Monday, November 30, 2015

Colorado Springs police say they are not going to release motive for the Planned Parenthood shooting. WTF?

Courtesy of Salon: 

Colorado Springs police say they will not disclose why a gunman opened fire at a Planned Parenthood clinic, killing three people. 

Police say in a statement Sunday that they are sealing the warrants related to the case against 57-year-old Robert Lewis Dear. They say they are not providing information on the weapon used in Friday’s shooting, a timeline of events or a motive of the suspect. 

That will continue to stoke speculation about what led to the shooting that killed a police officer and two other people. Dear is scheduled to make his first court appearance Monday afternoon.

Okay not to be too conspiratorial here but for what reason could a police department have for not releasing this kind of evidence to the media?

I mean usually by this time there have already been a number of police statements as to the motive, condition, and attitude of the defendant. Yet in this case mums the word?

Could it be due to the fact that Colorado Springs is a conservative community, and that many of its residents are deeply religious, that is keeping the police from releasing information which might indicate that Mr. Dear is a fundamentalist with opinions about abortion that were tempered in the fires of religious rhetoric?

That is certainly what the evidence is starting to suggest:

A username apparently connected to Robert Lewis Dear, who is accused of fatally shooting three people, may shed light on the dark side of a man who was a mystery to many until he allegedly opened fire in the Colorado Springs clinic. 

The user posted a series of paranoid, Biblical rants on the message boards for nearly a decade ago. 

“aids , hurricanes, we are in the end times,” one post from December 2005 read. 

“accept the LORD JESUS while you can.” 

Another post weeks later declared: “A FOOL HATH SAID IN HIS HEART THERE IS NO GOD,” adding: “PROVERBS.” 

Yet another said: “god made us so he can kill who he wants...the lord giveth the lord taketh away blessed be the name of the LORD.”

It is still too early to jump to conclusions, but that is why it would be very helpful for the police to cooperate with the press and let the public know just who this guy is, and what motivated him to murder three people at a Planned Parenthood clinic.

However it is clear that anti-abortionists are already getting their talking points prepared for if, and when, it turns out this guy was motivated by their rhetoric.

Last night Nancy French, hiding within her faux Bristol Palin camouflage, had this to say about the killings:

I join with the rest of America in grieving over this senseless violence and am deeply saddened that three more souls were added to the countless others who’ve lost their lives at that location.

Which is almost verbatim what Mike Huckabee is also saying:

“There’s no excuse for killing other people, whether it’s inside ... Planned Parenthood clinics, where many millions of babies die, or whether it’s people attacking Planned Parenthood,” Huckabee said.

Of course their argument is at least somewhat more coherent than the one made by Ted Cruz: 

When a reporter reminded the Texas senator that the suspect allegedly made a comment about “baby parts” while being arrested, Cruz countered, “It’s also been reported that he was registered as an independent and a woman and transgendered leftist activist, if that’s what he is.”


So you see even if Mr. Dear was motivated by those doctored videos, or anti-abortion rantings (Which the conservatives want to point out is NOT proven yet!), it is really no big deal because thousands of potential human beings are killed at that location all of the time. And besides that he is probably a transgendered Democrat who is voting for Hillary, so what's all the fuss?

Of course if the Colorado Springs police would disclose more information we might be able to clear all of this up. But it does not appear they are going to do that anytime soon. 


  1. Anonymous6:11 AM

    Hmmm. Interesting. That most likely means the police discovered a direct connection to a very powerful person, or persons.

    1. Anonymous8:57 AM

      I was in Colo. Springs this past holiday weekend. I was there on Friday. On Friday, there was a terrible OpEd that ran in the Gazette (the main paper) raving against all liberals and mentioned being against abortion. Has anyone in the media made this connection yet? I'm not sure who to send this info to, but surely there were others that noticed it.

    2. Well, I couldn't find that specific OP-ED, and I didn't answer the survey question to go to an article, but reading the comments, the paper is super right-wing and doesn't seem to shy away from publishing what some might characterize as 'crazy talk'. Here's a link if anyone else wants to search. This goes to one of the latest about the dude's hearing today. Things I noted: He will be, at least for now, using a public defender, and no hint of motive was discussed. The possibility of the death penalty was however very much discussed.

  2. Caroll Thompson6:12 AM

    The media is beginning to call a spade a spade and has referred to these shootings as being done by a domestic terrorist. Yes, the right does not want these religious nuts with guns referred as such, but they are domestic terrorists and it is damn time were labeled as what they are.

    It's not Syrians and Muslims we need to worry about. Homegrown terror is happening every day. And the terrorist has a bible in one hand and a semi automatic in the other.

  3. Anonymous6:16 AM

    So are we to assume that Nancy French a/k/a Bristles PayMe advocates for single women have many, many illigitimate babies like her client? When $carah's money runs out, maybe Bristles will face the truth, that raising children is costly and time consuming also, too. I guess the lie about him really robbing a bank not PP did not fly. If the press had done their jobs years ago, we would never have had the PayMe family fouling the internet with their fake Christian idiology. We need to DEMAND the truth about this terrible situation before it happens over and over again.

  4. The number one reason not to reveal that information is to not contaminate the jury pool. They want to get a conviction of this horse's ass.

    1. Anonymous6:48 AM

      Let us hope that is the case here.

    2. Anonymous7:02 AM

      Yes I think I agree with you.

    3. Anonymous7:17 AM

      Twenty five years ago Colorado Springs was a laid back mountain town. The real estate market crashed and Focus on the Family made their move on the place. They cashed in on those cheap houses.

      Today even the Air Force Academy has been infiltrated by fundies. A jury of Dear's peers....Oh, yeah......

    4. Anonymous7:38 AM

      I was immediately suspicious as all heck as well, but upon reflection I think twodux is right. The Colorado Springs police lost one of their own, a guy who was by all accounts revered in the community: they're going to want to see this guy fry, not "get off" with an insanity plea that would bring a life sentence, no matter how crazy he obviously was at the time of the shootings.

    5. Anonymous8:03 AM

      I have one friend that has lived in Colorado Springs for eons and they truly are a very religious community! Too much for me. I've been there twice and plan never to return.

      I know of two couples who moved there and left within a year returning to the states they came from. They didn't like the 'feeling' of the right permeating the city/town.

    6. Anonymous8:38 AM

      This was my thought, too

    7. Anonymous8:42 AM

      Colorado Springs is also considered the meth capital of Colorado. Huge surprise there--don't fundie areas go in big for that kind of thing?

      We actually considered moving there about 25 years ago (not for the meth, for the laid-back mountain-town stuff.) We are more glad every day that we stayed in Denver.

    8. If Colorado Springs is anything like Wasilla you could be right. It seems the mindlessness it takes to be a good Fundy is also good for the Meth business.

  5. Anonymous6:34 AM

    Fiornoa whatever her name is incited this yahoo to kill people, no not fetus, but people who were living, working, maybe prepairing for the holidays for their children, worrying about their family members or their friends or neighbors, living life. Assisted murderer. Sarass and brishit as well.

    1. She and Huckleberry couldn't make a statement without accusing liberals and screaming about millions of dead babies.

      I can't take the lies any more.

      Sorry, but if Carly, Huckleberry, tRump, Carsnooze, Cruz or Rubio dropped dead tomorrow, not only would I not be sorry or even polite, I would rejoice that karma had finally called their arses home.

      (The sooner the better)

      Yeah, that's what they've turned me in to.

      Not that I would take matters into my own hands.

      I'll leave that to the right wing whackos that feed on that crap.

  6. Anonymous6:35 AM

    Fascinating! Every other mass shooting -crazy to even have the need to write that - the press, blogs, police immediately start leaking information. Guess this doesn't fit into the CS dialog

    1. Anonymous8:35 AM

      If he had been black, he would have been shot right away. Strange, how these gun fanatics are all lily white.

    2. Anonymous8:49 AM

      Blah blah blah 8:35. More whites are killed by police every year than blacks. You can shove your race baiting bullshit up your lying ass.

    3. Anonymous11:22 AM

      8:49 Is that you $carah? Seems like your vocabulary. Where is the proof of your statement? Almost weekly there is a black person shot and killed by police, then the evidence is shoved under the rug. Go read your bible some more, clown.

    4. Anonymous11:34 AM

      Everybody knows he was a "punk ass"

    5. Anonymous12:32 PM


      A not so clever massaging of stats 8:49

      I'll bet more blacks are using condoms to avoid unwanted pregnancies than whites...In Africa.

    6. Anonymous2:02 PM

      Well, not really a massaging considering the high percentage of violent crime (and non-violent crime) including homicide, by blacks even though they are only around 13% of the population... ie there is an inevitable higher level of interaction between police and African Americans. Yet plenty of whites, like every other race, are also killed by police every year when they are confronted during criminal activities.

  7. Anonymous6:39 AM

    The media stands in for the public, and the public has a right to know what happened and who did it. Was he certifiably crazy, in which case how did he get a gun? Did he hate abortions, or the government at large? Was he ever before in prison, or was he dropped on his head as a baby, or -- what caused a fellow citizen to take up arms and kill a police officer and two people inside the clinic? Could he have just gone next door in the shopping mall and opened fire on those getting manicures? What about the Mexican restaurant also in the mall? Why, in particular, did he choose the Planned Parenthood office, when there were so many other targets close at hand?
    The public has a right to know how he slipped through the cracks, and what must be done to ensure all of our lives in the future, so that no one will slip through the cracks like this again.

    I hope Planned Parenthood has the money and community support to rebuild and once again carry out its Constitutional mission.

    1. Anonymous7:04 AM

      The media has a responsibility to ferret out the truth behind this man and his motivation. From my perspective, he's a nutcase who traveled all the way to Colorado Springs because 1) it's full of right-wing nutcases whom he thought would cheer him on and 2) there happened to be, conveniently enough, a Planned Parenthood office there. He may be sentient enough to have thought that he would be relatively safe in killing people at that site while if he pulled his weapon in a shopping center or a school he might get in real trouble. Given the fact that, among others, he killed and harmed police officers, the local police should be more than forthcoming in any discussion of why he did what he did.

      And, Bristol, what this guy did was lots worse than what some women, who find that they have few if no alternatives, chose to do when they are in the first months of pregnancy. By the way, Bristol, what became of your DWTS tummy and why have you continued to give Tripp's father and his family so much grief?

    2. This clinic did not provide abortions, much less donate fetal tissue to researchers.

      Yet the religious nutcases lump ALL clinics together in their attempt to close them. The followers of these uneducated, but fervent, media figureheads are whooping each other into frenzies before grabbing their guns and doing "the lord's work."

      Yes, this is terrorism.

    3. Anonymous8:43 AM

      The Palins help support Bristol, not every woman has a family with the means to do that. Maybe if she had been cut loose when she was pregnant the first time, she would know how difficult it is being a single mother. Reality is going to jump up and smack her right in the face once her mothers money dries up. I read that she is shopping around for offers by magazines for the baby photos. What a high opinion she has of herself!! Who cares about the fifth pregnancy of the town slut?

    4. The shooter lives in Hartsel, Colorado, 60 miles from Colorado Springs, not a long way away. (NYTimes article).

    5. The media is going to tread lightly because this story touches so many hot buttons: guns, abortion, dead cop, Planned Parenthood. It will come out this guy was a religious nut. (He also has a record for animal abuse and peeping tom.) He also had a traumatic brain injury in 2002 and because of it is a retired firefighter.

      I think the little we know plus the baby parts statement gives us a pretty clear picture of the man and his motivation. Why he did it in Colorado instead of North Carolina, who knows. Does it really matter?

  8. Anonymous6:39 AM

    Another reason not to trust police or their departments across the nation. They are making very bad moves and decisions and white police have killed too many blacks with no qualified reasoning. (videos to prove it!)

  9. Anonymous7:01 AM

    "While most politicians hedge their bets and refuse to call this act of terrorism an act of terrorism, Bernie Sanders just pointed out the elephant in the room. His refusal to pretend the elephant is not there means the rest of us can’t do so either. So let’s face it: Right-wing hate speech bears some responsibility for what happened in Colorado Springs. To think that Republicans could continously slander Planned Parenthood with lies comparing them to “baby killers” and murderers and not provoke a violent response from some of their least stable supporters is lunacy. Words have consequences."

    1. Until we start holding the rhetoric-spewing hate-mongers equally responsible, charge them and make them stand next to the perpetrators for indictment, it doesn't matter.

      We know why Tiller died and they are still walking free. We know who contributed to Gabby Gifford's shooting. And we know what video set this guy off.

      But will Daleiden be standing next to Dear in court?


      And until he does, these shootings will continue to happen.

    2. Anonymous8:37 AM

      "Until we start holding the rhetoric-spewing hate-mongers equally responsible"

      like Michael Brown's "let's burn this bitch down" stepfather correct?

  10. Anonymous7:03 AM

    A mass shooting inside PP, guns, maybe a homemade bomb, mumbling "no more baby parts", anti-Obama remarks...oh yeah, "the guy's a leftie. Let's protect the left by sealing the records".

  11. Anonymous7:13 AM

    Strangely, all these domstic terrorists are all WHITE. Religious freaks, who seem unable to follow their Lord's teachings to "Love thy neighbor as thyself" The PayMes and French have a lot of nerve, preaching to those of us who are not gun freaks, who believe in live and let live. Bristles should sit down and shut the HELL up. Low morals, yet she wants to preach to others? Learn to keep your legs closed, stop . bringing illigitimate babies into the world. God help the latest baby joining this grifting family of scam artists.

  12. Anonymous7:15 AM

    Blah blah blah, Nancy French and "Bristol." "Mom" was all too happy to whip up the hate, and she can't take it back just because she supposedly found God long enough to sell a stupid book which, by the way, isn't selling.

  13. It will all be revealed at trial. This is the way a case should be handled. Not in the press but in a courtroom.

    1. Anonymous7:44 AM

      I chimed in earlier as well. Colorado Springs might be a red splotch in a now blue state, and folks might be no fans of PP in general, but cops and the local DA's office are going to want to get this guy. Mark my words: the plea will be not guilty by reason of insanity, the DA will go for multiple counts of murder and the death penalty, and a jury will vote to convict. Just look how things played out with James Holmes: found guilty of 24 counts of first-degree murder, and saved from the death penalty by a single hold-out juror. And he was/is batsh*t crazy if ever anybody was batsh*t crazy.

  14. Sharon7:17 AM

    This is sickening, disgusting....outrageous!!!!! If that guy was black he would have been dead! He would be dead in jail by unknown reasons....anyway, anyhow he would be dead. Our media is so lame....this falls in the lap of Carly and those ridiculous lies made on the debate stage and countless interviews, plain and simple. This country is full of homegrown, white terrorists with way too many guns and all you hear about is the women & children fleeing for their lives. When the hell is this country gonna wake the fuck up?????
    All the statistics point to thousands of our regular citizens being murdered.....white religious nutjobs, mentally ill anybodies, anti abortion fanatics can have all the guns they want. Who gets killed? Children killing children by accident, drunks settling an argument, mass shootings anywhere, police acting like the military...when will it end? Is anyone safe in this country outside of your own home?

    1. Anonymous7:59 AM

      No America is NOT safe! We have American white Christian (although they don't act like it or follow the teachings!) terrorists right in our midst and many of us have obtained/purchased guns so we are ready to fight our 'red' enemy once the revolution begins!

      Republicans - extreme right - racists - many sitting in governmental seats throughout our country - lying frauds that have committed treason are the problem!

      And, Donald Trump is using words and lies that create havoc, hate and unrest amongst our population! And, the media is feeding all of it - exaggerating a lot of it! Stay away from all the media outlets - FOX, CNN, MSNBC and some of your local stations that lean to the right! Use the internet where you can research and check for the FACTS!

  15. Anonymous7:39 AM

    I think something is going down and they won't release info till they finish the investigation. They can't prevent it due to the Freedom of Information Act.

  16. Anonymous7:41 AM

    CO Springs is known for the Air Force Academy, Colorado College, and the Promise Keepers. One of those is a liberal arts college. The others are much more emblematic of the city's culture. The Springs are a weird place, so not much surprises me from them.
    --I went to HS in Boulder.

  17. Anonymous7:43 AM

    c4p's pete4palin. This story is just not going the way they want it to, lol

    pete4palin • 4 hours ago
    Ben Carson had to jump on the planned parenthood debate by saying there is "extremism on both sides". Does he have to let the liberals win the rhetoric battle that free speech causes murdering rampages? I would like to hear Palin's thoughts on this.

  18. Anonymous7:44 AM

    There is absolutely no reason to believe that this incident will be the last. The wacko-right should feel a bit like Tippi Hedren with all the birds they have coming home to roost.

  19. Anonymous7:49 AM

    Robert Lewis Dear looks exactly how I picture the lunatic stlouisix to appear over at C4P

  20. Anonymous8:18 AM

    If he was black, he'd be dead.

    1. Anonymous8:50 AM

      Stupid. More whites killed by cops yearly than blacks. You are full of crap.

    2. Anonymous9:32 AM

      You are correct, 7:49 AM!

    3. Anonymous11:06 AM

      You should see John Norton, 7:49 AM!

    4. Anonymous11:25 AM

      Anonymous8:50 AM How many were unarmed at the time? How many were 12 years old playing in a park? I think YOU are full of crap!

  21. Anonymous8:21 AM

    It is a capital murder case....a cop killing in street vernacular.


    1. Anonymous5:07 PM

      And the local cops,not to mention the DA's office, will want this guy to fry, not get off "easy" on an insanity plea.

    2. Does Colorado still have the death penalty?

    3. Anonymous5:00 PM

      Pretty sure they do. The DA went for the death penalty for James Holmes, and didn't get it because a single hold-out juror stood his/her ground.

  22. Anonymous8:24 AM

    Gryphen, this is off topic, but I thought you'd get a kick out of this:

    Most candidates neglect Washington, D.C., when sending out mailers for the Republican presidential primary. So one of the joys of going out of town is seeing what they send unsolicited to people like an 84-year-old retired doctor in Houston, Texas.

    And what 2016 candidate Ben Carson sends, as I learned over Thanksgiving, is a lithograph portrait of himself.

    "Dear John," an enclosed letter reads, "It is an honor for me to count you as a friend. And I do count you as that. In appreciation, I've sent you this very special, very personal portrait. I hope you can see in the portrait what is in my heart -- a love for God, a love of country, and a deep desire to serve both ... and to serve you."

    In a separate letter, again addressed to John, Carson writes that the portrait "was commissioned just so I could give it to you. This makes it very special to me."

    Also enclosed with the lithograph was a four-page letter and fundraising appeal: a pre-paid envelope to send back a check and a Newsmax listicle of "12 Reasons Ben Carson Would Make a Good President."

    1. You know what I read in that statement?

      God (sharia) comes first.

      Country (Constitution) comes second and is subservient to #1

      Citizens are an afterthought.

      Egomaniac commissioned a picture of himself to send to everyone he thinks will vote for him. I'm sure picture, postage and all other costs paid for by his PAC, some of which is Federal tax dollars from that little box you check on your income tax.

      Who is advising this guy? No one is going to read a four page letter begging for money. If you can't do it on one side in a few paragraphs, no one is going to read it.

      Prepaid envelope? Boy, would I wrap the picture and four page letter and mail it back to him just so he has to pay the extra postage.

      I'd like to know some of the reasons Newmax came up with.

      1. He's not Donald Trump.
      2. He's not Ted Cruz.
      3. He's not Carly Fiorina.
      4. He's not Marco Rubio.
      5. He's not Chris Christie.
      6. He's not Mike Huckleberry.
      7. He's not John Kasich.
      8. He's not Jim Gilmore.
      9. He's not Lindsey Graham
      10. He's not George Pataki.
      11. He's not Rand Paul.
      12. He's not Rick Santorum.
      13. He's not Sarah Palin.

  23. Anonymous8:34 AM

    Gryphen's prior post 1st. Then THIS:

    Time to WAKE THE FUCK UP..Timothy McVeigh ring a bell?

  24. Anonymous8:40 AM

  25. Anonymous8:40 AM


    1. Anonymous9:01 AM

      ...The black religious leaders are no longer the main event; Trump Tower is just a way-stop on the road to Georgia and the “big rally” is the thing we should all be excited about.

      Very slick. He would make it the great lie that never was. No wonder he is mad at Chuck Todd, who refused to let him gloss over some other facts Sunday:

    2. He'll still say they support him.

  26. Anonymous8:59 AM

    Republicans Have Blood On Their Hands For Inciting Deadly Domestic Terrorism

    1. About time someone comes out and says it.

  27. Anonymous9:05 AM

    Two words tell you all you need to know:



  28. Anonymous9:07 AM

    I grew up in an uber, UBER Catholic family (just one example, physical mortification-self-flagellation--was a regular thing and considered quite praiseworthy. I could go on.)

    I went to a similar type college, chosen by my parents. One of the male students there was a rising star in Operation Rescue, and was constantly trying to recruit people to bomb the local abortion clinic.

    Now, I would immediately call the police. At 17, I thought it was just The Way Things Are (this guy was considered something of a hero on campus.)

    This anti-Planned Parenthood movement is far more dangerous--and more widespread--than the general public seems to comprehend.

  29. Anonymous9:30 AM

    Ke’Arre Stewart, the Iraq War veteran gunned down by right-wing terrorist Robert Louis Dear on Friday, used his dying moments to tell people inside the building to take cover.

    According to NBC News, Stewart, 29, had stepped outside the building to use his cell phone when he was shot by Dear, who killed two other people and injured nine in the attack. Stewart, a devoted husband and father of two, rushed into the building in spite of his injuries and shouted for everyone to take cover.

    His brother Leyonte Chandler told Today on Monday morning that Stewart’s military training must have compelled him to help others in the line of fire.

    Former wife says Planned Parenthood terrorist is conservative, religious and anti-abortion

    “It never, ever, ever, ever crossed my mind” that he would be capable of a mass shooting, Ross told The Times. “My heart just fell to my stomach.”

  30. Anonymous9:31 AM

    Muslim cab driver shot by passenger ranting about ISIS terrorists

    ...“He started the conversation and began to ask questions like, ‘You seem to be like a Pakistani guy. Are you from Pakistan?’” said the driver, who asked to remain anonymous because he feared for his safety.

    The driver explained he came from Morocco but insisted he was “an American guy” — but that didn’t satisfy the passenger.

    “Then he continued the conversation,” the driver said. “He began to speak about ISIS killing people. I told him ‘Actually, I’m against ISIS. I don’t like them.’ I even told him that they are killing innocent people. I noticed that he changed his tone and he began to satirize Muhammad, my prophet, and began to shift to his personal life. He mentioned that he has two kids and was in prison for some time.”

    When they arrived at the man’s house in Hazelwood, he asked the driver to wait because he had left his wallet inside.

    “I waited for just five minutes, I think, and I noticed that he came out of the house carrying a rifle in his hand,” the driver said. “I noticed him coming toward me. I didn’t hesitate. I [made] a fast decision to leave and drove my taxi away because I felt he was going to do something, there is danger he would shoot me or something. I felt like he had the intention to kill me.”

    The man fired multiple gunshots at the driver’s cab, blasting out the rear window and shooting him in the back.

    1. That guy will never get another Uber again. He'll not only be permanently blacklisted on Uber but probably on Air BnB too.

  31. Anonymous9:32 AM

    He was registered as UAF unaffiliated - not a democrat. Many people register as unaffiliated, for a variety of reasons. Also, there was one voting registration where it was marked female as gender. It most likely was a typo, there is no evidence that he has ever "identified" as female. There is no other evidence suggesting that he identified as female. Transgendered women don't typically grow beards.

    1. You ever seen Chaz Bono?

    2. Usually to avoid jury duty. My Dad did that for years until they changed the law.

  32. Anonymous9:36 AM

    Felon accused of shooting up house full of kids with AK-47 in Oregon county whose sheriff vows to ignore gun laws

    1. I guess the sheriff's kids weren't in the house?

  33. Anonymous9:39 AM

    Paul Ryan Gets SCORCHED On Twitter For His ‘Response’ To The Planned Parenthood Shooting (TWEETS)

    1. Paul Ryan should be scorched on any tweets he sends. You can guess how right wing horrid they will be, then double it. And you'll still be shocked.

  34. Anonymous9:41 AM

    Planned Parenthood Shooting Victims Identified as a Veteran and a Beloved Mother

  35. Anonymous9:46 AM

    Before Shooting, Cruz Touted Endorsement From Activist Who Called For Execution Of Abortion Doctors

    ...But just days before the shooting, Cruz touted the endorsement from an activist who has called for the “execution” of abortion providers. In his 2003 book, Troy Newman said the entire country was “blood-guilty” for their failure to kill “abortionists.”

    In addition to our personal guilt in abortion, the United States government has abrogated its responsibility to properly deal with the blood-guilty. This responsibility rightly involves executing convicted murderers, including abortionists, for their crimes in order to expunge bloodguilt from the land and people. Instead, the act of abortion has been elevated to a “God-given right” and the abortionists canonized as saints. Consequently, the entire nation has the blood-red stain of the lives of the innocent upon its head.

    Rejecting that innocent blood is to reject the only standard that is effective against innocent bloodshed, excluding the lawful execution of the murderers, which is commanded by God in Scripture.

    1. Anonymous10:40 AM

  36. Anonymous10:15 AM

  37. Anonymous10:28 AM

    This dude does not GET is really to bad..

  38. Anonymous10:45 AM

    Americans should stop accepting what the police define as public information.

  39. Anonymous10:51 AM

    Why did they conceal Dear's name and photo on the SexyAds pic? How can we be 100% sure it was him?

  40. Not only this guy is a domestic terrorist, but the KKK is a Terrorist organization as is the Aryan Brotherhood among others. Many so called mainstream churches push the line. They may not actively call for terroristic acts, but the spew the rhetoric that inspires these acts. They may not say it publicly, but many of them secretly support those who do commit these acts.

    1. Anonymous11:49 AM

      Hey, you forgot the NRA.

    2. And Operation Rescue.

  41. Anonymous11:02 AM

    And now they're going for a true theocracy:

    Orrin Hatch wants to tear down the wall of separation between church and state

    n a biting editorial, written for the conservative Washington Times, long-time Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) suggests a novel and literal approach to the First Amendment, arguing that the wall of separation between the state and the church is non-existent despite what the Supreme Court has to say about it.

    Hatch notes that Thomas Jefferson’s position on religious freedom was embodied in his Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, but that his approach to keeping the state and the church separate was a minority opinion at the time. The more dominant view, according to Hatch, was John Adams’ model, which instituted a “mild and equitable establishment of religion” that enshrined “Christian piety and virtue.”

    According to Hatch, since the 1st Amendment specifically states “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” only one “actor” is constrained: the U.S. Congress.

    “On its face, this language affects only one actor, Congress, not states and local governments, and not individual citizens,” Hatch wrote, asserting that the 1st Amendment “…simply limited Congress’ ability to choose a preferred religious sect.

    1. So Hatch thinks this is a state's rights issue and states can institute a state religion?

      Good luck with that.

      I guess he flunked civics since Fed law overrides State law an the Constitution say no establishing a religion.

  42. Anonymous11:22 AM

    This is such an unprofessional wingnut thing to do.
    This is Palinesque policing. Forget professionalism, forget decency, forget the people whose good you're supposed to be serving, just focus on politics and do wtf you want and call it OK.

  43. Anonymous11:49 AM

    1. Anonymous12:45 PM

      Think progress lol. They conveniently leave 9-11 out of that study, and basically consider any time a white nut-job picks up a gun to be 'terror'. I'll take my chances with the American nut jobs over the muslims thank you.

  44. My mother was friends with Emily Lyons, the nurse who was critically injured in the 1998 bombing in Birmingham, Ala at a women's clinic. The bomber was Eric Rudolph. Her injuries were horrific. She and her husband documented the wounds, surgeries and her long battle back to recovery to show the true damage done to the ones "lucky" enough to survive the attack. Here are the pictures, but be warned, they are extremely graphic'

    Here is her web site.

  45. Anonymous2:51 PM

    It's Colorado Springs, it's a lot like the palin family, dark & secretive. High powered rich gotp Broadmoor people own the CSPD and the mayor.

  46. Anonymous3:15 PM

    Tensions are a bit high in The Springs.

  47. Can they be forced to release details under Freedom of Information?


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