Thursday, September 17, 2015

It's time to do a little tidying up after last night's Republican debate.

First off I have a confession to make.

I bailed at around the two hour mark.

However in my defense I had also watched, and live tweeted the earlier kids table debate, so I was drowning in GOP talking points.

And I think today it is time to address those talking points that I was too tired (drunk) and bored (drunker) to address last night.

First off I thought the debate had some interesting moments, such as Jeb Bush trying to get Trump to apologize to his wife (He didn't.), Chris Christie chastising Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina for talking about their resumes (And not giving him to talk about his.), and of course the moment when Ted Cruz introduced himself to the audience resulting in dead silence. 

Really firing them up there aren't you Ted?

There was also this rather awkward moment.

I guess that was the moment when we realized that Donald Trump is more "street" than Ben Carson.

I tweeted throughout the debate, and some of them even made sense.

Here are a few that I thought worth sharing.

Okay this last one quite literally made my jaw drop.

The most devastating terrorist attack ANYWHERE happens on his watch, and Jebbie has the balls to suggest that his brother kept us safe.

And here I thought it was just those of us at home drinking during the debate.

There were several other moments of note, such as Ben Carson insulting the Marines, Trump insulting every one, Rick Santorum comparing Kim Davis to a survivor of the columbine shooting, and of course Carly Fiorina's remarks about the Planned Parenthood videos showing still living fetuses, with hearts beating and legs kicking.

That of course was bullshit.

Actually a whole lot of what was said last night was truck loads, and truck loads, of bovine excrement.

Which is just more reason why those of us on the other side need to make damn sure we nominate a candidate that can win, and then turn out in droves to make sure they do.


  1. Anonymous9:10 AM

    The Winning Lie: My brother kept us safe

    1. Anonymous10:25 AM

      What made this scary is that the audience applauded that lie.

    2. Anonymous10:31 AM

      That was scary how the audience applauded that safe comment, how soon some people forget.

    3. Anonymous12:06 PM

      paintchip eaters

  2. Anonymous9:13 AM

    Berni Saunders is right, republicans are the party of War and tax breaks for billionaires.

  3. Anonymous10:02 AM

    Speaking of keeping america safe didn't the anthrax scares happen on bush's watch too? I bet some of the people working at the capitol office buildings didn't feel all that safe during that.

    1. And how safe did GW keep all of our military people that he sent to Iraq for no sane reason?

  4. Anonymous10:08 AM

    When Jeb said "My brother kept us safe". I was pissed. I was screaming

    The worst terrorist attack in our nation's history. Thousands of dead Americans. That qualifies as keeping us safe?!?!

    If any one of the other clowns on that stage would've called Jeb on that, they would've earned a ton of cred with me. But I guess they were afraid to go there....Even Trump

    When you are afraid to challenge people in your own party, I find it pretty difficult to buy your claims that you'll be able to stare down the likes of Vladamir Putin.

    1. Anonymous10:39 AM

      Trump has been the ONLY one that has countered the people running against him. His words have been all over the press against many of them - prior to the debate!

      I found the build up to the debate by CNN to be ridiculous. All about killing Donald Trump! But, it did get their numbers up as to viewership - no doubt about that.

      I didn't watch the debate because I knew all I'd have to do is go on the internet afterwards and review the commentary from varied sources.

      We need to get the vote out and make sure folks don't vote Republican, Americans. What a sorry bunch of jerks in their clown car! They truly are a frightening showing of Americans within our very midst and they don't appear to be embarrassed revealing themselves in that manner!

  5. Anonymous10:09 AM

    Gryphen, thanks for posting the Cruz video. Once again and not unsurprisingly, you have not failed to not get the not wrong answer to the not right question that was not asked repeatedly during last's nights awesome GOP debate-a-thon.

    Like the countless few libtard deadenders who still visit your defunct blog that nobody reads - for 8 years - who dismiss Theodore "Ted!" Cruz - a true master debater - at your peril! The reason there was no audible reaction to Ted's moving auto-introduction is that the audience was absorbing his surprise disclosure that he is married and has children.

    "WHAT??? DID WE HEAR THAT RIGHT??? Married AND CHILDREN??? WHO KNEW?? I THOUGHT HE WAS A DOUCHEBAG BUT NOW??? HE'D MAKE AN AWESOME PRESIDENT!!! OR POSSIBLY KING!!!!" because... um... he's married.... and... uh... has children. yay...."

    Many have predicted that inevitable quietly exploding support for Cruz would begin with the ear-shattering sound of silence and this response is clearly proof of that!

    President Ted, we await your call to arms!

    1. If I could hug you...

    2. Anonymous10:57 AM


      M from MD

    3. Anonymous11:10 AM

      Always glad to hear from you, BJC!

    4. Anonymous11:21 AM

      And those are his foreign relations credentials.

    5. Anonymous11:26 AM

      ...and all this time, i thought you had a limited grasp of Theodore "Ted!" Cruz - a true master debater

      thank you for lending ol "Ted" a hand...

      drlager ;)

    6. fromthediagonal12:55 PM

      Dammit Beldar aka BJC, you nailed it again, but you, Anon @ 11:26 misspelled Theodore "Ted!" Cruz' label, for he is a true master"bater" who looks suspiciously like a certain Senator McCarthy. I shall leave it at that! ;)

    7. Anonymous2:07 PM

      Inge, you're too kind. To Ted, that is. Sharper eyed observers than you - and me - point out that he looks more like the charmingly cellulosic Charlie than the execrable 'Tail Gunner' Joe.

    8. @conga14:16 PM

      Cruz looks like Mr. Heaney, on the old "Green Acres" TV show. And he has the personality to match that character.

    9. Anonymous6:29 PM

      11:21, you make me wish there is a like button here.

    10. Cracklin Charlie8:57 PM

      Wow, a visit from Beldar?

      I thought you would be too busy to visit here, what with all your (Jake from) State Farm commercials and all.

      That's Big Time!
      We're proud of ya, bud!

  6. Anonymous10:11 AM

    How embarrassing for Cruz! Wouldn't you think the 'non response' would do him in - to himself and others?

  7. Anonymous10:27 AM

    A friend who is a Republican told me she watched the debate. She said she and many people are upset with the direction the country turned away from God and not using military power for our strength against Russia and Iran. She said Barack Obama has been "too nice" meaning using diplomacy. She believes being gay is a choice and legalizing gay marriage apparently was a last straw for religious people.

    I find it interesting that the less people's adult kids attend church and accept gay people some need to blame Obama for trends existing before he became President. I do not hear people blaming their selves or acquaintances nor their kids not going to church. I find it kind of crazy to blame the black guy in the White House yet they want him to send young adults to war first.

    1. Anonymous11:30 AM

      I like the negotiation skills of President Obama and the fact he does not want to be putting our military in harms way.

      Republicans = war! But, keep themselves, kids and relatives from being a part of the fight!

  8. One thing that pisses me off is that the idiots who are posing the questions to these douchebags, don't follow up with questions about the idiot answers! Tapper was a limp idiot, he let so much slide. These debates are anything but that! There should be follow up questions to each candidate when they state something so obviously wrong or a lie. These are not debates, just glorified question and answers, often lies or exaggerations. Not worth my time or effort.

    1. Journalism is dead. Long live the thinking-man's comedians like Oliver, Colbert, Maher, Stewart & anybody who will take the mic at the candidates' Town Halls and show up the candidate's idiocies.

      I am embarrassed by the Republican Party -- it represents the very WORST of America. Shame on journalists who aren't discussing issues, not calling these clowns out on their blatant lies and only pander to the entertainment value in such important problems as climate change.

      Rubio's "I made sure I brought my own water," comment was disgusting. Nobody called him on that or the many lies of Carly Fiorina.

    2. Anonymous11:28 AM

      I'd refer to Tapper a 'limp dick' without the balls to follow up on the asinine answers given by members of the clown car!

      The entire fiasco was a joke! Republicans truly suck!

    3. Anonymous11:39 AM

      I lied to myself saying I wouldn't watch another debate after Biden/Ryan. For previous years I was turned off by Political Debates because they was a bunch of BS, and so are the Moderators. To me a Debate is when you take FACTS to argue your point of view or opinions, the past few years when the repubs Debate they pull sh*t out their asses and let it rip, and the stupid ass moderators just let it slide they too should have their FACTS so when the Politicians get it wrong the Moderator should be able to call him on it, this is what Candy Crawley did during the 2nd debate with President Obama and Romney, which I thought was perfect. President Obama looked awful in that first debate, that's because he was thrown off guard with the lies Romney was telling. When I watched the Biden/Ryan debate I thought I died and went to Haven, unlike others, Vice President Biden didn't let none of the the BS fly, after all there's a reason why they gave Paul Ryan the nickname "Lyin Ryan". I watched some of the Debate last night only for entertainment purposes, I thought Christie was on point about the bickering between trump and carley,

    4. Anonymous6:21 PM

      Tapper was on one of the late night shows, yakking how great this debate was going to be, they were going to ask really tough questions in order to get the candidates to respond to each others answers.

      Well call me stupid, Mr. Tapper, but that is exactly what a debate is suppose to be, not a monologue of bumper sticker buzz words.

  9. Anonymous11:05 AM

    I see the Jeb! campaign is doubling down on "kept us safe" with a tweet of George Bush and bullhorn atop the rubble of the World Trade Center towers.

    This indicates that the Jeb! advisers are even more stupid than the candidate. Anyone with even a tiny bit of political savvy would have buried that blunder in a barrage of sound bites. Jeb! thinks his albatross is some kind of bird of paradise.

    "Jeb! thinks" is an oxymoron. I hope the GOP nominates him. He'll outstrip Mitt Romney in stupidity.

    1. Anonymous11:31 AM

      "Jeb! thinks his albatross is some kind of bird of paradise."

      Heh heh... Good one...

    2. Along with that exclamation mark after his name, his campaigners need to add a question mark.

      Jeb!? said WHAT?!?

    3. Anonymous6:26 PM

      Sounds like Jeb ! campaign theme is a re-write the history of GW years in the White House.

      I want a journalist to ask Jeb! ,what he was doing at Lehman Bros. when they crashed the economy.

      Oh right, it was Obama that crashed it, GW was on vacation.

  10. Anonymous11:06 AM

    Gryphen, I can't believe you lasted that long. My ears ached after 15 min.

    1. I'm a trained professional.

      Don't try this at home.

    2. Anonymous11:47 AM

      I assumed G was well supplied with orange tic-tac to go with the vodka.

    3. Anonymous12:22 PM

      You're a certified idiot whisperer? Who knew there was such a thing?

    4. Anonymous2:17 PM

      12:22 PM Idiot is your middle name.

  11. Anonymous11:14 AM

    I think Margaret Thatcher for the $10 bill ranks up there with Mitt's "binders full of women" for sheer tone deafness. Jeb Bush gave the reason that Thatcher was (Saint) Reagan's partner (and thus should be elevated above every single American woman in the history of the Republic).

    I could care less who gets on the $10 bill. But Jeb's inability to perceive that some people might care very much just focused me again on what a worthless excuse for a human he is.

    1. Anonymous11:53 AM

      With all due respect, it's obvious that Jeb! thought the question was referring to the British ten dollar bill. An easy mistake for anyone named Bush to make. Pretty sure he'd prefer to have Terry Schiavo's image on the tenner. (Google "terry schiavo jeb bush")

    2. Cracklin Charlie8:47 PM

      Only one person gets their picture on the British money. And Jeb! knows exactly who that is.

      He wanted Thatcher. Those guys all love her because she was a Reagan contemporary. He wanted to pander to women, but didn't have any decent American conservative women to name, because there are none.

  12. The Tea Party is the Republican party now. They vocalized the racist-fueled hatred all of them feel for Obama, but left deniability for those with still enough propriety to restrain themselves publicly. Many have said the teabaggers - and we know who their spiritual mother was - were a cancer in the Republican party. If so, they were a cancer invited and coddled. Turn against them, and they'll bludgeon you to submission or ruin with their bibles. It's too late now: the party can't win with them, and can't win without them.

    "There is a time in the life of every problem when it is big enough to see and small enough to solve."

  13. Anonymous12:00 PM

    O/T, there is a great article about Bristol over at Wonkette, with comments!

    1. Anonymous12:33 PM


      I just knew that post of hers would get her some attention. She's still waiting for the President to call her, her mother the quitter is going to be in tRUMP's presiduncal cabinet and whatnot.

    2. Anonymous2:32 PM

      Wonkette nailed it, as always! Comments are always my favorite part.

  14. Caroll Thompson12:05 PM

    I could not take it, so I opted to hear about it on MSNBC after it was over.

    As a Navy veteran, I continue to be astounded by the warlike nature of this group of Chicken hawks. The ones old enough to have served in Vietnam were all draft dodgers, albeit legal draft dodgers.

    I don't blame anyone for trying to avoid service in Vietnam, but don't come back years later as a war hawk. Yet the ones who yell the loudest for war are always the biggest cowards in my view. They want to send our sons and daughters to war, but not themselves or their sons and daughters.

    Shame on Ben Carson to make that crack about the Marines. The Marines are always ready willing and able to go wherever they are ordered to go. Even without proper supplies, Marines will get the job done.

    Carson obviously never heard of Guadalcanel. In that historic battle during WWII, the Marines were ill prepared and the Navy abandoned them, but they got the job done and many paid with their life.

    So fuck all you Chicken Hawks. And Fuck You Sarah Palin. You are the worst of the cowards because you use the military to grift money.

    Sorry, sometimes I get a little angry about people using the military for their own dubious purposes.

  15. ("The most devastating terrorist attack ANYWHERE happens on his watch, and Jebbie has the balls to suggest that his brother kept us safe.")

    That's what the Bushies call a Mulligan!

  16. Anonymous1:41 PM

    I am so glad that I did not waste my time or risk a jump in my blood pressure by watching the so-called debate last night. How can there be a debate with so many participants? And, by the way, why were they standing along the side of a giant airplane? Was it supposed to look like Air Force One?

    1. Anonymous2:13 PM

      Actually it was Reagan's Air Force One jet at his library.

    2. Anonymous2:44 PM

      Reagan got to keep his Air Force One! Wow! Imagine if Bill Clinton had wanted to keep his.

  17. Anonymous2:09 PM

    The bar is set so low . How do you measure their worth?
    Whomever coined the " clown car" phrase was being kind.
    What a bunch of imbeciles. Mostly lack of maturity and logic.
    Is this the best they can do? Really?

  18. Anonymous2:10 PM

    Gryphen - As you are sweeping out the trash, here's one to add to the pile.
    Brancy is busy adding her 2 cents.

  19. Anonymous2:14 PM

    There cannot be winners, when you have all losers.

  20. Anonymous4:10 PM

    I've thought about this a lot, and I do mean a LOT. Bear with me here.....

    So after eight years of President Obama, this is honestly the best they have going for them? In MY mind, it only bears witness to the awesome president we've had for seven years and soon to lose. Seriously! We're going to follow up that with this?????

    And if the pee pond thinks that Trump is just paving the way for $arah to step in at the last when he bows out, May God help us all.

    Bottom line: President Obama IS that good, and to watch them dance, if it wasn't our livelihoods on the line, would be comical if it wasn't so horrifying.

  21. At this point I think any candidate the Democratic Party puts on the ticket will win.

    Because I believe there will be a Republican split ticket.

    Donald Trump will not get the nomination and he will backtrack on his promise and run as an Independent. Because he has the money to do it and the hubris to believe he can win.

    I really wish someone had laughed uncontrollably, turned to Jeb and said "Uh, 9-11? Oh and thank your brother for taking down Osama Bin Laden while you're at it."

    I bet Jebby dodges Bush's fiscal irresponsibility and his contribution to the melt down and bail out too.

  22. Anonymous7:07 PM

    Jeb Bush was booed this week in South Carolina. I read all the republican candidates attended and spoke except Trump.


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