Morality is not determined by the church you attend nor the faith you embrace. It is determined by the quality of your character and the positive impact you have on those you meet along your journey
Bernie has lost control of his campaign for a long time. He needs to shut it down. The R's have taken over b/c they figure he will be easier to beat than Hillary. He needs to drop out so this crap will stop.
These wackos and others like them probably travel many miles to go to as many Sanders rallies as their rent checks allow them to. Somebody should ask them how many rallies have they been to.
I read an article yesterday where they interviewed some people who said they have attended several rallies. I just can't imagine doing something like that. Why aren't they busy in life?
It's like a cult following. Sometimes I think Bernie is really into these rallies of adoration. Like it's an addiction he doesn't want to end.
I was once a supporter, but Bernie makes me very uneasy; he says the same things & doesn't discuss HOW he plans to accomplish his goals. He, and his staff, when talking to (or talking over) the media, speak bitterly about Hillary or the Democrats. I don't see how he can sway Democratic delegates while berating the Democratic party, and blaming them for every bump in the road.
I blame him, as I blame Trump for the disturbing behavior of the supporters. The vile things these people say about Hillary is tertible. They have latched onto the RW's myths, misinformation & outright lies. The RW has had over 20 years of this bullshit. You know what they say about saying something often enough ...., especially over a long course of time.
Currently, there are 3 candidates running for president. Only one has detailed & credible written plans publicly available - Hillary.
* WTF? indeed,Gryph! You take a tweet from a Bernie supporter and base all his supporters on that? Well she-i-i-it. Lemme see if I can find something to rebut with... Ah-hah!
These Hillary Supporters Want Her to Repeal the Bill of Rights if She's Elected President https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZFXkmofgI
So you see Gryph,anyone these days can go find dumbasses to further their narrative...
Thank you! I used to have a lot of respect for you Gryphen, but am quickly losing it. You and a lot of people on this forum are starting to sound a lot like the SP supporters you used to laugh at.
How do we sound like SP supporters? Palin's for Trump. Her supporters are for Trump. Most Democrats are for Hillary (by +3 million more votes so far). Please explain how we sound like SP supporters, 9:52; you make no sense. We support Trump's General Election opponent - Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Look in the mirror. Continuing to believe that your candidate is the savior when facts suggest otherwise is very much like SOME of the Sanders supporters.
Missing it again, aren't you, 9:52. Supporting a sane, experienced, talented, intelligent candidate and either donating to her campaign (time or $) and saying, I will vote for her. I like her platform and she appears to have a plan to get those things that I support done, is in now way claiming her to be a "saviour" my guess is Hillary will get some of her agenda done, and some not, depending in large part on the Congress we give her.
Mainstream Media Gets Schooled On Why Millennial Sanders Supporters Will Vote For Clinton
The media got a taste of reality as they were forced to face the truth that millennial Bernie Sanders supporters care about the issues and will support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.
...The early polling backs up what Menendez said. The Harvard IOP Spring Poll of millennials found that younger voters are flocking to Democrats because they hate Trump. Clinton leads Trump by 36 points with millennial voters. Trump’s net unfavorable rating with younger voters is (-57). Trump’s unfavorable rating with young Republicans is a net (-20).
The mainstream media has developed a perception of younger voters who support Bernie Sanders as angry idealistic kids who aren’t paying attention to the issues, but the issues are the biggest reason why millennials have supported Sen. Sanders. Millennials have been hit hardest by student debt, income inequality, and the decline in upward economic mobility.
These voters are well informed, and they aren’t going to be fooled into voting Republican. Trump is everything that millennial voters are fighting against. Younger voters are also keenly aware that they have an opportunity to influence the future direction of the Democratic Party. A large number of younger voters mobilized around Sen. Sanders, but they are going to support the candidate in November who best speaks to their issues.
That candidate has not, not will ever be, Donald Trump.
Continuing the divide between the democratic party. I have been a reader of your blog for many years now. It is too bad, that since I am leaning towards Sanders ( with the majority of Alaskan Dems). That we wood become villinized be cause we are not swoop ed by your Hilary. Disappointed.
Lureta Whitewing 'wood'should be spelled 'would'. Further, villinized is correctly spelled villainized. And swoop ed should read 'swept up'. Back to school dearie.
Speaking of not bringing the "A" game: Criticizing the deliverer and the delivery instead of answering her point is called ad hominem - the mean-spirited logical fallacy.
Come on. Of course she made a point that was easy to understand: She's a long-time reader who's disappointed by the anti-Sanders/anti-Sanders supporter posts.
People who poined out and mocked her errors instead of answering her message are guilty of ad hominem, general mean-spirited-ness and bully behavior.
I admire folks who stand by their convictions. I'm glad that Gryph has integrity to maintain his POV, and not just base his posts on pandering to readers.
9:36 AM Your stupid ass comes here multiple times per day, so 'obvi' Gryphen has not 'lost' your readership. Anywhere that there is a Palin trail of stink, you show up.
* @10:20 Here is Gryph in his own words: "In fact I have been steadily losing visitors since I started to point out that Sanders' campaign is effectively over. And I'm not talking a hundred or so, I'm talking over a thousand." http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2016/05/trevor-noah-attempts-to-confront-bernie.html For a blog this small that's significant.
* @11:24 I'll save you the trouble of scrolling to the top and repeat what is there: "So is this the "Cult of Bernie" now? Getting harder and harder to take these people seriously." Considering past posts maligning anyone who supports Bernie and Gryph using words like "cult" and "these people",one could safely surmise what he meant.
* @11:24 I'll save you the trouble of scrolling to the top and repeat what is there: "So is this the "Cult of Bernie" now? Getting harder and harder to take these people seriously." Considering past posts maligning anyone who supports Bernie and Gryph using words like "cult" and "these people",one could safely surmise what he meant.
Aw, 11:34 - why don't you spend time trying to teach BS supporters how caucuses work? That would be a better use of your time and energy. They have no idea, based on what we saw in NV yesterday.
He is the only candidate with a heart. Candidates who drop out (or choose not to enter) so their loved ones avoid undue pain from a nasty media have hearts too.
Hillary and trump. True sociopathic Assholes without identity or conviction and they're likely in cahoots to get her elected.
Christian: a person who accepts Jesus as savior who know all humans are sinners and tries to be better every day. Hillary and other democrats could be better people if they practiced this. I don't understand how liberals can be so sex obsessed. It's all you all think about. You accuse good people of all the things you're guilty of.
Anon 10:16: LOL! Assholes like YOU should be practicing what Jesus preached. Conservative Christians (an Oxymoron) neither imitates Jesus, or follow the Word. Maybe, YOU should be the example of what Jesus preached. Right now, all that I see from people like you, are haughty words, and self righteousness. And, btw, I do believe in an Almighty God. Yours; apparently, is not the God of Abraham.
Jesus, you need a fucking bigger paintbrush with that horseshit post of yours. It's Christians who are obsessed with sex and trying to control everyones lives. Put down that book of fiction you've wrapped yourself around and live!
I guess I don't understand the devotion some are heaping upon their political choice that they would reserve for their god. They will surely be disappointed when that person fails to live up to the pedestal they've been elevated on.
Look I don't mind a bit of trolling, but I do ask that you put a little effort into it.
Comparing us to Palin worshipers, suggesting that I consider Hillary my "queen," or threatening to vote for Trump if I don't stop pointing out the truth, is essentially grade school level trolling.
This my friends is IM, we have been repelling attacks from outsiders for almost twelve years now.
At least have the respect to put bring your A game.
Well, I don't think taking a half dozen Wiccans hopping around means Sanders supporters are a "Cult of Bernie" is exactly your A game. It's too bad you've gotten so anti-Bernie you're willing to suspend your usually well-honed disbelief when it comes to anti-Bernie or anti-Bernie- supporter propoganda.
10:47 - Why not? It is national news because the LA Times did a full story on it. Lots of people around the world are discussing it. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-sanders-prayer-circle-20160514-snap-story.html
First, I love your blog. Second, I will love it even more when this wave of Bernie-botulism passes. I've heard it could take another few months, so hang in there!
Third, trolls don't have an A Game. That's why they are trolls. You know we LOYAL readers have your back.
Why Sanders? New Atlanta Journal Constitution poll has Sanders +5 to Trump and Trump +4 to Clinton in Georgia.
Sanders beating Trump in Georgia! If Sanders', Clinton's and the DNC's internal polling shows numbers like this across the South, there's no question Sanders will be the nominee.
Since Sanders has lost, it's just like playing a fantasy game to pay attention to hypothetical polls of candidates not in the general election. Meaningless.
If you believe Sanders has already lost and these polls are fantasy sports, it's because you don't understand the Democratic Party delegate rules.
Neither candidate will enter the convention with the majority to win on pledged delegates alone - 2,383. Since either needs superdelegate votes to get them to 2,383, that's by Democratic Party rules definition a contested or brokered convention. It will all be decided behind closed doors.
That's why Sanders has no incentive to concede before the convention. If polls continue to show he'd do better against Trump than Clinton, he can make the case to the superdelegates that he's the candidate who can beat Trump. If polls show he can beat Trump even in the South, it'll be no question the superdelegates will move over to Sanders. They want to beat Trump more than they want Clinton to be president.
Why do you think the Clinton surrogates have resumed calling for Sanders to concede? Because AJC's poll is probably a reflection of what internal polling is showing.
It's both difficult and foolish to take any polls seriously this far away from the actual election. It's also difficult to believe the results, considering that the Trump campaign desperately wants to run against Sanders (and has not thrown any feces his way, like it has with Hillary). And it's foolish when we know for a fact that Republican voters have voted for Sanders in open primaries, for the same reason. As one old politician said many years ago "Polls (poles) are for dogs". He was right!
11:37, I'll leave your shallow understanding of the general election polling process and the effects of name recognition on same alone for now. You don't understand how voters' familiarity with a candidate's record affects those numbers. That's okay; you're far from the only abysmally informed Sanders supporter.
Instead, I'll ask you to answer this question: since the current system of Democratic superdels was instituted, how many times have they overridden the plurality of pledged delegates and given the nomination to the candidate who is behind in pledged delegates?
It's because I understand the process that I recognize why these state polls are important. We vote state by state (electoral college) OH, PA, MA, NH - battleground states all with polls that show Sanders beating Trump better than Clinton.
You go into a convention with the polls you have not the polls you wish you had. With neither candidate entering the convention with 2,383, the Supers will decide the nominee. If state polls continue to show Sanders beating Trump by a wider margin than Clinton, the Supers will move to Sanders.
Shorter 12:28 - "I'm going to call you stupid 5 different ways, then expect you to answer a question, the answer to which I don't think you or other readers are smart enough to recognize doesn't mean anything."
If 12:28 is as knowledgeable as I think they are, they know that superdelegates could vote for a candidate other than the one with the most pledged delegates if they believe one is stronger in the current election landscape. It's the reason they were invented. Just because they haven't done it before doesn't preclude them from doing it this time or in the future.
It's May 15. Have we seen any evidence whatsoever that the vast majority of superdelegates think Sanders is the stronger candidate? No? Could it be because these seasoned political hands understand a lot better than Sanders neophytes that the crap thrown at him in a national election -- all the stuff Clinton has refrained from hitting him with -- will make him sink like a stone?
But no, you're right. They'll understand once Jeff Weaver has a chance to explain, really explain, things to them. You hold on tight to that hope, 1:15. Don't let it go. Let it be the pleasant thought that tucks in your consciousness as you drift off each night.
Then, when it doesn't happen, let my laughing face be your night-night thought.
3:22 is a perfect example of how the more frustrated Clinton supporters get that she hasn't been able to put Sanders away before the convention, the more ridiculous they get.
It's a lonnnng way to July 25th. Lots of time for lots of state polls to show who's the stronger against Trump. Your night-night thought can be my laughing face in Philly. Cheers.
I'm more than content to watch this play out, 5:13. Your pathologically uninformed, increasingly hysterical whining from June 7 through the convention will be deliiiiiicious.
Obama Rips The Soul Out Of Trump’s Campaign While Speaking To Rutgers Grads
In a masterful commencement speech at Rutgers University, President Obama ripped the fear-riddled soul out of Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the Republican Party.
...President Obama’s commencement speech struck at the heart of both Donald Trump’s candidacy and the Republican Party. At its core, the Republican Party is a party that fears the future. At the center of Trump’s campaign is a rejection and fear of change. Trump wants to build a wall and ban all Muslims because the nation’s demographics are changing.
Trump’s campaign slogan Make America Great is a call to take the country back to the past that Republicans believe better than our present and the future.
Obama speech at Rutgers was an argument against the anti-intellectual back to the past movement that is the GOP. Young people don’t support Donald Trump because he is not a leader for the future. Trump is the last wail of the conservative white male whose political and cultural dominance is becoming a relic of the past.
President Obama exposed the Trump campaign as the rageful reaction of a terrified older generation that is trying to reject the changing times.
* @11:06 Be sure to hop up to the new "A-Game" post 'bout Bristol and Dakota. There are links to horseshit gossip sites there also too. And pay particular attention to how many comments get racked up in short order at the new Palin "A-Game" post...
Nevada Democrats defend exclusion of Bernie convention delegates that led to explosion of anger
Nevada’s Democratic State Committee defended excluding 58 Bernie Sanders’ delegates at their convention Saturday night, saying they failed to register properly as Democrats before the final caucus.
The Reuters news agency, RealClearPolitics, a US non-partisan polling data aggregator, are among the organisations that have released ratings indicating that Sanders would have the upperhand in the battle for the White House over Clinton.
Clinton has so far won 1,716 delegates and Sanders has gained 1,433. Counting super-delegates, Clinton has 2,240 and Sanders has 1,473. But super-delegates can still switch allegiance until the July 25 Democratic convention is held.
However, RealClearPolitics showed on Tuesday that Sanders had a 13 percent advantage over Trump, while Clinton had five more points more than Trump.
Did you know that the Democrats are now organizing to primary Bernie in 2018 because of the outrageous behavior of his campaign yesterday in NV? There were 64 folks on the Bernie side FROM OUT OF STATE that tried to pull BS yesterday. One fool even admitted on social media that he quit the Democratic party in April, after the NY results, and then complained when he could not participate yesterday. He screwed up and then wants to whine. Bernie's nightmare campaign in a nutshell.
That stupid shit again? Seriously? Why don't you get back to us when Bernie Sanders has been the recipient of 30 years worth of opposition research and tactics and see how well he fairs against anyone.
This, I think, is the problem with candidates who "energize new voters" without also educating them on how the system works. Although different in each state (which makes no sense to me) the primary process is how the PARTIES pick their candidate. If you're not registered as a party member why should you have a say? I know it's possible in states with open primaries (also makes no sense to me) but it's up to the candidate's local presence to make sure that state and party rules are followed. If you don't follow the rules, don't whine.
Ron Johnson likens the 2016 election to 9/11, and Wisconsin voters liken Ron Johnson to a cabbage. Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson on Saturday compared the 2016 election to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, saying he is “panicked” about this “consequential” year." Politico/Ron Johnson 2016 election like 9/11
It’s already over, and now he’s just causing havoc. I’ve seen firsthand how much damage this kind of candidacy can do.
...Sanders has already changed the political conversation in 2016. Whether wage inequality, middle-class pain, or the distorting role of money in politics, he has made a mark. But if the last wheezes of Sanders’ 2016 efforts echo those of Jerry Brown’s campaign in 1992—i.e., attacking a Clinton personally instead of advocating core issues with a positive agenda—the issues that Sanders cares about will suffer.
What’s the alternative for Sanders? If he is serious about creating lasting political change—and I believe he is—he should start a national movement to drive money out of politics. Sanders could harness his enormous grass-roots fundraising network and the cash it has stockpiled—and can replenish repeatedly—to elect candidates from the White House to the Congress to the state and local levels who are committed to repealing Citizens United.
He could target Senate Republicans in states like New Hampshire, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, inspiring voters there to “feel the Bern” and defeat the incumbents. He could hold those new senators accountable and enlist them in his quest to rid big money from the political system.
He could help Hillary Clinton win big and sweep in a Democratic majority in the Senate. He could become a powerful committee chairman. He could return to the next Senate as one of its most influential players.
And for an Independent socialist from Vermont who started this campaign as an asterisk, that’s a political revolution in itself.
He’s making a populist play for ‘Bernie Bros’ in the Midwest, but the ideological differences are too great.
...But Trump needs far more than a faction of protest votes. The 2016 race starts with more blue states than red states. The general election polls prove that, as of today, there are more #NeverTrump Republicans than #BernieOrBust Democrats. Trump must outright capture Bernie’s revolution to compensate for the damage he’s inflicted on Republican Party unity and swipe the Rust Belt from the Democrats. To pull that off, he’s going to have to sound a lot more revolutionary than he actually is.
Sanders is such a zombie that Clinton had to scramble to put together last-minute rallies on Sunday and Monday in Kentucky. Same thing she had to in Wisconsin when her internals showed Sanders kicking her ass. Zombie. Bwahahaha.
Racial resentment and economic anxiety are not separate forces. For many Trump supporters, they are inextricably linked.
...This moment in American history was inevitable, and it was never going to be a tranquil transition. In 2004, the influential political scientist Samuel Huntington published Who Are We?, his manifesto on the tumultuous future of the American identity. The growth of black and Hispanic minorities, he predicted, would provoke a backlash among whites:
The various forces challenging the core American culture and creed could generate a move by native white Americans to revive the discarded and discredited racial and ethnic concepts of American identity and to create an America that would exclude, expel, or suppress people of other racial, ethnic, and cultural groups. Historical and contemporary experience suggest that this is a highly probable reaction from a once dominant ethnic-racial group that feels threatened by the rise of other groups. It could produce a racially intolerant country with high levels of intergroup conflict.
Trump’s platform is a remarkable manifestation of this 12-year-old prophecy. But Even Huntington could not have foreseen that this demographic moment would coincide with an economic crisis (which would be improbably overseen by America’s first black president). History has drawn these conflicts into a crucible, and the economic anxieties and racial anxieties of today are nearly inextricable.
Some of Trump’s policy statements, on issues like the minimum wage and taxes, are like wisps of smoke—coming into existence, curling into strange shapes, and disappearing within moments. But his bedrock promises all relate to the white American middle’s central fears, including Hispanic immigration and global trade. In his first 100 days, he says, he would act to close the country. He would send additional security to the south and seal the Mexican border. He would begin the design and construction of the Mexican Wall. He would initiate plans to round up more than 10 million undocumented immigrants to send them overseas. He would potentially ban Muslim immigrants from entering the county.
It is not enough to say that Trump is a purely racial phenomenon. Nor is it complete to argue that he is the perfectly predictable result of economic upheaval. Rather, in the last half-century, several events have pushed conservative white American middle-class men to conflate their majoritarian, economic, and cultural decline. Economic anxiety and racial resentment are not entirely separate things, but rather like buttresses in an arch, supporting each other in the creation of something larger—Donald Trump.
Reminds me of the good old days, going braless, smoking a bong of mary jane and who can forget Woodstock? Either that or this is a meeting of shy arsonists without a plan and no rhythm at all.
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They've been a cult for a long time. Same tribe as Trump just different end of the spectrum (and sometimes not even that...)
ReplyDeleteBernie has lost control of his campaign for a long time.
DeleteHe needs to shut it down. The R's have taken over b/c they figure he will be easier to beat than Hillary.
He needs to drop out so this crap will stop.
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/study-spanking-children-leads-to-worse-behavior-health-problems-antisocial-behavior/
These wackos and others like them probably travel many miles to go to as many Sanders rallies as their rent checks allow them to. Somebody should ask them how many rallies have they been to.
ReplyDeleteI read an article yesterday where they interviewed some people who said they have attended several rallies. I just can't imagine doing something like that. Why aren't they busy in life?
DeleteIt's like a cult following. Sometimes I think Bernie is really into these rallies of adoration. Like it's an addiction he doesn't want to end.
I was once a supporter, but Bernie makes me very uneasy; he says the same things & doesn't discuss HOW he plans to accomplish his goals. He, and his staff, when talking to (or talking over) the media, speak bitterly about Hillary or the Democrats. I don't see how he can sway Democratic delegates while berating the Democratic party, and blaming them for every bump in the road.
I blame him, as I blame Trump for the disturbing behavior of the supporters. The vile things these people say about Hillary is tertible. They have latched onto the RW's myths, misinformation & outright lies. The RW has had over 20 years of this bullshit. You know what they say about saying something often enough ...., especially over a long course of time.
Currently, there are 3 candidates running for president. Only one has detailed & credible written plans publicly available - Hillary.
Seems as if these people need something and decided Bernie is it. Reminds me more and more of the McCarthy advocates in '68.
ReplyDeleteI resemble that remark. However, I wasn't even voting age.
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ReplyDeletehttp://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/abstinence-education-tennessee-sex-ed-virginity-pledge
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ReplyDeleteWTF? indeed,Gryph!
You take a tweet from a Bernie supporter and base all his supporters on that?
Well she-i-i-it.
Lemme see if I can find something to rebut with...
Ah-hah!
These Hillary Supporters Want Her to Repeal the Bill of Rights if She's Elected President
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZFXkmofgI
So you see Gryph,anyone these days can go find dumbasses to further their narrative...
Thank you! I used to have a lot of respect for you Gryphen, but am quickly losing it. You and a lot of people on this forum are starting to sound a lot like the SP supporters you used to laugh at.
DeleteHow do we sound like SP supporters? Palin's for Trump. Her supporters are for Trump. Most Democrats are for Hillary (by +3 million more votes so far). Please explain how we sound like SP supporters, 9:52; you make no sense. We support Trump's General Election opponent - Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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DeleteLook in the mirror. Continuing to believe that your candidate is the savior when facts suggest otherwise is very much like SOME of the Sanders supporters.
Missing it again, aren't you, 9:52. Supporting a sane, experienced, talented, intelligent candidate and either donating to her campaign (time or $) and saying, I will vote for her. I like her platform and she appears to have a plan to get those things that I support done, is in now way claiming her to be a "saviour" my guess is Hillary will get some of her agenda done, and some not, depending in large part on the Congress we give her.
DeleteIs this a sanctioned Sanders event?
ReplyDeleteYou are a true idiot. It's people like you that make me want to vote for Trump.
Uh huh. Because that would be a noble protest against idiocy.
DeleteHere's a bandaid for the proboscis you just severed.
Yes, it was listed on the Sanders website. Wiccan for Bernie. Seriously.
DeleteHere's all the info, for you Sanders folks in denial: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-sanders-prayer-circle-20160514-snap-story.html
Deleteyou should be choosing a candidate based on their policies, not because some blogger writes a post that isn't supportive of your candidate.
DeleteNext up these nitwits will be chanting "Plow the furrow, plant the corn" with maybe the addition of "feel the Bern". Cultists all.
ReplyDeleteMainstream Media Gets Schooled On Why Millennial Sanders Supporters Will Vote For Clinton
ReplyDeleteThe media got a taste of reality as they were forced to face the truth that millennial Bernie Sanders supporters care about the issues and will support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.
...The early polling backs up what Menendez said. The Harvard IOP Spring Poll of millennials found that younger voters are flocking to Democrats because they hate Trump. Clinton leads Trump by 36 points with millennial voters. Trump’s net unfavorable rating with younger voters is (-57). Trump’s unfavorable rating with young Republicans is a net (-20).
The mainstream media has developed a perception of younger voters who support Bernie Sanders as angry idealistic kids who aren’t paying attention to the issues, but the issues are the biggest reason why millennials have supported Sen. Sanders. Millennials have been hit hardest by student debt, income inequality, and the decline in upward economic mobility.
These voters are well informed, and they aren’t going to be fooled into voting Republican. Trump is everything that millennial voters are fighting against. Younger voters are also keenly aware that they have an opportunity to influence the future direction of the Democratic Party. A large number of younger voters mobilized around Sen. Sanders, but they are going to support the candidate in November who best speaks to their issues.
That candidate has not, not will ever be, Donald Trump.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/15/mainstream-media-schooled-millennial-sanders-supporters-vote-clinton.html
Shhhhhhhhh, don't disturb the media and the cultists with facts. They get grumpy if you try to waken them.
DeleteContinuing the divide between the democratic party. I have been a reader of your blog for many years now. It is too bad, that since I am leaning towards Sanders ( with the majority of Alaskan Dems). That we wood become villinized be cause we are not swoop ed by your Hilary. Disappointed.
ReplyDeleteThat we wood become villinized be cause we are not swoop ed by your Hilary. Disappointed.
DeleteWhat part of this sentence is English?
Paid troll from another country...
Could you restate in English, please?
DeleteLureta Whitewing
Delete'wood'should be spelled 'would'. Further, villinized is correctly spelled villainized. And swoop ed should read 'swept up'. Back to school dearie.
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DeleteAnd Hillary has TWO ls, not one. Anything else we missed? 10:08
Speaking of not bringing the "A" game: Criticizing the deliverer and the delivery instead of answering her point is called ad hominem - the mean-spirited logical fallacy.
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DeleteThe "deliverer" did not make a point.
Are you talking about the top of their head?
Come on. Of course she made a point that was easy to understand: She's a long-time reader who's disappointed by the anti-Sanders/anti-Sanders supporter posts.
DeletePeople who poined out and mocked her errors instead of answering her message are guilty of ad hominem, general mean-spirited-ness and bully behavior.
Your sweeping generalisations of anyone that doesn't support your queen is why you're losing thousands of readers.
ReplyDeleteDo you honestly think Gryphen has "lost thousands" of readers over supporting Hillary over Bernie? I think you've gone over the edge...,,
DeleteI admire folks who stand by their convictions. I'm glad that Gryph has integrity to maintain his POV, and not just base his posts on pandering to readers.
Delete9:36 AM Your stupid ass comes here multiple times per day, so 'obvi' Gryphen has not 'lost' your readership. Anywhere that there is a Palin trail of stink, you show up.
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Here is Gryph in his own words:
"In fact I have been steadily losing visitors since I started to point out that Sanders' campaign is effectively over. And I'm not talking a hundred or so, I'm talking over a thousand."
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2016/05/trevor-noah-attempts-to-confront-bernie.html
For a blog this small that's significant.
It's "generalizations" in this country, nitwit.
DeleteWHAT "sweeping generalizations"??? Gryphen made fun of THESE people, not ALL Sanders supporters. Feeling insecure?
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I'll save you the trouble of scrolling to the top and repeat what is there:
"So is this the "Cult of Bernie" now?
Getting harder and harder to take these people seriously."
Considering past posts maligning anyone who supports Bernie and Gryph using words like "cult" and "these people",one could safely surmise what he meant.
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I'll save you the trouble of scrolling to the top and repeat what is there:
"So is this the "Cult of Bernie" now?
Getting harder and harder to take these people seriously."
Considering past posts maligning anyone who supports Bernie and Gryph using words like "cult" and "these people",one could safely surmise what he meant.
Aw, 11:34 - why don't you spend time trying to teach BS supporters how caucuses work? That would be a better use of your time and energy. They have no idea, based on what we saw in NV yesterday.
DeleteHe is the only candidate with a heart. Candidates who drop out (or choose not to enter) so their loved ones avoid undue pain from a nasty media have hearts too.
ReplyDeleteHillary and trump. True sociopathic Assholes without identity or conviction and they're likely in cahoots to get her elected.
Did he have a heart when he was a deadbeat dad to his out of wedlock son?
DeleteGet over your Sara-crush.
DeleteShe don't know you.
And if she did, she would not give a rat's ass about you after she empties your wallet.
Christian: a person who accepts Jesus as savior who know all humans are sinners and tries to be better every day. Hillary and other democrats could be better people if they practiced this. I don't understand how liberals can be so sex obsessed. It's all you all think about. You accuse good people of all the things you're guilty of.
ReplyDeleteAnon 10:16: LOL! Assholes like YOU should be practicing what Jesus preached. Conservative Christians (an Oxymoron) neither imitates Jesus, or follow the Word. Maybe, YOU should be the example of what Jesus preached. Right now, all that I see from people like you, are haughty words, and self righteousness. And, btw, I do believe in an Almighty God. Yours; apparently, is not the God of Abraham.
DeleteHi, Alicia.
DeleteDems use the restroom to relieve themselves of normal body excretions.
DeleteCons use the restroom to molest children. That's all CONS think about, fool.
Jesus, you need a fucking bigger paintbrush with that horseshit post of yours. It's Christians who are obsessed with sex and trying to control everyones lives. Put down that book of fiction you've wrapped yourself around and live!
DeleteHey, 10:16 AM, compare GOP sex scandals to Dems' count. We're waiting.
DeleteI guess I don't understand the devotion some are heaping upon their political choice that they would reserve for their god. They will surely be disappointed when that person fails to live up to the pedestal they've been elevated on.
ReplyDeleteYou dangled your participle.
DeleteNo, that has nothing to do with sex, troll.
Look I don't mind a bit of trolling, but I do ask that you put a little effort into it.
ReplyDeleteComparing us to Palin worshipers, suggesting that I consider Hillary my "queen," or threatening to vote for Trump if I don't stop pointing out the truth, is essentially grade school level trolling.
This my friends is IM, we have been repelling attacks from outsiders for almost twelve years now.
At least have the respect to put bring your A game.
'A' Game? Is this your 'A' game?
DeleteWell, I don't think taking a half dozen Wiccans hopping around means Sanders supporters are a "Cult of Bernie" is exactly your A game. It's too bad you've gotten so anti-Bernie you're willing to suspend your usually well-honed disbelief when it comes to anti-Bernie or anti-Bernie- supporter propoganda.
Delete10:47 - Why not? It is national news because the LA Times did a full story on it. Lots of people around the world are discussing it. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-sanders-prayer-circle-20160514-snap-story.html
DeleteMr. Gryphen, sir.
DeleteFirst, I love your blog.
Second, I will love it even more when this wave of Bernie-botulism passes. I've heard it could take another few months, so hang in there!
Third, trolls don't have an A Game. That's why they are trolls. You know we LOYAL readers have your back.
xox!
Anonymous10:47 AM,
DeleteFeeling a little sensitive? sniff
Why Sanders? New Atlanta Journal Constitution poll has Sanders +5 to Trump and Trump +4 to Clinton in Georgia.
ReplyDeleteSanders beating Trump in Georgia! If Sanders', Clinton's and the DNC's internal polling shows numbers like this across the South, there's no question Sanders will be the nominee.
Since Sanders has lost, it's just like playing a fantasy game to pay attention to hypothetical polls of candidates not in the general election. Meaningless.
DeleteBe the Bern, 10:40! LOL
DeleteIf you believe Sanders has already lost and these polls are fantasy sports, it's because you don't understand the Democratic Party delegate rules.
DeleteNeither candidate will enter the convention with the majority to win on pledged delegates alone - 2,383. Since either needs superdelegate votes to get them to 2,383, that's by Democratic Party rules definition a contested or brokered convention. It will all be decided behind closed doors.
That's why Sanders has no incentive to concede before the convention. If polls continue to show he'd do better against Trump than Clinton, he can make the case to the superdelegates that he's the candidate who can beat Trump. If polls show he can beat Trump even in the South, it'll be no question the superdelegates will move over to Sanders. They want to beat Trump more than they want Clinton to be president.
Why do you think the Clinton surrogates have resumed calling for Sanders to concede? Because AJC's poll is probably a reflection of what internal polling is showing.
So precious. Knows less than zero about how nominees are selected or the electoral college works.
DeleteIt's both difficult and foolish to take any polls seriously this far away from the actual election. It's also difficult to believe the results, considering that the Trump campaign desperately wants to run against Sanders (and has not thrown any feces his way, like it has with Hillary). And it's foolish when we know for a fact that Republican voters have voted for Sanders in open primaries, for the same reason. As one old politician said many years ago "Polls (poles) are for dogs". He was right!
Delete11:37, I'll leave your shallow understanding of the general election polling process and the effects of name recognition on same alone for now. You don't understand how voters' familiarity with a candidate's record affects those numbers. That's okay; you're far from the only abysmally informed Sanders supporter.
DeleteInstead, I'll ask you to answer this question: since the current system of Democratic superdels was instituted, how many times have they overridden the plurality of pledged delegates and given the nomination to the candidate who is behind in pledged delegates?
It's because I understand the process that I recognize why these state polls are important. We vote state by state (electoral college) OH, PA, MA, NH - battleground states all with polls that show Sanders beating Trump better than Clinton.
DeleteYou go into a convention with the polls you have not the polls you wish you had. With neither candidate entering the convention with 2,383, the Supers will decide the nominee. If state polls continue to show Sanders beating Trump by a wider margin than Clinton, the Supers will move to Sanders.
Shorter 12:28 - "I'm going to call you stupid 5 different ways, then expect you to answer a question, the answer to which I don't think you or other readers are smart enough to recognize doesn't mean anything."
DeleteIf 12:28 is as knowledgeable as I think they are, they know that superdelegates could vote for a candidate other than the one with the most pledged delegates if they believe one is stronger in the current election landscape. It's the reason they were invented. Just because they haven't done it before doesn't preclude them from doing it this time or in the future.
It's May 15. Have we seen any evidence whatsoever that the vast majority of superdelegates think Sanders is the stronger candidate? No? Could it be because these seasoned political hands understand a lot better than Sanders neophytes that the crap thrown at him in a national election -- all the stuff Clinton has refrained from hitting him with -- will make him sink like a stone?
DeleteBut no, you're right. They'll understand once Jeff Weaver has a chance to explain, really explain, things to them. You hold on tight to that hope, 1:15. Don't let it go. Let it be the pleasant thought that tucks in your consciousness as you drift off each night.
Then, when it doesn't happen, let my laughing face be your night-night thought.
Dumbass.
3:22 is a perfect example of how the more frustrated Clinton supporters get that she hasn't been able to put Sanders away before the convention, the more ridiculous they get.
DeleteIt's a lonnnng way to July 25th. Lots of time for lots of state polls to show who's the stronger against Trump. Your night-night thought can be my laughing face in Philly. Cheers.
I'm more than content to watch this play out, 5:13. Your pathologically uninformed, increasingly hysterical whining from June 7 through the convention will be deliiiiiicious.
DeleteObama Rips The Soul Out Of Trump’s Campaign While Speaking To Rutgers Grads
ReplyDeleteIn a masterful commencement speech at Rutgers University, President Obama ripped the fear-riddled soul out of Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the Republican Party.
...President Obama’s commencement speech struck at the heart of both Donald Trump’s candidacy and the Republican Party. At its core, the Republican Party is a party that fears the future. At the center of Trump’s campaign is a rejection and fear of change. Trump wants to build a wall and ban all Muslims because the nation’s demographics are changing.
Trump’s campaign slogan Make America Great is a call to take the country back to the past that Republicans believe better than our present and the future.
Obama speech at Rutgers was an argument against the anti-intellectual back to the past movement that is the GOP. Young people don’t support Donald Trump because he is not a leader for the future. Trump is the last wail of the conservative white male whose political and cultural dominance is becoming a relic of the past.
President Obama exposed the Trump campaign as the rageful reaction of a terrified older generation that is trying to reject the changing times.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/15/obama-rips-soul-trumps-campaign-speaking-rutgers-grads.html
awesome! But remember, wounded animal is very dangerous.
DeleteRight, because I disagree with you I'm a troll. Laughable, but it explains your Hitler comparison, which is your A game?
ReplyDeleteAnd yet, you're compelled to read and comment here. That sounds like an A Game +1 for Gryph to me.
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Delete@11:06
Be sure to hop up to the new "A-Game" post 'bout Bristol and Dakota.
There are links to horseshit gossip sites there also too.
And pay particular attention to how many comments get racked up in short order at the new Palin "A-Game" post...
Anyone who uses Hitler comparisons is not using an A game, just fear tactics. No surprise you agree with that kind of F game.
DeleteYou guys cannot stop complaining and commenting. It's hilarious!
DeleteNevada Democrats defend exclusion of Bernie convention delegates that led to explosion of anger
ReplyDeleteNevada’s Democratic State Committee defended excluding 58 Bernie Sanders’ delegates at their convention Saturday night, saying they failed to register properly as Democrats before the final caucus.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/nevada-democrats-defend-exclusion-of-bernie-convention-delegates-that-led-to-explosion-of-anger/
Polls: Sanders has more potential to beat Trump
The Reuters news agency, RealClearPolitics, a US non-partisan polling data aggregator, are among the organisations that have released ratings indicating that Sanders would have the upperhand in the battle for the White House over Clinton.
Clinton has so far won 1,716 delegates and Sanders has gained 1,433. Counting super-delegates, Clinton has 2,240 and Sanders has 1,473. But super-delegates can still switch allegiance until the July 25 Democratic convention is held.
However, RealClearPolitics showed on Tuesday that Sanders had a 13 percent advantage over Trump, while Clinton had five more points more than Trump.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/polls-sanders-has-more-potential-to-beat-trump/
Did you know that the Democrats are now organizing to primary Bernie in 2018 because of the outrageous behavior of his campaign yesterday in NV? There were 64 folks on the Bernie side FROM OUT OF STATE that tried to pull BS yesterday. One fool even admitted on social media that he quit the Democratic party in April, after the NY results, and then complained when he could not participate yesterday. He screwed up and then wants to whine. Bernie's nightmare campaign in a nutshell.
DeleteThat stupid shit again? Seriously? Why don't you get back to us when Bernie Sanders has been the recipient of 30 years worth of opposition research and tactics and see how well he fairs against anyone.
DeleteThis, I think, is the problem with candidates who "energize new voters" without also educating them on how the system works. Although different in each state (which makes no sense to me) the primary process is how the PARTIES pick their candidate. If you're not registered as a party member why should you have a say? I know it's possible in states with open primaries (also makes no sense to me) but it's up to the candidate's local presence to make sure that state and party rules are followed. If you don't follow the rules, don't whine.
DeleteNone of the BS clowns in NV even understood what a caucus is.
DeleteLOL O/T
ReplyDeleteRon Johnson likens the 2016 election to 9/11, and Wisconsin voters liken Ron Johnson to a cabbage.
Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson on Saturday compared the 2016 election to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, saying he is “panicked” about this “consequential” year."
Politico/Ron Johnson 2016 election like 9/11
I thought that Bernie Sanders was an atheist.
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
Bernie Sanders disappoints some atheists with his ‘very strong religious’ feelings
Deletehttp://religionnews.com/2016/02/04/bernie-sanders-disappoints-atheists-strong-religious-feelings/
Nate Silver Gives Hillary Clinton A 75% Chance Of Being Elected President
ReplyDeletehttp://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/15/nate-silver-hillary-clinton-75-chance-elected-president.html
Does Donald Trump Really Have a 30% Chance of Winning?
Deletehttp://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/trump-30-chance-winning
Bernie Sanders, the Zombie Candidate
ReplyDeleteIt’s already over, and now he’s just causing havoc. I’ve seen firsthand how much damage this kind of candidacy can do.
...Sanders has already changed the political conversation in 2016. Whether wage inequality, middle-class pain, or the distorting role of money in politics, he has made a mark. But if the last wheezes of Sanders’ 2016 efforts echo those of Jerry Brown’s campaign in 1992—i.e., attacking a Clinton personally instead of advocating core issues with a positive agenda—the issues that Sanders cares about will suffer.
What’s the alternative for Sanders? If he is serious about creating lasting political change—and I believe he is—he should start a national movement to drive money out of politics. Sanders could harness his enormous grass-roots fundraising network and the cash it has stockpiled—and can replenish repeatedly—to elect candidates from the White House to the Congress to the state and local levels who are committed to repealing Citizens United.
He could target Senate Republicans in states like New Hampshire, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, inspiring voters there to “feel the Bern” and defeat the incumbents. He could hold those new senators accountable and enlist them in his quest to rid big money from the political system.
He could help Hillary Clinton win big and sweep in a Democratic majority in the Senate. He could become a powerful committee chairman. He could return to the next Senate as one of its most influential players.
And for an Independent socialist from Vermont who started this campaign as an asterisk, that’s a political revolution in itself.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/2016-primary-campaign-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-2004-lessons-kerry-dean-edwards-gephardt-213884
Why Trump Won’t Get Sanders’ Supporters
He’s making a populist play for ‘Bernie Bros’ in the Midwest, but the ideological differences are too great.
...But Trump needs far more than a faction of protest votes. The 2016 race starts with more blue states than red states. The general election polls prove that, as of today, there are more #NeverTrump Republicans than #BernieOrBust Democrats. Trump must outright capture Bernie’s revolution to compensate for the damage he’s inflicted on Republican Party unity and swipe the Rust Belt from the Democrats. To pull that off, he’s going to have to sound a lot more revolutionary than he actually is.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/2016-donald-trump-bernie-sanders-supporters-bernie-bros-213881
Sanders is such a zombie that Clinton had to scramble to put together last-minute rallies on Sunday and Monday in Kentucky. Same thing she had to in Wisconsin when her internals showed Sanders kicking her ass. Zombie. Bwahahaha.
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ReplyDeleteDonald Trump and the Twilight of White America
Racial resentment and economic anxiety are not separate forces. For many Trump supporters, they are inextricably linked.
...This moment in American history was inevitable, and it was never going to be a tranquil transition. In 2004, the influential political scientist Samuel Huntington published Who Are We?, his manifesto on the tumultuous future of the American identity. The growth of black and Hispanic minorities, he predicted, would provoke a backlash among whites:
The various forces challenging the core American culture and creed could generate a move by native white Americans to revive the discarded and discredited racial and ethnic concepts of American identity and to create an America that would exclude, expel, or suppress people of other racial, ethnic, and cultural groups. Historical and contemporary experience suggest that this is a highly probable reaction from a once dominant ethnic-racial group that feels threatened by the rise of other groups. It could produce a racially intolerant country with high levels of intergroup conflict.
Trump’s platform is a remarkable manifestation of this 12-year-old prophecy. But Even Huntington could not have foreseen that this demographic moment would coincide with an economic crisis (which would be improbably overseen by America’s first black president). History has drawn these conflicts into a crucible, and the economic anxieties and racial anxieties of today are nearly inextricable.
Some of Trump’s policy statements, on issues like the minimum wage and taxes, are like wisps of smoke—coming into existence, curling into strange shapes, and disappearing within moments. But his bedrock promises all relate to the white American middle’s central fears, including Hispanic immigration and global trade. In his first 100 days, he says, he would act to close the country. He would send additional security to the south and seal the Mexican border. He would begin the design and construction of the Mexican Wall. He would initiate plans to round up more than 10 million undocumented immigrants to send them overseas. He would potentially ban Muslim immigrants from entering the county.
It is not enough to say that Trump is a purely racial phenomenon. Nor is it complete to argue that he is the perfectly predictable result of economic upheaval. Rather, in the last half-century, several events have pushed conservative white American middle-class men to conflate their majoritarian, economic, and cultural decline. Economic anxiety and racial resentment are not entirely separate things, but rather like buttresses in an arch, supporting each other in the creation of something larger—Donald Trump.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/donald-trump-and-the-twilight-of-white-america/482655/
Disclaimer: I've lived here 38 years and, trust me, "Keep Portland Weird" is how it's done.
ReplyDeletefive adults and some kids playing ring-around-the-rosie in the park - how cute. But definitely not news or blogworthy.
ReplyDeleteReminds me of the good old days, going braless, smoking a bong of mary jane and who can forget Woodstock? Either that or this is a meeting of shy arsonists without a plan and no rhythm at all.
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