Sunday, April 24, 2016

For those who think that Elizabeth Warren should not accept a VP offer because she could do more good in the Senate, think again.

Courtesy of HuffPo: 

As Hillary Clinton moves closer to officially clinching the Democratic presidential nomination, the next phase of the competition has already begun: speculation about her running mate. 

A Boston Globe article kicked off the latest round on Thursday by floating the possibility of an all-female ticket — specifically one filled out by Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren. 

Those making the case that Warren would be muzzled or neutered as a vice president first must explain why they were wrong at least the last two times. 

When Warren was offered a temporary role setting up the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, skeptics warned that she’d get eaten alive in the Treasury Department, would have no real power and, as a member of the Obama administration, would lose her independent outsider voice. 

Instead, she won the internal knife fights, carved out space to operate and set up the agency that is today the greatest check against the power of Wall Street. To get a sense of how strong it is, look no further than the legal effort to have it ruled unconstitutional. 

From there, Warren made a bid for the U.S. Senate. Again, her friendly skeptics worried that as one of 100 lawmakers, she’d be shorn of her true power, her independent outsider status. Just look at what happened to political satirist-turned-senator Al Franken, they warned. 

Instead, Warren maneuvered her way onto the Senate Banking Committee and built a power base. She and a group of allies were able to stop Larry Summers from even being nominated to chair the Federal Reserve, and she has otherwise held sway over the administration’s personnel decisions she’s focused on. Banking regulators and Education Department officials, well aware that a viral embarrassment awaits them at their next committee hearing if they fall short of their regulatory duties, have a new pep in their step.

Exactly!

Those who are arguing that Elizabeth Warren would be made an impotent lap dog by Hillary Clinton, clearly do not know Elizabeth Warren's record and, I would argue, do not understand Hillary Clinton very well.

I doubt that too many would argue that Joe Biden or Dick Cheney were muzzled when they became VP, and saying that Warren would be somehow tamed smacks of sexism.

Besides if my proposed scenario, which I now deem the greatest possible scenario, were to play out and Warren was to replace Clinton at the top of the ticket in 2020, then there is no telling the good she could do for this county.

For people demanding a revolution it is hard to imagine shaking things up more than to have two women at the top of a ticket which has been jealously guarded and held in the sweaty grip of men since America's infancy.

And then to have it remain in the hands of a female for three entire terms?

Surely that is the kind of progress that one could not have imagined even two decades ago.

64 comments:

  1. Anonymous2:13 PM

    Not only do I like Warren for VP, I'd vote for her for president if she were running. I think she would keep Clinton on the straight and narrow, bring in more Sanders voters and eventually run herself.

    Mildred

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  2. Anonymous2:27 PM

    Outstanding photo of Elizabeth Warren!

    I think she and Hillary Clinton would be a great team and can hardly wait to vote for them.

    Hillary Clinton has always been my choice, but adding Elizabeth Warren makes their ticket unbeatable against the Republicans!

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  3. Anonymous2:37 PM

    The GOP convention and VP pick goes first. I imagine that will play into Hillary's selection. I don't really care so long as it's not a Palin-type spoiler that will make it harder to support Hillary.

    I care more about winning Senate and House seats and governorships.

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  4. Anonymous2:46 PM

    NO. Just No.

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    1. Care to elaborate?

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    2. Anonymous8:25 AM

      2:45's manhood is threatened

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  5. The first idea I've heard today that's actually made my mouth water.

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  6. Anonymous2:55 PM



    "The former Harvard professor has been scrupulously neutral in the race between Clinton and Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Why? Sanders is the inheritor of the same progressive forces that swept Warren to victory in 2012. Secondly, Clinton’s relationship with Wall Street is too cozy, especially as the beneficiary of outsized speaking fees from the big banks Warren has spent her entire career battling."
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/02/11/why-warren-can-endorse-clinton/sHTFHWzQosvaTDzXSGnFCI/story.html

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    1. Anonymous3:43 PM

      Elizabeth Warren is smart and playing her cards close to her chest. (As is Hillary Clinton!)

      Kind of reminds me of President Obama! Outfoxes them every time!

      I see her becoming Hillary Clinton's running mate and I'll wager they beat the crap out of the Republican candidate(s)!

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    2. I think she will stay in the Senate and become one of it's greatest leaders, especially after Dems are majority again.

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  7. Anonymous3:02 PM

    Girl Power!! To infinity and beyond!

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  8. Anonymous3:06 PM

    Elizabeth Warren is so effective because she's operating in a field where she is an expert, she's exactly where she wants to be. The job she deserved was cruelly taken away from her and she is kicking the shit out of the position she's in now. Running for office was never part of her plans but she has a much brighter and more powerful and satisfying future in the US Senate. Nobody can blame her for not wanting to forfeit it.

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  9. Anonymous3:07 PM

    Nah. Warren doesn't really like Clinton that much. Hasn't endorsed her. Differs from her on some major issues. Not gonna happen.

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    1. Anonymous3:45 PM

      She loves HRC! Especially after the Bernie or Busters were so rude to her when EW refused to endorse anyone.

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    2. Anonymous3:54 PM

      She will endorse Clinton when Clinton gets the nomination.

      Did you forget the Warren encouraged Clinton to run for POUTUS?

      And when Warren does endorse Clinton, there will be a whole bunch of so-called progressives calling Warren a "sell out."

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  10. Anonymous3:10 PM

    Stunning photo of Warren.

    Clinton, Warren and Pelosi, one two three...POW!

    Knock out punch to the noGopers!

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    1. Anonymous3:41 PM

      Damn, but that threesome would be fun to watch! I'd love it! The poor Republicans - wouldn't have a clue what hit them!

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  11. Anonymous3:13 PM

    I can assure you that the ego we call Hillary will never even consider Warren. This election is, was and always will be all about Ms. Hillary. She doesn't give a flying fuck about the country or doing the right thing, she's just all about herself

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    1. Anonymous3:37 PM

      Is that you brissypants?
      Sounds like it.
      Talk about someone who is "just all about herself."

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    2. Anonymous3:39 PM

      You are full of ca-ca, 3:13 PM.!

      Elizabeth Warren is already being considered. Think you are totally off base as to Hillary Clinton!

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    3. Anonymous3:40 PM

      Bull.

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    4. Anonymous3:46 PM

      Losing hurts, eh 3:13?

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    5. Anonymous3:52 PM

      What ego? There has never been any evidence of Hillary Clinton having a big ego or being "all about herself". It's just something you've made up out of nothing but hatred for her and maybe for any woman who dares to be ambitious.

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    6. Anonymous4:36 PM

      I don't see Hillary Clinton as having a big ego. I see her as experienced, knowledgeable and very comfortable in her own skin!

      Admire the lady and think she'd be a magnificent POTUS! Can hardly wait to cast my vote for her (and hopefully, Elizabeth Warren!).

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  12. Anonymous3:13 PM

    This would be my dream ticket. But we are a very misogynistic country. I worry about the unprecedented level of attacks from the GOP. It would make what they unleashed against Barack Obama look tame by comparison.

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  13. Anonymous3:13 PM

    Nope,ain't gonna happen.
    Warren don't do pay for play...

    Former FDA Commissioner Charged in RICO Lawsuit: “Dr. Margaret A. Hamburg was nominated as a result of huge political and other gratuities to Hillary Clinton and The Clinton Foundation, and at Mrs. Clinton’s recommendation.”
    http://ahrp.org/former-fda-commissioner-charged-in-federal-racketeering-lawsuit/

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  14. Anonymous3:15 PM

    Two words: Cory Booker.

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  15. Sorry, don't buy it at all.

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  16. Anonymous3:27 PM

    We need her in the Senate for her vote, voice, power, and keep-no-prisoners ethics. It has nothing to do with power as a VP. It has everything to do with her power in the Senate, especially as head of banking and finance committee.

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  17. Anonymous3:35 PM

    Joe Biden doesn't get enough credit. He has been quite active, has the trust of the president, meets regularly with PBO, and has shepherded a NUMBER of important policy initiatives. Does anyone think less of Elizabeth Warren?

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    1. Anonymous3:54 PM

      Yes, Gryph, I would like your reasoning on this: "Joe Biden or Dick Cheney were muzzled when they became VP."

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    2. Anonymous4:36 PM

      3:54, Gryphen said "I doubt that too many would argue that Joe Biden or Dick Cheney were muzzled "

      I think he meant just the opposite.

      Mildred

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    3. abbafan4:45 PM

      Anon @ 3:54 P.M. - I beg to differ. Cheney was NOT muzzled, he was the real power broker! Dubya was the puppet, the yappy chihuahua who heeled when he was told! In the Dubya administration, true power rested behind the throne!

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    4. Anonymous6:24 PM

      That's why I asked him, abbafan!
      Agreed.

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  18. Anonymous3:43 PM

    Regardless of what she decides, I hope the good people of Massachusetts realize what a gold mine they have in her and re-elect her to anther term (or three or four).

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  19. Anonymous3:46 PM

    THE OBAMA YEARS

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/obama-legacy/racial-politics-2008-election.html

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  20. Anonymous3:51 PM

    She doesn't want to be vice president or president. Not everyone does, not even someone as amazing as Elizabeth Warren. Some people want to fight in the trenches of congress. I think she really enjoys it.

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  21. Anonymous4:17 PM

    Among the names under discussion by Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Clinton and campaign advisers: Senators Tim Kaine and Mark Warner, former governors from the key state of Virginia; Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio, who represents both a more liberal wing of the party and a swing state; former Gov. Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, a prominent African-American Democrat; and Thomas E. Perez, President Obama’s labor secretary and a Hispanic civil rights lawyer.

    But Mrs. Clinton is also open to a woman, campaign advisers said. One obvious possibility is Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, who is hugely popular among progressive Democrats, though she has not been helpful to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, declining to endorse the former secretary of state. Still, Ms. Warren has not been ruled out, according to the campaign advisers, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the confidential search process.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/24/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clintons-list-potential-running-mates.html

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  22. Anonymous5:25 PM

    The Democratic primary explained - https://storify.com/zatchry/the-divide-on-the-electoral-left-between-sanders-c

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  23. I have a girl crush on Lizzy and I'm going to go nuts having to see this over the next few months! :(

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  24. Anonymous5:55 PM

    Warrens entire reputation is built on fighting big banks and Wall St, and you think she'd lower herself to partner with Clinton? Clinton is FIRMLY in Wall Streets pocket. What kind of weed are they growing up there, because you are fucking high.

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    1. Anonymous6:39 PM

      You sound very rational, 5:55.

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    2. Anonymous7:07 PM

      5:55 is obviously not a Democrat.

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    3. Anonymous7:39 PM

      Thanks, 5:55. You saved me from typing it. 7:07, if being disgusted by Clinton's secretive $200K speeches to Goldman Sachs destroys one's political registration, and thinking Elizabeth Warren is too good to be Clinton's VP, than I'm no longer a Democrat either.

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    4. Jacque7:44 PM

      I agree, except for the weed part.

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    5. Anonymous8:12 PM

      7:39 - why are only men allowed to give private speeches for money? HRC was not in office, for Christ's sake! There was nothing illegal,about it.

      Warren loves Hillary! There are plenty of photos and quotes that show it. Warren is a true Democrat, unlike Sanders. She was talks about Hillary's run with excitement as early as 2014! Look it up!

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  25. Jacque7:40 PM

    Elizabeth Warren would never work for or with Hillary she is not that corrupt. Hillary is just trying to get votes by invoking Warren's name. I would bet if Hillary gets elected the first thing she does is to get rid of Elizabeth Warren as a favor to her banker friends.

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    1. Anonymous7:53 PM

      Thanks for the laugh.

      Do you really believe even if she wanted to (and there's absolutely no evidence she does), that Clinton could "get rid" of a Senator? How would she do that? Chem trails? Siccing the lizard people on her?

      You Clinton haters have a nice little fantasy going on in your heads, don't you?

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  26. Jacque7:43 PM

    With over a thousand delegates still uncommitted Hillary shouldn't get too carried away with herself and start picking her running mate. She could be embarrassed again.

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    1. Anonymous8:18 PM

      Math says it's over. You guys are being rolled.

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    2. Is "math" the new "climate change"? LOL

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  27. I suppose the fact that she said she had no interest in the presidency and wanted to stay in the senate holds no weight?

    No one has discussed Joe Biden. Seems he'd be a stronger choice for Hillary if he was willing to serve one more term as VP. He'd probably be the strongest candidate she could pick as well.

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    1. Anonymous4:48 AM

      You would be fine with Joe Biden?

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  28. Anonymous9:35 PM

    OT BRAVO @ 90!
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/harris-wofford-to-marry-man-222358

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  29. Anonymous11:27 PM

    I doubt many men would vote for two females to be in power. I doubt a majority of men will vote for even one.

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  30. Anonymous3:03 AM

    Warren, Grimes and a couple other women in the political scene would rattle that stronghold. Respectfully they have given Hillary the chance. IF elected will she do it?

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  31. Anonymous3:18 AM

    ))))(((((morning trumpet says with giddiness ....huge giant rump smells so great and big. snort..brown nose. Who received gifts from the Donald? hmmmm? FEC? All spin to win on both sides should be exposed. Interesting segment on 60 minutes last night. Our elected are paid by taxpayers to telemarket for the obstruction, destruction and take over of America. Treason, Extortion, bribes are very serious charges.
    Vote for a better future and vision....Sanders/Warren 2016

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  32. Anonymous3:26 AM

    Where is the Kentucky Woman? Alician Grimes.

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  33. Anonymous8:24 AM

    An all-female ticket works for me. Women generally are not power grabbers the way men can be.

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  34. Noooooooo!
    I am from Massachusetts and I want to keep her as my Senator!

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  35. Anonymous11:34 PM

    Is that her Native American purity dress?

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