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If Hillary does as well, as has been predicted, there will be increased pressure on Sanders to leave the race.
If she does not quite as well and still wins there will be increased pressure on Sanders to leave the race.
And if Sanders wins by a small margin there will be increased pressure on him to leave the race.
Essentially no matter what happens tonight there will be increased pressure on Sanders to leave the race.
As for the Republican side with 95 delegates up for grabs, well Trump is going to take the lion's share of those there is absolutely no doubt.
Let the games begin!
Update: MSNBC is calling the New York primary for Donald Trump. No surprise there, but more notably they are calling the Democratic primary "too early to call."
That does not sound good for Hillary.
Update 2: MSNBC is calling New York for Hillary with 61% of the votes.
I think an important question is whether the Sanders supporters will work for and donate to the Clinton campaign. Sanders seems to be trying to build political capital so he can have an influence on the next administration.
ReplyDeleteNO they will not. Just like Sanders has refused to campaign for down ticket candidates across the country.
DeleteBut, as Hillary supporter I don't think Don Quixote tilting at windmills would help her anyway.
I will NOT drink responsibly!
ReplyDeleteI will stay homebound, watch the vote returns on my computer, and neither watch cable news nor take my car for a drive.
LOL! After my own heart.....
DeleteI like you.
DeleteAnd mine. :)
DeleteGeorgiaPeach
A lot of independents are complaining about not being able to vote.
ReplyDeletePeople do not realize that the Republican and Democratic parties are not the government. State by State, the R's and the D's decide the rules for their primary/caucus or State convention.
New York chooses to have a closed primary, which means that unless you are a registered R or D (as of last October), you cannot vote in the primary.
I suspect this will help Hillary tonight. Bernie does better with independents than with registered Democrats.
I am hoping that Hillary blows it out the water tonight and makes it mathematically impossible for Bernie to win the nomination.
But we will see. Certainly I am voting for whomever we Dems choose; state by state.
Exactly- primaries are for parties to choose the person they want to run for them. If independents don't like that they should join a party, and not just 24 hours before the primary (allowing them to vote in both primaries when they aren't on the same date.)
DeleteAs my 90 year old mom says, quitcherbellyachin'
It's the same here in AK. I've always been registered Independent and can't participate in either party caucus.
DeleteIt is an election rule in many states, and has been for years, that's part of the deal for registering independent. You have no vote in the primaries, only the general.
DeleteWell, one bit of good news, sort of. I voted in NY today and the man in front of me could not vote because he wasn't registered -- as Republican -- and thought he had been for years. Guess he never voted in a Primary before. Just wish he had been Independent so he couldn't have voted for Bernie.
DeleteIf they want to blame anyone they should blame Bernie for jumping parties for $$$$$$. But they won't do that, they will whine and snivel that unregistered people or people registered to vote in another party aren't allowed to vote in the Democratic Party. They are whining dumbasses and nothing more.
DeleteYUUUUGE! I still don't like any of them either side, and mail ballots are sent out in Oregon next week for our primary next month.
ReplyDeleteWhat to do....What to do....
My Mother and Father this afternoon took a car to the polling place in Manhattan and voted for Trump. So there's that, you could just do that.
DeleteNo way in double hockeys! LOL
DeleteGames indeed! OMG the games they are playing with our voting rights! I don't live in NY but I have many friends who do and MANY of them found themselves "not on the list" to vote when the went to their polling places today. Brooklyn for most of them but also Queens and Manhattan. When they called their board of elections, they were told to accept the affidavit ballot they were offered. Some were told to take a provisional ballot. One said the poll worker didn't know what either of those even were. I do not know who any of them are voting for (it was started on my friend's wall and became a HUGE discussion of voters she knew that I do not know at all) but I know that this is BULLSHIT. My friend and her friends were all long-time residents at the same address, voters, never had issues before. I heard this was going to happen but didn't know if it was just crazy talk. They tried this in Ohio, where I live, but we were able to stop it before our primary. I am SO ANGRY about this. WTH is going on here?
ReplyDeletevoter fraud allegations ?
Deletehttp://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2016/04/new_york_primary_live_updates.html#incart_breaking
You are too idiotic for words. If they are too lazy to get involved in the political process unless it is jumping on whatever bandwagon tickles their fancy. This rules have been in place for many, many election cycles. But it is clear neither you nor your friends vote regularly or you would know that. Take your entitled outrage elsewhere.
DeleteFrom the Washington Post earlier this evening:
Delete"In New York City, the Board of Elections conceded that tens of thousands of Brooklyn voters had been purged from the voter rolls and residents complained about problems at polling sites across the city. Angered by the news, city officials announced plans to audit the agency and New York Mayor Bill be Blasio said he wanted the problems fixed in time for congressional primaries scheduled in June."
So the Board of Elections is aware of it and looking into why voters were purged. If it also happened in other boroughs, they are probably looking into it there also.
4:54, Fuck you. Seriously. My friend ARE registered for their parties. I just don't ask which. They have voted in every fucking election since they were old enough to vote. Their children vote, too. This is BS. They are not "undeclared" or "independent" I just don't know for sure if they are rep or dem because we don't discuss that stuff. How the hell does that make me an idiot? And in Ohio, btw? You can vote as in independent, and I know that and I voted in the primary as such. I knew my own rights. My daughter will be 18 by the general and as such, in allllll other OH elections she would have been able to vote in the primary. This year? They tried to sneak it away - NOBODY knew about it - either party, I don't think, from what I know - they changed the rules at the end of last year, slipped it through. And ha ha ha it obviously WAS bullshit, since a judge overturned it without HOURS of people bringing it to the court's attention. My daughter was able to vote. :)
DeleteSO STFU don't call me an idiot. OR lazy. If you knew me you'd be ashamed. Or maybe not, but really, you are the idiot here.
Agree with JillyG, 4:54 PM, that was uncalled for.
Delete5:32
DeleteX2
Are you sure they are registered to either the GOP or Democratic party? They may be registered to vote without declaring in the elections, just not the primaries.
Delete4:54, your comment was totally not warranted. I have to agree with 5:32.
Delete6:33, yes, I did ask that, as I asked why their 18yo daughter was able to vote - she declared her party - and my friend said yes, they were registered as rep or dem. The other friends in the thread said the same thing, they DID know their voting rules but they were denied their votes.
DeleteNo matter what the polls suggest Bernie is staying in the primary until the last state votes just like Hillary did in 2008.
ReplyDeleteOk... But it didn't help her...and it won't help Sanders.
DeleteHe should stay in, but he shouldn't firebomb the party.
DeleteBut will he be campaigning for her, like Hillary did for Obama? Will he give any effort and/or campaign funds to have democrats elected in the down ballot elections?
DeleteI sure hope so - and hope he will get his supporters behind that effort as well!
No. He's not able to pivot; Susan Sarandon will say he's a sellout. Purity above all! /s
DeleteHe's already said he will back Hillary if she wins the nomination.
DeleteCool your jets, people.
Oh Teddy! You're such an inspiration as a Christian ....hypocrite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-_dp231iQ0
ReplyDeletehttp://nationalreport.net/trump-university-offers-sarah-palin-honorary-degree-in-climate-science/
ReplyDeleteTeam Hillary! Go girl go! All the way to the White House. Love that woman.
ReplyDeleteSanders says he'll keep campaigning while the money lasts.... so does this mean the frat boys will keep him financial so he can do nothing but troll Hillary Clinton? I doubt it. Pretty soon they're going to want that money for beer.
ReplyDeleteBut when the money runs out Jane Sanders will be happily monetizing all this support for her elderly husband before it's too late. You betcha.
Bernie spent $6.64 million on television and radio to Hillary's $3.93 for the same. New York was a do or die for Bernie. He's flush with cash from all those millions of small donations. He will stay in the race and will go to the convention to win the nomination.
DeleteHe's started the Ron Paul retirement plan.
Delete6:01 is that the same Sarah Palin livin' large family plan for the lazy lay abouts?
DeleteHe can stay in but he is never getting the nomination.
DeleteI voted for Hillary this morning, so I could safely enjoy the festivities tonight!
ReplyDeleteCheers!!
Voted here and there was no line. Breezed right in and out. Lots of complaints from Independents that they couldn't vote. Sorry, not feeling their pain. If you chose not to register in any party, you chose to sit out the primary. Thems the rules.
ReplyDeleteBbbbbut....the rules aren't supposed to apply to the Bernie Bros and Hos, only other people.
DeleteIf Hillary does as well, as has been predicted, there will be increased pressure on Sanders to leave the race.
ReplyDeleteIf she does not quite as well and still wins there will be increased pressure on Sanders to leave the race.
And if Sanders wins by a small margin there will be increased pressure on him to leave the race.
Dang Gryphie Poo!
You are sailing a leaking boat on the ocean of delusion.
SS Shillary.
Sanders isn't going to leave the race, speaking of delusion.
DeleteThe SS Senile will never win the presidential election. Bernie should drop out and continue to spend his fans money on whatever trips Baby Jane wants to take.
Delete@5:00 PM Which boat are you sailing, loser?
ReplyDeleteI'm all for closed primaries and caucuses. It prevents shenanigans like voting in the other party to create chaos, to vote for a candidate you want to face.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you.
DeleteYou have to give it to Sanders for switching parties.
ReplyDeleteBy running on the Democratic ticket, Sanders gets his Independent Party followers to vote for him and the Democrats he conned into voting for him
Kasich is second-Cruz is NOT winning over New Yorkers.
ReplyDeleteAnd with 6% in, Hillary leads 62% to 38%.
No surprise there, Gryph!
DeleteAppreciate you following this. I cannot turn on the TV and listen to the talking heads anymore.
With 75% of the precincts sending in their tallies, Hillary's lead has dropped 57.6% to Bernie's 42.2% (15.2% Difference)
DeleteExciting stuff!!!
I like your positive attitude Superfan, but it doesn't seem very exciting to me.
DeleteLosing excites many; Bernie is one example.
DeleteThe Guardian is the most fun way to track the results. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/apr/19/new-york-primary-live-results-trump-clinton
ReplyDeleteThanks for the link! Very fun.
DeleteThanks for the link. The site has comprehensive, interactive coverage. And fun graphics!
DeleteI live in a heavily Republican part of upstate New York. When I went to vote, there was a medium-sized line in front of the Democratic table where we got our ballots but no line in front of the Republican table. The woman there kept calling out, "Any Republicans? Come over here." But no one stepped over to her table. My guess is that many people could not stand any of the Republican choices and just stayed home.
ReplyDeleteThen they have no business complaining about their party nominee. I had a professor in college say "vote or shut up".
DeleteI grew up in a rural upstate NY county and I was happy to see that the number of dem votes were nearly the same as the number of repub votes. I know that there is a very strong, active group of progressives in the country and a lot of apathetic conservatives.
Deleteedit: county, not country
DeleteCNN has projected that Hillz has won! Yay!!!
ReplyDeleteCNN was touting their exit polls that showed Hillary 52% and 48% Bernie and stating it would be a tight race tonight. LMAO...20 point margin isn't a close race, Asshats!
ReplyDeleteThe tighter the race, the more money the media makes.
DeleteFrom what I've observed, the media focuses on horse-race coverage over issues AND slants coverage at any given moment to try to keep the race as neck-and-neck as possible.
Go Hillary! Now waiting for Elizabeth Warren to back her up against Donald.
ReplyDeletehttp://i.imgur.com/7qAEBVD.gifv
ReplyDeleteBreaking News: Hillary wins!! Hillary wins!!!!
ReplyDeleteWOO HOO!!!!!!!
DeleteEnergized crowd for Hillary!!!! The Empire State building is blazing in blue!!!! 151 Delegates awarded to Hillary!
ReplyDeleteIt's kinda weird, I feel pretty disconnected from this election. I'd be fine with either Hillary or Bernie, although I lean towards Hillary. I simply believe she has the diplomatic experience to make things happen.
ReplyDeleteBut if Bernie wins I'd vote for him as well if I could vote.
The republicans are an effin mess!!
Everyone now waiting for a speech from Hillary. I guess she's in a back room somewhere brushing up on her best phony New Yawk accent. Cuz you know she was SO proud to be a phony New Yorker back when she was working directly for Wall Street.
ReplyDeleteI hear her on my neighbors tv. (no air-conditioning, open windows) She and the crowd sound fired up!
DeleteShut up, you jerk loser.
DeleteWaaaahhhhhh, waaaahhhhh.
DeleteYou can hear that shrill screech from a mile away, I'm sure! She and old saggy Sarah should have a "screech-off", I don't even thing screechy Sarah could beat her.
DeleteHillary wins 60% to 40%? Did I read that incorrectly?
ReplyDeleteNope, she creamed him in NY.
Delete87% in, 57% for Hillary and 43% for Bernie so not quite as bad as 20% spread. However, a lot of money was spent by the Sanders campaign in New York which forced Hillary to spend quite a bit, also.
DeleteBernie is burning through dough and got no results.
DeleteWhat I'm hoping is that since they are finally paying attention and realizing that the fix is in for the two party system of money-grubbers, Independents will gear up, learn the rules, and prepare for the upcoming mid-terms. A tough lesson to learn indeed.
ReplyDeleteAnd, no, Bernie should NOT stop campaigning. Hillary didn't in 2008 so neither should Bernie.
Bernie continuing keeps some media coverage on the Democratic Party. If he dropped out, we'd probably never hear about the Dems or Hillary until the convention.
Delete6:41, it scares me that you are so right about Dems and Hillary, but not just less coverage. For Hillary more than any candidate, Hillary gets the most negative coverage too.
DeleteSniff sniff
ReplyDeleteWhat do I smell?
Bernie are you berning?
What, are you 12? You do realize that people like you are exactly why people like me will NEVER vote for Hillary.
DeleteThat sounds like a come-back from a 12 year old.
DeleteBernie should ask for a recount. He had 28,000 at his rally. That should count for something.
ReplyDeleteRallies do not count, votes do.
DeleteRon Paul.
DeleteNicolle Wallace and Steve Schmidt, why do they even have any credibility after their behavior in the 2008 election? MSNBC must hire all the political rejects. And Ben Ginsberg? The famous lawyer in Bush v Gore? It's as bad as Fox.
ReplyDeleteEven more exciting news for Bernie supporters! Delegate count has Bernie only 19 votes behind Hill (NOTE: Take out the super democratic votes as those don't take effect until the conference.) So this thing is FAR from over!!!
ReplyDeleteGo Bernie!
Congrats to Team Hillary :)
Everyone on CNN said it's over, including Bernie supporter Van Jones. It's over. Bernie can stay in but he has no chance. He's a protest candidate only. But hey, Jane got a trip to Rome!
DeleteYou better go look at your numbers again, they are incorrect.
DeleteThis is the pledged delegate counts: Hillary 1869 and Bernie 1174. I don't think those numbers contain superdelegate numbers, Superfan, but I could be wrong. Could you tell me where you got your information that Bernie is 19 behind Hillary so I can read and educate myself? Thank you.
DeleteAnon 6:59P
DeleteI'm on the 2016 Huffpost Election Page. I was only counting delegates relative to the NY race. Not total.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/primaries/2016-04-19
He's down about 30 delegates in NY.
DeleteHillary is a tough cookie. But if she gets in the race opposite the Donald, I am afraid she will let him drag her down to his level. He has this little knack for making you start talking about his junk. I swear the whole Republican campaign it was about his parts. The bully from my nightmares is about to run our country. Hillary don't let us down.
ReplyDeleteNO WAY! Hillary will NOT get down in the gutter with Donald. She's too smart for that.
DeleteHillary didn't let the worst of the worst republicans drag her down. Trump is an empty suit.
DeleteHillary will not let us down. Hillary is solid as a rock. A brilliant rock.
DeleteI don't know Anon 6:57P. Hillary got down and dirty during the 2008 campaign against President Obama. Wouldn't put it past her.
Delete7:21 you sound like the mentally challenged people who chant "Sarah Palin will not let us down. Sarah is solid as a rock. A brilliant rock."It's pathetic and embarrassing for Ameridumbs how they idolize their politicians. That's why the rest of the world thinks you're all fat drooling idiots.
DeleteNot down and dirty, Superfan, but down to Trump's level which is low down and filthy.
DeleteSuperfan is super jealous of Hillary.
DeleteSee Bernie, you shouldn't have flown to Rome to give your 15 minute speech. Why didn't you give your speech by videoconferencing your speech? Look at all those young people's money you wasted chartering that 767 to fly 40 to 50 people and your 4 grandchildren to Rome? A jet that holds way over 200 people, why didn't you take 150 more of your Socialist friends with you, you selfish bastard.
ReplyDeleteNo need to use that kind of language, 6:20.
DeleteBastard is a legitimate word in English.Even Shakespeare used it. @6:53
Delete1869 Pledged Delegates for Hillary to 1174 Pledged Delegates for Bernie.
ReplyDeleteFollowing the maps on Huffpost elections
ReplyDeletehttp://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/primaries/2016-04-19
The upper part of the state is overwhelmingly for Bernie. The heavily populated cities are for Hillery. Watch the colors turn solid. Fun stuff!
How many weeks since Jeb! dropped out? I wonder how many pounds he's eaten back on.
ReplyDeleteAnd it sure feels lately like somebody told Christie "shuddup and disappear till I call ya..."
I think Trump's new campaign manager chucked both Christie and Palin.
DeleteThe woman is delusional. She just started her speech with "Today you proved once again there's no place like home". Why does she keep insisting she is a New Yorker? Nothing could be further from the truth. She was born in Chicago, went to Yale and then went to live with the hillbillies in Arkansas. I guess when Wall Street lines your pockets with millions that's where you call "home". What a fraud!
ReplyDeleteBecause Hillary is a New Yorker ass wipe
Delete16 years sounds like home to me.
DeleteHillary got 2 times the number of votes that the donald did.
DeleteAnd, ever since they left the White House they have lived in NY. She served the state well as Senator and is well liked by many here. It IS home now.
DeleteIt's not fair for Hillary to call New York 'home'. That's why she was elected twice as Senator from New York and why New York Democrats just voted to give her their convention delegates.
DeleteBecause she's lived there for over 16 years. Are you insane?
DeleteDo you have to pick on every little thing the woman does? Sheesh!
DeleteWonder if it has anything to do with being elected their Senator and living there! Duh!
DeleteLOL, sounds like you have a very painful bern.
DeleteBTW My home is now in a different state than I was born in and its' ( gasp) my HOME.
What a dumb comment.
DeleteMore her home than Bernie who left it at age 18 and never looked back.
DeleteWell,clueless,I wasn't born in Louisiana,but after living here since 1994,I am a Louisianan .
DeleteFavorite comment tonight came from Rachel Maddow. Cruz sneering at NY and NY values...looks like the feeling is mutual. [How does bottom of the barrel third place feel, Teddy?]
ReplyDeleteI was so happy that Trump won! New York is his town and his state, and I bet he and his campaign are elated. Congrats to him, he worked hard for this one.
DeleteScrew Donald Trump. No congratulations to that wind bag.
DeleteOMG! The look on Bill Clinton's face is priceless!
ReplyDeleteBernie Sanders’ campaign spent around $5.8 million trying to win New York.
ReplyDeleteBernie how are you going to tell 215,000 college potheads and college drunks you just wasted their $27.00 in New York?
How do you tell 14,814 young college drunks you wasted their $27.00 keg money to speak for 10 minutes in Rome and 5 minutes to shake Pope Francis's hand when you should have stayed in New York campaigning?
Hillary was respectful and gracious to Sanders and those who voted for him. What's the point of your denigrating Sanders supporters as potheads and college drunks?
Delete6:39pm
DeleteI don't know if you saw Samantha Bee last night but she had a group of Bernie supporters on and most of them were old, over and a few over 50 or even older. Your characterization of Bernie voters is nothing but a false stereotype.
And how many college students get involved in politics, much less vote? Hello, my 6 years in school I couldn't have cared less who was running or even when elections were held, voting was for old people. My cousins, who are now in college, are the same, no interest, no knowledge, and definitely not registered to vote. That's not what college is for.
I was very involved in elections and politics when I was in college and so were many of my friends. Maybe that's an exception to the rule. I will encourage my kids to get involved when they were in college, just like may parents did with me and their parents did with them.
DeleteIf Hillary would say something in the
ReplyDeleteline of "campaigns are difficult, and even
more difficult running against someone
that you admire and have respect for." If
she said that, and if she got the
nomination, I bet many of Berni's
side would be there for her. Anyway. something along those lines.
She will say something just like that.
DeleteWhen she lost to Obama in 2008, she was gracious and supportive.
I hope Sanders will be equally gracious and supportive. That will go far to bring his people over.
She did.
Delete7:18pm
DeleteMost of Bernie's people aren't coming over to Hillary regardless of is she is sportsmanlike or not. She simply doesn't appeal to us.
We're going to win without Bernie's peeps who really aren't Democrats - the ones who are libertarians. But Bernie supporters who are Democrats will vote for HRC.
DeleteYou're wrong, 8:09. Most of them will because they aren't nihilists who'd rather see the country burn. When Clinton is elected you can thank us for your continued civil and reproductive rights (but you won't; you'll just reap the benefits and complain).
DeleteMedia git off my lawn!
ReplyDelete-Crybaby Bernie
lol
DeleteHow and when to vote for Bernie Sanders in New York
ReplyDeletevoteforbernie.org › state › new-york
New York has closed primaries - New Yorkers: Learn how to vote for Bernie in New York!
New York Primary
Tue, Apr 19
OT- Congrats>
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/post-series-on-police-shootings-wins-pulitzer-prize-for-national-reporting/2016/04/18/a9eeeda2-055d-11e6-b283-e79d81c63c1b_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_prize-334pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Talk about bias in reporting. Hillary received twice as many votes in NY as Donald Trump, and all they can discuss is Trump's massive victory. Bernie received more votes than Trump, too!
ReplyDeleteTime for Plan H
ReplyDeleteIt is time for MAD
Mutual Assured Destruction
IF WE SOCIALISTS CAN'T WIN NEITHER WILL HILLARY
Time to throw everything negative against Hillary and so what if we give the Republican Party ammunition to use against Hillary.
WE WILL NOT BE DENIED
*yawn*
DeletePALIN ARMY STRONGER!
DeleteDuke it out to the end.
Last man standing! Sheesh.
I don't know, my parents are voting for Trump and I almost think I might too, listening to NPR tonight there was a commentator that said either Trump or Bernie would be a great way to blow up the old two party system and start from scratch, and I wholeheartedly agree.
DeleteSupreme Court - 8:07. That's the path to enduring Citzens United. It won't happen by voting Trump.
DeleteSure, 8:07, blow up the system. It's only peoples' lives and rights that are at stake.
DeleteOops - meant "ending" Citizens United through the Supreme Court
DeleteWith 12869 of 15067 precincts reporting (85%)here are the latest results:
ReplyDeleteHillary 874,266 / 57.3% (another small drop)
Bernie 650,757 / 42.7 (another small increase)
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/primaries/2016-04-19
Dang! I'm more invested in Hillary's campaign than I realized--teared up during her speech.
ReplyDeleteMe, too!
DeleteI have a solid crush on her.
DeleteShe had a great speech.
DeleteSame here...and I was surprised to feel that way. I loved her speech tonight. Hillary was inspiring and gracious. Now I'm ready to donate to her campaign.
DeleteThat said, I will enthusiastically vote for whomever is the Democratic nominee.
I was expecting a blowout of 60% to 40% in Hillary's favor. Surprisingly, Bernie has held his own among registered Democrats. Now imagine if the independents would have been able to cast a vote.
ReplyDeleteThat's gotta hurt a little for Team Hillary to see New York Berning
Not really. Bernie spent an insane amount of money on ads and huge rallies, campaigned heavily, did every desperate thing he could, stalked the Pope at his house, and he STILL got his ass kicked. Put a fork in him.
DeleteYou are assuming all those independents would vote for Bernie. They all won't of course. I'm an independent, and I'll vote for Hillary :)
DeleteNah. I heard Van Jones say, on CNN, that if Bernie could not attract the African-American vote after Danny Glover, Harry Belafonte, Spike Lee, and Rosario Dawson, then the campaign had to recognize that Sanders is mainly just a white campaign. So: that's what tonight illustrated. That burns Ole Bern.
DeleteYeah Bernie is "winning" , thanks for your comment Charlie Sheen.
Delete1. Bernie significantly outspent Hillary.
Delete2. Why should independents help choose the Democratic Party's nominee?
Unfortunately, it's a rule long held.
Delete7:19pm
DeleteWe caucasians need our heroes too :-)
I'm registered independent. I consider myself a socialist on many issues and disagree with Hillary on several issues that are important to me. And I'm enthusiastically supporting Hillary!
DeleteBernie will drop out soon because Baby Jane wants all that campaign cash to live on. I also suspect he will not run again for the Senate in the end, once he has his flush fund in place. Staying in only takes takes $$$$ away from him personally since he can do whatever he wants with the leftover funds.
DeleteCool thread!
DeleteAnon 7:16P
I think what's fascinating to me is that after being an elected Senator twice and living in NY for 16 years that registered Democrats would even give Bernie the time of day.
Anon 7:18P
No, I wasn't. My point is that Sanders kept the race close enough that the input of another party would have changed the outcome more to his favor and narrowed her lead. Again, according to the graphic image, it looks like the entire state of NY wanted someone else.
Anon 7:19P
re: CNN/Van Jones - Seeing as though African Americans only make up about 13-17% of the population, the remaining 83-87% of the population (races and nationalities) spoke up and said they preferred Sanders to Clinton.
Anon 7:21P
I think the people that cast their vote for Bernie wanted to symbolically show their appreciation for another candidate that they relate to. That's the win. Remember, going in, Bernie wasn't even supposed to resonate with ANYBODY -- regardless of whether he outspent or not. That means he introduced an alternative to Clinton that appealed to New Yorkers. Now she knows without a doubt that she's got a lot more work to do to win their vote.
Anon 7:24P
If Bernie outspending Hillary is all it took to reduce her homegirl creds in her own backyard, then Hill's got bigger problems. Independents should help choose the Democratic part's nominee because the DNC said they could. Take that issue up with them not out on Independent voters. Hint: Follow the money!
Super fan, did you ever take any math in college?
Deletesuperfan, you are ignoring Van Jones' point. Bernie only attracts predominantly white people. America is diverse. You cannot win with mainly white people in a presidential election. Sanders ignores the famous Obama coalition; Clinton embraces it.
DeleteWhat are you even talking about Superfan? This was a big loss for Bernie, even if he predicted it, even if it wasn't as big as he predicted. He's a boy from Brooklyn and he lost big in NYC, one of the bluest parts of one of the bluest states. His stats among NY African Americans and Latinos are pitiful.
DeleteSuperfan is Berning.
DeleteAs expected, the money/Wall Street Towns of New York voted for Clinton. What I was not expecting to see was how close the races were and how overwhelmingly registered Democrats voted for Bernie. So much for that "true" Democrat argument. He's proven in Clinton's own backyard that people appreciate having a choice.
ReplyDeleteYou aren't making sense.
Deletethere's a Bernie fan melt down on this thread.
DeleteThe Wall Street towns of Queens and Harlem you mean?
DeleteGryphen asked everyone to drink responsibly.
Bernie may drop out before California- From MaggieNYT - "This seems newish for now from @taddevine, via AP: campaign will see how it does in Penn, Md, Del, RI and CT and then 'assess where we are.'"
ReplyDeleteBernie is projected to do very poorly in those 5 states next week.
DeleteYes, Anon 7:55P, we know. Just like every state he's won prior to.
DeleteHe's down by a lot of MD.
DeleteBernie cannot afford any more losses - http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/upshot/realistically-bernie-sanders-cannot-afford-losses.html
ReplyDeletePerhaps the small bump that Team Bernie experienced about 15 minutes ago will be the height of his bid for NY. Heading towards that 60%-40% result I was expecting after all.
ReplyDeleteWith 14074 of 15067 precincts reporting (93%)
Hillary 960,875 / 57.7% (slight bump up)
Bernie 715,870 /42.4 (slight bump down)
Good stuff!!!
Bernie knows that he is done.
ReplyDeleteThat's why he took his extended family on a nice vacation to Rome at his donor's expense.
He is no different than those he rails against.
Poor berniebots, taken for a ride, but not to Rome.
He was only there for two nights, I'd hardly call that a vacation.
DeleteI'm happy that Bernie gave it a good try, that's all we asked for. I'm sad that I won't get to vote for him in November, but hey Trump is a not a bad second choice :-)
'Trump is not a bad second choice'.
DeleteBecause Trump's tax plan favors the millionaires and billionaires? You either meant your comment as snark or you support the white patriarchy. I can't tell.
No, I mean it, our entire family is voting for Trump and I'll join them if Sander's doesn't get the nod (I'm the lone Independent in a family of old-school Republicans). My patriarchal great grandfather and grandfather were Republican House members from my home state, so most of the family follows in that tradition.
DeleteRepublicans are going to lose this year. But if it's your family tradition...Susan Sarandon says Hillary is a Republican, so there's that...
DeleteIf your second choice after Bernie is Trump,you were only along for the hype train anyway.
DeleteThe visual alone on the election graphic is remarkable. It look as if the majority of the state of New York overwhelmingly chose Bernie over Hillary. Fortunately for Team Hill, all the money and votes were in her favor.
ReplyDeleteAgain, congrats Team Clinton for fighting the good fight!
The majority of NYS is sparsely populated rural farm towns and very small cities.
DeleteAll the votes were in her favor? Yes they were.
Looks like the Pope blessed Hillary
ReplyDeleteYes, a blessing from an old dude who runs an army of little-boy-buggerers, thanks, but no thanks.
DeleteBernie Sanders did put up a good fight in New York but I noticed today as he was walking around New York shaking hands and telling people to vote for him, he looked like he knew what was coming.
ReplyDeleteWell, you can't talk about putting Wall Street out of business and then expect them to vote for you too. Doesn't make sense. I'm hoping he went in with the expectation that the money towns were not going to vote for him.
DeleteSarah Palin is not at home.
ReplyDeleteI didn't see Sarah Palin in Donald Trump's corner.
Does anybody know where Sarah is?
Sara is in Vegas peddling her old ass and no one wants it. But anything to stay away from Alaska.
DeleteSad part for the Sanders family is pretty soon after the campaign is over Bernie's wife Deborah will have that grouch at home till he passes away.
ReplyDeleteHow come MSNBC is talking more about Trump? Secretary Clinton is the one who put up an excellent fight.
ReplyDeleteHow exciting! Hillary just broke 1MM votes. 1,036,196 / 57.9% That made me excited for her.
ReplyDeleteBernie Sanders is not going to give up as long as he can get $27. It's not his money he's spending.
ReplyDeleteOh he will quit before the primary, he isn't going to spend $$$$$ that will be his in the end to spend on whatever follies he chooses to go on with Jane. If he eats up his campaign fund he won't have his free pile of OPM to live off of.
DeleteBernie's BIG mistake was going negative. That backfired & he can't take it back.
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