Wednesday, March 02, 2016

After the Super Tuesday results the road to victory for Bernie Sanders seems more filled with obstacles than ever before.

My daughter and I sat here in my office last night and watched the returns.

To say that the debate became passionate would be an understatement.

One of the main points of contention was the question of Bernie's path moving forward.

My personal take was that it was now virtually non-existent.

And it seems I am not alone in that perception.

Courtesy of the New York Times:

Bernie Sanders has vowed to fight for the presidential nomination until the Democratic convention, but the results this evening suggest that he is not anywhere close to being on track to amass a majority of pledged delegates. 

Hillary Clinton’s landslide margins in the South and her competitiveness elsewhere translate to an overall lead of around 15 to 20 percentage points nationwide. Her support is anchored by a huge advantage among black voters, who represent nearly a quarter of Democratic voters and have offered her more than 80 percent of their votes — a tally rivaling or even exceeding the share won by Barack Obama in 2008. 

Mr. Sanders, despite pockets of strength, has not fared well enough to overcome such a huge deficit among black voters. 

Not even a few feel-good wins in states like Colorado, Minnesota and Oklahoma will change that. Mr. Sanders would have needed big wins in these states — by much more than 20 percentage points — to entertain the possibility of overcoming his enormous deficit in the South, where the majority of Democrats are African-American.

Here's more courtesy of The Guardian:  

It’s time for some cold hard truths in this presidential election. 

Here’s an ice cold one: winning a landslide victory in the mighty state of Vermont is not a foundation for success. Especially if Vermont has been your home since the Jurassic age of politics. 

Here’s another: if you hold a victory rally before most of the states have been called, you’re not fooling anyone. When your victorious supporters have emptied the hall before the TV pundits have barely warmed up, you’re actually throwing a consolation party.

And a little more from Fivethirtyeight: 

To borrow a phrase from Dan Rather, Hillary Clinton swept through the South like a big wheel through a Delta cotton field on Super Tuesday. She won seven states total, including Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia in the South. She also won Massachusetts and American Samoa. Bernie Sanders emerged victorious in four states (Colorado, Minnesota, Oklahoma and Vermont), but his victories tended to come by smaller margins and in smaller states. The end result is that Clinton has a clear path to winning the nomination, and Sanders’s only hope to derail her is for something very unusual to happen.

There are of course a few articles claiming that Sanders is still in the game, but only a handful. 

My daughter was adamant last night that Bernie supporters would never show up to the polls for Hillary, but I was just as adamant that she did not need them, and if they were GOOD Democrats they would vote for the candidate representing the party.

Like I said, it got passionate.

So what do all of you think?

Is this race coming to an end soon, or does Bernie have what it takes to disappoint Hillary for the second time in eight years?

167 comments:

  1. Anonymous2:02 PM

    Sorry to OT here, Gryph, but think you should see this:
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    Wasilla lawmaker in charge of 'Senior Benefits" cutback said fixed income seniors should consider leaving Alaska:

    http://www.ktva.com/wasilla-lawmaker-fixed-income-seniors-should-consider-leaving-alaska-422/

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    1. Caroll Thompson2:27 PM

      Google that Legislator 2:02 - Lynn Gattis. She is a legislator on the take with a $65,000 deal selling land she didn't own to the MatSu Borough. And then there is her son. She didn't do a good job raising him and he is doing hard time in prison now.

      And right there in the googles, you learn that she and Sarah are friends. Who knew, right? What is in the water up there in Wasilla?

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    2. Anonymous2:32 PM

      I live here and for now I live here full time as I own a business, but I don't think many of us age 50 and older plan to stay here full time anyway. There are 8 wonderful months and 4 months where it's nice to be away from here.

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    3. Anonymous2:52 PM

      Yea, and this is the same gal whose son was just sentenced to jail for a long period of time.

      Another Wasillian - kinda like Sarah Palin? I only see two 'mothers' that show themselves not to be good examples of motherhood!

      How did either one of them ever get elected to anything? Must be the water in Wasilla!

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    4. Somehow Cruz won Alaska last night in the Primary GOP race. Too many ex-Texans in Alaska to provide a good race! Somehow, someway, Alaska needs to turn Blue!

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    5. Anonymous4:39 PM

      Gryphen, My Son is about your Daughters age and he is for Bernie but says if Hilliary wins the primary he will "hold his nose and vote for Hillary"
      I think its time for Bernie to close down his campaign and campaign for Hillary, the specter of a Trump potus is too horrid and we need all all hands on board. Hillary is no Dummy and indeed got the message about everyone not wanting a Same old, same old as potus. However these same Bernie people were Obots who got mad because potus didn't do this or that the same Progressives that didn't show up to vote for a decent congress! Bernie would be in the SAME situation as OBAMA with this scum sucking congress and senate. He couldn't get anything done and these obots/Berniebros would be complaining in two years and whaaaa i'm not gonna vote (Senate/congress) and the Same old shit happens, over and over.
      We must unite and some of these Bernie bros who are saying "Bernie or nothing" are Right-wing operatives who would LOVE TO KEEP US from voting for HILLARY!
      If Bernie joined Hillary it would indeed present a united and stable front vs the GOP who is in deep shit with a possible Trump winning the primaries.
      Just as when Stupid Sarah came on board with McCain and I heard so many people indy, hardcore Repubs who voted for Obama rather than have that meth-freak and her family anywhere near the WH!
      And again the door will slam shut on her "dreams" of getting near the WH with Chump.
      Somebody is going to pull a rabbit out their ass and chump will be gone. Who knows it may even been his associations with certain people who are national pimps, who actually pimp a secret service and faked a DS pregnancy and her daughter is trying to lure a MOH to sign off as babydaddy...oh so many things can take down chump, even all his bankruptcies and tax paper.

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    6. Anonymous4:52 PM

      Gatto, wasn't that guy the Fire chief who hid evidence in the WBC fire? And THEN he was a Senator and made the law about dead babies and birthcertificates? Some odd and (Palin related) when she was gino?

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    7. Anonymous5:01 PM

      4:39 the problem with that is she will never pick Bernie... her master's will not allow that... think about how a senator from Illinois beat the pants off of her...

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    8. Anonymous5:11 PM

      Who wants to bet when the above with happen?
      Right before the convention?When is their convention?
      They will have to nominate Cruz or if he is not a "natural born" Romney or ?
      It will have to be before their convention but not too much before b/c tRump will go rogue.
      They will have to take him out by associations or "something".
      I think that David Duke and Rogue Sarah Palin with her pimp husband, and the Faked pregnancy and the brawl, Tricks Women beating, Brissie fake DNA test, all of 'em any of 'em could be a yoooooge scandal for Trumpster.
      Yesterday I was LOL as all the msm it seemed were like "The emperor has no clothes" elloooooo!
      It would be a debacle of epic proportions! Isn't that what Stevo said about Sarah?

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  2. Anonymous2:08 PM

    Go Bernie Go. Hillary won mostly red stated that will stay red in the fall. You are the peoples candidate mot the candidate of the old elites and monied interests.

    If Hillary is the nominee Hello President Trump.

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    1. Anonymous2:23 PM

      I guess you Bernie people have never heard of purple states. Or turning states purple. This is a false meme. Do you really think Bernie is going to take Oklahoma in a general election? By the way, both Bernie and HRC each got MORE VOTES than Trump in Oklahoma, if that's your bellwether states.

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    2. Anonymous4:34 PM

      Bernie can't seem to win a state that isn't 90% white. Hmmm, sorry, you no longer can win elections that way and neither can KKK Trump.

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    3. Anonymous4:55 PM

      @Anonymous2:23 PM
      its a Berniebro aka RWoperative. Only THEY would be so STUPID to suggest Bernie or nothing. Sorry bro no go!
      VOTEBLUEWHATEVERYOUDO

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  3. Boscoe2:09 PM

    Yeah, I don't see how Bernie wins it at this point. Hillary isn't my first choice, but I'll vote for her if she's the nominee. If other Bernie supporters are so stupid and petulant that they don't bother to vote at all, they may just end up with Trump...

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    1. Anonymous2:26 PM

      Let them vote for Trump if they are really that dumb. (Sorry, but I know that not all Bernie supporters will go that route. I'm married to one who will vote HRC in the fall.)

      If they are true Democrats, they will vote for the Democratic nominee.

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    2. Anonymous2:34 PM

      As Trump recently was quoted "everything is negotiable". I don't think a Trump presidency would be the end of the world, he'll moderate, he'll have to in order to govern.

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    3. Anonymous3:08 PM

      2:34 - He's a fascist xenophobe who hates the non-elites, but sure, he'll be great. He only has 5 policy papers on his website though. http://billmoyers.com/story/how-the-us-went-fascist-mass-media-makes-excuses-for-trump-voters

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    4. Anonymous3:22 PM

      He'll delegate to his advisors and whichever nightmare he chooses as his running mate (I can't even imagine). Then, if he quits or gets impeached, that nightmare will be President.

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    5. Anonymous3:41 PM

      Anonymous2:34 PM,
      That's what they said about W. He won't be so bad.

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    6. Anonymous4:36 PM

      Any voter that states they want a progressive and then votes for Trump was never a progressive.

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    7. Anonymous4:37 PM

      @ anon 2:34 pm
      I'm guessing you are white.

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    8. Anonymous4:57 PM

      Anonymous2:34 PM
      Hey there!!!
      Wow, so you believe him huh? I have a bridge to sell you in Alasssska!
      How about it? You seem dumb enough to bite.

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  4. Anonymous2:14 PM

    Bernie is over. He will stay in to push "the left" agenda to the convention. But he has no path to real victory. The Revolution is nowhere to be seen.

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    1. Anonymous2:34 PM

      Oh, we're going to have a revolution all right, just not the one the Hillary supporters think we are.

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    2. Anonymous3:08 PM

      2:34 - Nothing like a "mystery revolution," 2:34. Bring it.

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    3. Anonymous3:43 PM

      Anonymous2:34 PM,

      Good luck to you. I hope you are happy with what you accomplish.

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    4. Anonymous5:00 PM

      Anonymous2:34 PM

      Oh, we're going to have a revolution all right, just not the one the Hillary supporters think we are.
      ***
      Wow! You Bernie bros sound just like the Teabaggers! A movement!
      I got some exlax for ya!

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  5. Even if Sanders doesn't get the nominee, I am hoping that his presence will push Clinton leftward. She cannot win as well as she would like unless she takes his positions and his supporters seriously.

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  6. Anonymous2:19 PM

    You should see a map of Massachusetts -- the entire state is Bernie blue, with just a few dots of Clinton red. She won by the narrowest of margins -- the city votes put her on top. But it would be fair to say that it was a squeaker. In the very bluest blue town in this blue state, she passed Bernie by just 47 votes, and a few more college students showing up for the primary would have turned the tide.
    They're studying for their midterms, which must be more important.
    Her "victory" in Massachusetts was razor-thin. No one loves her. But, if it's Trump or Clinton in November, there's no contest.
    Even die-hard Republicans who can't vote for either are talking about write-ins.

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    1. Anonymous3:09 PM

      Oh, too bad the Bernie Revolution couldn't turn out in his neighboring state of MA! So sad!!!! Hurry, Revolutionaries! Hurry!

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    2. Anonymous3:18 PM

      Why the scare quotes around "victory?" She won. That's a victory.

      I'd love to see your data on "no one loves her."

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    3. Anonymous3:29 PM

      Too bad a city person's vote is worth the same as a rural person's vote. Otherwise, Bernie would have won.

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    4. Anonymous3:56 PM

      Anonymous3:09 PM,

      Really, there's no need to belittle people. Bernie supporters are idealistic and trying to do the right thing. Let's just hope their ideals don't get in the way and result in a Trump presidency and getting us all killed.

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    5. Anonymous4:40 PM

      @ anon 3:56pmn if you define idealistic as being misogynists and racists.

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  7. Anonymous2:19 PM

    I think your daughter is wrong. Every one of the people I know who want Bernie have said they will vote for Hilary if she is the candidate.

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    1. Anonymous3:19 PM

      Some idiot who was complaining about Elizabeth Warren on her FB page said he if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, he will vote for Jill Stein or Donald Trump. The cognitive dissonance is off the charts.

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  8. Caroll Thompson2:20 PM

    If the Bernie voters won't vote for Hillary, who will they vote for?

    To G's daughter: I am 60 years old and it wasn't until 2008 that I voted FOR a President and not against whomever he was running against. The lesson being is that for most elections, you have to hold your nose and vote.

    There is too much at stake to stay home.

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  9. Anonymous2:23 PM

    A Republican president appointing Supreme Court judges means we go back to coat hanger abortions in the back alleys.

    There is no excuse for voting Republican.

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  10. Anonymous2:26 PM

    We won't know until November, that is the only thing I'm certain of.

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  11. Pierre L'Enfant2:29 PM

    I'm a Bernie supporter who has no qualms at all about supporting Clinton if Bernie does not get the nomination. Bernie supporters who will not support the eventual Democratic nominee are not Democrats at all. They are Republicans in denial.

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    1. Anonymous4:34 PM

      Here, here! I'm a Hillary supporter who has always been ready to vote for Bernie if he's the nominee. There's really not much he could do to make himself less appealing than any of the Republicans, and I like him anyway.

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  12. Anonymous2:30 PM

    Get bent you lame ass progressive

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    1. Anonymous3:10 PM

      Um, really helpful comment. Thanks for your always incisive analysis.

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  13. I think your post is a fair assessment. I am Bernie crazy, but will vote for Hillary.
    (And I used to be a Goldwater girl.)
    Anything to stop Trump. Anything.
    Looking at Costa Rica, Mexico, or Ecuador.
    Que lastima!

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    1. Anonymous3:15 PM

      I found Goldwater appalling- but I was a kid and didn't really educate myself. Fast forward 30 years and my daughter won a Goldwater scholarship. Definitely raised my opinion of Barry.

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    2. Anonymous4:45 PM

      According to mos Bernie supporters that would make you a GOldwater skank.

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  14. Anonymous2:34 PM

    Yes and no. Barring something remarkable and not seen before, Hilary will win. But I hope Bernie stays in teh race. I'm not sure he ever wanted to be President, or thought it was likely. But he is about hte best Loyal OPposition, with all the good that comes from being Loyal Opposition, that I have seen in the U.S., and I think it makes Hillary a better candidate, and also skews the positions to the left, which I also think is good. I expect Bernie will go for quite a while, maybe to the end, and will have fulfilled his primary intention when this started. And I am grateful that HIllary will win the nomination, and that Bernie has forced issues and conversations that needed to be had.

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    1. Anonymous4:45 PM

      LOL Bernie is padding his retirement and nothing more.

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  15. I agree that Bernie Sanders has little chance of winning the nomination, but I'm glad he's staying in the race. I'm a Hillary supporter, but I think we all need to hear ( and heed) Bernie's message about income inequality and the shift of wealth to the wealthy.
    I'll certainly vote for him if he wins the nomination. I hope some of us older folks can convince the younger generation of the importance of voting for whomever the Democratic nominee is. We need to counteract the negative picture the right wing is painting of Hillary. We also need to respect and embrace the enthusiasm of the young.

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    1. Anonymous3:01 PM

      I agree that Sanders should stay in the race as long as he needs and wants to. It doesn't necessarily look good for him in terms of winning the nomination, but it's still early.

      The problem is that some of his followers are getting more and more angry and are throwing tantrums left and right.

      Just look how they've gone after Elizabeth Warren for daring not to endorse either candidate. There are a lot of vicious comments on her FB page from people who only a couple weeks ago were holding their support of her up as proof they actually want a female pres, just not Clinton. Warren decides not to endorse Sanders and stay neutral and all of a sudden she's a sellout, a shill, and a coward and they will be donating to her opponent when she's up for reelection.

      Meanwhile, Sanders feeds their hatred by insisting that Hillary Clinton thought she'd be "anointed," but that's not going to happen. Now I'm not so sure he's going to put his support behind Clinton if (when) she becomes the nominee.

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    2. Anonymous3:02 PM

      I've read quite a few of his jackass supporters claiming they will vote for Trump if Sanders loses or drops out.

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    3. Anonymous3:12 PM

      If they vote for Trump, I say wave goodbye to them. They were never really Democrats anyway. We can win it without them. We already are.

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    4. Anonymous4:00 PM

      All that bullshit bitch ass gryphens sheep are saying about Bernie was the same shit they said about Obama... fucking gryphen is a propagandists for Hillary.. won't write about the other side the yuge rallies and how almost 60% of the populace finds her to be dishonest and not trustworthy... if you vote for her because she is the lesser of two evils than you are a fool... rather have this country go down fast with a POS like trump instead of a slow death with that POS shit clinton...

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    5. Anonymous4:10 PM

      You're a selfish bastard, 4:00.

      Do you have children or grandchildren?

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    6. Anonymous4:13 PM

      And the whole we are not democrats is correct.. we are Progressives... and fuck no we won't vote for Hillary

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    7. Anonymous4:22 PM

      Hey sheep at 4:10 I have integrity because you don't, doesn't make me selfish

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    8. Anonymous4:35 PM

      And if Hillary wins nom I will vote for the green peace party...

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    9. Anonymous4:48 PM

      @ anon 4:13 pm
      Then vote for Trump and have your rights taken away one by one. Personally as a dual citizen, I've already had my share of time doing sit-ins and marches. Go ahead and redo what was done for you. I'll be in Calgary and vacationing in Cuba.

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    10. Anonymous5:07 PM

      4:13 both parties are the same they do what their donors ask. Just ask Debbie Wasserman Shultz head of the doc.. fucking sheep easily led to the slaughter

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    11. Anonymous5:12 PM

      Is that you, Elijia Free?

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    12. Anonymous5:14 PM

      No, sorry to break it to you, but you are selfish and throwing a tantrum like a three year old.

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    13. Anonymous5:16 PM

      I've got two daughters and four nieces and I will be voting for whichever Democrat wins the nomination. There is too much at stake for their future.

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    14. Anonymous5:20 PM

      5:14 I'm selfish... too funny.my people live in squalor on reservations across America and I'm selfish... must be nice to be white

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    15. Anonymous5:26 PM

      I thought you left, never to return, Elijiah Free.

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    16. Anonymous5:27 PM

      It's funny because I was just about to say to you, it must be nice to be male.

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    17. Anonymous6:57 PM

      Elijiah Free can't quit us!

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    18. Anonymous7:03 PM

      4:13 - right. You're not Democrats or progressives; you're left wing libertarians (the tipoff is your "scorched earth" strategy.)

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    19. Anonymous9:29 PM

      Agreed 4:00, 4:13

      Hillary and Bernie are NOT interchangeable!

      I am 100% confident that Bernie will be the candidate to run against the Republicans and win. The income equality issues are very real to the Trump supporters, and I believe that there will be some of Donald's camp that will vote Bernie in the end as well. Bernie also has a strong following among non-Democrats (Independents, undeclared) than does Hillary.

      We also don't know which of those threatening a 3rd party run actually do it, so never fear, there may be a non-HRC/non-Trump choice in the end anyway.

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    20. Anonymous9:47 PM

      @ anon 5:20 pm
      Well Bernie had no time for a Native American activist in Minnesota the other day. BTW you aren't the only Native American on this board. I will vote for Hillary and proudly do so.
      Signed
      Little Rabbit.

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    21. Anonymous5:39 AM

      I'm not voting for Bernie Sanders just because some asshole Trump supporters might also vote for him.

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    22. Anonymous7:06 AM

      I call bullshit on you 5:20 oh wait your Cherokee right? Blue eyed white Cherokee.. makes sense

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    23. Anonymous7:29 AM

      5:20 little rabbit is the best you could come up with....

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    24. Anonymous8:07 AM

      Little Rabbit has been commenting here for years and has mentioned her Native heritage a few times.

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    25. Anonymous8:11 AM

      You seem like a really unpleasant person, 7:06/7:29, etc.. I know you don't care about our opinion and I'm sure your family and friends love you and enjoy your company, but you've been nothing but a royal jerk in these comment threads.

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  16. Anonymous2:37 PM

    Donald trump Jr grants 20 min interview with white supremacists. See Raw Story


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  17. Anonymous2:38 PM

    Timewise, there's still a long way to go. A long time for "something very unusual" to happen. And it almost always does. Not always, but almost always. Something totally unexpected that changes everything. Or at least a lot.

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    1. Anonymous4:08 PM

      Yes, it always does doesn't it. The unpredictability of it all is quite scary.

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  18. Anonymous2:41 PM

    I think it's becoming obvious, unless there is a Bernie miracle out there, Clinton will be the nominee. If we really want to win the presidency, Sanders will have to end his campaign soon and back Clinton; urging his people and informing them of the consequences of not voting.

    Only he can convince them, and I hope he realizes this very soon.

    Mildred

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  19. A J Billings2:43 PM

    Bernie gave it a good fight, but the dream can't happen in an America filled with evangelical WASPs that hate blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, and most of all athiests from Vermont.

    DrumpF is the perfect illustration of hate, anger, fecklessnes, ignorance, bigotry, and outright stupidity.

    No wonder the hideous old Hag from Wasilla likes DrumpF!

    Paylin and DrumpF are the same kind of viciously nasty narcisstic criminals.

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    1. Anonymous4:49 PM

      Bernie could have done much better if HE had cared about us minorities or woman. He has only won whitebread states for a reason and that reason is Bernie Sanders.

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    2. Anonymous6:03 PM

      4:49 that's the lamest comment I've heard, you win internet idiot of the day

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    3. Anonymous9:32 PM

      for 4.49

      I am a women over 50, and have supported Bernie since he first announced he was running. I am still waiting for the opportunity to vote when my state's time comes up...

      So count me as a minority yet to be counted!!!

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    4. Anonymous9:48 PM

      @ anon 6:03pm
      Oh,m you got your panties in a wad tonight Elijia?

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  20. Anonymous2:46 PM

    Bernie Sanders is done.

    As are Ted Cruz and Rubio.

    Don't understand why people coming in second and third think they have a shot at being 'first' this election cycle.

    Hard to give up, I guess! Or, perhaps I don't understand the election process?

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  21. Anonymous2:48 PM

    With Hillary only about 200 pledged delegates ahead at this time it is foolish to say Either one has a lock on this race.

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    1. Anonymous3:14 PM

      Um, no. Bernie's turnout has not grown. In fact, it's peaked. And she has a lot more super delegates.

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  22. Anonymous2:50 PM

    Gryphen, I disagree with your statement " .... if they were GOOD Democrats they would vote for the candidate representing the party." If they care about the future of the country, if they want to see education, clean energy and climate change addressed, if they care about the disabled, poor and elderly... then they will vote for the Democratic candidate.
    -meh

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  23. Anonymous2:50 PM

    Why is Bernie Sanders now running for president? He will be 75 if he takes office.

    He has been in politics for 25 years or so and now he wants to run? We don't need a president who needs his cookies and warm milk at 9pm before he has to go to sleep.

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    1. Anonymous3:24 PM

      My thoughts exactly. He has been a great cheerleader for the progressive cause but at 75 it's just a little too late to be thinking of him as an 8 year term president. Hillary will make a great progressive leader without a doubt. I'm for Hillary all the way.

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    2. London Bridges4:37 PM

      Hillary will be 69 and had a significant brain injury after falling down stairs.

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    3. Anonymous5:03 PM

      Significant brain injury? I never thought I'd see the day that liberals were using Breibart talking points. Congratulations!

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    4. London Bridges2:19 AM

      A concussion, particularly for an elderly person can lead to Alzheimer's disease. Reagan was shot, literally dead for a time and then developed Alzheimer's. Otherwise he was healthy as a horse.

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    5. London Bridges2:22 AM

      Reagan was also 69 when he was inaugurated.

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    6. Anonymous5:33 AM

      Reagan was shot in the chest. Are you saying he was clinically dead? Reports say he never even lost consciousness and actually walked into the hospital.

      Being shot in the chest did not cause his Alzheimer's.

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  24. Anonymous2:56 PM

    UGHHHH WHY ARE PEOPLE TRUSTING SOCIOPATHS LIKE THE CLINTONS.

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    1. Anonymous3:14 PM

      Because we don't trust people who use all caps.

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    2. Anonymous3:18 PM

      GO BACK TO DRUDGE TROLL.

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  25. Anonymous2:56 PM

    About that Lousiville Trump rally

    People keep putting in their two cents about this video. I held mine in for a while. No, she should not have been shoved. But the media doesn't show you everything. I was there. I had media credentials and was on the riser and had a view of the entire event, including all 75 or so people who were kicked out of this event. If say about 5 of them were blacks. This lady wasn't being peaceful. She was jumping around and bumping into old people, screaming in people's faces, etc. It has nothing to do with the color of her skin. The media hasn't mentioned the two white guys, ONE WEARING A HOMEMADE KKK HOOD, that were immediately kicked out. Or the other 70 something people. Protestors went to this event with the intentions to cause an uproar and intimidate and harass the Trump supporters. Why wouldn't the Trump supporters defend what they believe in? Wouldn't you? No matter what side you're on, there is always two sides to every story. I'll post pictures soon of the massive amounts of white people who were escorted out for interrupting the rally, and then you guys can put your race card away for another day.

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    1. Nice try 2:56.

      But I can see for myself what she did and what many did to her on the video that was released. I can also read her statements and those of the white supremacist Matthew Heimbach who was one of the men who assaulted the young woman. The Trump supporters' actions were despicable.

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  26. Anonymous2:56 PM

    Really? Bernie supporters will have a snit and stay home if Hillary gets the nomination? Ok, then don't coming whining if trump wins and appoints the second coming of scalia to the supreme court; helps repeal Obama Care and we go back to insurance companies doing it the old way again; see further erosion or backward trend for voting rights, women's rights, LGBT rights. Are u listening to him? He said he would make a great commander in chief because he went to a military prep school. This is who u want in charge of the lives of our military? His son is doing interviews with white supremacists, for Christ's sake. Mussolini and Hitler are sitting in hell going "Damn, this guy is good". To those who say they will stay home, grow up. Continue to be involved and work for the change u want. But staying at home in November will push u further from that change.

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    1. Anonymous3:12 PM

      If Trump wins, they will blame Clinton, Clinton supporters, women, and minorities.

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  27. I mailed in my ballot for Bernie on Monday. (I'm in AZ) So, getting out of the way that I support Bernie right now, I am inclined to agree with you, Dad. I think his road became much more uphill. Speaking strictly for myself, OF COURSE I will vote for Hillary in November if she is the choice of the Dem primary voters. And I suspect that many others who are saying they won't vote for anyone but Bernie will come around once Bernie starts urging them to put the good of the country first.

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    1. Anonymous3:11 PM

      Let's hope Bernie does that.

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    2. Anonymous3:16 PM

      Yes, I look forward to Bernie bringing his followers to the voting booths in November for HRC. Really eager to see how he manages that. (Fingers crossed!)

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  28. Anonymous2:57 PM

    Bernie has the money to continue on and he has vowed to do so. If he can't win the nomination, he wants to impact the convention and platform and with a large number of delegates, he can do so. It is also possible for some of the super delegates to switch sides if they want. I don't think he will win the nomination, but it is interesting to me how much the MSM wants him to lose and how soon they began writing his obituary. Don't count him out yet. He doesn't have anything to lose by soldering on.

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  29. How does the notion "Bernie voters will never vote for Hillary" change the calculus of Clinton's path to the nomination, pray tell?

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    1. Anonymous3:10 PM

      I've seen plenty of Sanders supporters use that notion as a threat.

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    2. Anonymous9:50 PM

      It doesn't change anything, though the Bernie Bros think it does.

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  30. Anonymous3:04 PM

    I certainly admire Bernie but he would be the candidate the crazed right would tear apart. He is a likable old guy no doubt but the 'free' stuff does not work for me.

    As a true progressive I will certainly support the Dem candidate but really hoping it will be Hillary 2016.

    Older and wiser.

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  31. Anonymous3:21 PM

    Any chance there could be a Clinton-Sanders ticket?

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    1. Anonymous9:52 PM

      Nope, usually the VP is from a different region of the country to garner more "home state/ home area" votes to the ticket. It would be utter stupidity to pick a Pres/VP ticket with both from the same region such as the NE on a Clinton/Sanders ticket.

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  32. Anonymous3:23 PM

    Who are the Bernie voters who won't vote for Clinton? What would they have done if Bernie hadn't entered the race? Did they vote in 2012 and 2014? Do they realize Sanders is running as a Democrat? I would very much like to understand their logic and expectations.

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  33. Anonymous3:28 PM

    Bernie Sanders looks like the ghost of presidents past.

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    1. Anonymous3:35 PM

      The ghosts of presidents past looks younger compared to Sanders.

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  34. Jim in Texas3:30 PM

    Does Bernie have what it takes to disappoint Hillary for the second time in eight years?

    Only by going full-bore spoiler with nonsense like the unending Wall Street innuendo and thereby stirring his supporters up to the point where they stay home in November. And then we ALL lose.

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    1. Anonymous3:44 PM

      Amen.

      Drop out Bernie. You've broken your own pledge not to go negative.

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    2. Anonymous3:55 PM

      Exactly. I'm beginning to wonder if that was his goal all along just to make a point.

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    3. Anonymous4:56 PM

      You do know if Bernie drops or if Shrillary wins the nom that most of us Bernie folks are just going for Trump; Bern it down, for real, bern it down and start from scratch.

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    4. Anonymous5:20 PM

      I'm sure the "Bernie folks" appreciate you speaking on their behalf.

      (eyeroll)

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  35. Anonymous3:42 PM

    Gryphen, maybe ask your daughter these questions:
    1. Would she be cool with a SC that makes abortion illegal?
    2. Would she be cool with ACA being repealed?
    3. Would she be cool with climate change deniers in charge of America?
    4. Would she feel safer with a big beautiful wall on our southern border?
    5. Does she support men who call women bimbos and Mexicans, raptists?
    If she answers yes to these, then yes, she should not vote for Clinton. Stand her ground.

    Ask her if she thinks MLK or John Lewis gave up after their first attempts at change?

    Bernie is now going so negative, it is counter-productive to the party. His artful smear is not only not winning him votes from democrats, it plays right into Karl Rove/Koch Brothers hands.

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    1. Well to be clear my daughter has every intention of voting for Hillary is she wins the nomination.

      And I told her I would do the same if Bernie won.

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  36. Anonymous3:43 PM

    There is nothing wrong with Sanders being a politician for almost 30 years spending time away from his wife and family and now at 75 years old wants to be president. If the man doesn't want to spend what's left of his golden years with his wife, children, grandchildren and great grandchildren and wants to stay away from his wife and marriage then who are we to judge his marriage?

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  37. Only pitiful Bernie supporters would whine like Republican bitches if Hillary gets the nod. Funny thing is, they expect full support for Bernie from Hillary supporters, if he gets the nod. I believe that the Bernieboys are really Trump maggots, trying to divide the voters. You see, anyone with a brain knows that Trump is an asshole, and his supporters are racist bigots. No way would any Democrat with a brain would allow their touchy feelings vote for Trump, no matter who wins the Democrat nod. Btw, when Trump said that he loved the poorly educated, I really believe that he was talking about Sara.

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  38. Anonymous3:55 PM

    I’m with your daughter on this one. There is nothing that would entice me to vote for Hillary, my conscience won’t let me. That’s even if she’s still available by the general election because with an FBI investigation hanging over her head she could be indicted at any point along this timeline to November.

    See what you think of this writer’s logic:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/2/1494384/-Why-Bernie-Sanders-Won-Super-Tuesday

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    1. Anonymous4:12 PM

      Is that you Karl Rove?

      Only a true republican would worry about the 30-year "indictment-any-day" meme.

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    2. Anonymous4:15 PM

      I look forward to voting for Hillary Clinton. FBI investigation - sounds like a 'set up' to me. How convenient! Election time!

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    3. Anonymous4:55 PM

      I won't vote for her either, if she is the nominee. I'd vote Trump and just "blow it all up" and see what happens. How bad can it be? In fact, it could be rather interesting to call him on all of his bluffs.

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    4. Anonymous6:04 PM

      The FBI is investigating, but they're not investigating Hillary Clinton- that's only what the Sanders and wingnut crowds are trying to have you believe.

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    5. Anonymous6:37 PM

      Gryphen posted upthread (after your OP) that his daughter WILL vote for Clinton if Sanders doesn't get the nom. So, I guess you're not with her.

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    6. Anonymous7:27 PM

      FYI to 4:12 Nothing about this is 30 years old. This was in today's paper:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-clinton-email-investigation-justice-department-grants-immunity-to-former-state-department-staffer/2016/03/02/e421e39e-e0a0-11e5-9c36-e1902f6b6571_story.html

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    7. Anonymous8:43 PM

      7:27 - they have tried to stop her for 30 years. Fact.

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    8. Anonymous10:34 PM

      The case hase been building around Hillary, she is yet to be questioned but not for long likely.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/us/politics/as-presidential-campaign-unfolds-so-do-inquiries-into-hillary-clintons-emails.html?_r=0

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    9. Anonymous5:22 AM

      The case has not been building around her. Are you privy to information that has not been reported anywhere, because this article says nothing of the sort.

      It's an inquiry and the investigators are going through the usual steps to gather information.

      You sound like Trey Gowdy.

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    10. Anonymous8:10 AM

      FBI conducts criminal investigations 5:22. I will be sure to come back here and lol at you if and when Hillary faces charges.

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  39. Anonymous4:05 PM

    I have an idea! The Republican Party can choose Hillary at their convention!

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/02/1494710/-Hillary-Lost-My-Vote-in-Honduras

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  40. Anonymous4:10 PM

    You don't effect a revolution solely by running for the presidency. What has Bernie Sanders done over the course of his public career to elect progressives to state offices and to Congress?

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    1. Anonymous4:59 PM

      Well there's .....
      What about um .....
      There was the time ....
      I got nothing

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    2. Anonymous6:02 PM

      And a revolution is not generally 'effected' in isolation, it's usually way more organic, like any other movement.

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  41. Anonymous4:15 PM

    If you are going to judge Sanders family lifestyle then you better not be a defender of Sarah Palin who spends a lot of time away from somebody's DS child. Whenever Sarah leaves town something always happens to her family. While in Hawaii, Sarah gets a call from the police that Willow was in a house that was broken into. Sarah spent a lot of time away from her family and Willow had to settle on getting her GED instead of spending her senior year in school. Oldest unwed high school daughter took her son to her high school graduation and ends up with another child from a second man she's not married to. While Sarah is away from her family chasing after Donald Trump, her drunk son gets arrested for domestic violence, threatened to commit suicide, beat his girlfriend in the face while kicking her. Can't forget a former prostitute outed Sarah's husband as her pimp. So far not one adult child in college. Almost forgot about the Palin Family Drunken Brawl which Sarah arrived with her brawling family. Is that why Sarah spent her time away from her children and husband?

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  42. Anonymous4:16 PM

    I do hope and believe that Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic candidate. But I also hope she holds on to Bernie's campaign for as long as possible. Because when he's gone, there is no rational person for her to talk with in public about important issues of politics and government.

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    1. Anonymous6:06 PM

      She did say some time ago at a debate or town hall meeting that if she won the nomination the first person she'd talk with would be Bernie Sanders.

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  43. Anonymous4:19 PM

    O/T

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  44. Please check out this video by TYT. You may change your mind about Bernie's ability to pull off a win. https://youtu.be/PdWd0wV44mk

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  45. Anita Winecooler4:55 PM

    I've been for Hillary, but would have bitten my tongue and voted for Bernie if things went that way. I refuse to waste my privilege to vote, and in all fairness, there isn't too much daylight between Hillary and Bernie.

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    1. Anonymous7:36 PM

      There is a world of difference in integrity between Hillary and Bernie.

      That's why I trust my vote with Bernie Sanders!

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  46. Crystal Sage6:02 PM

    Bernie reminds me of that grumpy old neighbor who goes out to get his morning newspaper in his faded carpet bathrobe. Later, at the local coffee shop he bores the hell out of everyone complaining about everything that is wrong in America.

    Why didn't Bernie run for president twenty years ago, when he was younger? Or any other time in the past couple of decades? Seems like he chose this election cycle to proudly wear his carpet bathrobe of old timey librul credentials. Too late, Bernie. You're simply the Grumpy Old Man in the neighborhood, yelling at people while Donald Trump is moving towards consolidating his imperial power.

    Frankly, I'm getting sick of Volvo-driving, Birkenstock-wearing libruls and their entitled college kids thinking that Bernie will deliver on his promise of a "revolution."

    I continue to support Hillary who has experienced and fought for many of the same things as I. Thank you Bernie, for dragging the Dems leftward, but it's now time for your nap.

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    1. Anonymous7:33 PM

      Stop it already! Bernie Sanders has more energy and is in better health than Hillary!

      We haven't seen her doctor write an unconditional letter of health and post it on the internet now, have we?

      Oh I forgot, there were rumors that he physician traveled with her??

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    2. Anonymous8:42 PM

      Bernie is a geezer.

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    3. Crystal Sage9:19 PM

      I opined that Ronald Reagan was too old when he ran. Sadly, he was elected and he spent his eight years in a fog, handing over the reins to others, including Nancy and her astrologer. No wonder he died of Alzheimer's; probably had it when he was elected.

      Anyone can see the results of the stress of the job as president on Obama, a much younger man. I think that if Bernie were elected president, he would soon become very disgruntled and not much would get done. I believe that Hillary has been training for the job of president for years. Her health seems fine and I look forward to her mopping the floor with Drumpf's ridiculous hair.

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    4. Anonymous10:30 PM

      So Hillary is 68...wonder is she could still play basketball?

      Bernie can, and he was a runner in high school. Fastest mile in all of Brooklyn or something like that.

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    5. Anonymous5:16 AM

      He was a runner in high school? Wow!

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  47. Anonymous6:34 PM

    I'm a Sanders supporter. If Hillary wins the nomination I'll support and vote for her.

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    1. Anonymous7:00 PM

      Thank you @6:34

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  48. emrysa6:57 PM

    don't be disappointed if we end up with president trump... because it's looking pretty likely. we still have too many idiots here (and authoritarians) who are looking for daddy to protect them from the big, bad, world out there. it's too bad but... there's a lot of good people in this country but unfortunately there are more stupids and fearfuls than regular folk.

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    1. Anonymous8:02 PM

      It's not likely.

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  49. Anonymous8:19 PM

    "Good Democrats"? Hillary isn't a good Democrat, which is the problem we all have with her.

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  50. Are you fully aware that 2/3 of the voters have yet to vote? Get a grip Gryphen!!!! This attitude is what wrecks a presidential run!

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  51. Anonymous9:13 PM

    This article is worth a read:

    http://www.salon.com/2016/03/02/listen_to_the_donald_trump_voters_it_has_taken_an_ignorant_demagogue_to_tell_truth_about_gop_humiliate_party_establishment/

    The problem with Hillary is she just doesn't get this. She thinks America is still great.

    Read the above article, and then you'll see a little bit why Trump and Bernie have such a strong following.

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    1. Anonymous9:28 PM

      Sanders Supporters Attack Warren & His Reasonable Supporters Think Twice http://www.dailynewsbin.com/opinion/bernie-sanders-fanatics-attack-elizabeth-warren-forcing-bernies-reasonable-supporters-to-think-twice/23988/

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  52. Anonymous11:31 PM

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/2/1494855/-This-is-who-is-going-to-win-the-election-for-Bernie

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  53. Anonymous12:23 AM

    Bernie voters complaining they can't vote because Bill Clinton (illegally?) blocking the way:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/2/1494728/-Bill-Clinton-Law-Breaking-at-Polling-Station-Beyond-Doubt-Video-Shows-Loudspeaker-Campaigning

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  54. An indication of how dysfunctional and phony our electoral system is -- red states -- that Democrats are never going to win a general election -- are picking the Democratic nominee. How fucked up is that?

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    1. Anonymous5:46 AM

      I agree that the primary process really sucks. Every state should vote on the same day (no caucuses, either).

      However, primaries are about which candidate is going to represent the party. Those Democrats in red states have just as much right to choose the candidate as democrats in blue states.

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  55. A Superfan In Atlanta6:12 AM

    What amazes me about the Clinton campaign is how they project their brand of handling disappointment onto Bernie as if he's going to repeat Clinton's dismal show of behaviors and attitudes during her downfall in 2008. He's kept it classy all the way and I expect him to continue doing so. However, what's most amazing is that they still seem to keep missing a grand opportunity to get people to "like her". Bernie has the personality and drawing power that get young people and independents -- a good part of the voting public -- to the polls. If she stops with all the Republican/Rovian play book tactics, encourage the continuance of the electoral contest between her and Sanders, and stop putting out the message that it's "her turn", only then will she begin to come across as a genuine leader.

    I say it loud and clear that I am not a Hillary fan or a fan of those weak and silent Democratic legislators currently in office, but I do believe in democracy. Bernie is my guy. If or when Hillary becomes the nominee, I will vote for her as the candidate who best adjusted their talking points to speak on matters most important to me. What will make it all the more palpable is that she will have Bill there to help her.

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  56. It ain't over til the Fat Lady sings.

    #FeelTheBern

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