in public schools.

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  3. Anonymous5:00 AM

    Thanks a lot, Palin family

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  4. His parents are backing him up and the ACLU so I think this kid's going to have more support than you did.

    Perhaps the bad publicity will drive this crazy bitch from the teaching profession, we can only hope.

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    1. This is actually good news in the long run. It will further inspire the atheists to protest, support and vote for separation of church and state. There has to be an end to this Taliban-like application of church and fate!

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  5. Anonymous5:31 AM

    More information on this story; the girl who asked A.B. if he believed in God threw a hissy fit and cried hysterically when he said he didn't, but if she did, that was okay. More Christian Persecution (tm) obviously--Christians cannot tolerate the very notion that there are people who don't believe exactly as they do.

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    1. Anonymous6:38 AM

      It's a matter of parents telling their kids if they don't obey the "Lord," they will go to hell. The parents also tell them that all unbelievers will go to hell. So, when a seven-year hears that a classmate doesn't believe in the "Lord," she gets understandably upset.

      It's the adults (her parents and the teacher) that are the real problem, not the kid.

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  6. Anonymous5:35 AM

    I am over 70 years old and I simply cannot imagine such an incident in a public school as I grew up and even during most of my adult years. Yet, today, I see it as absolutely possible. What has come over Americans that we understand so little of our Constitution and the rights that it bestowed upon us all? Church and state are separate in the US; what about that do the school authorities in Indiana (and probably in most of other states as well) not grasp. Maybe because I was raised and educated in the aftermath of WWII, adults were more cognizant of what the Constitution means. What I fear most now is that the country is slipping and sliding towards fascism which is fast becoming a goal of the ignorant GOP, corporate media and the billionaire class.
    Beaglemom

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    1. ...slipping and sliding and winking its way to fascism, a flag draped around its shoulders, every religious symbol as jewelry hung around its neck...

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    2. Anonymous10:11 AM

      Thank you for your comment, Beaglemom!

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    3. What I don't get is the hypocrisy.

      Apparently it is fine with these Xians to interfere in all aspects of Government with their religion but the shit hits the fan if the Government should interfere in their religion.

      Separation of church and state is just that. What is it about this concept that alludes them?

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  7. My day at the computer consists of rounding through Immoral Minority, Daily Kos and wonkette and back again, with a few more occasional places. Some stories are so horrendous, like this one, all three stops cover it, and it's just a matter of who's first. (If the story has some gay angle, it'll probably show up at Queerty too.) I enjoy the takes of all the different places.

    Perhaps what needs to be founded is a Holy Church of Mind Your Own Business. Isn't that an idea even we atheists could summon reverence for?

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    1. Yes. I did a digital graphic last year of a cathedral facade made from scanned objects I'd picked up off the street, including broken cell phone parts, bar codes, etc.

      Titled it, The Church of Perpetual Accumulation. What's prayed to these days is not god but money.

      Trump is admired because he has a lot of money & shiny things and incites (gives permission to) Americans to turn away from those who don't -- America was founded on the idea that you are poor because you are lazy and/or obviously unloved of god. You don't have to provide for them. If they won't help themselves, or god won't, why should you?

      A sick psychological/religious premise on which to found a nation -- with dozens of different sects of religion, busy counting the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin.

      The other enshrined trope which is a shameful farce -- Every man is created equal.

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  8. Anonymous9:57 AM

    Oh my Dog!! I can't believe this happened in 2015!! That poor child.

    Thank you for posting this story, Gryphen. Of course I am not seeing it anywhere in mainstream media, which is also disappointing.

    I hope this child can get some counseling. Wow. I am just stunned.

    R in NC

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  9. Anonymous3:02 PM

    I love it! These retarded MORONS at this school have not just created an Atheist, they've created a militant Atheist, of which I am one of, and of which I am very proud. Stupid assholes, they just don't realize how very dangerous their stone-aged beliefs can be, to their cause, that is. The more strident they are in trying to convert innocent open minds, the more Atheists they create. Death of religion can't come soon enough, and soon enough it seems it will be a thing of the past.

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  10. Anonymous5:02 PM

    Was this a religious school? No? Then the teacher should leave the kid alone. I would sue the crap out of her.
    I went to Catholic school and was hit many times by nuns. I never told my parents because they had us believing we deserved it.

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  11. I am a person of Faith who nonetheless always looks forward to your posts against organized religion, abuses of organized religion, and the hypocrisy thereof, as befits the true Christian tradition. Keep up the good work.

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  12. physicsmom5:43 PM

    It appears that Indiana is vying for the title of "Most Dominionist State" with Texas. The Principal, Superintendent and all of the Board of Education should see that the teacher is fired. Of course, they are probably Dominionists too.

    Beaglemom, I'm just a bit younger than you and I can't imagine anyone in our schools permitting this ostracization. I went to Public school for 4 years then Catholic school for the next two. Even in the religious school I can't picture any of the nuns using isolation to "protect the other kids". More likely, they'd encourage the other students to profess their faith to the "infidel" and get to him/her through peer pressure.

    Barbara Carlson - I don't agree that the country was founded on the premise that the poor are lazy. Just the opposite in fact. However, I won't disagree with the evolution of the leadership to think that way. Oligarchs all, and one could expand that to Fascists without much trouble.

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  13. Anita Winecooler6:13 PM

    I arrived late at checking off the "none" box under "religion" as did my husband, and we raised our kids with no religion, left it up to them when they became adults.
    I suppose my kids were fortunate, because nothing close to this happened to them in public school. They're now adults, and none of them have any plans whatsoever of joining any organized religion.
    To me, this child was a victim of persecution (tm), which isn't a "christian monopoly", based solely on his constitutional right to not believe AND child abuse in that he was punished and ostracized for his non belief.

    Gee, one would think a "christian" would be sensitive to persecution and abuse, simply turn the other cheek and leave the kid be. I wish AB all the best, most of all unconditional love and acceptance from his elders and peers.

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  14. Anonymous8:59 PM

    Nobody here seems to know that a child age 7 would just be at the beginning of the concrete operational stage of cognitive development. The idea of a God or of no God is too abstract for a kid this age to grasp, including Gryphen. The boy's parroting what his parents have told him just like religious kids repeat what their parents say about Jesus or angels or whatever.

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  15. My Mother ostracized my sister when she decided to convert to Catholicism. Didn't set a place for her at the table for a month. And refused to attend her catechism or whatever it was.

    Funny as she married a Catholic. She just didn't want her daughter to become one.

    I told her it was probably good for my sister as now she didn't have to worry about making up her mind, the church would do all her deciding for her and just tell her what to think.

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  16. Oh you're a slick one. Pulling a Silly Sarah on us, making yourself out to be the victim.

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